#counts of celje

[signoraviolettavalery]

So Celje makes gig #4 and Joker Out never cease to be amazing

They had some really cool visuals this time around, including live tracking shots of the audience they were projecting, and which Maks was filming. An amazing show on all counts - vocals, music, lights, visuals...these guys know how to put on a show

#joker out

[polishdynasty]

QUEEN ANNE OF CILLI (1386 — 21 may 1416)

Anne of Cilli was born probably in the 1386 as a daughter of William, Count of Cilli and Anne of Poland. Her father died when she was around ten years of age and her mother had remarried to Ulrich, Duke of Teck. Because of that, Anne was left under the care of her father's brother, Herman. According to the legend, in 1399 King Jadwiga of Poland on her deathbed told Władysław Jagiełło, her current husband, to marry Anne of Cilli so he could still rule Poland. Anne was a granddaughter of Casimir The Great, the last king from the Piast dynasty, so having a descendant of him as a wife would strengthen Władysław's position on the throne. One year later a delegation composed of Jan of Oblichów, Jan of Ostrowiec and Hinczka of Rogów came to Cilli with a proposition of marriage between King of Poland and Anne. Herman, Count of Cilli immediately agreed and in 16th July 1401 Countess come to Cracow. She was welcomed by Poles with joy, but according to the Jan Długosz her future husband wasn't that happy. The wedding was postponed and Anne sent to a convent to learn polish language. Finally in 29th January 1402, in the Wawel Cathedral, their wedding took place. There were many guests, including Vytautas, the Grand Duke of Lithuania. One year later Anne was crowned a Queen of Poland and was able meet her mother for the first time since the Duchess left Celje.

The marriage of Anne and Władysław was quite cold at the beginning. The king often left the capital, leaving his wife alone. He was also known to be suspicious, introverted person, so it took him a while to trust Anne. It also didn't help that the queen had been accused of marital infidelity several times. The first time was in 1407: Klemens of Moskorzew accused Anne of cheating on her husband with Jakub of Kobylan and Mikołaj Chrząstowski and the proof was supposed to be the sudden collapse of the floor in Queen's chamber. King at first believed in that and locked Jakub. Polish nobles during the convention in Niepołomice defended Anne and the woman was found innocent. But year later she was accused of having an affair with Andrzej of Tęczyn — this case did not reach a public hearing. In 1411 the Queen was accused of having the infidelity with archbishop Kurowski, but some sources says that actually Anne accused the man for a inappropriate attitude to her person. Kurowski died during a trip to the royal court to clear things up. For a first few years of marriage Anne of Cilli didn't give a birth to a child. It is known that she had several miscarriages. In the 1408 their first and only child, Princess Jadwiga, was born. Władysław was disappointed that the baby turned out to be a girl, but for a many years she was considered the heiress of the kingdom and a possible future king.

Anne hated the Teutonic Order as much as her husband and unlike her predecessor, urged Władysław to go to war with them. And he did that. In 1410 after the battle of Grunwald, Jagiełło sent two laters to inform about his victory: one of them was sent to Anne. It is the proof that their relationship develop during the years and Władysław started to like her and see as a friend and partner.

The Queen accompanied her husband during the trip to Hungary, where Jagiełło was negotiating with Sigismund of Luxembourg. There she met with her cousin, Barbara, who was the second wife of Sigismund. Thanks to Anne, the polish regalia, which King Louis The Great once brought with him to Buda, returned to Poland. Anne also visited Lithuania and observe the Christanisation of Samogitia. In early 1415 she travelled with her husband and even met Alexander of Moldavia in Sniatyn.

Anne came back to Cracow and Władysław travelled to Lithuania. Probably at the end of 1415, the queen got sick. In 1416 a special envoy was sent to king with a information that Anne was seriously ill. Despite the news, Jagiełło didn't hurry back to Cracow. He approached the capitol in May and few days later, 21th May 1416 the queen died. She was buried in the Wawel's Cathedral, near to altor of Saint Dorothy.

