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tobi-smp · 1 year
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people will be like “[describes a neurodivergent trait without actually calling it that] isn’t this thing men do so stupid? all the ladies in the replies know what I’m talking about #feminism”
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bored-trans-lesbian · 4 months
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A Starstruck Odyssey, and Masculinity
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I have thoughts and am just gonna unload them on Tumblr. That's what we do here, right? I recently have been re-listening to Starstruck and have had some thoughts on it's depictions of masculinity. This isn't a serious post per se, just some thoughts and observations. Starstruck has a wide spectrum of masculine characters on display, though a lot of it is hostile/toxic. Most men or male-coded characters are either outright villains, or more neutral parties with some toxic and selfish tendencies. Don't get me wrong it's a wild violent galaxy and that's the point, the entire party participates in scamming, kidnapping, exploitations, and unnecessary murder and we love to see it, it's not like it explicitly makes all men out to be inherently more monstrous and evil than others. But I do think the depictions of masculinity can be interesting to observe. Amercadia is a pretty cut and dry critism of the patriarchy and American nationalist culture, which is fantastic worldbuilding to include. Many of the masculine-coded androids are actually pretty nice, friendly and helpful or serious about their jobs, aside from a bitchy one in the beginning who injects our main 'droid with an anxiety spike about being one of a kind. Pretty much all of the Slugs we meet occupy masculine bodies, and they seem to have an abstract gender that picks up pronouns from the body they occupy, though the monarch is objectively a king and uses masculine pronouns even before getting a body, and he's pretty selfish and stupid.
But the main pair I'm thinking of, is Barry and Gunnie. Looking at the two of them, there's a lot you can assume. Big Barry Syx is this massive, bulky dude in power armor and shades with a mullet, while Gunnie is a 4' 11" techie cyborg with a big ol' smile. Listen to them in action and many of your assumptions are reinforced; Barry is a total dude-bro associated with nuts, steroids, working out, and acting much like gym bros in our modern life, while Gunnie is a hyperactive technician just doing his best, despite being mired in sympathetic tragedy. Barry's trauma is fairly fantastical or common to stories, having his family gunned down by one of his own, while Gunnie is mostly weighted down by medical debt after he got in an accident after trusting the wrong person. Based on these apperent details one would assume Barry is this toxicly masculine jackass who's insecure about his flaws, while Gunnie is the smartest man on board and is trying to keep everyone in line, doing the right thing, ect. And of course, you'd be dead wrong. Gunnie, while a sympathetic and likable character, is *mired* in toxic masculine traits. While it was an accident that put him in his situation, it was brash foolishness and ignoring obvious red flags that got him in that position in the first place, not to mention a rebellion against his family driving him to it. Furthermore, as Lou himself admits in Adventuring party, Gunnie's *pride* is the reason his problems are so vast; He comes from a lot of money, his initial debt might have never happened or mostly gone away to begin with if he went back to his dads for help. His toxicity doesn't make him an unlikable character but he does have these traits. He's brash, prideful, and ignores common sense a lot. He is also very nice and friendly with others, listens to people, ect. He doesn't have *every* toxic trait in the book, but has them which I tend to not even notice because he's just a funny little guy. Barry, meanwhile, is just about the most wholesome and giving person in the entire 'verse. Syx *And* Nyne, when not under a slug's control, are these total sweetheart bros. Sure, they shit talk each other with friendly ribbing, and yes they are very good at violence, but this violence is always motivated by helping those in need or fighting for those who can't fight for themselves, the Barry Battalion way. Barrys hate it when people are rude, or hurt the innocent. Barrys fight for their friends, provide endless support and praise, and will throw their very bodies into danger to protect or help, as seen on Rec 97 and in the big finale of the battle of the brands. And while the thing the love most is other Barrys, that does not mean that what they respect is also being heavily macho dudes. Barry one (or was is spelled differently? Barry Won? who knows) was the professor who created the other Barrys, a nerdy and fragile professor type, that the Barrys loved and treated as a fellow Barry *literally* the moment they were created. Even Syd is a Barry now, and that's accepted both by Barry Syx who's known her a long time and bonded with her, as well as Barry Nyne who literally, to his perception, *Just* met her, despite her appearance as like a waitress with an arm canon. Being a Barry, in other words, isn't about being just like them, having the name Barry, or anything like that. It's a vibe, it's a way to be, and the 'verse is better off with these super wholesome boys who, despite embodying many stereotypes of the gym bro, posses *none* of the commonly toxic traits also associated with that. They aren't insecure around smarter people or those with different skillsets, they hold no gendered assumptions, and they never wanna use their might to opress others for their own satisfaction.
