#but anyway joe was fun

[angelamontoo]

I finally saw stranger on the third floor(kinda, the version I watched was of a very poor quality)

The movie as a whole was ok, but wow! I love the stranger. Also Joe Briggs

#stranger on the third floor #the stranger #joe briggs #i actually couldnt have watched it at a better time #ive been toying with the idea of a series of drawings of fusions between peter lorre characters and characters from silent films #and for some reason the idea of fusing the stranger and cesare from TCODC really jumps out to me #also im so sad there wasnt more of poor joe #obviously as a big peter lorre fan i feel like he was underutilised for how talented he was #but compared to some other very talented actors who were really fucked over by the industry i feel like peter was pretty lucky #at least hes remembered today and even with the respect he deserved by some people #at least peter was always credited and billed somewhere on promotional stuff for his films #even if his name wasnt always as high up or prominently featured as it should be #compared to some other pretty talented people Peter did wrll for himself #Idk i really like Elisha cook jr and I think he deserves to have the parts he played remembered more #like even though the 41 maltese falcon film is the most popular and its other actors are mostly synonymous with the roles they played #I feel like when most people think of wilmer they think of dwight frys portrayal #and im sure he did a great job with the character aswell #but it makes me kinda sad as someone who thinks ECJ does a great job with his scant screentime #but anyway joe was fun #and i hope both he and the stranger survived #and put all that nonsense behind them and became friends

[cccotard]

school day :p

#got to draw whatever i wanted for my backgrounds class so you knoww i gotta hit em with my yttd bs #love these guys so bad #drawing this was so much fun so silly #but i wish i gave myself more time #spent the whole time being like ‘O lets add this and this and that’ #but alas #no time #anyways #yttd #your turn to die #yttd fanart #your turn to die fanart #kgs #kimi ga shine #sara chidouin #yttd sara #joe tazuna #joe yttd #ryoko hirose #ryoko yttd #ranmaru kageyama #ranmaru yttd #gin ibushi #gin yttd #hinako mishuku #hinako yttd #anzu kinashi #anzu yttd #kanna yttd #kugie yttd

[coldarena]

uniform studies + kit lists

#theres literally no cohesion between anyones uniform like. they all have diff bits at any moment. anyway! studies #hbo war #band of brothers #the pacific #masters of the air #joe toye #eugene sledge #rosie rosenthal #ww2 #ww2 uniforms #also wanna do service/dress uniforms and the other airmen flying kits becoz theres so much variation in each + its fun researching #this comes from my oc stuff but i like giving their uniforms slight colour variations to tell them apart like rosies is more pink toned #bubbles is more blue/dark grey. sledge is cool tones. snaf is warm etc. the bob guys are all the same shade tho

[buckysbarnes]

Which one are you giving?

#joe keery #jkeeryedit #joekeeryedit #userallisyn #usereri #usertiny #userspree #usersugar #usermaguire #useraimz #userchelsea #userraffa #tuserlyn #** #*jk #© #just wanted to do something cute and fun~ #anyway <3 u all

[fantasykiri5]

A pair of birds of prey for days 15 and 16 of @hermitadaymay !!! Definitely not a day and a half (?) late