#historyedit #koronakrólówedit #korona królów #the crown of the kings #korona królów jagiellonowie #anne of cilli #anna cylejska

[lysanderyourdarkacademiaguy]

Happy Vamptember! I thought it would be interesting to know where the belief in vampires came from and so today I bring you the story of the Black Queen

A dear friend of mine helped me with this story, which is part of his culture and which should be more important for us, it comes from the Queen Barbara Celjska or in English Barbara of Cilli

Barbara was born in Celje, in the Duchy of Styria, today Slovenia, as the daughter and youngest child of Herman II, Count of Celje, and Countess Anna of Schaunberg she married Sigismund, who was then the Roman Emperor, he spent a lot of time away in battles, which allowed her to stay ahead of the castle by holding court and making important decisions. It is believed that although she was married, she had many men and lovers who, when she got bored of them, she sent to throw them out of her castle. Sigismund, was a cheater, and he can't expect her being loyal to him in this case.

Rumours that she was a vampire stemmed from the following:

“Aeneas Silvio Piccolomini, who detested the Cilli family, characterized Barbara’s brother Count Friedrich as “shameless,” “materialistic,” and “a blood thirsty wildman” as well as an enemy of the church and state. He declared Ulrich, the head of the Cilli family, as a “hardened sinner” and “demon.” As for Barbara herself, Piccolomini claimed that Barbara did not even believe in an after-life. Aeneas also accused Barbara of associating with “heretics” and “abominable Hussites.” He claimed that after the death of Albrecht, Barbara and her daughter Elizabeth used to profane Holy Communion by drinking actual human blood during the liturgy. This would, of course, qualify Barbara for the clinical category of “living vampire” meaning, according to medical doctors even today, some one who drinks human blood”

-In Sear In Search of the Lesbian V ch of the Lesbian Vampire: Barbar e: Barbara von Cilli, Le F on Cilli, Le Fanu's "Carmilla" and the Dragon Order

She was not only a “vampire” She had knowledge of alchemy, politics, and managed her reign with strength and independence, to this day she is an example of what Slavic women should be. To this day, and after her, the story spread to Europe and then to the West, and little by little, from Dracula onwards, vampires grew in fame, as well as extra knowledge to represent according to the writer.

It's just a little bit of knowledge, it's not much, and I'll probably edit this post as the days go by

#vamptember #vampire chronicles #vampires #gothique #history

[aloneinstitute]

🇦🇹 Niederfalkenstein Castle is a medieval castle near Obervellach in Carinthia, Austria. It is part of the larger Falkenstein fortification complex; while the main fortress of Oberfalkenstein today is a ruin, the lower barbican of Niederfalkenstein is largely preserved.

Location

The fortification was erected on a rocky promontory on the southwestern slopes of the Reisseck Group in the Hohe Tauern mountain range, overlooking the Möll valley east of Obervellach. Niederfalkenstein is 843 metres (2,766 ft) above sea level.

The Tauern Railway line, opened in 1909, initially passed under the rock in a 67-metre (220 ft) long tunnel. In the course of the double-tracked expansion carried out from 1971 to 1973, the rail tunnel was replaced by a wide arch bridge, the present-day Falkenstein Bridge passing between Ober- and Niederfalkenstein, with 396 metres (1,299 ft) the longest of the line and one of the longest in Austria.

The ruins of Oberfalkenstein comprise a Bergfried keep with surrounding moats and the foundations of a Romanesque palas. A chapel dedicated to John the Baptist was first mentioned in 1246, significantly enlarged in a Baroque style in 1772 and is still in use.

History

Niederfalkenstein

Niederfalkenstein Castle

The fortification was first mentioned as Valchenstain Castle in an 1164 deed. The name may be derived from Proto-Germanic walhaz (foreigner, stranger; Romance/Celtic-speaker) in terms of a Romance (Italian) settlement, referring to descendants of the former Roman city of Teurnia, who had migrated to the remote valley during the Slavic settlement of the Eastern Alps about 600.

The first documented ministerialis Gumpoldus de Valchenstein was a liensmen of Count Engelbert II of Gorizia (Görz), scion of the Meinhardiner dynasty. The Counts of Gorizia also held the office of a Vogt of the Benedictine Millstatt Abbey, and the Lord of Falkenstein established close ties to the monastery.

The Falkenstein dynasty became extinct about 1300, soon after two castles, 'Upper' and 'Lower' Falkenstein were mentioned, enfeoffed by the Counts of Gorizia to several local nobles. On 24 June 1394 Count Henry VI gave the upper castle in pawn to the Habsburg duke Albert III of Austria. It was finally seized by Albert's nephew Emperor Frederick III in 1460, after he had defeated Count John II of Gorizia in the conflict over the heritage of the extinct Counts of Celje. The lower castle was temporarily held by the Carinthian knight Andreas von Graben, who sold it in 1462.

