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saphic-viv · 1 year
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Tenoch Huerta behind the scenes of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
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widowpunx · 2 years
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Mi rey / My KING
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shung-chai · 2 years
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First Appearance of Talocan in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever!!
First Appearance of Talocan in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever!!
It has been confirmed that Namor's underwater kingdom of Atlantis from Marvel Comics will be known to its inhabitants as "Talocan" in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever!
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In Aztec mythology, the realm of Tlālōcān is ruled by the rain god Tlāloc and the water goddess Chalchiuhtlique.
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the-collector-blog · 2 years
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MCU Namor's name has a new origin: "El Niño Sin amor", the boy without love. So naturally, I made an edit with the song "Man Without Love" from Moon Knight.
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Theory for BP2 (if the leak that Doctor Doom is in the post-credits scene is true):
Doom wants access to both Wakanda’s vibranium resources and Tlalocan’s (insert resource here). The reason why he needs their resources is because his own nation of Latveria (which is Sokovia, but renamed after he took over the country) is facing heavy sanctions from the international community. So he literally needs to rob another nation of their resources in order to support his own nation. And Wakanda just happens to be one of his targets since that’s the wealthiest country in the world.
Instead of directly invading both nations, Doom instigates a war between the two of them. His plan could go several different ways, such as:
1) Namor and Shuri wipe each other out, allowing Doom to “influence” the selection process for the next monarchs of Wakanda and Tlalocan. Doom will probably support Attuma’s claim (one of Namor’s villains) while for Wakanda, it’s whoever he formed a partnership with.
2) Destabilize both nations in order to make a future invasion easier.
3) Cause enough unrest so that the monarchs of both nations are overthrown by their own people. Doom could then install his own puppet leaders.
4) Cause a long enough war that either Wakanda or Tlalocan will reach out to the international community for aid, allowing Sokovia/Latveria to swoop in as the heroic saviors. One nation ends up being defeated by Sokovia/Latveria while the other one becomes indebted to them. Either way, Doom ends up on top.
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agentem · 2 years
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I am in Mexico and wasn't on my computer for two whole days. And I haven't seen the last HotD yet.
I do still have my priorities though. Yesterday we went to the Archaeology Museum in Mexico City (which is great! It was also so moving to see so many kids standing in front of the Sun Stone for pictures because that shit is usually in some European museum where no one cares.) But most of the photos I took were of stuff about Tlāloc and Tlalocan, which will be in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
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This is a mural of Tlalocan. I got photos (of a reproduction) and a magnet.
It's where Namor lives, guys!
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milkaloloart · 2 years
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“Tlalocan” this piece is part of my on going show THE WALK HOME II at @cactusgallery check it out! For more info please contact [email protected] #tlalocan #thewalkhome #cactusgallery #mexicanart #artemexicano #ancientgods #tlaloc #afterlife #mitologia #mesoamerica #azteca #mythology #mesoamerican #neomexicanismos #latinamericanart #lovers #amantes #tlaloque #paradise #underworld #journey #mictlan #contemporaryart #painting #vidaymuerte #surrealart #womanartist #realismomagico #mexicanartist #tlaloques https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfz42fUOPaO/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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luxshine · 1 year
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Believe it or not, this is one of the BIGGEST honors someone can get in Mexico. Your own bootleg TORTAS food cart (Tortas or tacos. Both work)
BTW, "Tortas ahogadas" are literally "Drowned Tortas", which are basically your average torta pretty much drowned in salsa.
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eterut · 1 year
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El pasado 25 de Noviembre fui a Aguascalientes y claro que me llevé a Namorcito a conocer su retrato, el mural chingonsote "Tlalocan" hecho por el maestrazo Jesús "Chunga" Capetillo
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Les comparto algunas fotos que hice en mi visita:
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El mural está localizado en la ciudad de Aguascalientes, capital del estado del mismo nombre, ubicado al centro de nuestro país🇲🇽, queda a unos 20 minutos caminando desde la central de autobuses y a unos 15 minutos del centro histórico de la ciudad.
Este mural fue realizado gracias a la autogestión de los artistas involucrados, ademas del gran Chunga, también participaron el Zhot RNK, Asoter, Croe Reyes y el apoyo de Juanjo Quezada.
Recomiendo MUCHO visitarlo, es enorme, lleno de detalles y hecho con una maestría impresionante 🤎 Puro pinche poder prieto!
Pd. Si van, compren algo en la tiendita "Karlita", está mero enfrente del mural🌙
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On November 25th I went to Aguascalientes and of course I took my little Namor to see his portrait, the mural "Tlalocan" made by the great master Jesús "Chunga" Capetillo.
The mural is located in the city of Aguascalientes, capital of the state of the same name, located in the center of Mexico, it is about a 20-minute walk from the foreign bus termibal and about 15 minutes from the downtown of the city.