#my art #Hermitaday #hermitadaymay #hermitadaymay2024 #hermit-a-day may #Hermit-a-day may 2024 #Hermitcraft #hermitcraft fanart #falsesymmetry #falsesymmetry fanart #welsknight #welsknight gaming #welsknight fanart #WHY DID I DECIDE TO DRAW THE STUPIDEST POSE FOR FALSE AND ARMOR FOR WELS AND WINGS FOR THEM BOTH ALL IN ONE DRAWING… #These cunts have six total hours tracked on them… I didn’t even do a background because they took so long… #and thats not even counting looking for armor and feather references like this took two straight days #I’m very proud of it though #anyways they’re NOT related I was in the middle of drawing and realized they looked uncannily alike. So I made the wise decision to give- #-Wels the same mole I give False and the same little lower lash because they’re nose and eye shapes already matched #they’re not siblings (shown by one of them not even being an actual raptor bird) but they do look uncannily similar #and I’ve decided now that my False and Wels like to just lie to people and say they’re twins for fun. #They both have fucked up doppelgängers they would find it funny. #anyways False is a red tailed hawk (specifically a dark morph) #and Wels is a peregrine falcon #armor is so hard to draw guys never draw armor it SUCKS. I did get to have Laois Dunmeshi Touden on my screen for reference the whole time- #-I was drawing Wels though so it’s not all bad #still baffled I draw the human body part of that pose for false so easily though. Fully believe I was possessed by one of the Greek muses- #-or something because I do not know enough about anatomy to have that shit memorized but it looked normal when I looked at it so. Shrugs #anyways YES i will get to Etho tomorrow… I may just draw him WITH Joe because I wanna draw him but I don’t wanna think about posing two- #-difference pieces… though then I’d have to pose them together… but the appeal of putting a Kakashi cosplayer and a muppet next to each-

[theminecraftbee]

hermit horror week day 7: season 9 or from beyond

Q: HOW LONG WAS SHE MISSING?

A: That's, uh, quite the thing to start this out on, Joe, I mean. When you said you wanted to interview me for an article about my role at Blue River Raceway, I didn't think you'd... Who do you mean?

Q: YOU'RE DODGING THE QUESTION.

A: And you're starting off a bit too strong. Seriously, I might think you're lying.

Q: I MEAN, I LIED A LITTLE. I DIDN'T THINK YOU'D ANSWER QUESTIONS IF I DIDN'T.

A: I can leave.

Q: I MADE FRIENDS WAY BACK WHEN WE WENT TO EMPIRES. WITH SOMEONE WHO WASN'T OLLIE.

A: I don't have to answer this.

Q: HOW LONG WAS SHE MISSING?

A: I don't know who you're talking about.

Q: I THINK YOU DO.

A: I think if I knew, she was dangerous. She knew how to modify memories. She wasn't safe to be friends with, Joe. You should--you should get that checked out. I mean, think about what a me who didn't care for you might do, and then, like, go to a doctor about it.

Q: SO YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.

A: I'm... not supposed to. I think she tried to make me forget she was ever there.

Q: HOW LONG WAS SHE MISSING?

A: Look, time is weird. It was after I built my base. Before the Rift. Only slightly before then, though, because time isn't the same on both sides. If I'd known that, I would have been more careful. Sent her better supplies, too. Brought my own memory potions. I wouldn't have just... followed you all blindly. Not that I did.

Q: YOU KNEW SHE WAS GONE?

A: Of course I did. I had to be prepared.

Q: PREPARED FOR WHAT?

A: Joe, she's dangerous. You have to know she's dangerous. I did what had to be done, after she got dangerous, and I did what had to be done, after she escaped. I was prepared. I knew what would happen if she found you all.

Q: YOU WERE GOING TO KILL HER.

A: Well, when you put it like that...

Q: SHE WAS NICE TO ME. YOU HUNTED ME OUT OF HERMITOPIA--

A: Hey, don't characterize it like that, you know as well as I do how much that was a game--

Q: LET ME FINISH THE QUESTION. SHE GAVE ME A HOME. SHE WAS NICE. WHY DO YOU SAY SHE'S DANGEROUS?

A: Joe, how much of your time in Cogsmede do you remember?

Q: I'M THE INTERVIEWER.

A: And I'm trying to tell you. How much do you remember? Did she show you everything? Did she tell you why she wanted you there?

Q: STOP THAT.

A: Because I know she liked to hunt people. That's part of why I locked her up in the first place. Tried to figure out what had gone wrong with her. You kept asking how long she was missing, and I, I tried to keep you all safe. You have to understand I had to do it. And--how much do you remember?

Q: I MEAN, I KNOW ABOUT THE HEADS.

