#csm theory

[kafukaselect-blog]

Yoshida and Public Safety

In light of the latest chapter, I want to say that it genuinely cannot be overstated how important it is to Yoshida's characterization to understand that he says "I" when he is talking about actions he is personally choosing to take, and "We" when he is talking about Public Safety's orders/actions.

It was Public Safety's call to kidnap Nayuta, and Yoshida then chose to kidnap Denji in order to keep the situation under control and deliver his ultimatum.

Yoshida specifically brings Denji to the protestors as a warning, we now know thanks to the latest chapter that Public Safety does want to neutralize Denji and is perfectly happy with putting him down. Yoshida makes it clear that he thinks Denji should no longer transform into chainsaw man to avoid further escalating the situation.

Public Safety are gearing up to kill/imprison Nayuta independently of Yoshida, the situation isn't that Public Safety kidnapped Nayuta in order to convince Denji to stop being Chainsaw Man, Public Safety is neutralizing Nayuta because she is the control devil, and Yoshida's ultimatum is to try and prevent this from happening.

Yoshida slips up and drops the act here because he is upset at things not going to plan, he refers to Public Safety as if they are completely separate from himself, an organization he has no say in or control over.

Yoshida's distress is made even more appropriate with the reveal that Public Safety is completely fine with Denji being turned into a weapon due to his continued autonomy being inconvenient for them.

And of course:

Since Public Safety want Asa to turn Denji into a weapon, Yoshida telling Asa to stay away from Denji here is a flagrant act of rebellion against Public Safety in order to protect Denji. And, considering that Public Safety has surveillance on Denji, their first move after Asa turns him into a weapon would most likely be to instantly order Special Division 7 to kill her and take the weapon. Him issuing this order is also protecting Asa from Public Safety.

Yoshida is a lot more than just some heartless Public Safety lackey.

#chainsaw man #csm #csm manga #yoshida hirofumi #csm yoshida #hirofumi yoshida #chainsaw man spoilers #csm spoilers #csm 145 #csm analysis #csm theory #yoshida

[anestefi]

Denji wants to see penguins on his date just like the girl in Reze’s song

#csm #csm theory #csm part 2 #chainsaw man #chainsaw man theory #chainsaw man manga #csm denji #chainsaw man denji #Denji #Reze #csm reze #chainsaw man Reze

[mooncrisisdepression]

I've had this theory for a while that Denji is not actually the chainsaw devil hybrid and is perhaps the pregnancy devil hybrid instead, or at the very least there is some connection between pregnancy and chainsaw man, due to the fact that chainsaws were invented to aid in childbirth.

So I'm currently reading the manga and I get to chapter 53 and Angel says this to Aki -

Angel compares being in hell to the inside of a womb and then says the only thing devils remember is the sound of a chainsaw. If babies could talk, I'm sure they would say something similar. Being brought into the word using a chainsaw would be pretty memorable.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the first person to point this out, but when I read this chapter I got excited and wanted to share!

#chainsaw man #tatsuki fujimoto #denji #denji hayakawa #csm denji #csm angel #csm aki #aki hayakawa #csm spoilers #csm #chainsaw man theory #csm theory #chainsaw man manga #csm manga #mooncrisisdepression

[shin-thalia]

Okay so this upcoming arc is going to be insane.

Let's fill out my thoughts here.

First off, The FIRE DEVIL. This is pretty bad news due to the new Chainsaw zombies running around, but also- the fear of fire. Who benefits from that?

Who do we know that relates to fire?

Who introduced the contract???

Barem. AKA, the Flamethrower Devil.

Not only do we have a key player hybrid relating to fire, but the Fire Devil's contract just created 30'000+ Chainzawmbies (Chainsaw Zombies) that are now running wild through Japan, Canada, and I believe Mexico. These people are going to WILDLY boost Denji's power due to the fear of Chainsaws, and more specifically Chainsaw Man, which they embody.

These Chainsaw People have the same saw placement as Denji does, and by extension Fakesaw Man. Could Fakesaw Man have been a progenitor/test for these? I think he was.

Now, that's not all. We have Chainsaw Man growing in strength because of the Chainzawmbies, who are in a war against humanity, therefore benefiting the War Devil.