In 1504 Frederick's son and successor Emperor Maximilian I again pawned the castle to Count Julian of Lodron, by his wife Apollonia brother-in-law of the Salzburg archbishop Matthäus Lang von Wellenburg. It was acquired by Apollonia's second husband Christoph Frankopan after Lodron's death in 1510. The countess donated an altarpiece by Jan van Scorel in the Obervellach parish church, depicting Saint Christopher, herself and her castle. At the same time, large funds had to be raised in order to restore the dilapidated premises. Afterwards, several nobles held the castle, among them the descendants of Gabriel von Salamanca-Ortenburg and the Khevenhüller dynasty, while the premises decayed. When the Austrian mountaineer Joseph Kyselak visited the site in 1825, it largely laid in ruins.

Rebuilt from 1905, the Unterfalkenstein palas burnt down after a burglary in 1969 and had to be restored again. Up to today the castle is a private property, but can be visited in summer. 👉👉👉👉 Du kilt à la Harpe , errance celtique — em Falkenstein Castle (Niederfalkenstein)

[brookstonalmanac]

Events 11.9 (before 1950)

694 – At the Seventeenth Council of Toledo, Egica, a king of the Visigoths of Hispania, accuses Jews of aiding Muslims, sentencing all Jews to slavery. 1277 – The Treaty of Aberconwy, a humiliating settlement forced on Llywelyn ap Gruffudd by King Edward I of England, brings a temporary end to the Welsh Wars. 1313 – Louis the Bavarian defeats his cousin Frederick I of Austria at the Battle of Gammelsdorf. 1330 – At the Battle of Posada, Basarab I of Wallachia defeats the Hungarian army of Charles I Robert. 1456 – Ulrich II, Count of Celje, last ruler of the County of Cilli, is assassinated in Belgrade. 1520 – More than 50 people are sentenced and executed in the Stockholm Bloodbath. 1620 – Pilgrims aboard the Mayflower sight land at Cape Cod, Massachusetts. 1688 – Glorious Revolution: William of Orange captures Exeter. 1720 – The synagogue of Judah HeHasid is burned down by Arab creditors, leading to the expulsion of the Ashkenazim from Jerusalem. 1729 – Spain, France and Great Britain sign the Treaty of Seville. 1780 – American Revolutionary War: In the Battle of Fishdam Ford a force of British and Loyalist troops fail in a surprise attack against the South Carolina Patriot militia under Brigadier General Thomas Sumter. 1791 – The Dublin Society of United Irishmen is founded. 1799 – Napoleon Bonaparte leads the Coup of 18 Brumaire ending the Directory government, and becoming First Consul of the successor Consulate Government. 1851 – Kentucky marshals abduct abolitionist minister Calvin Fairbank from Jeffersonville, Indiana, and take him to Kentucky to stand trial for helping a slave escape. 1862 – American Civil War: Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac, after George B. McClellan is removed. 1867 – The Tokugawa shogunate hands back power to the Emperor of Japan, starting the Meiji Restoration. 1872 – The Great Boston Fire of 1872. 1881 – Mapuche rebels attack the fortified Chilean settlement of Temuco. 1887 – The United States receives rights to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. 1900 – Russia completes its occupation of Manchuria with 100,000 troops. 1906 – Theodore Roosevelt is the first sitting President of the United States to make an official trip outside the country, doing so to inspect progress on the Panama Canal. 1907 – The Cullinan Diamond is presented to King Edward VII on his birthday. 1913 – The Great Lakes Storm of 1913, the most destructive natural disaster ever to hit the lakes, reaches its greatest intensity after beginning two days earlier. The storm destroys 19 ships and kills more than 250 people. 1914 – SMS Emden is sunk by HMAS Sydney in the Battle of Cocos. 1917 – The Balfour Declaration is published in The Times newspaper. 1918 – Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution, and Germany is proclaimed a Republic. 1923 – In Munich, police and government troops crush the Nazi Beer Hall Putsch. 1935 – The Committee for Industrial Organization, the precursor to the Congress of Industrial Organizations, is founded in Atlantic City, New Jersey, by eight trade unions belonging to the American Federation of Labor. 1937 – Second Sino-Japanese War: The Chinese Army withdraws from the Battle of Shanghai. 1938 – Kristallnacht occurs, instigated by the Nazis using the killing of German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by Herschel Grynszpan as justification. 1940 – Warsaw is awarded the Virtuti Militari by the Polish government-in-exile.