A: Joe.

Q: MY BEST FRIEND'S CLEO, I REALLY CAN'T JUDGE ABOUT THE HEADS.

A: You have to know she's dangerous then. And she just let you remember?

Q: NO SHE DIDN'T. I'M JUST BAD AT FORGETTING THINGS I'M SUPPOSED TO. I HAVE A SURPRISINGLY ROBUST MEMORY! I JUST--DO YOU THINK SHE'S OKAY?

A: It's not that simple.

Q: DO YOU CARE?

A: It's not that simple. But yes. Of course I care. Of course I... Of course I do. I couldn't not.

Q: HOW LONG WAS SHE MISSING?

A: Since slightly after the Rift closed. I sent her a letter. I haven't heard back.

Q: TELL ME IF YOU DO.

A: Fine. I will.

Q: I CAN ACTUALLY ASK YOU ABOUT THE RACE TRACK NOW IF YOU'D LIKE.

A: I mean, I built the sign. What else is there to say, in the face of all that?

#hermithorrorweek2023 #a bee fic #hermitcraft #empires smp #falsesymmetry #joe hills #this is another 'kind of goes for both' fic if you squint #ANYWAY STILL FOREVER THINKING ABOUT EMPIRES FALSE HUH #ALSO. WOOOOO FINISHED A WHOLE PROMPT WEEK!!!! #normally i'm SO BAD at prompt weeks this one was FUN #(also if it's a few minutes after midnight my time zone. no it's not.)

[entropyvoid]

Joe and Cleo

For my second painting in my little alt fashion hermits series, I present to you Joe playing the role of every dude I knew in high school if they were just a lil bit braver with their fashion choices, and Cleo if she was a Monster High doll.

#mcyt #mcyt fashion au #hermitcraft #joe hills #zombiecleo #cherallart #scene fashion #emo fashion #watercolor #I also gave Joe like. Half of my high school fashion sense tbh. #They split a pair of lime green fishnet gloves bc they are besties #I’ve actually never really attempted to design a scene character so this was a lot of fun! I see the appeal of the style now #I was uhhhhhh gonna add hair stripes but I forgot. Oops. #It’s fine though she looks great without it #Anyway support my art reblogs are better than likes blah blah you know the drill

[youssefguedira]

V, JoeNicky & Nile

V. An abandoned or empty place.

When Joe pulls the sheet off the couch it kicks up enough dust that it makes Nile sneeze. The couch underneath is old, wooden frame rotting, fabric stained and full of holes where moths have eaten away at it. 

“Sorry,” Joe says to Nile when she finally manages to get the sneezing under control. “Didn’t realise it was that bad.” He puts his hands on his hips and looks down at the couch. Nile looks it over.

“There’s no saving that,” she says, wiping at her eyes. She can heal from falling over ten stories, but she can’t get away from allergies.

Joe frowns. “I liked that couch.”

The house is older than anywhere else they’ve brought her, and has been abandoned for long enough that it’s falling apart. But through some trick of posing as their own sons, or something, Joe and Nicky still own it, even if there’s a giant hole in the roof and all the windows are broken. Why they’d decided to come back here, Nile doesn’t know, but it’s a nice enough area, and a good distraction from, well. Everything. Growing back a leg, she’s discovered, is not fun. 

From one of the other rooms – she thinks it’s the kitchen, she’s not actually sure where Nicky had wandered to – there’s the sound of something breaking and crashing to the ground, and a muffled curse. 

Joe makes a questioning noise in the vague direction of the kitchen. A few moments later, Nicky appears in the doorway, covered in dust. “I am okay,” he says. “But I think we will need to go out to eat tonight.”

“Nothing?” 

Nicky shakes his head. “Unless you want to start a fire and go hunt some rabbits.”

Joe grins. “Just like old times, right?”

Nile shakes her head firmly, which makes Nicky smile. She loves them, but there’s no way they’re doing that. 