Just, some thoughts.
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toy-capsule · 8 months
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barbie movie rewrite because it was okay but i know how it couldve been better
ya so i've only watched the movie once and actively as i was watching it i was thinking of ways to rework the plot.. and i wrote none of it down after i saw it. but i like this website and i should post here more so here's my nonsense thoughts :)
so couple of main changes need to take place for this movie to work as a proper feminist movie in my opinion. making it perfect or overly nuanced isn't my idea of fixing it; I would much rather improve the fundamental message and conclusion so it isn't a specifically flawed intro to feminism because that is a really valuable thing for movie's in this climate to be.
change 1: alan deserved better!
one of the biggest philosophy's of feminism i believe in is intersectionality. alan is in a very interesting spot in the barbie world which i believe makes him uniquely suited for the movie's core conflict- an opportunity that the writers squandered (number one pathetic character apologist here). anyways, from what ive seen in the commentary and reactions this movie has, is that like weird barbie, alan is seen as a bit of a queer icon. but instead of his typical pre-movie interpretation of him just being a gay man, ive witnessed many also head canon them as non-binary as well (I'll stick to he/they pronouns for them here!) because of how much he chooses to associate with the barbies over the kens more often than not. i cannot believe that this wasn't explored more in the conclusion.
this leads me into my main argument for alan- instead of simply inspiring the resolution they should've been a much more important key player. how this might happen starts with the dance off in the third act. i think that pitting the kens against each other here was a pretty low blow narratively, it really establishes a pretty unfortunate theme for the ending which is just division between the two groups. (the barbie movie is really just misogyny but in reverse and doesn't attempt to fix any of the problems it acknowledges.) instead of infantilizing the kens -which was fine at the beginning of the movie for shits and giggles but became less funny and more frustrating as the movie went on- i think a much more productive start to the beach dance-off scene could've been alan trying to talk sense into the kens (like gloria does for the brainwashed barbies.) it would have needed to fail at this point for the sake of conflict but it would have brought in an easy applicable solution for our real life equivalent of misogyny into the narrative - men (and those apart of their sphere socially) talking to and checking their fellow peers when they are doing sexist shit
after the barbies take over the supreme court and do their thing we have a bit of tension to resolve still. even though gosling's stereotypical ken (sken) has discovered that he is kenough, that can't be said for the rest of the ken's. liu's ken #2 (real character name) should probably be the one to try to enforce the patriarchy just because of the preestablished tension. i think it would be a wonderful moment to see sken stand up to him properly here and really acknowledge alan's message here of respecting the other Barbie's as people and friends (shout out ace stereotypical barbie!) rather than objects. additionally they ask for respect in turn (equal representation on the supreme court because that ending was so foul wtf) also maybe some hand holding action because i am nothing if not a poly sken/alan/ken2 shipper- this is still a tumblr analysis what did you expect)
change 2: ruth shouldn't have been god, barbie should've
barbie becoming human at the end was weird and gross. who would actually want to be human? i'm sorry but if i lived as an inspirational concept to little girls around the world i think i would've taken that power a bit more seriously.
i'm so glad ruth was included in this movie and she should still play a key part in barbie's crisis and development. but.. instead of being god i think she should've acted more as a guiding spirit to barbie or a silly (possibly vengeful - literally just for fun i have no basis for this) ghost haunting mattel. after all, all of barbie's power comes from being an idea that can persevere throughout generations, and ruth is well... dead. i think instead of asking to become human when she got agency the conversation shouldve gone a bit more like this : ruth: what do you want barbie? barbie: honestly i don't know, is that normal? ruth: yes honey, (big dramatic monolouge about not rushing to find purpose.. etc) barbie: after everything that's happened i still dont feel like i belong ruth : that's okay too. you have all the time in the universe to decide what you want to be, youre in control of your own destiny barbie: the universe sounds nice actually, but there is one thing i need to do before i go *she fucking obliterates mattel's ceo and thats how she debuts as god*
not the best but better than her going to the fucking gyno as an ending
minor changes!
