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#and they're the only kpop group whose every song i like
beautifulpersonpeach · 2 months
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I've gotten the impression that, with hybe's recently debuted groups (boynextdoor and tws), they're trying to recenter themselves to a certain extent on Korea while balancing western appeal. I haven't been around for long enough to view the differences over time, but this has mainly been coming from the way they've been promoting, and I'm interested to see what they do with illit (whose debut trackless seems very short imo, but that's an aside). Idk if this is also why they released lsf's recent comeback on a Monday, though smart in particular is very Coachella. Tws' plot twist seems to have blown up in Korea but not very marketable in the west like nj's songs were. This all makes sense given bang pd's concerns about kpop and the need to establish a korean fan base, rather than shooting for the west right away which seems have been a contrary strategy. Do you see it the same way and are you expecting this strategy for illit? Ggs and bgs have been having different experiences with the korean gp lately so I'm not sure what they'll do. Luckily hybe's other ggs have pretty distinct vibes so it'll probably be easier to carve out their own lane within the company
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One thing: Bang PD has no influence whatsoever on what happens at ADOR aka NewJeans.
Also, I understand it’s tempting to think about HYBE this way given how the other Big4 companies operate and this is something that will be more clear as time goes on anyway, but the reality is that HYBE does not function like one company. It’s a collection of mid-sized companies that have their own mandates, but which share the same underlying infrastructure and resources. The only thing I really see them planning together is coordinating comebacks and debuts so there’s no egregious overlaps.
Meaning, if you’re looking for similarities, you’re probably better off comparing against the company’s own track record, i.e. TWS under Pledis is simply following the approach that worked for Seventeen and Nu’est at debut which was a focus on Korea first then international; ILLIT will likely follow Be:lift’s strategy for Enhypen, which was a Korea + SEA focus at debut, then Western appeal. BOYNEXTDOOR is Zico and KOZ’s first group, but given Zico’s influence is largest in Korea, it makes sense he’ll target building a Korean fanbase first. Source Music, just as with GFriend, focused Le Sserafim on Korea and Japan markets at debut before pushing internationally.
BigHit was supposed to have debuted Trainee A by this year and like BTS, they were gearing for more international appeal, but the project was scrapped and most of the members have moved on to be soloists or joined other agencies (JJ is now in SM).
What I’m trying to say is, I hear what you’re saying about Bang PD’s comments, but the patterns you’re looking for are better seen looking at what the companies have done before. Ideally, HYBE wants to strengthen their hold in every market, Korean and international. And you can see this in the companies they’ve already acquired that have decent penetration in one or the other, or both. Eventually, every k-pop company looks outside Korea for growth and that’s the end goal for all these groups, but the strategy of what is focused on first is best deduced by the track record of those companies so far. At least, in my opinion.
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barnesbabee · 1 year
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now be prepared, treasure was actually a 13 member group but yoobin left bcs of music conflicts (something like he didn't "vibe" with the genre) can't blame him tho but treasure pre chorus always hit tbh love the vocals😭
13?? treasure is like opposite of nct, nct adds members every year and treasure loses them 💀💀
but to be fair I 100% fuck with yoobin because if I listened to ikon, bigbang and winner and decided to join the company that made that kind of music and then they gave me fucking txt, nct dream and some other generic 4th gen boygroup garbage (sorry to those who like those types of songs I simply dislike them a whole lot) I would be PISSED off lmfao
especially cause in kpop if you audition for one of the big 3 you usually try to pick the one whose style matches you most, they played the boys hard I'm afraid, I feel so sorry
like the thing is they're genuinely talented from what I can see, and YG is no stranger to doing a soft concept here or there (ikon's first song was more lovey-dovey than anything but then they dropped that completely the rest of the discography up until love scenario) but doing all songs around that... like I don't doubt they were waiting for something more hip-hop based given that YG is home to the best kpop rappers in the industry, GD, T.O.P, B.I, Minho and Bobby that even won show me the money that famously hates idol rappers
I guess I'm just disappointed as well because although YG has many, many, many, flaws, something I always praised was how they stuck with a concept for their groups and they didn't follow trends, they always set their own. Only for them to follow trends the very next debut. Nice.