Let's take a look at the Horsemen's Plan, however. They plan to have a Chainsaw War against humanity in order to boost their respective Devil's power levels up enough to combat and defeat The Death Devil themself.

But, surely you all remember, in Part 1 it was stated that every Devil hears the revving of Chainsaws before it dies and before it's born. If this fear of the chainsaw is instilled into every being, an army of killer drones will certainly grow this power.

What Fami and the others fail to realize, however... people are going to die. Chainsaws Kill. War Kills.

This "plan" is only going to make the Death Devil stronger, possibly infinitely. The more people are scared of Chainsaw Man and War, the more they'll be afraid of Death by association.

Fami and Barem aim to Kill The King, that being the Death Devil, but their plan is only going to make their situation worse.

How many people are going to die in the span of six months?

What the hell can any of them even do against the most primal fear known to humanity?

They're Fucked.

#chainsaw man #chainsaw man spoilers #csm 146 #chainsaw man theory #csm theory #csm thoughts #csm denji #barem #asa mikata #war devil #chainsaw devil #four horsemen of the apocalypse

[kakuzatos]

kobeni’s devil

!! spoilers for chainsaw man !!

so, episode 9 came out and i watched it with vigor. as expected, kobeni slayed this episode and didn’t disappoint me with her moves. damn, she was quick. you really can’t have a pure hatred for kobeni, it will always have love in the mix. 

and while i was thinking about her, i got curious about her devil again. really, what is this big secret... why was she the only one who got out alive after 100 chapters while other characters like aki and power were ultimately killed off? she surely has relevance in the plot and there is a reason why her devil is concealed as a secret. a devil like that would be thought of as a dangerous one because kobeni can’t even say its name. 

naturally, i go to a full-on zoning out session thinking of the many possibilities of kobeni’s devil. 

i. well, first, i thought of the possibility of her being a devil that has a human-like appearance like makima, yoru and fami. that is a good theory, but her having a family and a brother denounces it a bit. i’m not saying that devils don’t have families and aren’t capable of being raised by one (makima was raised by the government, that’s why she’s like the way she is, if that ever counts as a family). i’m not particularly fond with this one, though, since kobeni is pretty much the most human person in the whole cast. i mean, look at her. 

scared shitless. if she was a devil, she would’ve been happy. devils thrive on fear, they don’t live with it. that would be pretty fun, though. 

ii. moving on. she could have a contract with the death devil. it’s probably the most overstated theory and for good reason. first of all, i’ve read this comment in a reddit post about a totally unrelated, regardless interesting, observation on chapter 113.

the comment reads: 

Getting back to my tangent about the Four Horsemen: the Four Horsemen are unique because, unlike normal devils, who only use fear, the Horsemen are each able to use one of the four emotions unique to humans, listed by the Doll Devil in ch 63:

Conquest uses Worship (aka reverence). So long as humans revere her, they hold her in a "higher place", allowing her to control them. Put from her POV, that means that, so long as the human is "lower" than her, she can control them.

Conquest bends the "rules" around devil contracts in two ways. The first way is obvious - she can force "lesser" humans to submit to her contracts. The second way is by being able to claim ownership over other devils. This means that, unlike a normal devil, Conquest can use other devils like as though they were part of her own body. This gave her the ability to use Angel's powers as though they were her own. This also means she could offer the bodies of other devils in her contracts, as we saw with Aki and the Gun Devil.

War uses Guilt. The greater the guilt she feels, the stronger the weapon she creates. The irony here is that War is so selfish and so absent of the understanding of right and wrong that she's unable to feel much guilt over anything she does. She blames Pochita for her current weakness, but really, she's inherently pretty weak compared to the other Horsemen, just because of this anti-synergy with her own power.

War bends the "rules" by forming completely lopsided "contracts". Like Makima, Yoru removes the human's consent from the equation - if she claims ownership, so long as it's something she can touch, she can weaponize it. But the person turned into a weapon gains nothing from it, the only benefactor is Yoru. Completely one-sided "contracts".

Famine uses Adoration/Respect. We'll see what this means exactly later, but I think I kind of touched on it in my other comment. War and Famine are a yin and yang duo - Yoru is "night", while the heart of Justice "shines with light". And while Yoru is completely selfish and devoid of the understanding of good and evil, Famine seems stuck doing things for others (in other words, is "selfless"), all while being very concerned with the understanding of good and evil. Yoru's power is based on guilt, aka, being able to sense the evil in yourself. So hence, I suspect Famine's "Respect"-based powers are based on being able to sense the good in other people.

