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[ideasbaker]

—even knowing these two scenes are not the same, i really think it makes such a good work explaining why mileven and stancy should not be endgame, and most importantly, shows us how the wheeler siblings deal with emotions as strong as love.

“I- I care for you, so much.”

“care... but you- you don’t love me anymore?”

“who- who said that I didn’t?”

“you never say it!”

“I say it.”

“you can’t even write it mike. from, mike; from, mike; from, mike; from, mike; from, from, from!”

“okay! okay you’re being ridiculous! why? like- what is this? you- you know what I think of you! you’re the most incredible person in the world! and- you can’t let this mouth-breathers ruin you! ruin us! I mean- they’re nobody’s! they’re nobody’s! and you’re a superhero.”

“apparently uh- we killed barb, and I don’t care, because I’m bullshit. and our whole... our whole relationship is bullshit... I mean, pretty much everything is just bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. oh yeah, also: you don’t love me.”

“I was drunk steve. I don’t remember any of that.”

“so that makes everything you said... it’s what? just bullshit, too?”

“yes.”

“well, then tell me.”

“tell you what?”

“you love me.”

“really?”

—in both of these situations we see nancy and mike being confronted by their significant others on the fact that they can’t say they love them (in nancy’s case, being blamed for throwing to the trash all of their relationship after she gets drunk, which triggers a breakdown that she pushes onto steve). we need to have in mind that ted and kate wheeler don’t have the perfect relationship, in fact, in season 1 nancy tells jonathan how she thinks they never loved each other, and that their marriage had more to do with money than with love. this means that mike and nancy have grown up seeing their parents relationship and being told that that’s love, because when you’re a kid you assume what your parents do it’s the right thing, the good thing. once they were older they realized it wasn’t, and probably shielded themselves from emotions so they wouldn’t end up in a sad and tiring relationship like their parents. we see this in nancy mostly portrayed in season 1, seeing how she cares deeply for studies and how she knows what she wants in life is not a relationship but a good career (even when she starts dating steve, it never is her first priority). in nancy’s mind, keeping herself from strong feelings can protect her from heartbreak and all the shitty things her mom goes through just because she married the wrong man. in mike we see it in the way of how protective he is over his friends, which can lead to him being selfish, just like he said in season 3. in mike’s mind, being the leader of the group and being able to decide all the decisions gives him the power to push away any situations that could hurt him and his friends, like heartbreak.

now, to give this a bit of context, we need to realize both eleven and steve are people who show abandonment issues. in eleven’s case, is just as simple as stating the fact that she was locked in a lab for most of her life, without any knowledge of who her parents are, and being brainwashed into thinking the evil man who’s making her life hell is her dad, and that after going through all this, it’s very difficult to not be afraid of the first person who treated her right (mike) leaving. in steve’s case, we know his parents aren’t usually home, and that that bought him to hang out with the only people who were willing to hang out with him, and when those assholes leave him it obviously leaves fears towards others doing it too. it’s true that he was the one to leave them first, but imagine how steve must’ve felt when the only people who could be considered his friends left him without a second thought.

in mileven’s scene we see how mike first tries to convince eleven that he does love her, because he doesn’t like seeing his friends hurt, and when that doesn’t work, he tries and distract her with praise, because he can’t deal with explaining his emotions to her yet, but he also doesn’t want her to be hurt. in stancy’s scene steve is angry and sad and needs reassurance because his girlfriend and only friend told him he’s bullshit and everything that surrounds their relationship is too. nancy can’t reassurance him the way he wants, but still tries other way, which is by affirming that she doesn’t remember anything and that everything she said was in fact not true, and that he shouldn’t worry about it.

what i want to say with this is that steve and eleven have several self esteem problems and that need to be reminded they are loved, and that is not a bad thing, everyone needs to be remind it of it, but for that to be done by nancy and mike, they would need to work really hard on their commitment issues. in the other hand, will and jonathan have too, self esteem issues, but they repress it, and don’t need as much verbal reassurance but instead, actions that show how much they are loved. i say this because as i see it, joyce and lonnie’s relationship didn’t lack words of fake love declarations but lacked true love actions, this without mentioning that lonnie has been shown to be an aggressive man who made fun of his own kids just for fun. nancy and mike’s whole thing is showing their love by actions, such as how when mike went behind the cops and his parents just to find will, his best friend since childhood, and how nancy exposed herself to her flayed boss just to keep jonathan, the person who understands her best, safe. of course, when you enter a relationship you need to work on your own problems and sacrifice yourself a little for your partner’s happiness, but is that much sacrifice worth it? is it worth it for mike and nancy to end up hating their lives and also eleven and steve because they needed to change their whole personalities so they could be together? when jonathan and will, two people who understand them perfectly and don’t need to pressure them into stating verbally their love for them are right there?

sorry for it being so long i hope i made my point clear tho:)

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[nopeitsnotme706]

He is laying here beside me and I just want to scream ! You were just temporary, I'm sorry but someone else has my heart. I know who I want and it isn't you. He is such a good man but doesn't know how to love someone as fucked up as me.