I think gloria and sasha should have gotten more development, making them mirror ruth and barbie wouldve been a nice touch. maybe an ending or after credits scene depicting the two of them having a similar conversation to the one i just described would have been silly. (also please take sasha more seriously that girl is right about everything and is listened to only a third of the time she actually gets lines. she could've been an excellent dead-pan comedic foil to the more absurdist jokes of the film, under utilized fave) big opportunity to make that conversation absolutely unhinged too:
gloria: you can be whatever you want in life kid sasha: *actively pinning up pictures of warner bros ceo david zaslav on a bulletin board with a big red x and looks directly into the camera* I know mom <3
mattel's depiction was barely passable. i have had enough of major companies being posed as villains but keeping them silly and unthreatening- its unfaithful and disrespectful to real life. start them off as silly and shitty, thats fine. it matches the tone of the movie- but as parallels between real life and the movie converge in the third act, mattel should start acting like the predatory company they actually are.
their investment in reinstating barbie as supreme leader over ken despite him making more money in the name of "feminism" would have never in a star death ever happen. literally the entire board only being men was a joke they really fucking made and still had them supporting women- it ruins the entire thesis of the movie and makes the message muddy. fix that, keep them forcefully trying to pair up barbie and ken but change it so its true life: nothing more than an effort to make more of a profit and bring patriarchy to barbieland. this would've brough the climax to an apex and match the stakes to my barbie god conclusion.
anyways yeah i loved the artistic direction of this movie and the casting but not much else! let me know if i missed anything and thx for reading
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hxhhasmysoul · 7 months
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Don't you think it's funny cause actual canon gay characters in BL manga will say "I love you" but only the shounen bromance can spew out some of the most romantic shit akin to a 19th century poet writing a letter expressing his surpressed love for his lover 😭.....
I find it more depressing than funny, tbh.
I haven't read/seen much BL recently so I'm not sure what the genre looks like but if I remember correctly, you could also find there slow, melodramatic romance.
But the strong gay vibes a lot of the shounen manga exhibit has a lot to do with patriarchy and censorship.
Popular shounen tends to be not that much about what all teen boys are interested in but what they should be interested in, what's acceptable for them to be interested in. It's societal gender expectations reinforced by peer pressure. Japan isn't great on the queer topics due to its history, especially when it comes to men. Not because they are more accepting of wlw, it's just women are societaly more invisible and their interests were/are? considered more frivolous. They can have homosexuality in their low brow media, because in a patriarchal society the media directed at women is by default kinda trashy.
And I'm talking here about women's media because BL and it's cousins are stereotypically female oriented categories, though it's not like men don't read/write it. There's manga that is by gay men for gay men, I forgot the name of it, but what I've seen it, it's more Tom of Finland in vibe than Yuri on Ice. (Though I've seen just a few titles and it's surely far more than just that)
That's why there will be plenty of homophobia in media directed at teen boys. Like there's a whole type of character in shounen that feeds into predatory homosexual stereotypes, like Hisoka from HxH, for example.
HxH is a very interesting example here because Togashi has hinted at times that he wanted to include a gay romance in HxH, and the phrasing he uses between Gon and Killua is quite openly romantic in nature @/https://www.tumblr.com/i-heart-hxh has a lot of meta about it, if you're interested.
In shounen historically two things converged, the homophobia and the ugh, romance is for girls, yuk! So we can't really have het romance in a normal way, because girls have cooties and romance is for girls, but we're also homophobic so we can't have gay characters.
But we also want drama and deep connections and cool lines, so like it all gets very homoerotic but the epilogue will make them straight.
It's getting better slowly, like gradually shounen will have female characters that do stuff, and there will be canon gay characters. Maybe there will even be romance in the major titles, though not in this "Big There", I'm afraid. And no I don't consider whatever the fuck predatory shit is happening in CSM as romance. JJK kinda has one relationship, Kirara and Hakari, but they aren't even officially confirmed despite everyone knowing what they are XD. There was also kinda Chousou/Yuki budding but well mum would not have it, apparently. Hell's Paradise has an established relationship with a bit of romantic flashbacks, but Kittymaru is kinda ace, so it's slightly too queer and not enough a non cringe het romance shounen so desperately needs (Hell's Paradise also has canon queer characters, Kaku took full advantage of Jump+ and it's to be commended).