Famine bends the "rules" by also forming completely lopsided contracts. The difference is, while Yoru only takes... as Yuko pointed out, Justice only gives. My guess is that, if Famine senses that a human is "good", she can form zero-cost contracts.

Death uses Pity. Pity is the feeling you get when you watch other living things suffer. The idea that Death gets stronger from feelings of pity sends shivers down my spine...

This is especially the case if it's true that every Horseman is trying to cancel out the source of their own power. Conquest's dream is to form equal, nonhierarchical, relationships, which flies in the face of a being whose power is based on hierarchy. So if Death wants to be rid of the "source of its power", too, then wouldn't it have to get rid of all suffering?

notice something about death. death is also powered by pity. kobeni is pretty damn pitiful in almost all her screentime, manga or anime, except her fabulous show in episode 9. but she did experience a lot of torment and she is generally seen as pitiful. maybe, just maybe, that pity she gets from other people is what feeds the death devil. and having to survive all what happened in the past arcs, i wouldn’t be surprised if she ever was involved with such a mortifying devil like the death devil. she dodged death in multiple occasions, it’s like death sided with her. another thing, in hell or chapter 63-64, the darkness devil didn’t even try to kill her. maybe it’s scared?

it’s also such a fun concept to think about. this traumatized girl who is about to shit herself has a contract with the death devil. fucking metal. the thought alone deserves its own book. 

iii. kobeni has a contract with the luck devil! a lot of people agree with this one! i don’t know if it’s good luck or bad luck, though. she seems to somehow have both, so i’m not sure. many people do lean into the idea of a “chance devil”, but i’m pretty certain, if that was the case, it would be the “bad luck” or “misfortune” devil. if there was a luck devil, why would anyone fear good luck? it would’ve been extremely weak because, in retrospect, no one would fear good luck. 

so, bad luck. in this article, it stated that kobeni somehow feeds the bad luck devil with her own bad luck and fear, explaining why she doesn’t sacrifice her body parts. 

although this is good, personally i don’t favor it too much. fujimoto is known for his chaotic direction of his manga and always being spontaneous that you can’t predict it, but it’s done so, in a way, that it’s orchestrated. hints are left, foreshadowing is present; it’s chaotic but makes sure to make sense to us too. a good story should make sense while maintaining its unpredictability. so, a death devil is already hinted. a bad luck devil is not. (yet) 

well, this theory will just have to wait for a while. maybe, there will be a time when a bad luck devil will appear or get mentioned. 

iv. in this post, kobeni is theorized to be contracted with a devil connected to survival. for one, if that devil were to be connected to survival, it could either mean: a fear of death or a fear of getting hurt. 

a fear of death relates to the death devil. 

a fear of getting hurt relates to a pain devil of some sorts. a pain devil would be cool because it will be powerful. almost all humans are scared of being hurt and will make a bit more sense in the storyline, considering that her line of work is potentially getting hurt and seeing others getting hurt because of her. pretty neat theory! 

v. same post in iv, there’s a comment where she might be have a contract with the knife devil. although, there is no evidence to back this up, her main weapon of choice is a knife. in a way, it makes sense.  

v. car devil. no questions. in fact, according to u/LeynaSepKim, it was even foreshadowed in chapter 5, in their post.

all are only speculation! feel free to correct me or add some other theories. the only thing we can do to form more theories and solidify existing ones is to wait. we have yet to see her full potential. she is shown to be athletic in the anime and the manga, but not her power in its entirety. 

#kobeni #chainsaw man #theory #csm #csm theory #analysis #kakutxt #she's pretty sus

[sugar-grigri]

Man, wonder how Asa and Yoru are going to get out of this. If she's in the building I'm halfway expecting this to turn into a top-down edition of the Raid.

I think the very worst can happen. As we have seen, no one in the church has all the information (apart from those who unofficially control the church, such as Fake!CSM, Fami or perhaps Barem).

People joined the church to pray to Chainsaw Man, whom most of them see as a completely idealized hero, so obviously the church wasn't going to publicly claim responsibility for the attack it was about to carry out, just as it didn't want to be transparent with its followers.

