#I'm looking at 1860s victorian fashion again

[historical-fashion-polls]

Hello there! Someone asked for some middle- and lower-class fashions, and I think I have an ok resource? This website (https://www.soundsurvey.org.uk/index.php/history/street_cries) has digitised a lot of books that were popular in the 19th century of "old street cries," which documented (idk how accurately) different street sellers and their jingles they would use to attract customers. They have wonderfully lively illustrations of working-class garb, mostly in the 19th century. Some of the books on this website were produced much later than the period they illustrate (i.e. published in the 1860s but about street cries of the 1700s) while others were produced more at the same time. There's a lot of material but the search thingy on the left hand side is pretty handy!

Hope this helps! I'm a big fan of both your blogs and look forward to seeing what variety happens with the fashion polls 💖💐

hello my darling!

thank you for reaching out! and thank you so much for your sweet words 🥰🥰 I'm really glad you're enjoying my blogs!! ☺️☺️

and omg thank you for this fantastic resource! "street cries" were a genre I was aware of, but I hadn't thought of using them to source fashion images, so this is brilliant! 💕💕

the school where I got my masters degree had a really amazing special collections library, and they had a great collection of street cries, chapbooks, broadsides, and other ephemera documenting the popular culture of london throughout the 19th century. and while I was there, they had put on a little exhibition of some of that material, which led me to a chapbook about a sensationalized murder with some really wild images in it. anyway, that led me to develop my final research project for my art history theory class where I focused on depictions of criminals - specifically murderers - in the late victorian london press and the ways in which they constructed the visuality of "criminality." I didn't actually end up using any street cries in that final paper, but I still thought it was a cool connection!

but thank you so much again! I'm very excited to put some of these into a poll!! ☺️☺️

have a fantastic day! 💕💖💕💖

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[telekinetictrait]

"And by the way, Monsieur Marius, I believe that I was a little bit in love with you." (Les Misérables – Victor Hugo, 1862)

next up, the 1860s!! there was a lot going on during this decade, so i once again tried to keep a mix of upper and lower class fashions, as well as throwing in a few more "pioneer" esque dresses. after all, there's only so many petticoats you can wear when your oxen die and you have to walk!

hoop skirts would reach their peak in the middle of this decade, and from there the shape would become elliptical, with most of the "hoop" moving to the back. this would eventually become the "bustle". corsets were still worn, but with the layering and vastness of skirts, the size of the waist would already look smaller in comparison. hairstyles were lower, buns being held at the nape of the neck more often than not. heeled boots were back in style, as you might catch a glimpse of them as fabric moved due to the cage crinoline. near the end of the decade, it became more common to see skirts paired with shirtwaists or blouses instead of matching bodices.

1800-1809 / 1810-1819 / 1820-1829 / 1830-1839 / 1840-1849 / 1850-1859

cc links under the cut!

see resources post for genetics

galateia : buzzardly28's margot hair / nissasims' victorian crinoline

gelsomina : buzzardly28's nell hair / linzlu's fancy bonnet / linzlu's mary louise walking dress

gheta : buzzardly28's 1860s hair #1 / theroyalthornoliachronicles' elisabeth swiss dress recolor

gigi : buzzardly28's penelope hair + hair pearls / simstomaggie's marigold dress

glendora : okruee's georgia hair / historicalfictionsims' ruth dress / kedluu's ankle boots

godeliva : simstomaggie's violet hair + leonore dress

greta : buzzardly28's penny hair / lace-and-honey's linzlu prairie bonnet conversion / johnny149's old west hoop dress recolors

guiying : the-melancholy-maiden's oregon trail bonnet / elfdor's old west teacher's dress

gwendoline : buzzardly28's 1860s hair #2 / linzlu's birthday bonnet / simstomaggie's syndicate dress recolor

gyovanna : buzzardly28's pippa hair / linzlu's fancy bonnet / dzifasims' garibaldi dress

thank you to @buzzardly28 (a LOT of thanks) @linzlu @theroyalthornoliachronicles @batsfromwesteros @simstomaggie @okruee @historicalfictionsims @kedluu @lace-and-honey @the-melancholy-maiden @elfdor and @dzifasims

again, to everyone thats getting tagged over and over: i'm sorry

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[marzipanandminutiae]

I'm new to the historical costuming and historybounding community and I noticed something odd and I wnated to know your opinion about it.

1850s/60s clothes are essentially nonexistent in the community at large. Every now and again, someone will make a Little Women inspired something, but that's it. No one seems to dislike this period, but no one seems to love it either?

Which confuses me so much because I would have assumed it to be one of the most popular styles, the way that the 1890s are in actuality.

Oh yeah, you're absolutely right! It IS rather underrepresented.

My main thought is that it's less practical for potential everyday modern wear than the later 19th century, and therefore less popular. Hoop skirts are marvelous, and not as huge or unwieldy as people like to think, but they're still not terribly practical for most people's lives nowadays. I adore the late 60s/early 70s elliptical skirt and bustle styles, but taking up so much space on the train would get me intense dirty looks at minimum. So I tend to aim a bit later- Natural Form or 1880s/90s transitional.

