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spaceorphan18 · 1 year
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Has the alleged biphobia of Kurt in BIOTA always been an issue, or is it a recent upset for fandom ? I can see what the writers were intending - Kurt’s fear he’d lose Blaine to Rachel, and that’s why he said what he said. And Blaine’s retort that he’d say bye but wouldn’t want to upset Kurt was the writers trying to joke.
But it’s become the number one criticism of Kurt? And like so much in the show that maybe wasn’t an issue in 2010 is now an issue?
I mean, yes and no. I think the younger audience coming to it is less tolerant of this kind of stuff, and can be more harsh?
[I also think - and I'm not pinning this on one demographic - that people tend to see things in black and white, and weaponize mistakes to use as reasons to not like a thing.]
To put in perspective -- I am way younger than Ryan Murphy, but when I first saw this scene it made sense to me as someone who grew up in a time period when being gay was something you did not talk about, and a majority of people of people did not tolerate it. Like, at all.
Case in point - I have an old, high school friend who is gay. He came out in college as bisexual. He used bisexual as a way to kind of test the waters to see how those around him would react. Later, he fully came out as gay. It was a thing that happened, and a thing that happened way before society became much more comfortable with people in the LGBT community.
Look - I'm not saying that Kurt is in the right here -- he's not. He should not be dismissive of Blaine's sexuality exploration. But his words come from the fear, yes, Blaine would leave Kurt as a romantic possibility for Rachel. It is not indicative of how Kurt feels about bisexuals but about how he feels threatened of losing his one hope of an actual romance. And even though this script is credited to Ian Brennan, I have no doubt that Ryan Murphy, as an older gay man, had a big hand in this storyline.
I do know that Kurt had his critics back then. But I also think it's another way people can latch onto Kurt (or the show) being bad at being queer. Or another instance of pointing at Glee's biphobia. Now, look, I'm not saying Glee wasn't biphobic, because there are some really wretched instances of it, the worst being the fact that Brittany was never allowed to openly identify as such, but this is a Kurt's being terrible because of a personal thing. Not Kurt is terrible because he's biphobic.
And, idk Nonny, some people just like to take any reason to be mad on the internet.
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megablade · 2 years
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About your glee ask: yeah the whole show was aggressively biphobic. On top of Kurts whole debacle with Blaine in the Lima Bean, Santana even had a whole scene where she trashed on bi people and wanted a girlfriend who she didn’t have to worry about “straying for dick” (i love her character, but you gotta criticize your favs). Not even to mention how the writers wouldn’t even let brittney call herself bisexual (there’s maybe one line when she says that).
I recognize how glee has made such an impact on queer culture (and as a lesbian, santanas character was truly monumental for me and many other people), but it got so many things wrong. So many
the singular one (1) silver lining in all of that was when blaine said farewell by saying "i would say bye, but i wouldn't want to make you angry" LOL had me crying but yeah overall it was Not Great
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angelhummel · 2 years
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rewatching that glee vid here are some of my favorite quotes
Will Schuester the Spanish teacher arrives at William McKinley high school in his shitmobile
This is a message directly for Will Schuester. *silence* That is all
Bye glee club I’m resigning bc I need to be an accountant to make money for my child bc my teacher’s salary of two dollars per year is simply not enough
Mike, Matt, and Puck choose the glee club, and Finn chooses the football team bc he flopped
I’m going to give Tina the award for emo fashion slay bc on rewatch, she’s still demolishing the fashion game while everyone else is serving milk
Let me postpone my wedding for a few hours so i can take these little rats to sectionals
Rachel meets Jesse St James, who is played by Jonathan Groff who’s Kristoff in Frozen. The first of TWO Frozen girlies introduced in this episode
After the frighteningly sudden flop aura of episode 14...