What the public hunters did was simply to shed light on something that should have remained unofficial.

Asa Mitaka is considered naive by Barem, who must surely look down on her because the protagonist has no idea what is going on in the church she has set out to represent.

Chapter 143 deals with the manipulation of information and fake news, and ends with an order to gather followers. Obviously, the church will invent false arguments to justify its followers or its representatives, such as Asa, to attack the police and public officials.

What's more, most of the church is made up of very young people, whether high school or university students. How can the police or the military hurt what is most precious to the population? It's a battle for the approval of public opinion.

On top of that, both sides aim to bring CSM to their cause, either by preventing him from acting or by urging him to act. Which side will have the "bad guy" image is decisive for this reason too.

Either Asa will have the hindsight to question these orders (not so sure since she's gloating at the idea of becoming popular), or she'll fall head over heels for them and kill innocent people.

In short, it's more likely that Asa is killing (or intending to kill) innocent people than church members at the moment.

In my eyes, either Haruka or CSM will put an end to this charade !

Why Chainsaw Man? Because Denji has been manipulated by both sides in the final chapters, and has seen the flaws and contradictions in both camps, to which he neither submits nor belongs: being completely neutral.

Why Haruka? Because Haruka is a character who is despised for his very good intentions and his obsession with CSM, but the fact remains that he shows intelligence and seems to be very observant.

He and Asa have clear intentions of helping CSM, so if the latter realizes that this is not the case, he will surely act to at least re-establish the truth for Asa.

#csm #chainsaw man #csm part 2 #csm 143 #csm theory #my thoughts #haruka #denji #asa #asa mitaka #barem #fami #fake!csm

[ricosaws]

random csm theories ( spoilers through part 2 )

- pochita is a contractee/friend of the death devil or ate a piece of the death devil to gain its power. this explains how pochita is able to permanently "kill" devils and the concepts they embody, why pochita can seemingly never be killed, chainsaw man's overwhelming strength, and the fact that nearly everyone around denji is doomed to die. pochita could also be the death devil itself but this is unlikely, since fami refers to the horsemen as "us sisters"...although maybe the chainsaw devil is actually the death devil's latest reincarnation?

- asa and yoru will fuse into one entity. over time yoru has been growing more and more sympathetic to asa and has started to show signs of feeling the same emotions and having the same thoughts that asa does. i wouldn't be surprised if the core struggle yoru has to deal with is protecting asa at the threat of losing her own individuality

- fami is not out to protect chainsaw man, but instead wants to eat chainsaw man's heart - either to gain the power to protect humanity, or that chainsaw man's heart is the only thing that can sate her endless hunger

- asa and denji are switching roles in the story - with asa now an idolized hero of tokyo and denji as the scorned nobody student that everyone picks on. i do think that this current arc will have its climax with asa saving denji somehow and telling him he deserves to do what makes him happy.

- kobeni's brother might be the one who fed denji blood before going to fight falling devil again. we know the person is most likely a male student but their shoes are similar to kobeni's. brobeni is also the only devil hunter club member that hasnt made another appearance since the aquarium arc.

#chainsaw man #denji #csm #asa mitaka #kobeni #famine csm #falling devil #csm theory #death devil #denji hayakawa #asaden #war devil #csm yoru #pochita

[inlovewithkobenihigashiyama]

Chapter 133 of CSM has a lot going on and I love that but here’s a longpost about Yoshida Hirofumi because he’s a really interesting and important character in part 2 so far, but we know very little about him! 

Chapter 133 makes Yoshida’s affiliation clearer, it seems that he is working with Public Safety. And based on his coworker’s response to his distress, it seems he isn’t being taken seriously.

I dunno, that guy doesn’t seem like he’s (Guy in the suit walking the dogs) trying to kill Nayuta. He seems pretty chill, wheras Yoshida is freaking out. I think Yoshida was lying to Denji about the threat to kill Nayuta. Which would make sense! It would be stupid to kill Nayuta, public saftey probably knows this as they know firsthand how powerful both Makima/The Control Devil and Denji/Chainsaw man are.

I think that Yoshida is genuinely trying to protect Denji in his own way, but I don’t think that public safety knows/cares about what he’s trying to do. He’s basically just making himself more important and inserting himself into Denji’s life because he wants to be friends with Denji and does not know how to make friends.