“We can probably clear out enough space in here,” Joe says, gesturing to the floor. “Get the sleeping bags out of the car. Probably have to start a fire anyway, but…”

Nile looks around again while Joe says something to Nicky in Arabic that makes him laugh. The house is falling apart, sure, but it’s structurally stable, and the bones are all there. It could be something. They’ve got time to make it something. 

Nicky is the one who goes for pizza in the end – he doesn’t trust Nile and Joe to order it if left to their own devices – while they try to clear out a space in the living room. Eventually, though, after Nile has another sneezing fit, Joe suggests they just take the sleeping bags outside instead, which works out a lot better. He sets about starting a fire with practiced ease while Nile sets out the sleeping bags around it. They’re far enough away from civilisation that she can’t hear cars passing by, which is kind of surreal, and the stars are brighter than she’s ever seen them. 

When Nicky gets back, two boxes balanced on one arm and a bottle of wine in the other, he looks over their makeshift camp and laughs. “Just like old times, then?” he asks.

Joe grins. “Except we have pizza.”

“And actual sleeping bags,” Nile says.

“Ah, these modern inventions could never quite match the comfort of a pile of furs,” Joe says wistfully. Nile gives him a look. She’s ninety percent sure that one’s bullshit, but she can never quite tell with him. 

Nicky sets down the pizza boxes, and jogs back to the car to grab the pack of plastic wine glasses they’d bought before they got here. 

“We should’ve bought marshmallows,” Nile says. “Could have made s’mores.”

“Well, we’ll have to go to the hardware store tomorrow anyway,” Joe points out. “And I think it’ll be a little while before we can actually sleep in there.”

“Tomorrow, then?”

“Tomorrow,” Nicky agrees.

#neon answers #materassassino #neon writes #kaysanova #nile freeman #what's going on here? who knows. they're renovating an old safehouse in the middle of nowhere #why isnt andy there? off on a solo self discovery road trip she calls em sometimes #i like to think its a really old one and when they were deciding where to go joe was getting super nostalgic about it and talking about it #to nicky like habibi.... do you remember that little house we had a few years ago..... we should go back there..... #(local 900 year old man confused 'a few years' for like 150 and didn't realise until they got there) #(and promptly went hm. i think it may need some work) #(nile. who had been expecting an Actual Functional House. just has to sit there for a moment) #they're having fun though. she and joe are gonna have fun painting on the walls. etc #nicky doesn't trust them with pizza because nile (not picky) and joe (LOVES to annoy nicky) will deliberately order the worst looking optio #like. dominoes had a cheeseburger pizza. that's what they're going for #nicky let this happen two (2) times before just going for pizza himself #when andy's there it's even worse she will get margherita but she'll also 'add her own toppings' #like my parents who put chinese takeout on pizza. it's good i'm sorry i know i'm expecting to be banned from italy soon #ANYWAY #thank you for the prompt!! i had fun <3

[twsted-canvas]

Leota Dorm Uniform SSR

"Yeah, sure, I'll come along. Just don't do anything stupid, okay?"

#Eri's Art #Standing on the table shaking some poor souls collar: the candelabra is a reference to the floating one in the haunted mansion ride get it? #ANYway this was fun :') #leota yuleman #Quite the unwhimsical last name you might be thinking but that was kind of the point hahahaha #I wanted her to just feel and look like like some random joe just yoinked from our world with nothing initially noticeable about her. #Still kept the “yu” part in there though ;) #One day I'll make a proper profile for her... one day :') #twisted wonderland #twst oc #twst sona #artists on tumblr

[burrowingdweller]

Blink ✨

#joseph gilgun #joe gilgun #a bit messed up but oh anyway #eyebrows 🥺 #cute 🥺 #also i know nothing about animation just sometimes make smth for fun

