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theodore-lasso · 5 months
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So like certified bad day. My grandma died this morning and now I'm sick???? Bro come on
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acaciapines · 2 years
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AAAIAAUAWAUWUWAUOUAGH?!
DESS AND CHARA! DESS AND CHARA! DESS AND CHARA! FRIENDSHIP!!!
DESS! FUCK YEAH SHES FIGURING SHIT OUT
I SEND THIS IN THE HOPES OF RECEIVING A NICE LONG RANT ABT IT :DDDDD
DESS AND CHARA I WILL GIVE YOU A LONG RANT.
ok so we dont get chara's entire backstory in i know im not well and its not like. important to the plot so i dont have it all figured out BUT the basis of xir is that chara n frisk came from a like, super shitty family situation, and so when chara turned 18 xe took frisk and basically said 'fuck this we're out' and thus became a single parent at the age of 18 with literally no support whatsoever. frisk was like, 3-4 at this time.
anyways things went ok for a while up until oh no! frisk, who is now like, 6-8, falls into a dark world, and chara goes after them, and this dark world was like, sorta made by the both of them together? it basically reflects their fears, and chara's had a lot to do with hatred of xir parents for putting xir into this situation where xe had to grow up way too fast, and basically raise a kid with no idea how to do that, and so there was also some resentment towards frisk mixed in there, which chara never explicitly like, told frisk, but frisk was sorta able to pick up in the ways xe acted, at times.
but! they were both able to work together and sorta come to terms w things...chara does really really love frisk and wants whats best for them, and wanted to keep them sorta sheltered from everything they had to go through, yknow? but this dark world made them grow closer n have a much healthier relationship, and from there chara sorta bounced around on a few places set up specifically for people who had gone to dark works (this is the forum dess also found), mainly bc xe wanted help for frisk, and then when xe learned about other people who had fallen into dark worlds, particularly kids, xe wanted to help them, too--basically chara dislikes most humans and honestly just adults in general (xe has. a lot of self-hatred issues as well but xir getting better about that) but has always had a soft spot for kids, and since a lot of kids fall into dark worlds...thats where xe wanted to help.
so that's chara's story in this universe. and then xe met dess, and they at first weren't actually like...great friends? they were like, acquaintances, and chara helped dess bc thats what xe does, but when kris n noelle came to xir shop and chara learned that dess lowkey abandoned her siblings xe were like oh well fuck you actually. bc chara went through shit but even at xir lowest they never abandoned frisk. (some of this was also directing hatred at xirself for the resentment xe felt towards frisk onto another target so xe didn't have to deal w it <3)
but when dess started to go to therapy she reached back out to chara bc xe were sorta the only person she could think of that had gone through something similar, and chara and her actually became real friends bc chara sorta like...was more able to see that one dess was trying to do better now and two chara XIRSELF had for sure fucked up in the past, and if xe were able to give xirself the chance to try again, xe can give that to dess, too. and now they're buddies! asriel for sure meets chara at one point and is lowkey intimidated by xir bc xe has xir life together in a way asriel won't ever have kdngdfg.
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pwnyta · 7 months
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Apologies for my mistakes in advance.
Ok, so, I have a question for you.
Some time ago (honestly, it might have been kind of a long time ago) you’ve been talking about Genshin and how you prefer when the mc is not the point of view character but just someone who spectates from afar while other characters living their lives/stories. Tbh I’m not entirely sure that it was the exact thing that you said, but at the very least, that’s how I’ve remembered it xD
(Not trying to put words in your mouth btw, again, that’s just how I’ve remembered it)
So, my question is: do you not like MCs, like, in general? Like I know that it’s a strange question and that mc from Genshin feels more like a self-insert (I think they get better as the time goes on, maybe they’ll be their own characters by the end of the game lol), so it’s strange to question whether or not you like MCs just based on this one answer, but I was wondering about it so I decided to ask.
I’m not gonna lie, I am (kind of) a main character truther, they usually end up being my favorite characters, and if I don’t like mc, then I usually drop the work as a whole (because I don’t want to consume something that’s going to anger/annoy me, and bc MCs are usually a huge part of the story, I would rather just not interact with the story as a whole. Kind of unrelated, but my hatred for Bak*go forced me to drop mha bc he started to gain more and more screen time, and even though he is not THE main character, I still think that’s a good example).
Like. I hope you don’t think that I’m looking for troubles or anything, but as a person who likes MCs and as someone who would rather drop the work if I can’t emphasize with them/don’t like them/feel like they are NOT treated or behave like main characters, I’m just interested in the perspective of someone who doesn’t care for those characters/don’t like them in general.
Sorry if my message was confusing, I hope you got my point.
Well honestly I do tend to find MCs significantly less interesting than other characters. MCs tend to be the most generic character so that people can relate to them… thats just not how I read stories so it does nothing for me.
Like Naruto (& honestly the rest of his team) I found him (them) largely annoying and was always more interested in the stories of other characters with weirder powers (like Shino) & because I like more minor characters I Guess Im just more tolerable of their absence so long as the story is fun (Shino was probably THE most neglected of class but I stuck through Naruto until it wasnt fun anymore.)
But yeah especially in something like Genshin where Aether/Lumine are both the MC… and nothing really changes based on the character you pick... they arent a real character and what they do doesnt really matter because its just a stand in.
Like if you made QIQI the main character things would inherently change because she is her own character and the world would have to change based on what she might do. Her options to choose would be SO much different since shes a child and a zombie and w/e the world couldnt possibly be the same…. or CYNO would be interesting because hes got such a different temperament and also struggles with discrimination from being a desert dweller so there would even be more resistance... Hes basically got 2 personalities the quiet professional who keeps his head down and the goofy little meme boy who likes puns and YGO thats closer to who he really is and only shows to his friends (who hate it… OMG WINDBLUME IM STILL DEVASTATED LEARNING CYNO IS QUITE WHILE WORKING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE RACIST AND HE ONLY JOKES WITH HIS FRIENDS BUT HIS FRIENDS ARE ACTIVELY ANNOYED BY IT AND DONT WANT TO HEAR IT…. IM SICK. …anyway.)
You can interchange Lumine and Aether and nothing changes because theyre not a real characters with their own personality so I just cant give a shit about them. The only thing that makes them tolerable is that its pretty clear Aether is supposed to be the main character canonically.
That said I wouldnt completely dismiss an MC just for being an MC…. some are interesting or serviceable enough to be somewhat likable. I love Luffy from One Piece, I like Tsuna from KHR and I did like Deku from MHA at first though recently he just feels like he doesnt matter at all (which normally I wouldnt mind since I usually prefer side characters stories but cutting screen time of Deku and focusing on characters who genuinely dont fucking matter or are terribly written like Endeavor or the side villains whos stories are forced and/or dont fucking MEAN anything… its frustrating. As much as I cant STAND Bakugo I actually wouldnt mind him having more screen time because he IS important to the story (or should be)… same with Todoroki but Bakugo is just a FLACCID and stagnant character and Todo was fucking wasted as Hori somehow thought itd be a better idea to build his abusive POS father without him present… DONT UNZIP ME NONNY. IM SO MAD…).
UM…. yeah. I didnt take offense or anything to the question… I actually love having an excuse to bitch about silly shit like this. Fandom discourse used to be one of my favorite pastimes before people started pretending it was serious business because theyre too lazy to do any actual social justice.
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