All of the boys except for Kurt are like “booo this is so boring” uh but at the end of the day who got the clicks views and engagement? The girls. And who fell off the charts? The boys
One thing about Joey? He’s gonna run
The fact that all it took was empty christmas light boxes and red chantilly lace to know they were doing Gaga. Yeah. See when you’re a legend, these things are just common knowledge 
Karofsky and Azimio push Kurt and Tina into the lockers for dressing up. Did somebody say. assault?
Meanwhile the boys are like “boo lady gaga boo we can’t sing lady gaga, lady gaga’s for girls” first of all shut the fuck up
Finn loses it and uses the F slur, and I’m not talking about “flop”
The scenes of Quinn yelling in the hospital while giving birth cut in between clips of Vocal Adrenaline singing Bohemian Rhapsody and it’s all synced up? Like I’m sorry, but you have to be a little bit of a genius to think of something like that
Honestly less schoolwork happens in Glee than in Euphoria and I’m pretty sure Maddy Perez doesn’t even own a pen
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I’m kind of Sam Evans coded if you think about it
We also have Rachel performing Baby One More Time and she unfortunately mega slays. And I’m saying “unfortunately” bc minutes before, she tells Finn that she doesn’t want him to become popular again bc she wants to be the only thing that makes him feel good
Episode four we have a Santana and Mercedes duet mega slay supreme
Episodes six is a little bit of a collapse
Kurt confronts Karofsky and Karofsky grabs Kurt and forcibly kisses him. Wooow, we love the repressed sexual orientation to homophobic bully pipeline. Someone call Paige McCullers and Alison Dilaurentis
There’s also a lot of Karofsky plot and I’m just like “I don’t care. I don’t want to see a redemption arc for this character”
We also find out Will sings to sick kids in the hospital. Try as I might I just can’t spin that as a negative. And I did try
I will be punishing Artie for rapping too much. He’s hit the threshold of Schuester
She writes a song called My Headband and it’s an instant classic
Kurt goes clown mode and tells Blaine bisexuality isn’t real. Kurt flopped I’m afraid
Karofsky apologizes to Kurt for being basically the worst person in the milky way and probably in alpha centauri as well
Who is voted prom queen? Kurt. But not in a yas slay kind of way
Finn flopped disastrously again but this time it was on a national stage
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Everyone’s like “quinn this isnt you quinn naur” but the thing is. she slayed
Mercedes convinces Santana and Brittany to join the Troubletones. And they are already on explosive mega slay mode with only four members. They sing Candyman and it’s an Event
My notes for episode five are basically “why does Blaine dress like he’s 50 years old”
Kurt Blaine and Sebastian go to a gay bar and they run into Dave Karofsky. Who has changed schools and accepted himself so he’s no longer the world’s most homophobic super villain 
Next we have Santana and the squad singing a very topical version of I Kissed A Girl
Kurt and Sebastian are having more beef and Kurt says “I don’t like your obnoxious CW hair” which is actually so wild bc Grant Gustin ends up playing The Flash on CW’s The Flash. So he literally does have CW hair. It was a prophetic read
Oh my god also the fact that Santana and Mercedes were gone from the club, Rachel was suspended, and Kurt STILL didn’t get a solo performance at a competition. It’s so bad for him right now!
Rachel accepts Finn’s proposal. ... Nobody moved. Nobody clicked. Nobody viewed. Nobody engaged. Well-
In episode 13 we meet Rachel’s dads, Hiram and Leroy. Yes that’s Jeff Goldblum
The football team at Karofsky’s new school finds out he’s gay and he tries to S word. And then like five minutes later it’s fucking regionals! The way that Glee goes from 0 to 100 to 0 to 90 to 30 to 0 to 55 to 0 in the space of like five minutes. Can we all just calm down??