This is pretty telling, especially given Yoshida’s attitude towards other characters. He’s polite even if a bit blunt, but never friendly. Nor does he make any effort to be, except with maybe Kishibe. And Denji, obviously. He shows up, does his job, and leaves. 

Yoshida doesn’t have an official backstory, but based on what we know about him there’s a few things that stick out. 

He’s a prodigy devil hunter, was well-known enough for Makima to hire him, and he held his own in a fight against Quanxi.

He’s around the same age as Denji (Being able to transfer into Denji’s High School, mentioning having to study for finals)

He cares greatly about Denji, even if it’s just because of his job.

None of the other characters know much about him either (except maybe Kishibe, he seems to be a mentor figure)

I think his situation is probably similar to Aki’s, in that he lost his family and felt Devil Hunting was the only thing he could do. While some people choose to become devil hunters, it isn’t a great job and most people would choose something else if they could. There has been no mention of Yoshida’s family. He has enough money to treat Denji at the cafe, but (reasonably) complains when Fami orders the whole menu. People at school only seem to know him as “that guy who’s a devil hunter”.

He probably started devil hunting at an early age based on how skilled he is, and while he goes to school he doesn’t seem to have any friends. If he was constantly training and fighting in between going to school, he probably never made friends. And from his job, he probably saw a lot of people die in front of him and had to kill a lot. Similar to Denji, but Yoshida’s family is a mystery and he seemingly was taken in by Kishibe or another Public Safety member and was able to go to school.

I think he’s similar to Makima in that he wants to have connections and relationships with people but goes about it in a horrible way. I also think he’s an interesting parallel to Denji, who is always up-front about what he wants. Yoshida has never given any obvious indication to his motives outside of “protect Denji” (And even that’s unclear what that means to him!). He hides all of his emotions under an unchanging smile that I was genuinely surprised when he got visibly angry this chapter.

Killing a man in an alleyway:  :)

Being trapped in an infinite aquarium:  :)

Talking to one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse:  :)

Denji being stubborn asking a group of protesters to kill Yoshida:  >:(

The panel after Denji yells that he wants the protestors to kill Yoshida. I think that’s the first time Yoshida looks genuinely hurt. Bro looks like he got stabbed and hes dying. Even though Yoshida knows he is in no danger from the protestors, they don’t know Denji is chainsaw man and they probably didn’t hear him either. He just gets irritated when Denji says he wants to be Chainsaw man and have Nayuta alive or when he thinks Denji is being dumb. 

What really stuck out to me was his reaction. He’s irritated before, but after that he really gets visibly upset. Sure Denji has insulted him and threatened him before, but he never made any move to actually do anything. But Yoshida knows that Denji probably thought that he could kill Yoshida by yelling at the protestors, Denji expressed that he genuinely wanted Yoshida gone, and there is nothing Yoshida can do to make him stay. 

Which is pretty understandable, Yoshida has kidnapped and stalked Denji, and even if he has good intentions that’s just creepy and he shouldn’t do that! 

I think that by trying to prevent Denji from ever transforming into chainsaw man, he is, in his own way, trying to prevent the prophecy from being fulfilled. Fami wants to prevent it by killing chainsaw man, because she thinks that the prophecy can’t be fulfilled if there is no chainsaw man. Which is probably what Yoshida is thinking, but he doesn’t want to kill Denji and he doesn’t want an age of devils to arrive, and Yoshida doesn’t want to choose between the two.

So he’s trying to prevent chainsaw man from existing by trying to convince Denji to have a normal life, and Denji doesn’t want to choose between the two.

But if Denji chooses both options, to be chainsaw man and have Nayuta in a normal life, Yoshida thinks he will have to choose to kill chainsaw man or live in an age of devils, which he doesn’t want either of.

I think it’s just interesting about all the choices!!! I also think Yoshida and Denji have a lot of similarities. I’m also biased towards Yoshida since I think he’s super neat so I also could just be making up excuses for him to not turn out to be evil bc I don’t want him to be evil :(

#csm #csm spoilers #csm manga #cube reads: csm #yoshida hirofumi #denji hayakawa #csm theory #csm part 2 #chainsaw man #yoshiden #kinda ig #theyre silly

[yueyuw]

Contradicting to popular belief, Dennis is a very selfless person. Although when you first start the series, where he is depicted to be a very shallow person, only joining because he likes Makima and wants girls to fall for him (or some sort it's been a while since I've read the front).