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bteezxyewriter12 · 2 years
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ARMY/ 1
Pairing- Yoongi x Named Reader
Word count- 3.7k
Includes- fluff
This is an indulgent fic I wrote. It's everything I wish would happen anytime I go to a BTS concert. Alas I am so upset it hasn't happened at any of the concerts I've been to yet. But one day....😂😆
*gif is from Google
Part 2. Part 3 Part 4
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J POV
I can't believe I'm so close to BTS
I was finally able to score a front row concert ticket in front of the small stage
It was like the Hunger Games trying to get that ticket for their Love Yourself tour
But I got it
I'm having a blast
BTS is my favorite group
They're the only kpop group I listen to so far
They're the best, so talented, hardworking and sweet
Plus they're all gorgeous
I've taken so many videos and pictures tonight
They really are incredible when they perform
They're so hyped and ARMY can't help but feed off their energy
So many members have come to where I am and I've taken amazing pictures
They're starting their next song and it's on the small stage
I sing along, waving my ARMY bomb and taking videos
Then he comes right in front of me, smiling at the crowd, dancing and having fun
My ultimate bias
Suga
Min, Yoongi
The love of my life
And he has no clue I exist
I want to call his name but I don't know if he'll hear me or even look
And even if he did, why would he look at me?
He wouldn't, not when there are so many gorgeous ARMYS around me
But if he does look then I can just see his face and that's enough for me
So, I take a breath and I scream, "YOONGI! YOONGI!", while waving my hand
He's never going to look
"YOONGI! YOONGI!"
He stops what he's doing and turns, looking right at me, his eyes locked with mine
Holy shit!
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Yoongi POV
I'm having a good time performing for ARMYS
I love them
They're amazing
They give me so much energy, make me want to perform better for them
Their love is amazing and I'm so glad the guys and I have it
I walk to a section of the small stage where I haven't been in awhile
I'm dancing and smiling at the ARMYS in front of me
Then I hear my name being called so clearly
Yoongi
Not Suga
Not Agust D
Not lil meow meow
Yoongi
I turn to the voice and look at the ARMY who called me
She's waving at me
Holy shit
I do double take and have to hold my mouth from dropping
She's fucking gorgeous
Oh my god
I've literally never seen someone as stunning as her
She smiles at me, waving and she yells, "I love you"
I'm still shocked and can't tear my gaze from her
She keeps smiling and it takes my breath away
"Yoongi", I hear in my ear
I jump, startled and glare at Jungkook
"What?", I snap
"You're part is coming up. Pay attention. What's wrong with you?"
The music comes back into my ears and shit he's right
It's almost my part
I have to leave where I am but I don't want to
I want to stay by this ARMY
But I can't
'You can always come back", I tell myself
I smile at the ARMY then move away
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J POV
Oh my god he smiled at me
Yoongi smiled at me
He looked at me and he didn't look away
My heart is exploding and I'm so happy
This is the best night of my life
Nothing can top this
My idol saw me and smiled at me
I could die happy right now
Well, after the concert
I didn't want Yoongi to leave but I know he has to go perform and see other ARMYS
At least I had that moment
At least he knows I exist
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During the next song, I'm singing and dancing when Yoongi comes back
I look up at him to see him staring at me
Oh my god, he's fucking gorgeous
Every ARMY whose met them is so right
They are so much more handsome and gorgeous in person
He waves at me and my heart stops
My mouth drops open
'Wave back you idiot!', my brain screams
My arm reconnects to my brain and I wave at him
"Hi", he mouths
"Hhhh...hi", I stutter
He smiles and I die inside
I smile back at him
He starts rapping his part but he's looking at me
I have no words
I don't know what I'm feeling besides pure euphoria
He stays in front of me for the rest of the song and the next song
When he raps again, I take out my phone and record him
After he's done, I stop the recording
When I look back up, he's crouching down and motioning to me
I look at him confused
He points to my phone
He wants my phone?
I hold it out to him and he takes it
What the fuck is happening?
He holds the phone up and takes a picture of himself
Holy shit I got a famous Yoongi selfie
He walks away with my phone and I watch him take pictures with the other members
They all do silly faces and smile
I can't believe this
"You're so lucky", the ARMY next to me says
"Yeah seriously. I think he likes you", the one to my left says
Likes me?
No way
I'm nobody
I'm not even that pretty
No way he'd like me out of all people
He has millions of girls, idols and ARMYS who he could have, why would he want me?
"I don't think so. I think he just wants to be silly", I answer
"Oh please, he stared at you the whole time he was here. It's like he was rapping to you"
It did feel that way but I'm not letting that get to my head
"Nah. Besides the other guys have taken ARMYS phones before to take pictures and videos. I guess it's just Yoongi's turn"
"Girl take it for what it is. He likes you. You should be happy"
I don't know what to say so I don't say anything
I turn back to the stage and see that the guys are leaving the stage.