This mural was made thanks to the self-management of the artists involved, in addition to the great Chunga there were: Zhot RNK, Asoter, Croe Reyes and the support of Juanjo Quezada.
I HIGHLY recommend visiting it, it's huge, full of details and done with an impressive mastery 🤎 Pure fucking brown power!
P.S. If you go, buy something at the "Karlita" grocery store, it's right in front of the mural🌙
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watched wakanda forever the other day,,,, and like,,,,, tf you mean that the bad guys were indigenous ppl ????? like they really pit black ppl against indigenous and im like ???? why. when the start of the movie made it clear who the mfs were (white ppl), that they were the source of the problem why did it end up with an unnecessary fight between indigenous ppl and black ppl like it made no fucking sense. they couldve had it all, they couldve destroyed all of them and instead what did we get? unnecessary suffering and deaths. like,, hmnito que wea po obviously the problem was white ppl and they didnt even get a slap or something que rabia
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saphic-viv · 1 year
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He knows his sh*t.
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bluest-planet · 2 years
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Mmm came back from the theater after watching Wakanda Forever.
What the fuck was that.
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anon-402 · 6 months
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All 'Dia de Los Muertos' references in today's QSMP event
I’ve seen it in Xitter but not yet in Tumblr, so I’m gonna go and translate each Egg’s book with the references to the deities that are mention within.
(English is not my first language. Sorry for any typo or grammar mistake).
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For Tilin:
Tilin, my girl, I’m sorry you couldn’t enjoy the life it was expected for you, but don’t be afraid you will be with mom at Chichihualcuauhco[1] where I will take care of you. I won’t let anything hurt my helpless girl until you have the opportunity to be reborn again, you didn’t deserve to join the Gods in the underworld. - Tezcatlipoca[2]
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For Bobby:
My little Bobby, you have proven to own dignity and courage to fight for what is right, As a result of this, I’ve invited you to my kingdom  Tonatiuhichan[3], where at my side, you and other warriors will sing about their deeds and will dance until midnight, so you can enjoy forever the sunset that you adore so much. - Tonaituh[4]
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For Juana:
Juana, it’s an honor for me and my wife Mictecachihuatl[5] to have you join us in the Mictlan[6]. Even though your dead was an accident, you may enjoy the journey that is our kingdom. You treated nature with respect in your life, so our dogs are excited to meet you at last. You will join us in the infinity of the universe forever. - Mictlantecuhtli [7]
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For Trump:
Oh Trump, I’m sorry that my currents took you to this destiny, but to compensate I will invite you to Tlalocan[8], where you may join us in our celebration without end, and you may eat all the corn, amaranth, pumpkin, tomato and chile you want. In my kingdom, I promise you there’s no suffering and you will never be alone. - Tlaloc [9]
Now for all the little references:
[1] Chichihualcuauhco:
Afterlife in which children who died young or in childbirth are sent and fed from the “wet-nurse tree” (You can’t see it in the photo, but there was a tree in Tilin’s altar). Souls here wait for their next opportunity to be reborn.
[2] Tezcatlipoca:
He’s one of the four creator gods of the universe. I’m not an expert on Aztec mythology and I wasn’t really into Tilin’s lore, so I’m kinda uncertain as to why he was the one to write to them or how are they connected.
[3] Tonatiuhichan:
One of the afterlife paradises, where the soul of warries who died in battle go. It was believed that warriors could go back to their homes (land of the living) as hummingbirds. (Fun fact: Woman who died at childbirth would be given the same rank as the warriors who died in battle and would be sent to a similar place called Cihuatlampa!)  
[4] Tonatiuh:
God of the sun (who runs Tonatiuhichan), who most believed was the creator of the Flor of Cempasúchil.
[5] Mictecachihuatl:
Lady of the Dead, Mictlantecuhtli’s consort. She guards the bones of the dead. (Fun Fact: In Oaxaca, is known as Matlacihua, and is said to punish womanizing and drunken men who walk late at night. Kinda funny considering Mariana and Slime’s interactions lmao.)
[6] Mictlan:
The underworld. Most people who die travel to Mictlan. To travel to the kingdom, you have to go through nine levels, which kinda needs dogs to carry the dead across the river. Same reason as to why Juana is sent dogs. (Fun fact: Depending in the color of the dog, they would act different. Yellow ones would just carry the soul, white ones would refuse cause they just washed themselves, and black dogs would refuse cause they just swum the river.)
[7] Mictlantecuhtli:
Lord of the Dead, king of Mictlan. There’s nothing much to say about him; he just simply tried to maintain order in the kingdom and was kinda of an asshole to other gods. There’s a whole myth about other Gods wanting to repopulate Earth, and him going ‘Nuh uh’ until Quetzalcóatl gets tired of him and steals the human bones from Mictlan lol.