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[coffeepdf]

This morning ☕ 9/18/18

Helloo! Waking up this morning to Lana Del Rey songs and a lot of motivation to start my day.

Today I want to:

Edit pic for Instagram

Edit new yt video

Finish new printable set and post

Journal

Clean desk and closet

I also need to do at least 2 Japanese lessons and review korean hehehe

Today is gonna be a busy daayyyy------

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[kdramastuff]

Lee Dong Wook is coming in another drama in December~ I didn't know who else to share my excitement with except you - no one appreciates him as much. I hope he gives more of his beloved exasperated facial expressions in this one ^^

He is coming back as the second lead in the super high profile drama alongside Gong Yoo, i know right! I’m wary about this drama because of the writer, she’s had both dramas that I hated and dramas that I enjoyed. I hope this one won’t make me drop it in disgust. I need Dong-wook to be in some really popular project, so i wish this Goblin thing success for the sake of the cast. 

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[ideasbaker]

—I like paper girls as much as everyone else but since I like it so much I became very determined to really analyze it and in the process found some inconsistencies that I wanna point out. for your information, I haven’t read the comics (yet) so there’s a big chance my questions can be easily explained with the comics or just with season 2. now let’s get to my point, spoilers ahead!

—the series stars with the main girls in hell day handing out newspapers and the next thing they know is the sky being purple.

us, the viewers, don’t know why the sky was covered in the different color until much later. it is implied that the purple was a second effect of ablution, the process the old watch goes through to erase civilians memories.

later on we are told everything the girls have gone through is a predestination paradox. if you don’t know what this is, it’s basically the loophole in time that it’s created after one person goes back to the past to prevent a future event from happening, only to discover said person was the one who initiated the unwanted event in the first place. a predestination paradox doesn’t have a beginning or an end, which makes a specific effect of a specific event to happen before said event occurs, in simpler words, the effect of a cause comes first than said cause, making a loophole. now going back to the series, the girls don’t really want to go back to fix anything, they want to go back because they’re away from their lives.

at first I was confused with this, because I didn’t even realize what event happened in the first episode that could have been made by them. it’s actually quite obvious. in the seven episode, erin, larry and juniper observe the purple sky that has only appeared in one side of larry’s farm. juniper eventually says that it isn’t a folding like they first thought, but a class 2 time rip. the show doesn’t really explain what a time rip is, but i’m guessing it’s what happens when timelines mix with each other, I say this because if we think about it, the girls should have never been in 2019 or 1999, and them being there is mixing the timelines of 1988, 1999 and 2019. what I want to explain with this is that it seems pretty obvious that the purple sky in the first episode is not ablution but the time rip caused by the girls being in 2019, and I’m only saying 2019 because juniper comments that the things coming from the time rip are from both 1988 and 2019. this being confirmed when they realize the one person who was in the other side of the walkie-talkie in the first episode was juniper, this meaning that the four girls were talking with their older by a few days selves in hell day.

now is when I start having doubts, the first one is larry, because we seen him die ten years before he can even help the girls to go to 1999 in the first place and his book being given to tiffany’s older self makes it definitely impossible to make the girls travel to 1999 and talk with their 1988 selves through the walkie-talkie to begin with. another thing that I don’t understand is that if the girls are part of a loophole that starts with them being 12 years old, wouldn’t that mean that every time they go back to 1988 they’re a bit older, making it impossible for their older selves to even exist? making it impossible for them to go with erin’s older self in the first place? this might just be me not understanding paradox logic but it just seems non-coherent, and another thing is that if they do in fact get older every time the loophole happens, how does the loophole keep working without mac? who is supposed to die at 16. does this mean that killing larry and not being sent to 1988 with their memories erased by the old watch breaks the loophole? also, if the ablution wasn’t ablution where was everyone in the first episode? but if it was ablution, what is the event that the girls created in the first place to create a predestination paradox? and the final thing, if tiffany’s older self makes her institute and created time travel, how is her younger self part of a loophole?

and of course there’s that cliffhanger with the four girls being separated and apparently erin and tiffany ending up in a year where they didn’t even exist yet. are they going to seek help to their parents? or just try to find mac and kj on their own?

I know most of this doesn’t make sense and that I’m probably thinking about it too much but I needed to share this with someone. please if you know the answers to these questions enlighten me and make my joy for this series even bigger. thanks for taking your time reading this!

#me vs paradox logic #love the show anyway tho #kj brandman #mac coyle #erin tieng #tiffany quilkin #kajemac #paper girls #paper girls spoilers #time travel #analysis #coffeethinks