Yoongi leaves with my phone
Uh ok then
I mean I don't care but why does he want my phone?
The concert is only half over so I'm guessing he'll give it back eventually
Whatever he could do whatever he wants with it
I'm not complaining
A video on the screens starts and I turn my attention to it, waiting for BTS to come back on stage
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Yoongi POV
I have her phone
I don't know why I took it
No, I do know why I took it
I want to put my number in her phone
What the fuck am I doing?
What's come over me?
I see millions of ARMYS all the time- at concerts, at performances, events and fan signs
But I never felt anything like I'm feeling now from seeing her
I don't even know what it is I'm feeling
I like her
I know that for sure
And I want to know her
Talk to her
Spend time with her
Like I said what the fuck am I doing?
Hobi or Tae are the ones mostly likely to do this shit
Not me
But I know I'm going to regret it if I don't try to get to know her
I don't know why I feel like that or why that feeling is so strong but I'm going to follow it
I don't want to regret anything
I have time
Jimin and Jin are doing their solos and then the vocal line is doing 'The Truth Untold"
Her phone doesn't have a password or lock on it
When I turn it back on, my eyes widen at the wallpaper
It's me
A picture of me during a performance, rapping in the mic
Why am I happy about that?
I go to her contacts
It's in English
She doesn't speak Korean?
She may not, she looks American
But she could be Korean
If she was born here
I don't know but I hope I can spend time with her to find out
I type in my name, phone number and save it
Then I go find Namjoon
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"What?", he asks incredously
"Just write it so I can copy it"
"Yoongi what the hell are you doing?", he asked
"I don't know", I answer honestly, "I just saw her and I feel like I need to get to know her"
"Yoongi, she's an ARMY at a concert. You don't know her."
"I know Namjoon. I can't explain it"
"This is so not like you", he comments
"I know. But it is me doing it. So can you just write out what I'm asking?"
He sighs, "Fine"
"Do we have anymore tickets for the fan sign tomorrow?"
"You're going to give her one of those?"
I nod, "Yes"
"I don't know. Go ask the manager who's here"
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I'm so nervous
I'm standing by the stage getting ready for 'Tear'
I have pockets so I have the girl's phone with the note I wrote and the ticket to the fanmeet
The manager managed to get another ticket and gave it to me
I wrote the note, copying Namjoon's
Now I just have to give it to her
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J POV
Namjoon, Hobi and Yoongi come on the stage
The music for Tear starts
I love this song!
They spread out and Yoongi comes over to me
He's seriously going to kill me
He pulls something from his pocket then crouches down
He looks right at me, smiles and reaches out holding something
He nods at me to take it, so I do
Then he stands back up just in time for his first part
I look down at what he gave me
It's an envelope
Opening it, I see my phone in it
With paper too
I put my phone in my pocket then pull out the papers
There's a note on top of another piece of paper
I glance up at the stage
Yoongi is rapping his part but his eyes keep darting to me
Looking back at the note, I read it
And almost pass out
Hi. This ticket is for tomorrow's fan meet. Please come. My number is in your phone. Text me please.
Min, Yoongi
Holy shit, no way
I look at the other paper
Oh my god it is a ticket for tomorrow's fan meet
Then does that mean...
I pull my phone back out, going into my contacts
I scroll through it and holy fuck
It's there
He put it under "Yoongi Min"
I click on the contact and there really is a phone number there
My mouth drops
I look up at the stage, to see him standing by me again, watching me
I close my mouth and swallow
Is this really happening?
Am I dreaming?
His eyes glance down to my hand, to the ticket, then back to me
He raises his eyebrow
Is he....asking me if I'm gonna go?
I look at the ticket then back at him
I nod and he smiles at me
I can't fucking breathe
How is this happening?
Min, Yoongi from BTS wants me to come to a fan meet?
He put his number in my phonem
What fucking planet am I on right now?