#Events

[stari-pisker]

Filet Mignon, Pineapple, Fries and Sauce.

www.stari-pisker.com

#filetmignon #steak #sword #celje #staripisker #slovenia #grofje celjski #counts of celje

[useless-sloveniafacts]

Sj poznaš zgodbo o Veroniki Deseniški, ne? 🙄 No @whitemoonlightroses nas je počastila s temle memom

— submitted by @spiritofaeron

#omgg #amazing #slovenia #friderik in veronika #counts of celje #submission

[barjanska-sembilja]

I'm like one of those people who claim they could've won important ww2 battles but for medieval dynasties. Yes. If I were there the counts of Celje and Gorica wouldn't have gone extinct.

[tybaltsjuliet]

on this day - march 16, 1457 // the execution of hunyadi lászló

hunyadi lászló (sometimes called ladislaus hunyadi in english sources) was a fifteenth-century hungarian nobleman, born sometime in 1431. his father, jános, was a wealthy military leader; his mother erzsébet szilágyi came from a politically powerful family and counted among her in-laws vlad tepes iii.

lászló spent much of his youth with his father, in battle and on campaign. he quickly became influential and powerful himself, taking on such titles as ban (viceroy) of croatia and dalmatia at just twenty-two years old. in fact, lászló and his family were so popular with the people that he became a perceived rival of the monarch, ladislaus v, an inexperienced boy king.

when jános died in 1456, lászló inherited not just his father’s position as the head of the family, but several of his father’s enemies as well. chief among them was ulrich ii, count of celje and ladislaus v’s regent, who held a longstanding grudge against the house of hunyadi. the year before, ulrich had brought certain accusations against lászló at the diet. it’s not clear what the accusations actually were, but they did result in lászló resigning all his titles. (ulrich also attempted to hold lászló responsible for debts that jános may or may not have owed to the state at the time of his death, but this effort, at least, went nowhere.)

in late 1456, though, lászló fought back. ulrich had promised reconciliation and protection for the house of hunyadi - if they gave ulrich the castles and fortresses that ladislaus v entrusted to them. lászló invited both the king and the count to nándorfehérvár fortress, under the pretense of surrendering it. instead, on the morning of november 9, ulrich was killed by lászló’s men.

what followed was dramatically described by the historian robert nisbet bain: “the terrified young king, who had been privy to the plot, thereupon pardoned hunyadi, and at a subsequent interview with his mother at temesvár swore that he would protect the whole family. as a pledge of his sincerity he appointed lászló lord treasurer and captain-general of the kingdom. suspecting no evil, hunyadi accompanied the king to buda, but on arriving there was arrested on a charge of compassing ladislaus’s ruin, condemned to death without the observance of any legal formalities, and beheaded on the 16th of march 1457.”

although lászló’s own life was cut short, the hunyadi family would have victory. following the execution, erzsébet led a rebellion against ladislaus v. and when ladislaus v died unexpectedly in late 1457, in the middle of the civil war, erzsébet’s efforts and influence ensured that her second son, matthias, was declared the new king.

by the nineteenth century, hunyadi lászló was regarded in the culture as a martyr and a symbol of hungarian nationalism, especially following the suppressed revolution of 1848 against the austrian empire.

further interest and sources:

robert nisbet bain on hunyadi lászló (1911)

“hunyadi lászló búcsúja (lászló hunyadi’s farewell)” by benczúr gyula (1866) at the hungarian national gallery

“hunyadi lászló siratása (the mourning of lászló hunyadi)” by madarász viktor (1859) at the hungarian national gallery

an english-subtitled performance of erkel ferenc’s 1844 opera hunyadi lászló

#historyedit #history #hungarian history #on this day #hunyadi lászló #lászló hunyadi

[maticbroz]

The Old Castle of Celje (~1323) was the stronghold of the Counts of Celje, a powerful dynasty that ruled in some parts of Central Europe. Shot was taken from the Friderik Tower. (at Celje) https://www.instagram.com/p/CBYndBmlONY/?igshid=1layb6jjdc0c4

[rvexillology]

Couple of old concepts "impaling" Duchy of Carniola/Krain and Duchy of Styria/Steiermark creating a griffin as result

from /r/vexillology Top comment: Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes/Yugoslavia got parts of the former Austria Hungary after WW1. Slovenes didn't have their own coat of arms at first. Only a flag that looked exactly like Russia's. They ended up using a mix of a CoA of Counts of Celje (three gold stars) and added a silver crescent to represent the Illyrian movement. Another idea was to join the CoAs of Carniola and Styria. Yugoslavia got part of Carniola (Italy the rest), Lower Styria/Untersteiermark and a tiny western bit of Hungary. Here are a couple of concepts if they decided to go with this idea and decided to change their flag.