As you read on you will realise the compassion he has. Despite being not even close to human since the start, and having to deal with the burden of killing his father, the death of his mother and living in the slumps, only longing for a normal life, he is one of the kindest people in the story (perhaps because he doesn't have a human heart anyways).

For example, he has kept Makima's dogs even though they are part of a past I would believe he doesn't want to remember. He kept them for Nayuta's sake AND for the dogs because he considers them a part of Nayuta's past + if he left the dogs behind they might go to someone abusive. From this example, we can see that he is kind because even though he could abandon the dogs (and meowy but he wouldn't do that because it serves as a memory of power whom he misses very much) which would help with his financial position, he didn't.

Example two, Nayuta. In the aquarium date chapter, Asa asks why Denji is so obsessed with selling things and making money. He answers that he wants to save money so that Nayuta can go to college because he believes that she has the potential and he wants her to have a normal life which he did not have. This shows he truly does care about Nayuta and that he brought her up well. The way that Nayuta acts is a product of it. Denji has created a space for her where she can express her emotions freely and grow up as a free being (maybe I'll do an analysis of her eventually and also he learnt all this from aki definitely I'm gonna cry)

In the recent chapter (chapter 133), it is shown that Denji chose to not transform into Chainsawman even though it is something he loves to do, something that brought him happiness because he is worried about Nayuta's life he wouldn't know what to do if he lost another person. He was willing to do degrading things (ie: yoshida scene btw i hate him now he was pretty at the start but now he's so annoying) for her and I really really admire that from him.

As said by Dennis himself, he does not fight for anyone, he has died again and again but he's never stopped and he was named my the people themselves in time of need. I think he is heartbroken they would take out a fake Chainsawman who stands for things he doesn't stand for, (because, again, denji doesn't have a human heart and I don't believe he has morals...) and I think he deserves better :)

Authours note: DENNISSS I LOVE YOUUUUU

#chainsaw man #nayuta #csm #chainsaw man spoilers #csm manga #chainsaw man 133 #chainsaw man thoughts #dennis #denji chainsaw man #denji #denji hayakawa #csm theory #chainsaw man theory #chainsaw man denji #asa mitaka #theory

[thebuginthecornerofyourroom]

Fuck it

That's not a fake, that's Chainsaw Man

Adult Denji flunged back in time by the time devil or some shit like that, I don't know

Beautiful scene in a couple months of him crying bawling a mess when he sees Asa bc they ended up in a relationship canon, Apollo come get me

#Chainsaw man 128 #Chainsaw man #denji #denji hayakawa #asa mitaka #tatsuki fujimoto #csm spoilers #csm manga #csm theory

[wandererkisser]

Is Pochita the love/connection devil?

Chainsaws were invented to help with birth so chainsaws sever a connection that keeps the baby alive at all cost and connects it to the mother's conscious attempts to protect it. Humans' first interaction with love is via a chainsaw.

It would explain why the chainsaw devil is so strong. Every human fears and needs connection. Especially ~in today's world~ a community is not easy to acquire. Meanwhile everyone is strengthening certain connections and severing others decisively and violently at the current time in the manga ("for" vs "against" chainsaw man, literal cults).

Also another reason for Makima to want Pochita. Literally the devil of the concept she desires.

Why is chainsaw devil killing others in hell? The ones disrupting the connections in hell get sent to earth to cause problems so humans show care/love to each other and work together. Not sure about this one.

#chainsaw man #pochita #csm #csm theory

[kafukaselect-blog]

Is Nail Fiend actually the Curse Devil?

It was awesome to see the Nail Fiend (and Katana Man) return this chapter

Back when the Nail Fiend was first introduced, a common theory has been that rather than being possessed by the Nail Devil, they are actually the fiend-ified Curse Devil. Opinions on this theory seem to be pretty divided, and since the Nail Fiend is coming back into the spotlight with this latest chapter, I felt it would be worthwhile to make a post re-evaluating this theory in its entirety.