I can't believe this
I really can't
I put the note and ticket in the envelope and in my bag
I look up, realizing I missed the whole song
The guys are all on stage while the music for Mic Drop starts
I can't tear my eyes away from Yoongi
I tried to watch the other guys during the whole concert when they did group songs
I love all the guys and I enjoy watching them all dance and perform
But now, I can't look away from Yoongi
My eyes follow him everywhere
And I'm so fucking shocked when I see him glancing at me over and over
When the song finishes, they all go off the stage
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The guys just finished their little speeches they give
They're so sweet
Yoongi glanced in my area while he was talking and saying that he's happy to be here with us
I'm not stupid enough to think he's talking about me
He loves all ARMYS
We all make him happy
They sing a few more songs, then the concert is over
The guys are walking all over the stage, waving at ARMYS and playing with their phones and selfie sticks
Yoongi is on the other side of the small stage, waving at ARMYS
Tae comes over to my section and I take pictures of him
He waves and I wave back
Hobi comes over, with a cell phone taking pictures of us
Then he crouches down, puts the phone in my face and takes a picture.
What the hell?
Hobi looks at me and points to his smile
He wants me to smile
Uh sure I guess so
I smile and he takes another picture
He gives me a thumbs up and walks away
I'm so confused
"Jeez all the guys like you", one girl next to me says
"Uh no I don't think so"
"Are you kidding? J-Hope just took a close up of you. V waved at you.
And Suga was fawning over you the whole time. He kept looking at you. And he gave you something."
She sounds jealous
I mean I would be too but I didn't do anything
"And here he comes again"
I glance up to see Yoongi walking over
Hobi stops him and hands him the phone he took my picture on
Yoongi takes it, putting it in his pocket
It's his phone?
Oh my god
Yoongi waves at all the ARMYS at my section
Then he looks at me
He gives me a finger heart and a to-die for smile
I feel a huge smile burst on my face
He nods, then walks away
This has been the best freaking night of my life
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Yoongi POV
I stare at my phone intently willing it to ring
I'm waiting for the girl to text me
I want her too so much
I don't have her number
I know I could of used her phone to call my cell but I don't want to be creepy
"Yoongi what the hell was up with you tonight?", Jungkook asks as he sits down
The rest of the guys come into the living room
"What are you talking about?", I play it off
"You were distracted and almost missed your part so many times.", Jimin answers
"It's because of the girl", Namjoon says
"What girl?", Jin asks
"Nothing", I say
"The girl Yoongi saw in the crowd. He has a thing for her. He took her phone."
"Namjoon..", I warn
He just looks at me and rolls his eyes
I'm going to murder him
"He put his number in her phone and asked me to write a note so he could copy it. Then he got one of the managers to get her a ticket for tomorrow's fan meet so he can see her again"
"What the fuck Namjoon?", I yell
"Oh get over it.", he snaps
"Was that the girl Hobi took a picture of?", Tae asks
"Yeah", Hobi joins in, "He asked me to take a picture of her. So I took a lot."
"That girl was hot", Tae answers
"What?", I snap, "You noticed her?"
Tae snorts, "Of course I noticed her. She was the only white girl in her section and she was in the first row"
"She's really beautiful Yoongi. I can see why you got distracted", Hobi tells me
I just glare at him
"Ok I need to see a picture of this girl", Jin announces
"Yeah really", Jimin agrees
"Why?", I growl
"Because she has to be drop dead gorgeous for you of all people to be distracted by her", Jin shrugs
"No. You can see her tomorrow at the fan meet."
"Seriously? No one is going to take her away from you Yoongi", Jin replies
"I will", Tae smirks
"Fuck off"
"Ooo look, he likes her a lot or he wouldn't have reacted like that", Jimin laughs
I look at Namjoon, "They're making fun of me. Happy now?"
"Not particularly", he shrugs
I'm about to tell him off but then my phone buzzes
I look down and it's a text from a number I don't know
"Is this uh Suga? From BTS?"
It's her
She actually texted me
In Korean too
"Yes this is Yoongi"
"Oh hi. I'm the girl from the concert tonight. You took my phone and put your number in it?"
"Who is it?", Jungkook asks
"None of your business", I snap
"It's her. The girl! She texted him!", Jimin squeals
I need to leave before I kill them all
I stand up, starting to walk away
"Where are you going?", Namjoon asks
"Away from you all"
"Aww Yoongi wants to be alone when he talks to his new girlfriend", Jungkook teases
"Shut up!"
I hear them cracking jokes and laughing as I walk to my room
"Yes I remember you", I type and send
I get to my room, close the door and sit on my bed
"I don't mean to sound rude or anything but how do I know it's really you?"
I didn't think of that
I guess she's right to second guess me
After all what idol has ever put their number in a fan's phone?
She could be thinking this is a fake number
"I could send you a picture?"