#impaling #Couple #old #concepts #Duchy #Carniola/Krain #Styria/Steiermark #creating #griffin #result #flags #vexillology

[elija-oc-art]

Obviously! It’s a rough look back to the early years of Cvetka

In the 6th centuty, Slavs began to settled in the Eastern Alps and occupying an area more than twice the size of Slovenia today. For the time being they appear to have been under the subjection of the Avars, while later they joined Samo's tribal union which was short-lived and ended after Samo's death in 658. The oldest medieval tribal polity formed in the Eastern Alps was Carantania, in the 8th century they came under Bavarian and Frankish rule, in the mean time the work of conversation to Christianity was also carried on.

Carantanians was not the only tribal union to form in the Early Middle Ages within the Slavic settled area in the Eastern Alps. Carniola which in 973 the March of Carniola March with its center in Kranj was first mentioned, later in 1040 separated from Carinthia (the name derives Carantania).

Since it's inception in 962 Slovene lands were within the Holy Roman Empire. In 13th century, after the death of Duke Ulrich III from the Sponheim family, his cousin Ottokar II the King of Bohemia obtained Carinthia and Carniola through an inheritance agreement and retained it in 1269 until 1275, while he and Rudolf of Habsburg embroiled in a dispute over his election as King of the Romans then in 1276 and forced to cede the lands to Rudolf and eventually Ottokar II died in the Battle on the Marchfeld in 1278.

Carinthia came into the hands of the Habsburg dynasty in 1279 while in 1286 Rudolf gave Carinthia as a hereditary fief to Meinhard of the Tyrol line of the Counts of Gorizia, as well as Carniola. After the death of Meinhard's son Henry (who was also briefly King of Bohemia from 1307-1319), Carniola and Carinthia were taken over by the Habsburgs in 1335. During Rudolf IV Duke of Austria's region, Carniola was de facto turned into a duchy in 1364 and Carinthia into an archduchy without an imperial charter in.

Counts of Celje, the most influential late medieval noble dynasty on the territory of present-day Slovenia risen as vassals of the Habsburg dukes of Styria. Through fortuitous politics and marriages they acquired much land, including a large portion in the Slovene lands. In 1436 they acquired the status of dukes of the Holy Roman Empire and the independent principality of Celje. With the death of Ulrich II (he was assassinated by the men of his rival Ladislas Hunyadi on 8 November in Belgrade) the male line of the Counts of Celje died out. After protracted wars for the Celje succession, the Habsburgs took over their lands, ruling them until the end of World War I.

A map of Holy Roman Empire in the 15th century shows location of Carniola and Carinthia, written in German. For example Krain is Carniola, located in today’s Slovenia with a small part of northwest Italy, while can be divided into 3 traditional regions of Upper Carniola, Lower Carniola and Inner Carniola; Kärnten is Carinthia, located in today's northern Slovenia and southern Austria and Laibach is Ljubljana. was the capital of the Duchy of Carniola and now it's the capital of Republic of Slovenia.

(xxxxx)

Note: There are several historical names were mentioned in this article, however the personification character with Cvetka as her human name would only represents Carniola back then.

#slovenia oc #aph slovenia #aph balkans #balkantalia #art tag #historical #queued update #//clearly the space is not enough to mention every thing but here she is

[spomincica]

v happy about the fact that people in Celje are usualy pretty slow at counting ballots, so i’m going to have to stay up a bit longer and will have some extra time to finish this essay i need to turn in before 7am tmrw and haven’t started writing yet

#we truly are the california/arizona/insert ur fave slow-counting state of slovenia

[venicepearl]

Veronika of Desenice (died 17 October 1425) was the second wife of Frederick II, Count of Celje.

#Veronika of Desenice #XV century #Illustration #art #arte #people #portrait

[thefootballlife]

Killing the Territory - Maribor and Olimpija’s failings hurt the league as a whole

At Stozice, even the Eternal derby itself pulled in under 3,500 fans - an attendance that compares unfavourably with some of Mura’s European games, hosted at a Fazanerija three times smaller that the national stadium and a number that is around half the number that attended Stozice in the previous derby vs Maribor with fans in September 2019.