In episode 15 Quinn’s in a wheelchair but more importantly Sugar has a really good outfit. Kurt also has a leather Gucci tie
Merslaydes
Rachel is in shambles. This is the scene of the historically important “pleek”
anyway go watch the video if you haven’t yet xx we need more good glee content
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bipunkharrington · 4 years
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I haven't watched Glee in a long time, and never saw the episodes with Elliott and Dani in them but I have a question for the fandom
To set the scene, I'm bisexual, and have an obsession with fanfics were characters I identify with come to terms with their bisexuality, regardless of their canon sexuality. I'm not saying that I genuinely thing Kurt (canon gay man) or Dani (canon gay woman - as far as I'm aware) are bi, but would anybody read a story in which they both are? (Elliott would also feature in this and be bi too, but I don't think he technically has a canon sexuality anyway)
My ideas are still forming at the moment but the two likely possibilities are a story where the three of them date as a 'triad' or a story with 'Kelliott' but in which Dani has a girlfriend who is also bi, and the four of them go on couple dates and hook up as a group sometimes.
I also have an unhealthy obsession with the idea of 'One Three Hill' being called 'Ain't No Lie' as a tongue in cheek reference to the N'Sync song 'Bye Bye Bye' 😂
In whatever format, the main theme of the story would be Elliott and Dani being awesome supportive friends who help Kurt come to terms with the fact that his sexuality is more fluid than he thought, and also the three of them mixing it up between sappy domesticity and hot sex with him because visually the three of them kill it together 😍
This ramble is essentially a mic check to see if the Glee fandom still exists out there, and if so is there any desire for this kinda thing?
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audikatia · 4 years
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2.14 Blame It on the Alcohol
Rating: 3/5. As per usual, this would have been ranked higher if not for Schue’s plot line
Best Song: Tik Tok.
Memorable Quote: “Hair of the dog that done bit your ass.” -Artie
General Notes:
“Ke-dollar sign-ha” is literally how I pronounce Ke$ha most of the time, all because of this episode nine fucking years ago. Glee has really ruined me.
The phone calls are a hidden gem in this series. I kind of wish they had been utilized more, but I also worry they would have been ruined if done more frequently.
Honestly, there’s no way Rachel wouldn’t have included Kurt to begin with, but it’s so cute and brotherly that they wrote it so that Kurt was blackmailing Finn over dumb computer stuff. Also it’s adorable that Kurt just sort of brings Blaine everywhere and Blaine just goes with it.
The little quiver in Rachel’s voice when she yells “Let’s party!” is borderline hysterical
Darren’s curls give me life
Angry!Quinn also gives me life.
Santana’s behavior makes so much more sense now knowing that the whole time she was a closeted lesbian
Ugh, poor Kurt, right in front of his face.
I have a soft spot in my heart when couples do that thing where one of the wears the other’s glasses. Both Zizes/Puck and Brittany/Artie do that in this episode and it’s adorable
I need to know the backstory on the stuffed chihuahua in Kurt’s bedroom
Oh god, there are so many things wrong with Kurt and Blaine’s conversation about his date with Rachel. First of all, what a shitty view about bisexuality that the show promoted. I seriously doubt Kurt would genuinely believe that, but I’d be more willing to accept that if they used it as a jumping off point for a bigger discussion to take place (Similar to Shameless when Ian learned more about trans and bi and all that). But no. Just a shitty comment Kurt made when he was jealous. Not cool, guys. Also, not cool for Blaine to compare Kurt to Karofsky. Yeah, Kurt isn’t hearing Blaine out about how he might be confused about his identity (which is totally legit when you’re 16 or whatever age and still learning who you are), but that is not the same AT ALL as Karofsky sexually assaulting Kurt and then threatening to kill him. Stop being asshole boys.
However, I do love dramatic!Blaine and petty!Blaine. “I’d say ‘bye,’ but I don’t want to make you angry.” Oh, you angry little teddy bear.
Beiste and Will friendship is adorable and also the only way I can deal with Will sometimes
Kurt is being a jerk to his dad. Burt doesn’t give a fuck about gay sex or straight sex, he just wants to make sure his kids aren’t fucking around in the house since they’re only in high school. Kurt trying to turn this into a homophobia thing is bullshit.