"Yeah but you can just download any picture of Suga and send it to me"
Uh ok, I didn't think of that either
I mean there's no real way for her to know unless I do a video call with her
"I can call you through FaceTime"
I wait a few minutes for her to answer
"I uh don't have FaceTime. I don't have an iPhone."
"I can do a video call on anything else you want. Just tell me and I'll download the app for it"
She tells me to just use Google's app
Which I have already
"I'm calling you", I text
I call her and it rings
I'm so fucking nervous
Why am I nervous?
She's just a girl
Yeah right
She picks up and her beautiful face fills my screen
"Hi", I breathe
"Holy shit", she gasps, "It is you"
"Yeah it's me", I repeat, noticing she's speaking Korean
Really well
Say something idiot
"Uh what's your name?", I ask
"Oh right. Uh Joanne. It's Kang, Joanne"
Kang?
But she's not Korean
She's not even Asian
I guess I'll have to ask her about that another time
If she agrees to talk to me again
"You're name is pretty", I say blushing
"Oh uh thank you", she answers
'Talk', I yell at myself
"So uh did you have fun tonight?"
She smiles
God it's stunning
"Yeah. I love you guys. I've been to every tour you've had but this was the first time I was able to get a ticket right in the front"
"You came to every tour?"
"Yeah from when you guys first started. I was there at your debut showcase too. I'm an O.G. ARMY", she says proudly
"Wow, thank you for your support"
She was there from the beginning with us
That means a lot
"Of course. You guys are awesome and so hardworking for us.", she smiles
Mother of god her smile is fucking gorgeous
I feel like I can't breathe
A silence falls and I don't know what to say
She's just looking at me then moves her eyes away, but then looks back at me
I can't tear my eyes away from her
'Talk', I scream at myself
"So you're uh coming tomorrow?", I ask
"Yeah of course. But uh...why did you give me a ticket? You could of gave it to anyone. Why me?"
Shit what do I say?
That she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen and I want to know her?
No
"Uh I....you look really nice and I wanted to meet you", I answer lamely
God I sound like a dork
"You uh don't have to come if you dont want to", I say
I didn't want to say that but I'm not going to force her to come
"Are you crazy? Of course I want to come meet you. That's like a dream come true", she exclaims
A dream come true?
Seriously?
Her eyes widen and she splutters, "I mean...meeting you and all of BTS...you know.....shit"
She puts her hand over her face in embarassment
She's so fucking cute
"No yeah I get what you mean", I answer, trying to make her feel better, "I feel the same way when I meet other celebrities I really like"
I smile at her
She just stares at me, biting her lower lip absentmindley.
Fuck me, that's so hot
I stare back at her until she breaks eye contact
"I uh don't want to take up much of your time. You gotta be so tired after the concert."
I am but I don't want to stop talking to her
But I don't want to creep her out either
And I'll see her tomorrow
"Oh yeah. And I have to get up early tomorrow for the fan meet."
"You do? Isn't it at like 3?", she asks
"No yeah for ARMYS. But we have to get ready and everything."
"Oh right. God I'm so dumb", she mutters
"No you're not. You just don't have to think about that, that's all. It's ok", I assure her
"I guess"
Fuck, I don't want her to feel bad
"So I'll see you tomorrow?"
I don't know why but I need more confirmation
I already like her a lot and I only spoke to her for fifteen minutes
What is wrong with me?
"Yeah Suga, definitely", she confirms
"Yoongi", I say automatically, "Call me Yoongi. Please."
Surprise fills her face
"Oh uh ok. Yoongi", she says
Shit, I like hearing her say my name
I'm a fucking goner
I already know I'm going to fall in love with her
I don't know how I know but it's such an overwhelming feeling that I have
It's definitely going to happen
I hope she can love me too
"Ok", I repeat
"I'll see you tomorrow", she repeats too, "Good night Yoongi"
"Good night Joanne"
She blushes, smiling, then hangs up
I lay back on my bed, staring at the ceiling, a huge dorky smile on my face
I can't wait until tomorrow
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thesecretbits · 2 years
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how'd you get into skz?
This got long because I get talkative when it comes to Stray Kids, so under a cut it goes.
Easy showed up on one of my Spotify playlists and I really liked it. So I looked the group up on Youtube and watched the God's Menu. And it was amazing. I then fell into the very deep rabbit hole of SKZ content because I had to know who this group was. The more I learned about them as a group and the more I listened to their music, the more I liked them. And then one day, I just knew they were going to be my favorite group ever.