Even when you take into account the limited increase in barriers to attending games (that you need a negative test, so nothing massively onerous), this is a precipitous decline in interest in the big clubs of Slovenia. Even Mura’s domestic attendances have fallen this season so far, perhaps the most robust in the league, albeit that can be partially attributed to games being shifted to Sunday evenings because of their European commitments and that the Radomlje game took place in a monsoon.

While Slovenia’s eventful title races have had an impact in terms of neutral interest in the league, the reality is that the malaise at the top end of the league that has caused this has sapped the resolve of the fans of the biggest clubs. More people care a little bit about the outcome of the Slovenian league because of two consecutive seasons of shock winners being crowned in massively dramatic circumstances but fewer people are consumed with passion by it because of what is beginning to become consistent underperformance from both traditional giants of the game in Maribor and Olimpija.

To begin with Olimpija, as is reasonably commonly said any time I talk about them, Olimpija gonna Olimpija. They are dysfunctional and they are disconnected from their fans and, perhaps, outright disconnected from logic and reality itself. This season so far has been tumultuous after their pre-season was derailed by allegations that resulted in Ziga Frelih, Radivoj Bosic and Mihailo Perovic all released from the club. Their form has been unpredictable at best with such positives as a 3-1 win over Maribor followed by a 3-1 loss to Koper and 2-0 loss to city rivals Bravo. They have spent big in bringing Almedin Ziljkic to the club, who does at least look a very good player. Against reigning champions Mura at the weekend, Olimpija lost only 1-0 but were under the cosh for most of the game getting caught both high and narrow regularly even before Timi Max Elsnik was sent off for a high, studs up challenge that would have been a sending off in any league at any point in time. Mura are one thing, a naturally awkward team whose entire attacking format is based around counterattacking and dropping between lines, but the 2-0 defeat to Bravo was perhaps the most worrying for Savo Milosevic. Quite aside from any concept of local bragging rights, Olimpija were mightily poor.

Maribor’s issues are, well, the same as they have been for about two years - easy to counter on and unimaginative in attack. Their 3-0 loss to Aluminij this weekend was perhaps the most embarrassing result the club have suffered in some time - Aluminij were bottom but, more than that, had scored only twice in their opening seven league games of the season before taking Maribor to the woodshed. Simon Rozman has come under serious pressure as a result and it’s easy to see why - outside of their opening day win over Celje, a team still developing, there isn’t a result Rozman could point to as an outright positive. Even their latest win, against Tabor Sezana four games ago, can barely count in that column given the Cherries have since upgraded manager and that Tabor Sezana’s away form is almost a trope in how reliably poor it is.

Rozman and Sporting Director Marko Suler have been reasonably ambitious in getting players out of the club yet it’s hard to make any sort of case that the side is actually any stronger. The likes of Cretu and Matko as options that would have started last season that have moved on haven’t been replaced and while much of the releases over the spring and summer were of depth options, that doesn’t mean they’ve necessarily been adequately replaced. Maribor are almost unrecognisable compared to twelve months ago as even those they’ve brought in are, in many cases, obscure. Only Danijel Sturm, brought in from second tier Bilje, could go down as a player who is meeting/exceeding the expectations he will have had when brought in. The rest just sort of doesn’t seem to work. With Suler and Rozman, Maribor have tried to enact a revolution to revitalise what was very much a flagging club in recent years at the close of the Zahovic era. Instead, they’ve found that there was some way further to go for them to drop before they can bounce back.

Both are a reasonable explanation of a drop in interest/passion from their support. Olimpija fans aren’t exactly Mandaric fans because over his tenure at the club, they have regularly been a mess on and off the field. Like any side where fans have legitimate issues with the owners (and, unlike, say, Newcastle, where demand doesn’t outstrip supply), ticket sales drop as people choose to stay home rather than spend their money on disappointing Dragons green with envy at the success of smaller clubs. For Maribor, it isn’t a surprise that people turned away from the club as the smouldering embers of the Zahovic era began to go out permanently because the club was providing a low standard of entertainment and, since the Zahovic era ended, the club has provided a lower standard of playing staff to go along with it. The club’s golden age is gone and while Rozman’s remit was to remove all remnants of it, all that has happened is that the differences between then and now have been made more stark.