The main reason for this theory is that the Curse Devils choice of weapon is a nail, just like the fiend's, with both Aki and Santa Claus needing to pierce their victims with a nail to trigger the Curse Devil's attack

In addition, the Curse Devils attack takes the form of a crucifixion, and when the "Nail Fiend" debuts, they hang up the church schoolkids with nails in a crucifix position.

There's also the fact that a Nail Devil doesn't really seem like they'd be that powerful at all under CSM's fear based system, and considering that fiends have a further reduction in power compared to devils, the speed and competence that the "Nail fiend" shows could be considered unreasonably powerful for just representing the concept of nails.

You could argue that the Nail Devil also represents the hammer and nail curse ritual (Ushi no toki mari) to give a reason for its power, but the Curse devil already clearly takes inspiration from that. It would be incredibly redundant to make the Nail Devil just represent the exact same thing as the Curse Devil, and it would make more sense to just re-use that devil, it's not like Fujimoto has had a problem with reintroducing devils from Part 1.

The main counterargument for this theory that I have seen is the fact that the fiend's introduction chapter was named "Guns, Nails, Katana", with people arguing that because the chapter title uses the word "Nail" that the fiend must then must be the Nail Fiend.

I don't think this argument really holds any weight, the chapter had "Nails" in the title because the fiend used a bunch of nails and the chapter title was describing what happened in the chapter. It's like how the "Guns" in the title refers to how the chainsaw church followers used a bunch of guns, not that they were contracted with the Gun Devil. If anything the title "Guns, Curse, Katana" would be really strange and out of place, because it would be revealing something that wasn't actually revealed in the chapter itself.

At the end of the day this theory is still unconfirmed though, and we'll really just have to wait until we see the Nail Fiend show off a bit more of their powers before we can really call it one way or the other. Though I am definitely hoping to see some curse action in the upcoming chapters.

Also: if they really are the Curse Fiend, then them being paired up with Katana Man is pretty funny, considering they straight up murdered him in Part 1. This fact doesn't really affect the likeliness of the theory, but I think it's pretty neat.

#csm #chainsaw man #csm manga #csm spoilers #chainsaw man part 2 #chainsaw man spoilers #csm analysis #csm theory #nail fiend #csm 159 #katana man #csm part 2 #curse devil

[anestefi]

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[ceyskywalker]

CSM THOUGHTS - DEATH DEVIL

this might be completely baseless and might be completely wrong but here i go

tbh i feel like death devil dgaf about chainsaw man and events happening rn at all

i except her to be indifferent about pochita hold no grudge or anything just enjoying her time in world.

every four horsemen want something from pochita wants ro achieve something through using him. Makima wanted to control his ability, Yoru wants revenge and him to puke nuclear weapons, fami using his position in society (and weaken him prior to his fight against war if u ask me)

but death devil doesn't need any of that because she already reached her goal.

Every conclusion of life eaten by chainsaw devil. Doesn't that automatically make death stronger? Think about reincarnation as one of the conclusions of life. If that was still a thing people know some people wouldn't afraid of death but people in csmverse only know death and fear it.

unlike war who's completely at disadvantage bc of pochita's actions death definitely benefits from it.

Death and pochita fought in hell yeah but with how fami acts(i think she's still petty but not on makima war level) i can definitely see a horseman not holding a grudge against pochita and just love observing human life rn tbh

she is the ultimate idgaf veteran to me even pochita might have smt against her but according to me delusions she'll just wave him off and continue to do her little things

people always theorizing about her -fami introduction, woman behind that nayuta denji illustration and somehow bus driver yoshida- but her not being a big player as fans thinking her to be is such a Fujimoto thing to do

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[sokuroda]

i have lots of thoughts about this newest chapter but most importantly, If we’re assuming that Asa/Yoru’s sister of sorts is the justice devil, I think it’s fair to assume that maybe this guy, Haruka Iseumi, made a deal with her, and took the form of chainsaw man because that’s what he views as a form of justice. i think it could work maybe too because in yuko’s case her devil form seemed to represent that justice is blind, which is sort of how justice worked in her mind. im not sure obviously but i think it could make sense.

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[systemshock2100]

CHAINSAW MAN CHAPTER 132 SPOILERS///

Imagine if denji like goes against public safety and like goes rouge after being captured to save nayuta that shit would go so hard I think. Also where did kishibe go like did he just dip or something we haven't seen that man in awhile and it got me curious on what bro could be doing

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