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genderisareligion · 1 year
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Hey there! I wanted to ask for advice, just a couple months ago I meet a boy, and though all the kind, soft, delicate and funny interactions we had I kinda felt for him, I honestly denied it so many times cause I knew maybe I was confusing "being treated like a human being" (cause i spend 2 years in total isolation for mental health issues) with love, and kept reminding me that in the back of my mind I was just really happy to have someone who didn't treat me like shit and really listened and care for me, but in some way I know that's just a facade (from him?) Because idk, males are shit and now that im so vulnerable and starving for love maybe I'm trynna fulfill this "fantasy" where he loves me for who I am and all that stuff, and idk maybe it doesn't make sense? I'm a little high while writing this and just spitting my thoughts as I write, and I don't have anyone to ask or talk bout this, and I hate that I'm putting all my trust and emotional stability in his existence? Because honestly I don't wanna be near men anymore, cause I know the starter pack of a male is basically being a misogynistic piece of shit, consuming porn, etc, etc, but pretending he's a nice guy, and today a new manager came to work with me (he quitted from work, thats how we met) and honestly she's soooooo beautiful, like gorgeous, and he came to just say hi and told me to go eat together after my shift, and that he was gonna wait for me and also one of his friends, when we were eating, his friend mentioned that "he heard from someone" that my new manager was beautiful and wanted to work there to tal to her blablabla and I kinda felt jealous cause the only person that saw her was the boy that I "like" and kinda made me felt super self conscious about my appearance (I try to be as far from the beauty industry and cosmetics etc, thus i have notorious facial hair, moustache, a big nose, dont use make up, have crooked teeth, small acne scars, you know just a normal woman lmaoo) and I kinda starred thinking in the old ways (patriarchy: should i fix my nose? Maybe if i shaved people would look at me differently, maybe i should get rid of this black spots in my face in a expensive spa, because i feel like a goblin and maybe i would be more loved that way) and I hated it, it scared me, and couldn't shake the thoughts, and kinda feel jealous of beautiful woman, i wished i could have and feel what they do, but I just know that that's just a lie, but idk I kinda feel terrible, I don't wanna "hate her" just cause I felt jealous for a boy that maybe isn't even the greatest shit but idk how to stop feeling this way and stop falling in this misogynistic rabbit hole to the patriarchy again
Hi. My advice for you is to not beat yourself up about feeling this way, jealousy via internalized misogyny can happen to the best of us, even me (in the homosexual way but yeah). I'm sure you're right and you just look like a normal woman. What's really helped me over the last decade, when it comes not judging myself by patriarchal Barbie doll standards as they become more the norm and not comparing myself to other women for any reason, is to just kinda unplug from media as much as I can. Social media but Instagram and Snapchat especially, as well as like just Hollywood shit and film in general, in which women are made up 10x as heavily as males like 99% of the time and so many of these narratives are about some woman just orbiting some man.
The narrative that we (even me) should be competing for male attention is everywhere, even when it isn't explicit the beauty industrial complex has the male gaze as its main benefactor ($$$) and director, so much so that unless you're like Amish or have never seen an advertisement no one is really immune to the propaganda. This guy you like may actually be sweet and not a typical porn addicted moid but (and I really do hate to say this I wish it were different) the odds of that happening are probably slim.
If they aren't though and he's your future husband to me it still says something that you're feeling off about the tension this is causing in this moment. It's good you're at least sitting with it and considering your negative response to this other woman
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awigglycultist · 2 years
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I'm finally finally watching it, it took me nearly two weeks but I'm finally rewatching Solve It Squad Takes A Chill Pill. I loved this episode when I watched SISBIB when it first came out. It was easily my favorite, and sitting here now typing this out just before I press play on the video thinking back to it, I still think it was an amazing episode. Do I don't really know why it took me nearly two weeks to rewatch it. Does have something to do with Robert Manion being in the episode? Yeah sure maybe. But, I'm pretty okay with watching stuff he's been in bc I'm easily able to look at it amd separate him from the character. So I don't know what happened this time. But I'm watching it now. So here we go: SIS Takes A Chill Pill rewatch thoughts
And uh warning: I'm gonna be talking about Robert's characters, and I will be calling things he does/his characters do funny and such
"oh I love my some of Sugar Daddies tasty holes!" "...I'm sure you do Keith."