Which leaves Slovenian football in a bit of a quandary. For one, there are other sports muscling in - who could really blame anyone changing their attention towards Slovenia’s very real world class superstars in Pogacar, Roglic and Doncic, all of whom have reached new heights while fans weren’t able to go to football games. Slovenia, arguably, is the only nation whose football has faced a perfect storm of having superstars come through during COVID while football’s empires ended at the same time. There has been less a changing of the guard within football and more a vacuum into which other sports have encroached.

This is not to belittle the likes of title winners Celje or title winners Mura or currently six points clear Koper but they have not been able, as yet, to capitalise or maintain the consistency to make Slovenia’s big two a big three or more. That takes time and sustained excellence - Mura might, with their European exploits, get to that point domestically but, when combined with the low winning points totals of the past couple of years, it is easy to entertain the suggestion that Slovenia’s habit of excellent title races has been a byproduct of a fall in quality at the top sides rather than necessarily a great leap forward from anyone else. European failures such as both Maribor and Olimpija being outclassed in the Conference League qualifiers by Hammarby and Santa Clara respectively add further credence to that theory.

While competition in the Prva Liga is arguably the strongest it has ever been and the overall standard of play in the division has not decreased, the difference between the top end and the bottom has shrunk and that has been almost entirely caused by a drop in quality at the top rather than a severe uptick of the smaller sides. That, eventually, will begin to impact on UEFA coefficients, particularly as the following two seasons will see Slovenia’s larger coefficient season totals drop out of the equation and run the risk of a fall to 35th in the table (which would mean every team starts in 1QR of the ECL when Slovenia should be eyeing a rise to 28th in the table which means everyone starts in 2QR).

But clubs need bums in seats to help sustain investment otherwise the money coming into the league will almost solely be from Europe. Celje have been able to use last season’s CL money to fund their squad and, finally, this weekend vs Domzale it looked like money well spent - they travel away to Olimpija and then Maribor as their next league games and that will go a long way towards firming up their credentials. Mura have a bit of money and the late pick-up of last season’s league top scorer Nardin Malahusejnovic once European group football was confirmed was a good bit of business. For both Maribor and Olimpija, it must be galling to see the path to greatness seem more simple for provincial clubs compared to the paths they must face.

Slovenia has a great competition. The Prva Liga is arguably the most reliable title race in Europe when it comes to delivering drama. But, in the long run, it needs an internal food chain to drag fans back through the gates. After all, should Koper go on to win the title this season, it will be a shock but it will be less of a shock than Mura which, in turn, was less of a shock than Celje because the consistent failings of Maribor and Olimpija have made those odds that bit easier to overcome.

Both Vecni Derbi giants are at a crossroads with fans staying at home. Both have slipped because of their own failings and both seem not to know how to right their course.

For Slovenian football’s sake, they need to.

[brookstonalmanac]