[treyisms]

sellout! remer is so “if coops not treatin you right you just come see me and ill fix u right up”. like you’re coops first gf and he really wants to please you, so he has remer show him how to make you feel good. so remer is like knuckle deep in you and you’re whining and coop has your head in his lap giving you kisses and shushing you to comfort you, and remers like cut it out dude shes fine. but then hes unbuckling his belt and coops like um dude what are you doing? and remers like “well i gotta check if shes stretched enough for you buddy!” its literally just a blatant excuse to fuck you but coop hasn’t caught on and you want remer just as much as he wants you and remers so shitty like “alright y/n, coops smaller than me but its better to have a bigger cock first so you can mold to it, so squeeze me extra tight okay?”. the soft naivety of coop looking down at you with so much love while remer is literally plowing his gf & coop going to give u kisses to remind you he’s there <3 :’)

#anyways… #goodnight ❤️ #peace love and hugs oomfies its been fun #before bed thoughts are wild who let me watch baseketball 😭😭😭😭😭 #gg saw it first <333 #doug remer x reader #joe cooper x reader #coop cooper x reader #baseketball x reader

[cardis-tricycle]

Tobias Forge on the collaboration with Def Leppard | oui.fm 2023

#yeah yeah the editing is like real shit xD #actually I only wanted to gif his 'ohh okay' because its completely him #and the gif with him talking about fun xD #but anyway #heaviergifs #the band ghost #ghost bc #tobias forge interview #tobias forge gifs #tobias forge #ghost spillways feat joe elliott #impera spillways #def leppard #joe elliott #the band ghost gifs

[buckysbarnes]

JOE KEERY as GABE  HENRY GAMBLE’S BIRTHDAY PARTY (2015)

#joe keery #joekeeryedit #henry gamble’s birthday party #filmedit #jkeeryedit #filmgifs #moviegifs #cinematv #** #*jk #© #this movie lfmao #sebastian and joe really do be in the oddest films #anyway i just made this for like a fun second #enjoy this view of him #because ✌🏻😮‍💨 #1k

[toxiccaves]

Opinion on power joe 🎤

I think Power Joe is STUPID and SMELLY and is definitely the more annoying one. Not fun to combine with either! And he doesn't even wash his hands after he has his oil changed-

#asks #anonymous #drillboy get off my computer u got dorito fingers all over my keyboard #GENUINE power joe opinion though. oh hes so fun n silly. what a guy. absolutely love his episode with lua too tbh #i guess this is more an opinion on that ep but how his team chose to respect his delusion as well as him loving past looks or even if- #-lua was sentient or not that he still loved her in the end. augh #himbo reclaiming arc. let him n lua be together!!!! bpjd why u gotta hurt us like this #ah anyway back on pj. however despite his sillies and handsome design i think he was too mean to db sometimes. #dweeboy biases aside even!! no yelling at him for not picking up on conversation tones! #back again with the whole answer in the tags lets goooo

[sweetest-honeybee]

Nothing like going through and reading fun character things on clowns blog at 5am and simultaneously laughing at most and sobbing from how cute others are

#Joe the tomato sprout my beloved… #anyways im learning lots of great things so hopefully I’ll use them in drawings or sumn eventually #it would be fun to take some more things into consideration for AUs and whatnot

[27-royal-teas]

literally on my knees begging for the phoenix essay because it’s my all time fave fall out boy song and it makes me feel emotions on the shrimp spectrum

ok!! well!! ask and you shall receive, dear anon, your wish is my command :)) and because i love when people are excited about what i have to say and you are very nice <33 however, i will warn you, this is less of a structured essay and more of a massive infodump, so be warned !!