I don't think interrupting their REM cylce would be the only way to get Esther to kill you
"Ha! Got em!" Keith they're talking about all of the team, you included
The growing emptiness deep inside :)
God Keith's blinding love for Gwen you stupid stupid idoit
"uh actually I'm gender no-conforming" "and Keith is gender non-coherant" still absolutely gets me
"we all got what we wanted! 'Cept Scrags!"
Also Scrags' face throughout this whole opening nddjdj
Just. Once again. The theme song >>
"Dark and edgy reboot of... The Magic School Bus."
OH BOY HERE STARTS NICHOLAS' BREAK DOWN THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EPISODE
Scrags folding clothes isn't gonna take all day you can get to that later
"hey their gals and non binary pals!" implies this place only serves women and enbies or that Taylor just immediately clocked Esther
"mm yum!"
Goth Jojo Siwa!
"do you have kids Uncle Scrogtaski?" "uh well I used to have a dog so :).. No." "did the dog die? Did you watch? When was the moment you knew its soul had left its earthly meat sack?" sjdodk also I forgot how terrifying Paris also also I still think Scrags' full name should not be spelled like that
"well I think society sets unrealistic expectations for women and because men are threatened-" "how fast can you drive?"
Back to wives :)
"people 👏 do 👏 this 👏 in 👏 movies 👏 sister!"
Molly isn't drugs!
Jeez I forgot how gross the gas station bathroom was
"soo. You are. In school :)..."
SCRAGS FACE DURNING "wether you think we should abolish the police?" SJSIDJDJ
HOW DID I FORGET ABOUT THE GHOST SAYING OKAY BOOMER TO SCRAGS?
Aw I forgot about about this little moment with Keith and Cam
YEAH TAKE OUT YOUR RAGE!!
OUCHHH THE OLD MOVIES LIKE INSIDE OUT LINE IT HURTSS BC I KNOW MY YOUNGER NEPHEWS ARE GOING TO THINK THIS
Nice try Scrags.
"he can try :)"
"you need tiny hands to make tiny phones." djdj
Jddkdjd I kinda forgot about Gwen making fun of fanfiction
YEAH WOO NICHOLAS IS CRYING I love Corey smiling everytime Nicholas cries
"YES QUEEN EAT THE PATRIARCHY"
Bleach your asshole!
How rich is Gwen exactly? Bc. They've touched a lot.
Scrags my beloved
"I pooped" "congrats don't take that for granted as you get older"
Do 8 Yr olds still poop their pants? I feel like they shouldn't still be pooping their pants? But idk much about kids
The lengths Keith will go to win over Gwen's kids is really sweet
"and bring a bucket and mop for the wet ass plushies" idc how dated some of the jokes and references in the episode (and the others as well but especially this one I think) are and how in the future that's going to date the even more. I still think very much think it's funny and enjoy them
Paris thinking Keith and Scrags are engaged also the fact that Scrags nods in agreement with this
WIVES THEIR OUTFITS ARE SWITCHED
WIVES THEY KISS
I forgot just how much the episode said Esther x Gwen rights
On boy stocks!
"you knooww?" I doo :) " "yeahhh :)"
YEAH WOO GWEN SELF DISCOVERY
Pizza Rat! Genuinely shocked no one's talked about the Pizza Rat mascot bc. Wow
"fuck Scrags are we old?"
"no the arcade version is totally different!" "how so?" "it's bigger!"
"and with your brain and my.... brain?"
MAH WIFE 👌
Dreamy Creamy :)
Keith says ACAB!
Taylor you dummy
NICHOLAS PRAYING TO DWAYNE THE ROCK JOHNSON MDKDNDDJ
"those shitty kids look an awful lot like my shitty kids"
"but we're gonna rough him up at the station!" "uh we're not gonna go for that" "we'll barely touch him!" sbdjdb
"it'll be like we're dealing with a caplist insurrectionist!" christ. I very much forgot that was referenced.
Ew god this flirting
"Nicky? Nick? Bro am I getting off? Am I free to go??"
The episode ending with Keith singing a Blink 182 in a prison cell. Is great.