I was not wrong.
I'm not into a lot of groups. There's groups whose music I like, but I just don't always feel the connection to a group to get much past liking the music. I've only been attached to one other group and that was Got7 and it took a while for that to happen.
It was not like that with Stray Kids. There was something about them that hooked me, from the beginning. The music was really good, different than a lot of the stuff I was hearing. Their bond was really tight, different in a lot of ways from other groups I'd seen. The fact that Chan picked the members himself, that they had to prove themselves with music they made themselves, that every single member was involved in the creation of that music, was just fascinating to me.
That's not how things work in kpop. The company put all this time and money into training these kids and they control everything. Even if you're writing your own music or contributing to the lyrics of your songs, chances are really good that your title tracks and the songs that get promoted are provided by the company (there are exceptions, of course, but very few). Because the company made you a group and the company is in charge of your image. It changes a bit the longer you're a group, the grip the company has on you loosens a bit and you're allowed a little more creative freedom, if you so choose, but it's mostly you sound the way the company wants you to sound, you sing what the company wants you to sing. But that was not the case with Stray Kids.
I loved that they were in complete creative control of their music, and how that made them so very sure of their identity as a group. Stray Kids know who they are musically because they are in charge of every aspect of their work. The company lets them do what they do and make the music they want to make. That faith in them has been rewarded.
And there's just something about looking at a track list for a Stray Kids album and seeing 3RACHA all over it, lyrics and composing and arranging. There's something about seeing unit songs, and all the other members names are there as well.
I just really love this group. More than I've ever loved a group before. And they have truly made it very difficult for me to like any other group, because no one else is giving me what Stray Kids gives me. They're total package. And that's why they're my group.
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bisexualhobi · 2 years
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Your k-army Asker who aid BTS is estranged ex-husband who hasn't satisfied you in years but now popping their head up... too true. There are so many exciting artists in Korea, and so many Kpop groups whose control and influence over their own work far exceeds BTS... it's hard to imagine what keeps people so stuck. For one thing, why does it seem like BTS aren't in charge of the songs that go on their own albums yet? It always seems like someone else is pulling the strings... or do I have that wrong?
hmm I kinda disagree with the last part! bts has some of the biggest artistic input in their music in the kpop industry. remember that now the "trend" and what makes music "superior" in kpop stans eyes is if the idols are self produced and compose and write their own songs. but bts has done it for a long while and even though in their recent music they have very little input it used to be the norm for most of the members to get credited in almost every single song.
are they completely self produced? no, of course they're not. do they have a final say in every album they put out? no, despite what hybe wants you to think and the image of bts the wanna sell you the members are employees and what the production director says goes. that's why they had very little say in dynabutter and the plan happened despite their doubts and protests. that's why on BE they marketed it as a self made album and later it was found out that the members had to compete between each other to submit songs to the label and a lot of them weren't picked.
are they the only group that does this thing where they're marketed as self made and full of talented producers? yes to this degree. armys think all of the bts members have all of the creative independence and write all of their songs all the time. that's not the case, and it's only a result of extensive hard and soft marketing that has the fandom thinking that. they are, however, one of the most creatively involved groups in their own music, compared to the industry standard. it's still less substantial than what the fandom thinks though
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xiaoxiongmaos · 3 years
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those iconic moments are like ICONIC i think i've seen all of them except for the eunsang one. my favourite iconic moments and the first ones that popped into my head are soobin's "bye guys hi ladies muah" and sunghoon's tiktok video that went viral recently. those moments live in my head rent free. i literally cannot get them out of my head.
and, yeah the cgi in monster was very startling and i have a physical reaction every time i see it.
i'm so sorry that she's left and her favourite group disbanded 😕 and i don't take any offence either!! i know i'm not her because this is my first time writing publicly on tumblr, and none of my favourite groups have disbanded so far.
ooo!!! idk if it's because i don't understand giffiing or because the giffing i see on my dash is so high quality, but if there were a tumblr hierarchy i think giffers should be on top, besides graphics creators and artists. they're constantly keeping up with new content, and giffing all of it in HD (sometimes 4k) with good colouring (even when the original doesn't have good colouring) and i'm just like WOW. i know i could never do it and i respect the grind fr. so, i respect you for doing that, making graphics, AND making fanart at the same time. speaking of fanart, i saw your recent felix one and i am BLOWN away. like, how?? knowing that your canvas was once empty and you managed to produce THAT out of it is literally like... my mind is blown.