OK SO. THE PHOENIX. first off musically it's a fantastic song. and its actually scientifically proven that typically strings are used to increase musical tension and emotional tension so usually when you hear fast strings it means that they (the artist) want you to feel stressed, angry, or excited. We can apply this to the beginning of The Phoenix specifically because fob wants you to get hyped!!! It's their opening song for their newest album and for them, this shit is TERRIFYING. will you still want them or will you skip to another song? It's such a stark contrast to the first line of cork tree ("brothers and sisters, put this record down") because they want you to do the exact opposite of that. This is the one they want to use to hook you, to pull you in. Fall Out Boy is back, and this time they've brought even more intensity than before. They want to know: will you still be here? will you listen? these strings are not quite the old fall out boy, will you find them compelling and stick around?

andys drum work on this song is also INCREDIBLE. It's got this pounding, heavy beat. i constantly say that andy is the backbone of the band and i feel like that's more musically apparent in this song than anything. If i really want to scrounge for symbolism, I can say that by making andy's drumbeat stand out so much more in this song, the band is saying that they as a whole are more stable and reliable, just like their backbone. the drummer keeps the beat, the pace. they keep the band on track. together, the instruments (drum, strings, bass) bring the song together into a really rounded sound and it feels so FULL. there are some songs that are spiky, but this one is round all the way through.

and now that we're through with talking about the music itself, let's talk about the lyrics. i love the lyrics in this song so fucking much. it's so pete wentz and even more than that it's the most perfect song to open with. im gonna try to discuss every line and how it relates to the album and fall out boy's history at the time of release + they message they attempt to convey with this song and album. ive been wanting to make an essay on this for a while actually so thank you for giving me this ask as an opportunity to barf my stupid brain out onto tumblr

ok anyway let's start off with the first line-- "put on your war paint". this line is repeated twice: the very beginning and the very end. Why? because it's bold. this album is called save rock and roll. it is giving us a mission to accomplish from the very start. we are gearing up for a war. this is the image that is being painted of the entire album, and it starts from the very beginning- put on your war paint, prepare for battle. the first song is us (cough, the band, cough) preparing for the war as a whole. this is the intro, the gather, the plan. because we are saving rock and roll, through this album. this is the revival. we are bringing it home. this part musically is very strong and it feels like structure. we are showing here how much power and stability we have. also it makes me think of that one picture of pete putting on eyeliner

i am skipping the entire first verse for now but i will be back to it in a bit i promise! i want to talk about the chorus: “hey Youngblood/ doesn’t it feel/ like our time is running out/ im gonna change you like a remix/ then I’ll raise you like a phoenix”. we’re just going to go over the first half first because it’s kind of long. I think it’s in interesting choice, ‘Youngblood’. it kind of makes me think of mcr’s killjoys. it’s the motif, i guess— this haunting youth. ‘Youngblood’ addresses us ourselves, full of life and blood and rage. it again goes with the plot line of the album. the chorus has a paced feel, like running through a field at top speed. ‘like our time is running out’ references again the portion of ‘we were gone for so long, will you still listen?’ fall out boy’s limited time is nearly out here. they are fighting the clock. they are years older and more mature and they’ve GROWN. their time is running out and they are begging us to listen. and then my FAVORITE line, probably in this whole song. ‘I’m gonna change you like a remix, then I’ll raise you like a phoenix’. This entire album is a result of change. Folie a Deux was harshly criticized by the media and the fans because it was a change from fob’s norm. they were mocked mercilessly and basically TOLD TO CHANGE. now, here, they are back, they have made it through alive, and they are better than ever. basically, they have changed but on their own terms. you know how a phoenix is reborn through their ashes? They burn to a crisp when they’ve reached their limit and 100 years later are reborn as babies again. This is why the phoenix is such an important song to open with from the beginning of the album, as well as a fantastic metaphor for the band themselves— because it tells you from the start. Fall out boy is the same, but they have changed. They have grown. And they are better than ever, musically and mentally. This is also good symbolism for rising again even when defeated, which I’ll touch on again later