(Though I admit, it IS rather frustrating that almost every other daily wear historical costumer does 1890s/early 1900s. I want tips for styling a blouse so it looks less Edwardian Shirtwaist and more 1879 Blouse Waist, damnit! I can look at ads and photos and extant garments and fashion plates myself, but I'd love to have living people to compare notes with.)

I can recommend two bloggers who do more 1860s stuff, though: The Quintessential Clothes-Pen (Quinn Burgess) and Plaid Petticoats (Raven Stern). They do other eras as well, but it's not as much of an 1890s washout as popular costubers sometimes tend to be- with no hate intended to those people; that's just what they like to make! Neither of the bloggers I recommended are Everyday Victorian Clothing people, so that might contribute to their era flexibility.

Best of luck in finding your 1860s dream content!

(Also, if you DO want some more practical everyday 1860s, you could try looking at 1867-69; there was a brief A-line skirt moment there that everyone forgets about, but which would be less space-consuming than hoops.)

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[annawayne]

Hello! As a fellow historical fashion enthusiast, I'm always amazed at the care you put into drawing clothes in your art: they always look wonderful, as far as my eye can see, pretty accurate, and they still don't steal the scene from the characters. Much kudos for that.

I don't know if that has been asked before, but I'd love to know what is your main source of inspiration for fashion for your art; if there is an absolute favorite for you in terms of era and garment (in general, to draw, specifically for a character or not); and on the contrary, if there is an era you don't find much interest in (yet) or a garment that you either find more tricky or less becoming for your characters. (Me, I'm definitely partial to 1930s flutter skirts -- I love them. I can't draw them though.)

Aaah, June, hi!

Firstly, thank you so, so much for asking and for appreciating the clothes in my arts! I always do my best to match the whole era fashion as right as possible, so knowing it's appreciated really warms my heart :3

And answering your question, personally, I prefer everything from 1860 - 1950's included. I didn't draw much for Victorian era, just once, and it's a truly shame, I definitely need to draw them more in this! However, within this time period, my favs decades are 1900's (and the beginning of 1910's until WW1), 1920's, 1940's. From 1930's and 1950's I have some favourite details, for example, the same skirts you've mentioned! From 1950's I really love the hats designs!

But as for the eras that aren't really interesting to me, it's 1970-1980's. I would love to try 1970, to be honest, and I have a few vagues ideas, but who knows...

As for inspiration for the clothes for my arts, hm... You know, there's no particular thing, usually I see the art how it should be right away when the idea came to my mind, so the clothes are more or less from this first thought too. As I'm interested in history fashion, I'm trying to study it, so I already have some knowledge about this, and what is left for me after - just to shape it from the thought into the canvas with the lines. I do find inspiration, though, in some vintage bloggers or "old" movies (honestly, I don't really like the word "old" but I'm not really sure how to refer properly to the movies of these decades).

Once again, thank you a lot! Wish you to have a nice day/night :)

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[mrsgiovanna]

The night of 1860. It was summer, and the heat was coming through the halls of the Duke Pericolo's mansion for Bria Adal's debut that evening.

Dressed in pink satin styled in the latest Victorian fashion, Bri stood amongst other young, blushing debutantes, all waiting for the first dance of the evening. The very first dance that would all launch them to High Society.

The conductor raised his baton, the musicians were ready. The music began. One by one, bachelors took the hand of the ladies of their choosing.

Almost all but Bria, herself.

Feeling dejected and a bit frustrated, she turned and simply decided to left the dancefloor when someone, a man with such pure, honeyed voice, called her. She turned, and saw the most handsome man she has ever seen. One who has emerald eyes and a very intimidating stature.

Intimidating and yet gentle.

"May I have the honor of this dance, My Lady?" He asked.

Bria felt her knees acting on their own as she curtsied. She offered her hand to the gentleman, feeling a bit silly under the warm gaze of this unknown noble.

But, who was he?

"Giovanna." The man answered, as if he read her mind. "I' am Giorno Giovanna."

Giorno Giovanna.

You don't mean to say,...

... the Duke of Naples, himself?!

His emerald gaze intensified as he waited for Bria to introduce herself. With a nervous smile she softly replied, "I apologize your grace, I'm Bria Adal,"

"Adal... not a name I'm familiar with..."

"I'd have thought so, I'm originally from here..." the pair had continued their chat for the duration of the dance and had to part when the music had stopped.

"Miss Adal, I look forward to seeing you again..." Giorno departed with a light kiss to her gloved hand, leaving the girl awestruck as she clutched her hand close to her chest.

#omg omg omg #ive been brainrotting over this for so long #tysmmmmm for this ask my friend

[cookidoughlilac]

You ever look at some old timey fashion and just want it

#I'm looking at 1860s victorian fashion again #I just really like them dresses #on the flipside I am 👌 close to buying a tailcoat blazer