Sue playing Will’s voicemails over the loudspeaker literally made me laugh out loud. That does not happen much
No, Quinn. It is not the pot calling the kettle black. Schue is an adult. He can legally drink.
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dclilahs · 4 years
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SOFIA CARSON, CISFEMALE // did you hear that DELILAH HUMMEL-ANDERSON is back in lima? Yeah they are TWENTY years old SENIOR attending COLLEGE. Let’s hope no finds out about their BLACKMAILING HER LAWYER INTO NOT PAYING FOR THEIR HELP AFTER SHE HAD A THREE MONTHS OLD AFFAIR WITH THEM, DESPITE THEM BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP / MARRIAGE
if lost, please return to Tiffany & Co   :   the smell of chanel n°5 as she passes you, a flick of her hair only to leave you wishing you could bury your nose in the softness of her strands. lips covered in brand new fenty gloss spreading in a smile that will get her way out of any trouble and make you fall on your knees, she’s the legacy of blaine’s charm. perfectly white suit jacket, matched with a short skirt revealing her long, attractive legs that she could perfect by years of dancing and if you happen to find her alone in a room, once you listen closely, you can hear soft and dreamy sounds of her voice, humming to the end of the world by skeeter davis.
openly bisexual biromantic
she’s extremely smart. since she was a child, she was always absorbing books, able to read two books for a day when she was just 10 so basically her dads had to quickly get her new ones and by this time, she has separated room where she collects all her books
with how intelligent delilah is and how easily she learns, she was able to graduate sooner than all of her peers and right now, she’s twenty years old and in her graduation year of college
by the time she was 17, she was offered a job of magazine editor to vanity fair, which she manages to deal with and school to this day. this helped her get her name out to the world and her bank account quickly started growing as soon the world found out about her pretty face - wise and beauty goes well together. she was offered a few modeling shoots which she agreed to but as for right now, model industry is not something she’d like to focus on
dangerously calm. it’s almost impossible to make her lose her shit which only puts anyone else in a uncomfortable position and they will never admit it, but she frightens them. it’s her secret weapon of getting anything she wants and winning every time
her family and friends always goes first. especially family. she’s not the person to get close and sappy, she didn’t say ‘i love you’ to her parents and siblings since she was 12 years old and she knows it’s the reason why she can’t get closer to them, especially her parents, but she always had trouble with expressing her feelings
she will never cry. not even when she’s alone but you can definitely tell something is wrong when she starts to overwork herself, changing actual food and coffee to sugar free redbulls
she had a moment in her life where police officers could basically buy a house next to the hummel-andersons and after the third time, neither blaine or kurt were surprised when their daughter came back wasted or drugged and usually, being in this state, she’d do small thefts etc
nothing major happened that would cause her to suddenly act like that - nothing as in, she didn’t lose her job, wasn’t kicked out of school nor no one assaulted her in any way but what brought her to do the things she did was her own mind. maybe it was because of how much she overworked herself but in that time of her life, her brain would always tell her that because of how closed she is, her family is disappointed in her, especially knowing how her parents cared about their relationship
so once she had a whole ass case and basically could go to the jail, her family and delilah herself made sure that she will have the best lawyer out there. putting out a few hundred bucks and the whole thing was quiet, not a single soul that wasn’t involved ever knew about the delilah hummel-anderson almost getting locked up
but she wouldn’t be herself if she wasn’t flirtarious. putting the innocent act, all it took was shy glances and waves from the other side of the room, accidental hand touching with her lawyer until they were fucking on hummel-andersons table in the living room. it wasn’t a one night stand, their affair lasted around three months and within those three months, delilah’s ability to research every single detail helped her find out that her lawyer is in a pretty serious relationship
of course she could afford and pay for their assistance in getting her a clean card but something told her to have fun - and she did. all she needed was a couple pictures of them together to blackmail her lawyer into letting her not pay, unless they want their loved one to find out about their affair and on top of that, lose their job