now, onto the second half of the chorus. The phoenix line is repeated, but preceding that is "wearing our vintage misery/ no, i think it looked a little better on me". fall out boy is kind of known as being part of the 'emo trinity' which, at the time of release, consisted of MCR, FOB and Panic! At The Disco. Personally id replace panic with paramore just because i dislike brendon urie strongly but thats just me. anyway, emo as a subculture in itself is incredibly emotional, and that's the point- emo is short for emotional. (feel free to correct me about any of this at any point of time btw, i am in no way an expert). a consistent trend was a lot of black clothing and the haircuts. i guess this isnt relevant. the relevant part was the emotion. fall out boy in 2009 was miserable. all the members were constantly at each other's throats, and eventually they just called it quits (everyone thought they would never come back, which is why the phoenix metaphor works here). by saying 'wearing our vintage misery' they are saying that they are bringing back that sort of emo-emotional aspect back into their new music, their trademark depressing lyrics, but it's improved. it's a better look on them now because they are doing so much better mentally than they were doing before.

let's backtrack a step to discuss the prechorus: "so we can take the world back from a heart attack/ one maniac at a time we will take it back/ you know time crawls on when you're waiting for the song to start so dance alone to the beat of your heart". pete fucking went OFF in this entire song but this section specifically. musically, the prechorus slows it down. it gives the song tension before exploding into the chorus. the first half of the prechorus again brings up the image of SAVE ROCK AND ROLL. i cant exactly recall what horrific events happened in 2013 to give the world a metaphorical heart attack, because i was very young and stupid and unaware of a lot, but i love the word choice here. one MANIAC at a time we will take it back. we are uniting the beaten, the broken and the damned. pretty much all the big names in emo have made their alliances clear: we take in the ones you don't want. they are the hufflepuffs of music. we will take your maniacs, we will take your people. we will build an army of the ones no one loves and we will take back our world together. possibly im interpreting this wrong but. i just think that's a really lovely image.

(also, pete has a motif in his songs-- mania. theres the entire album, for one, but this, as well.)

"time crawls on when youre waiting for the song to start so dance alone to the beat of your heart" is less obviously clear about rebellion and taking back change but it still is incredibly strong about this nonetheless. you can't sit and wait around for change. you can't expect the good things to come to you immediately, that isn't how the world works. when no one is there to lead you, to guide you, you're gonna have to do it yourself. your heart is steady and it knows the way. trust it. dance alone to the beat of your heart.

ok so now im going back to the first verse. sorry for skipping around the song so much. "you are a brick tied to me that's dragging me down/ strike a match and i'll burn you to the ground" i feel like honestly this line is kind of obvious- someone is holding him (pete) back. i'm not going to outright say it was about ashlee (his current ex-wife) because pete never explicitly confirmed it but it definitely seems super likely judging by the time this was written (pete and ashlee divorced in 2011, which was two years before this song was released).

at this point in writing this essay brain barf my thoughts have become a little dead so im looking at lyricgenius to see what they're saying and it is. so not helpful. like bro pls. add some context to WHY these lyrics are arranged this way. but never mind that FOCUS ON THE WRITING TOBY FUCK

ANYWAY. the next line in this verse is "we are the jack o' lanterns in july, setting fire to the sky/ here, here comes with this rising tide, so come on/ put on your war paint". another theme constantly in Pete Wentz Lyrics is summer. i am drawing the connection here specifically from this song and fourth of july. and there it is again! put on your war paint!

fun fact: the story of the jack o lantern apparently is that some guy named jack made a bargain with satan and was doomed to wander the earth with only the company of a hollowed out turnip. again-- the wanderers. we bring in the wanderers, we take them as our own. we are the light in the darkness. we will set the world ablaze. so come on! get ready for war! we will roll in with the tide, and like a tide, we will destroy if we have to, not because we want to, but because it is in our nature.

final line in the verse: "cross walks and crossed hearts and hope to die/ silver clouds with grey lining". these are two popular phrases that have been altered in minor ways that make a huge difference. ive noticed pete tends to do that often. here hes changed 'cross my heart and hope to die' and 'every cloud has a silver lining'. this change is super important because it flips the themes of the two phrases (The Truth Has Been Spoken and There Is Always a Positive, respectively) and it darkens it. what is the correlation between cross walks and hoping to die? the cars. and by saying 'silver clouds with grey lining' he is flipping the saying to read as 'even though something seems light, there is always a dark side... kind of like a yin yang. which makes me think of the current logo, the smiley-frown. it's always about balance and it's always about an even distribution. but that is irrelevant.