[8] Tlalocan:
The afterlife of the Nectar. Better known as the water paradise, where those who died through drowning (or anything associated with rain for that matter) go. I read somewhere that there’s a theory of Trump dying because he drown in his own tears, so that’s why he was invited by Tlaloc.
[9] Tlaloc:
The God of rain, associated as the giver of life. The flower Tagetes Lucida are kind of like the Cempasúchil, and are his symbol.
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alinksta · 1 year
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not me being quite upset by how little talk there has been (amongst mexicans/center latinos) about how Talokán was beautifully adapted from its mythological concept/inspiration, I was loosing my mind.
Allow me to give y’all a little of mythological context because I am a history nerd and the Mesoamerican cultures and mythology are very rad. 
(A spoiler ahead with my interpretation)
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Culturally wise, Talokán and its culture take a major inspiration from Maya/Aztec cultures, but the name of the place is strikingly resemblant to that of the Tlalocan from the Mexica culture.
One of the most beautiful heavens/paradises.
The Tlalocan is ruled by Tlaloc the (Mexica) god of lightning, rain, earthquakes, and agriculture. This place was described as a paradise from which the waters that benefited life on earth flowed; in this place resided Lord Tlaloc's favorites, those who died: 1) drowned, 2) of leprosy (as well as the bubonic, mangy, gouty and hydropic), 3) fulminated by lightning. 
It was said that the souls that dwell in this paradise are extremely happy and would enjoy the fullness of a place where there would always be cornfields and all kinds of herbs that were green and fresh, and fragrant flowers.
I also noticed a little wink with his Maya counterpart Chaac who dwelt in caves and cenotes, the entrances to the Mayan underworld, the Xibalbá.
With this information in mind, you can imagine how I was loosing it when Namor explained what happened before and after he was born and how it brilliantly aligns with some of the conditions of HOW TO ENTER INTO THE TLALOCAN.
Magical plant aside (which was found underwater in the entrance to an underwater cave/cenote, and the future civilization resides in/is a literal underworld), they were dying of Small pox (if I remember correctly) and that easily falls under condition #2 for a soul to enter the Tlalocan; after ingesting the plant they did die but condition #1 is also fulfilled because they can no longer reside on the surface because they would “drown”/suffocate.
I'm so overjoyed how well portrayed/adapted/researched everything was, and as a history nerd and Mexican I’m very proud of how my culture was represented, this movie overdelivered even in the mythological.
LÍIK'IK TALOKAN!
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occasionaltouhou · 3 months
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Is Captain Minamitsu Murasa really that bad? Yes, she drowns people, but in Mesoamerican religion one's afterlife is determined by the cause of death, and those who die by drowning go to paradise (Tlalocan). Maybe she's just trying to help you by making sure you go to heaven!
seeing this question pop up right after typing out that long-winded response is fantastic. can we be sure that murasa (buddhist, notably) isn't just trying to help people go to the mesoamerican paradise? it's impossible to know.
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banfrancop · 7 months
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Les dejo mi oración para el altar de muertos:
En náhuatl:
-Ni con in tlahpaloa tlanahuatihke Tonatiuhichán, Cihuatlampa, Mictlán ihuan Tlalocan
-Non huei tlanahuatihke ihuan akime on chanchihua
-Ni con zehlia no tlahtol ipam non tlanahuatihke nemiliztli ihuan mikiliztli
-Ni mo tlatzohcamati ihuan nik tlahtlani in nahuak keman ni kin tlamanilis no cohcolhua
-Iehua non ompahuitze can o chanchihke
-Tonantzi Chihuacoatl ma kin huika non keman o chanchihke ipam Tlaltipactle
-Keman mokaki atecocoli ihuan cocoxtza ieliztli ni kin tenehua no cohcolhua
-Iehua ma kicakica no tlahtol ihua ma con mo tekilika tlan o ni kin onmanili
-No ihua copalpoctli ma kin mititi ohtle ihuan cempolxochitl makin tlahuili
-Ihuan nochi tlan oni kinmanili ma con masehuika ihuan ma casika can mo iek zehuiske.
En español:
-Saludo a los señores del Tonatiuhichán, Cihuatlampa, Mictlán y Tlalocan
-A los altos señores y a quienes los habitan
-Hago llegar mis palabras a los señores de la vida y la muerte
-Agradezco y pido permiso para ofrendar este altar a mis ancestros
-Para aquellos que se encuentran en camino a su recinto
-Que la Madre Cihuacóatl lleve consigo a quienes alguna vez habitaron el Tlaltícpac
-Con el sonido del caracol y el ruido de la naturaleza hago mención de mis ancestros
-Para que escuchen mis palabras, para que se sirvan de mi ofrenda
-Que el humo del copal despeje su camino, que la flor del cempoalxóchitl alumbre su trayecto
-Y que todo lo que ofrendo sea de su provecho, para que encuentren al fin el descanso esterno.
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