Events 11.9

694 – At the Seventeenth Council of Toledo, Egica, a king of the Visigoths of Hispania, accuses Jews of aiding Muslims, sentencing all Jews to slavery. 1277 – The Treaty of Aberconwy, a humiliating settlement forced on Llywelyn ap Gruffudd by King Edward I of England, brings a temporary end to the Welsh Wars. 1313 – Louis the Bavarian defeats his cousin Frederick I of Austria at the Battle of Gammelsdorf. 1330 – At the Battle of Posada, Basarab I of Wallachia defeats the Hungarian army of Charles I Robert. 1456 – Ulrich II, Count of Celje, last ruler of the County of Cilli, is assassinated in Belgrade. 1520 – More than 50 people are sentenced and executed in the Stockholm Bloodbath. 1620 – Pilgrims aboard the Mayflower sight land at Cape Cod, Massachusetts. 1688 – Glorious Revolution: William of Orange captures Exeter. 1720 – The synagogue of Judah HeHasid is burned down by Arab creditors, leading to the expulsion of the Ashkenazim from Jerusalem. 1729 – Spain, France and Great Britain sign the Treaty of Seville. 1780 – American Revolutionary War: In the Battle of Fishdam Ford a force of British and Loyalist troops fail in a surprise attack against the South Carolina Patriot militia under Brigadier General Thomas Sumter. 1791 – Foundation of the Dublin Society of United Irishmen. 1799 – Napoleon Bonaparte leads the Coup of 18 Brumaire ending the Directory government, and becoming First Consul of the successor Consulate Government. 1851 – Kentucky marshals abduct abolitionist minister Calvin Fairbank from Jeffersonville, Indiana, and take him to Kentucky to stand trial for helping a slave escape. 1862 – American Civil War: Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac, after George B. McClellan is removed. 1867 – Tokugawa shogunate hands power back to the Emperor of Japan, starting the Meiji Restoration. 1872 – The Great Boston Fire of 1872. 1881 – Mapuche rebels attack the fortified Chilean settlement of Temuco. 1887 – The United States receives rights to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. 1900 – Russia completes its occupation of Manchuria with 100,000 troops. 1906 – Theodore Roosevelt is the first sitting President of the United States to make an official trip outside the country. He did so to inspect progress on the Panama Canal. 1907 – The Cullinan Diamond is presented to King Edward VII on his birthday. 1913 – The Great Lakes Storm of 1913, the most destructive natural disaster ever to hit the lakes, reaches its greatest intensity after beginning two days earlier. The storm destroys 19 ships and kills more than 250 people. 1914 – SMS Emden is sunk by HMAS Sydney in the Battle of Cocos. 1917 – Balfour Declaration published in The Times newspaper. 1918 – Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution, and Germany is proclaimed a Republic. 1923 – In Munich, police and government troops crush the Nazi Beer Hall Putsch. 1935 – The Committee for Industrial Organization, the precursor to the Congress of Industrial Organizations, is founded in Atlantic City, New Jersey, by eight trade unions belonging to the American Federation of Labor. 1937 – Second Sino-Japanese War: The Chinese Army withdraws from the Battle of Shanghai. 1938 – Kristallnacht: the 1938 national pogrom instigated by the Nazis, using the excuse of the death from gunshot wounds of the Nazi German diplomat Ernst vom Rath, fired by Herschel Grynszpan. 1940 – Warsaw is awarded the Virtuti Militari by the Polish government-in-exile. 1953 – Cambodia gains independence from France. 1960 – Robert McNamara is named president of Ford Motor Company, the first non-Ford to serve in that post. A month later, he resigned to join the administration of newly elected John F. Kennedy. 1963 – At Miike coal mine, Miike, Japan, an explosion kills 458, and hospitalises 839 with carbon monoxide poisoning. 1965 – Several U.S. states and parts of Canada are hit by a series of blackouts lasting up to 13 hours in the Northeast blackout of 1965. 1965 – A Catholic Worker Movement member, Roger Allen LaPorte, protesting against the Vietnam War, sets himself on fire in front of the United Nations building. 1967 – Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft, atop the first Saturn V rocket, from Florida's Cape Kennedy. 1970 – Vietnam War: The Supreme Court of the United States votes 6–3 against hearing a case to allow Massachusetts to enforce its law granting residents the right to refuse military service in an undeclared war. 1979 – Cold War: Nuclear false alarm: The NORAD computers and the Alternate National Military Command Center in Fort Ritchie, Maryland detected purported massive Soviet nuclear strike. After reviewing the raw data from satellites and checking the early-warning radars, the alert is cancelled. 1985 – Garry Kasparov, 22, of the Soviet Union becomes the youngest World Chess Champion by beating fellow Soviet Anatoly Karpov. 1989 – Cold War: Fall of the Berlin Wall: East Germany opens checkpoints in the Berlin Wall, allowing its citizens to travel to West Berlin. 1993 – Stari Most, the "old bridge" in the Bosnian city of Mostar, built in 1566, collapses after several days of bombing by Croat forces during the Croat–Bosniak War. 1994 – The chemical element darmstadtium is discovered. 1998 – A U.S. federal judge, in the largest civil settlement in American history, orders 37 U.S. brokerage houses to pay US$1.03 billion to cheated NASDAQ investors to compensate for price fixing. 1998 – Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences. 1999 – TAESA Flight 725 crashes after takeoff from Uruapan International Airport in Uruapan, Michoacán, Mexico, killing all 18 people on board. 2000 – Uttarakhand officially becomes the 27th state of India, formed from thirteen districts of northwestern Uttar Pradesh. 2004 – Firefox 1.0 is released. 2005 – The Venus Express mission of the European Space Agency is launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. 2005 – Suicide bombers attack three hotels in Amman, Jordan, killing at least 60 people. 2012 – A train carrying liquid fuel crashes and bursts into flames in northern Myanmar, killing 27 people and injuring 80 others. 2012 – At least 27 people are killed and dozens are wounded in conflicts between inmates and guards at Welikada prison in Colombo. 2020 – Second Nagorno-Karabakh War: an armistice agreement is signed by Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.

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