that’s basically it? i’ll make sure to throw headcanons here and there once i think about something else but yuh. hit me up for plots here or on discord and as for wanted connections, you know the drill. tag is here but i will list couple ones that could be interesting to do
friends that are constantly shipped by their families
enemies with benefits
exes that broke up because the other one didn’t feel like delilah’s actually in love with them (especially since she doesn’t use the ‘love’ word)
exes but decided to keep the sex part in
brotp that hooked up one night
enemies / rivals that hooked up one night
'you spilled coffee on my favourite white shirt & that’s all i’m reminded of when i see your face so bYE'
'we had a twitter beef over who portrayed the joker the best & somehow it made us bitter enemies'
'you tweeted that you only saw one star wars movie & it’s a waste of time so now i’m offended & beefing with you on social media over such a stupid thing but you know what let me slid into your dms & offer watching all the movies with you to prove you my point except i never thought that we’d be fucking on your couch with star wars in the background'
we’ve always been partners in crime but now you’re hanging around someone else & now i’m jealous
ride or die
drinking buddies that occasionally have make out session when they’re wasted
we keep bumping into each other & it’s getting weird are you stalking me
we hate each other in real life but anyways it happens except none of us realizes that we have twitter accounts where we’re each other’s favourite mutuals but none of us knows it’s you
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missgoalie75 · 5 years
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c-sand replied to your post: butterscotchcreys replied to your post: ...
When I think of Kurt, one of my most hated television characters of all time, I think of Blaine kissing Rachel and liking it and realizing he was confused about his sexuality, because he always thought he strictly liked boys. Only to have Kurt bully him over his wondering if he liked girls as well, because how dare Jurt’s Obsession potentially be bisexual and not be confessing his love to him.
ah yes, the biphobic episode, who could forget. poor blaine, who was really confused and trying to figure himself out and kurt, his supposed friend, shitting all over him.
it did give me one of my favorite lines tho - i'd say bye but i wouldn't want to make you angry.
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andersonswalsh · 6 years
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Fic: Teach Me How Love Goes (for Klaine Advent Day 1/24)
This is a very bad idea. I know I haven’t finished the previous two years’ Advent stories even though I’ve promised to (I actually found my notes on them last night!). But here I am again, unable to resist. My plan is to work on all three this month and hopefully get them all completed by the 24th (LOL good idea when you work retail hell and are driving 60 miles back and forth this weekend alone).
But here is this year’s! Bisexual!Blaine, fully AU after 4x10, and past Blina with Klaine endgame.
Day 1: Attachment | Day 2 | AO3
“Mr. Hummel, it’s so nice to meet you,” the too-blonde and too-Botoxed-for-under-forty mom says to Kurt. “Bentley is going to be a wonderful addition to your classroom. His au pair says he’s already reading at a third grade level!”
Kurt nods and smiles, used to the fibs the elite of New York keep giving to the board of Mount Hudson Academy. He expects that as soon as Bentley is alone he will steal the toy trucks from everyone and not pay attention. “Thank you, Mrs. Hightower. I hope this is going to be a great year for everyone involved.”
Bentley’s mother grins tightly and walks away. Kurt breathes a sigh of relief. The first day of school is a trying time for his patience. Maybe he should have taken his dad’s advice of returning in Ohio where money doesn’t rule everything. But New York was always his dream, whether the means of how he reached success were the same as they were when he was younger.
Next is a little girl who is tightly attached to her father’s leg. Kurt crouches down to her level. “Hi there, sweetheart, I’m Mr. Hummel. What’s your name?”
She buries her head in Daddy’s leg, so he speaks up. “This is Lydia. Sorry, she usually doesn’t get like this.”
“Oh, it’s fine, I see this all the time.” Kurt stands back up and is taken aback. He’d know that face anywhere. “Blaine, hi.”
“Hi, Kurt. Long time no see, huh?”
He nods. “How did--did you know I would be her teacher?”
“We kind of figured when we got the masterlist.”
“We?”