ooo yes, i'm picky with who i read too. when it comes to a little read here & there, the quality of the writing doesn't matter much to me. but when it comes to reading longer fics, there are only a few writers who can captivate my attention for THAT long, you know? please don't apologise for studying!! i've been busy myself these days (which is why this is SUPER late), so i completely understand.
and tysm!! your reassurances have definitely broken me out of my shell, and i'm more than ready for the reveal soon! thank you SO much for the reccs! i've noted them down so i will definitely listen to them sometime soon.
today's mission was to give me a playlist, but you've already given me a playlist of recs so now all we have to do is wait for monday! sorry for all of this, but i'm super excited for the reveal! - 🗝 anon
Hello anon, hope you’re doing good!
Ah, how could I forget that… it’s really such a cute and funny vid to watch! Sunghoon’s tiktok? I don’t recall seeing any of his recent ones so I’ll check it out!
Ooh yeah the continuous wait for frames to finish rendering; that’s a pain. But it’s overshadowed by the nice tags people leave after reblogging or some sweet asks; really makes it worth it. Thank you so much, that’s legitimately so sweet of you to say <3 it took a while because it was the first time in a while but seeing the positive response makes my heart happy!
I prefer series over drabbles so I usually have to look for writers whose diction I vibe with and I have found three (used to be a bit more but unfortunately, quite a few left) that are such! I also am kinda selective about genres I read, mostly it’s angst/thrillers/crime but a little slice of life or fantasy here and there doesn’t hurt. I generally don’t like really fluffy or romantic ones— I’m the kind of person who wants the plot to be interesting and read more of what’s happening outside of someone’s love life; same with movies and dramas! Oh and I avoid nsfw like the plague. If you would like to check them out: @/maatryoshkaa (her serial killer au is amazing, I kid you not! Really made me fall in love with her kdrama-esque writing and she’s got a cute highschool series going on for the soft crowd), @/yeonjuncore (one of the most eloquent writers ever; pick up any piece from her and you won’t stop until you’ve finished it —and sometimes are left yearning for more— she has nsfw stuff but was kind enough to help me blacklist tags for them! I’d recommend checking out the stuff she wrote for a halloween special last year, it has some real gold hidden in the nooks and crannies) & @/angelictaehyun (I only recent started reading her stuff and was done with almost all of her Taehyun fics in the span of a day. Her wording has a prim and proper feel to it, but it’s also not awkwardly professional? She writes shorter stuff, at least compared to what I’m used to, but most of her works are cute and really keep your emotions engaged).
No problem! Is it okay if I still make a playlist for you? I’m more of a feel-good, summery and sweet songs kinda person generally —but I like a ton of different genres too haha— so that’s kinda the theme of the playlist (I sprinkled in a couple of non-kpop/kdrama tracks too)!
The feeling’s mutual; I’m really excited to meet you off anon too~ hope you have a lovely day and that you’re doing well!
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jaeyooniverse · 3 years
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Fantasy friend here ❤️ hope you're doing alright!
I was working on a personal project 😊 I like to write stories and I've been trying to get some creative work done every day (or at least most days sfdhsjgfshsg)
Ah I'm '98 line! Foiled by the progression of time 😔 but thank you, you seem like a really fun person too and I bet being your sibling would be super cool 💖
I'll definitely keep your recommendations in mind when I'm next choosing what album to listen through! Usually I start considering myself "a fan" of a group once I've seen all their music videos and listened to enough b-sides to make sure I like their music beyond just the title tracks, and have also gotten kind of familiar with the members' personalities - I feel like in k-pop there tends to be so much emphasis placed on knowing about the members that that aspect seems almost as important as the music/performance side of things, which is an interesting phenomenon, but I do think the music is the main draw of a group.