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detransraichu · 1 month
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I'm tired of the trans community's denial of agab-specific oppression, I'm tired of their political agab-blindness. It doesn't want to acknowledge how harmful it is to afab people (and amab gender/sexual minorities too), how it helps perpetuate androcentrism, male supremacy and the erasure of afab oppression. I think the trans community doesn't want to recognize afabs as a coherent class affected by specific problems related to being born with a vulva, because it sees such recognition as the premise of terfism. So its solution is to deny that afabs are a cohesive group, and so on. But the funny thing is that the only time afabs-as-a-class are recognized, is in being oppressors of transfems
you're right on the money anon!! 👏👏
yelling terfism has become the best shield ever for transfems and their extreme allies. amab socialization doesn't just go away, same with afab socialization. it starts off from birth and follows us right up to the point where maybe someone starts passing perfectly as the opposite agab!! and even then they STILL have the brain that experienced the privileges or disprivileges of growing up as their agab. that trauma, or lack thereof, and what you were taught really impacts things. it teaches afab people to bend over backwards and be as compliant and submissive and police eachother so that all amab folks are pleased with us. it teaches amab people that they can get away with a LOT in how they treat afab and afab-passing people. even a few afab folks talking among themselves is viewed as dangerous, bc then anyone amab might have to do inner work to unlearn their socialization and uplift afab voices, and they grew up being told by amab ppl in their life and the media that we're lesser, we're catty, we're untrustworthy, we're objects to use and toss away, we're flimsy and overemotional, etc. many transfem people act like they're doing Being Afab better than us bc they're used to fighting with other amab ppl to prove they're just as much of a "man" as eachother. but that's not how it works for cis women & transmasc people. we never forget we're afab. we're made acutely aware that we're seen as female from an early age and the risks and expectations that comes with that. we've experienced our whole life what it's like to have an afab body under the patriarchy, and THAT AFFECTS OUR MINDS. the same happens with cis men & transfem people. there's just no way around it.
people of color have open discussions about someone being white-passing, how it can be a privilege while still having its struggles. why can't transfems admit they had amab socialization and that yes it was a privilege, and affected their brains, so they may have things they need to work to unlearn...? why? why isn't passing as a cis man openly viewed as a privilege? i'm part native and i KNOW i had privilege growing up being white-passing, it was so fucking blatant it'd be ridiculous to say otherwise. amab people, up until they started passing as cis women, had the oppression of people viewed as effeminate men, with the assumption that they're gay. society HATES fem men and gay men, so of course that sucked and was probably traumatic in a way that i'll never understand. the only afab folks who understand are male-passing and feminine. just like how the only amab people who understand what it's like to be a masc woman... actually PASS as masc women. because identity isn't just identity at the end of the day, identity is lived reality. some trans people never want to pass, and that's okay. but then they are not living as the opposite sex, and shouldn't claim to understand their experiences, especially if people of the opposite sex are gnc and/or lgb while they pass as quirky women or feminine men. bc dear god that is NOT the same struggle. and it's okay to admit that
being privileged in one specific way doesn't make you lesser or mean you have no struggles in your life or aren't oppressed at all. white-passing natives still have unique struggles. but y'all, it makes it so they don't know i'm native until i tell them or i'm wearing native jewelry or smtg. which means... gasp... i don't experience racism most of the time! that's a big fucking deal in my interactions with others. i don't know what it's like, so i need to be in student mode and be a good ally. if you are transfem and are seen as a gnc cis man, you are not in the shoes of cis women and afab-passing trans women. if you are transfem, you will never fully understand body-related afab issues and issues relating to afab upbringing. sometimes you need to sit tf down and listen. same with transmascs who don't actually pass as gnc men but speak as though they 100% get it and can speak over cis gays -- sometimes u need to listen to male-passing gnc men too, they had a different upbringing than you. just look at your daily life and how people actually treat you, without you actively talking about your identity. just look back on how you were actually treated before identifying as something else, or before transitioning. there's often a privilege there. and sometimes a mix of privilege & disprivilege. but you gotta be the bigger person and be like "hey, y'know what, i don't get this experience. i'm not always facing the blunt of misogyny or homophobia or any other oppression axis. i gotta admit that and listen to the voices of people who are most affected"
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