“Yeah, Tina and I.”
Kurt remembers seeing the name on the roster list. Lydia Cohen-Anderson. He never thought, though, that it would belong to the two people he cut off years ago. “I see. You two are…” he doesn’t want to ask it.
“It’s complicated,” Blaine sighs. “Way too complicated for the first day of school.”
“So maybe around teacher conferences?” Kurt teases. Blaine doesn’t take the joke well. “I’m sorry,” Kurt adds. “It’s just--it’s been what, twelve years?”
“Thirteen since we broke up.”
Kurt thinks of his life since then. He remembers how everything was supposed to go when he made it to New York and how quickly it all fell apart; his relationship with Blaine, his Broadway career, Vogue. Teaching was never in the cards, but here he is.
“Daddy?” Lydia finally speaks up. “Can we go home now?”
Blaine shakes his head, rubbing a hand on top of her obviously inherited from him curls. “Sweetheart, we can’t. You have to stay here and learn, okay?”
“So I can be smart like you and Mama?”
“And like Mr. Hummel. He’s very smart and he can teach you everything.”
Lydia turns to stare at Kurt. “You are?” she asks.
“I absolutely am,” Kurt replies. “Now, how about we say goodbye to Daddy and we can get started on learning everything?”
She squeezes Blaine’s legs tightly. “Bye, Daddy!” she says.
Blaine chuckles. “Bye, Lydia. Be a good girl, okay?” He pries her off and smiles at Kurt. “Take care of her.”
“I’ll do my best,” Kurt says. “Tell Tina I said hi, if she’ll accept that.”
“She will. She’s not the same girl she was at eighteen.” Blaine smiles at them and walks out of the classroom. Kurt watches Lydia tentatively look around the room before she scampers to the bookcase, then he moves on to the next student and parent.
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transwolvie · 6 years
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"you’re literally throwing a fit and putting words in his mouth" No I don't. This is what he said:"god go spew ur dumb ass hot take elsewhere" -I don't have to put words, they're clearly there and this is rude. Anyway, Rachel was married once and had a crush on Kurt later(all written by Claremont)so I think seeing her as bi is understandable and there's nothing wrong w that. that's all... bye(the only blind person here is Gugenheim who never saw kitty&rachel and just wants to force his fantasy)
it’s funny how much you’re like “being bi isn’t worse than being a lesbian!!” (which are the words I said you were putting in his mouth by the way--you literally accused him, a bi dude, of trying to claim that bisexuality is worse than lesbianism just because he pointed out that your awful take was awful.)
but you’re the one acting like being a lesbian is somehow worse than being bi, and you’re also acting like lesbians NEVER DEAL WITH COMP HET. 
Literally you take IS dumb!! It’s bad!! Lmao! You’re acting like two people WHO ARE BISEXUAL are talking down bisexuality when actually we’re pointing out that YOU’RE the one super pissed at the potential of Rachel being a lesbian! 
YOU’RE the one who feels the need to “prove” that Rachel isn’t a lesbian! Think real fuckin long and hard about why the fuck you need to rush into someone’s askbox and “prove” that a woman is still attracted to men. Think about how fucked up that is. That’s not defending bisexuality. That’s lesbophobia.
You weren’t defending your headcanon or w/e--if you were doing that you would’ve just said “personally I headcanon Rachel as bi” but INSTEAD what you did was pull a Guggenheim--try to shove into someone’s space with “proof” that this shit is all okay, because CLEARLYYYYY if she’s ever had interest in men she’s not a lesbian. 
Her interest in men can’t POSSIBLY be reflective of our deeply heteronormative culture, cuz it’s not like Rachel is fictional or anything and doesn’t get to make her own choices, and thus is going to be shoe-horned into het relationships by writers. Said het relationships are totallyyyyy proof that her being a lesbian is bullshit because it’s not like lesbians everrrrrr talk about feeling obligated to date/marry men. Sure.
It’s a pretty fucking awful take :)
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