Tbh every Fantasy I know is just constantly 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 when it comes to Youngbin 😂 there's just something so endearing about him... all the members seem like super cool people though, they all have their own special charms! And yeah I think Chani would be really fun to hang out with - there are some idols who I look at and go "I want to be their friend" and at least half of SF9 is on that list lmao
Yeah with less songs I guess you have to stick with a theme, at least to a certain degree. A lot of it depends on the length of the album I think, like with 7 songs you have room for more variety than you would with 4 - that's one reason I like longer albums, there's just more space to include different types of tracks 😌 (except rpm because that album is so well put together!!! there's no need to add on to something that's already perfect)
That's fair lol, I like a wide variety of concepts as well - I love when there are some rock/punk elements added into the music so if they experimented with that I think it would be really cool, and I'd like to see them try a softer concept because I feel like they're versatile enough to pull it off, but I'm not going to nitpick if they decide to just keep doing what they're doing 😄
What would you say your favorite friendship in SF9 is? Are there any members you would like to see work together on a side-project song?
hiii ^^
oh nice! and that sounds like a nice little goal to have everyday. what do you like writing about?
aww man 😭 but hey that means you can have an big sis now 😁😁
that makes sense! i don't think there's any group i stan that i havent seen all the mvs for at least lol but yeah honestly depending on how much music a group has out it could take a while before you listen to everything, and it's not like you have to hear everything to be able to say you like someones music. I dont really get people who say they stan a group but then don't like most of the groups music?? how does that work skhsksh but yeah i think that bridge between casual listening & stanning is getting to know the members. it is an interesting thing, how much the kpop stanning experience revolves around the members being relatable, entertaining, and accessible in some way. maybe thats how it is stanning other music artists too I wouldn't really know since I've only really stanned kpop groups 😅
youngbin is sooo endearing and you see it in pretty much all his interactions with the members and ugh the way he'll smile at them I just 🥺🥺🥺🥺
lolll same I would pretty much hang out with all of them! tho i feel like some members i would be really awkward with if it was just the two of us? 💀💀 unsurprisingly i think the member i'd wanna hang out with the most is jaeyoon skgsksh and youngbin :D
yes exactly my thoughts! like if you have such a short album and the songs don't fit some sort of concept/theme/vibe it just feels like you took a bunch of songs and threw them together, which i dont think is how albums should be.
oohh yes that would be cool to hear! i hope they explore those genres, then! oooh I am curious to see how sf9 would do a soft concept. i feel like the softest thing theyve done was probably for the so beautiful mv and that was so long ago 😂
oohh favorite friendship theres so many 😭 my first thought was youngbin & jaeyoon skgsksh i love them 🥺 but also hwiyoung & chani, hwiyoung & jaeyoon, and inseong & dawon ! oh and taeyang & hwi, taeyang & jaeyoon... there's so many pairings whose interactions i love it's hard to choose lolll do you have a favorite?
i was actually just thinking about this last night! jaeyoon and zuho have already blessed us several times but I kinda want zuho to make a track with dawon 😁😁 what about you?
also i meant to ask, what time zone are you in? i'm in EST 😙
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thesecretbits · 3 years
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What groups don't you like then?
It's not that I don't like groups. I don't know enough about other groups to dislike them. There are groups whose music I can't get into. But music is diverse and subjective. It's very hard not to like at least one song in a group's discography, even if you're not into that group's music as a whole.
Since I'm a Stay, I'll talk about Stray Kids. SKZ has a very diverse catalog of music. Saying all of their music is bad is just stupid because there's so many different kinds of music they've released. Maybe you don't like songs like God's Menu or Thunderous, but they're always songs like Another Day or Secret Secret or Sunshine or Ex, songs that are different from their most popular songs.
SKZ performed at an awards show and performed Thunderous, Red Lights, Gone Away, and Surfin', four completely different songs, all from the same group, and people will still say that all of SKZ's music sounds the same. It doesn't, and the fact that people say that means they've only listened to certain songs, declared them unlikable, and then decided that that's the only kind of music they make. No group only makes one kind of music. This is especially true for groups that have some creative control of their music. Even more so for the rare group that has complete creative control of their music with barely any company involvement in the way that music is written and produced.
I don't have the time to be into multiple groups. There are people who can and that's good for them. A group has to really intrigue me to interest me enough to get into the group and not just the music. So far, only 2 groups have ever done that in the 6 years I've been listening to kpop. However, there are plenty of songs by multiple groups that I like. There are also groups whose music does not spark anything in me, but I can still find a song or two of that group that I like, because again, no group's music is all the same.
There are also plenty of groups whose music I've never listened to before and groups whose music I will probably never listen to. And it's not because I don't like them, because again, don't know enough to not like them, it's just that there are so many kpop groups and I just don't have time to listen to every single one of them.
All of this boils down to, I can't tell you what groups I don't like because there is no one group I don't like. I could tell you which group's music as a whole I'm not into, but there are still songs from those groups that I do like. The point is, listen to what you want, and if there are groups whose music you don't like, just don't listen to them and move on.
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