and let's have a chat about the second verse: "bring home the boys in scraps/ scrap metal the tanks/ get hitched, make a career out of robbing banks/ because the world is just a teller and we are wearing black masks/ 'you broke our spirit' says the note we pass". this is the most important verse in the song, because this is where the entire theme shows the best. i think from the very start we can make two connections just reading this here, and i bet i can guess what you thought from the start. I bet you saw 'bring home the boys in scraps' and thought oh, toby is totally going to connect that to their motif about 'bring together the unwanted.' and i bet you saw 'we are wearing black masks' and thought ah, toby will definitely relate that to the first line in novocaine. and yeah, you're right. you know me too well, i am a predictable guy. because i 100% will. we KNOW fall out boy. the best example i can use to argue my first point off the top of my head is that they were initially marketed to teenage girls. they were a pop band. i mean, no one can really call them pop now (god, i miss music from the 2000s) but, yeah. no one in the rock or punk scene wanted teenage girls to like their music (because clearly teenage girls were so uncool or whatever) so fall out boy marketed themselves to them. they took in the fans no one wanted.

also, a bank teller is the person who handles customer cash, which is something i did not know until about twenty minutes ago. in the case of a bank robbery, the robber would pass the bank teller a note so that there would be less of a scene. these kind of robberies are called 'note jobs'. so by saying "make a career out of robbing banks/ because the world is just a teller and we are wearing black masks/ 'you broke our spirit' says the note we pass" essentially the band is using a bank robbery as a metaphor for taking back the world and the injustice that has been served to them, as the youth youngbloods. we are trying to take it back as peacefully as possible, but we are still the ones on the side with the gun. the 'note we pass' is the robbery note. lyricgenius was absolutely shit it did not help me with this i feel very proud that i connected all the dots by myself but maybe i am just an idiot and this is already common knowledge.

we are almost done- this has gotten long, a lot longer than i thought it was going to be. hope that's okay. anyway we just have to go over the bridge and then i'll summarize the song as a whole: "the war is won before it's begun/ release the doves, surrender love". this repeats five times. the war is won before it's begun. this is connected to the second part- release the doves, surrender love- because the band doesn't really WANT to fight. they don't want to HAVE to take in the people who aren't given a category. if we could just learn to love those who were different, we might not have war. we would have won it before it's begun. on the third repeat, there is chanting in the background-- 'wave the white flag'. the white flag is a sign of surrender pretty much universally, and it goes hand in hand with what's being said here. and again. i feel like i keep repeating this- it's the intro song. why would they say this? because they don't really want to fight. remember, the point of a note job is to attract as little attention as possible. we don't want a war. we don't WANT to save rock and roll- but we have to. it is our job, as youth- as youngbloods. and THAT'S the message of this song. we are preparing for a fight for justice that we would rather not take part in, but we have to, to protect ourselves and our past and our future and our people.

this is what the band is saying-- we have been gone for so long, but we are back. and we are here to help. we have changed, but you have changed too, and we are better, and together we will take back what we have lost to achieve peace, even if it takes a millenia, even if we go down fighting. because ultimately, we, ourselves, the ostracized and the mocked and the hurt, we are worth it. We will rise above it like a phoenix reborn from the ashes because we are always worth it, and we will always come back.

#i wrote this in three different days with huge time gaps in between I hope it’s comprehensible #toby speaks #Toby’s asks #Toby’s meta #fob #fall out boy #save rock and roll #srar #the phoenix #I physically can’t look at this anymore if I do I’ll throw up #Hope you like it anyway anon!!! i appreciate the ask so much they’re so fun sorry for being so slow to answer #patrick stump #joe trohman #andy hurley #pete wentz