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esther-dot · 2 years

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Is it me or is the prophecy a dream Aegon had? The part abt "aTarg must be seated on the IT" is only interpretation/wishful thinking or not? Forgive me, I am not native English, but Aegon's dream appears as a fact and it doesn't include "a Targ on the IT". At least this is my understanding. Am I wrong??? If not, the Targs wreacked chaos for nothing, lol! (a Targ on the throne, another way for M. to throw shade on the Targs and prophecies)

also the prophecy is a double edged sword for targ/dany fans because accepting it as a justification for aegons conquest would mean that they'd also have to accept that dany did not have justification beyond her desire to rule. the prophecy definitely wasnt passed to her, she was in exile (unless rhaegar or the mad king passed it to viserys and he told dany?). or am i wrong?

(about this post I reblogged)

No worries about your English! It's perfect!

I don't know the context for the clip we saw, or how they'll choose to develop this. I'm not into Targ history or the Targs at all, really. In ASOIAF, Dany doesn't mention Viserys sharing such a prophecy with her, so unless there's gonna be a forgotten memory/retcon in her future, it isn't her reason for going to Westeros or believing she must be queen.

I saw someone say this prophecy thing in HOTD was from Martin though (I don't know the sources), and if it is, I think it's possible that he'll continue to give Dany visions in TWOW and that might serve her drive to take KL at all costs, to tie this all together. She has her Rhaegar vision and asks about TPTWP so it's possible I suppose, and since she is Aegon come again, it makes sense to give them to her too only for her to misinterpret them in the same way. She heard Rhaegar mention a song of ice and fire and that’s what was mentioned in the clip, so there are links there in canon that they’re grabbing at. Maybe Dany will get more info in a dream/vision in TWOW. Again, this is all totally uninformed spec, I'm not watching the show and I have the tags filtered so I'm not even seeing all the content the people I follow put on my dash.

I think you’re right though, that there was clearly misinterpretation influenced by self-aggrandizement because that seems to be the Targaryen way. Rhaegar reads something and believes he is the prophesied hero:

"I would hear it from you."

"As you wish," said Whitebeard. "As a young boy, the Prince of Dragonstone was bookish to a fault. He was reading so early that men said Queen Rhaella must have swallowed some books and a candle whilst he was in her womb. Rhaegar took no interest in the play of other children. The maesters were awed by his wits, but his father's knights would jest sourly that Baelor the Blessed had been born again. Until one day Prince Rhaegar found something in his scrolls that changed him. No one knows what it might have been, only that the boy suddenly appeared early one morning in the yard as the knights were donning their steel. He walked up to Ser Willem Darry, the master-at-arms, and said, 'I will require sword and armor. It seems I must be a warrior.'"

"And he was!" said Dany, delighted.

(ASOS, Daenerys I)

It’s all very Targy, and seems to always lead to the same thing: death.

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I loved that last snippet you posted! Though that does raise some questions, namely abt Grima. Him sometimes posessing/controling Robin is already cool, but what changed that he can do that? I'm super curious overall how he fits into the story, could you tell us a bit about him here? Like, you talked before how he was worshipped as Plegia's protector, and I'm curious abt how his character developed in this world

I’m so glad you enjoyed it I’ve been mulling that particular scene over for a while and trying to figure out how to write it, so I’m glad it turned out well!

but oh my friend i am always delighted to talk about grima c;

One thing to note from the outset is that we’ve actually seen Grima before. Twice. And even when Grima’s influence isn’t at the fore, there have been moments when Robin’s reactions weren’t necessarily his own. Grima is a constant presence here, subtle, just out of sight – and it all traces back to events in the last few millennia.

So this requires some delving into ancient history. A lot of things remain the same from a general timeline standpoint (though I don’t follow the Accordion because I take some issue with its progression of events; this ended up being a pretty solid breakdown of how I see the chain of events), but a few things are notably different, and they become very, very important.

To start with: Forneus didn’t just get divine dragon blood for his experiment. He managed, somehow, to lay hands on a viable Divine Dragon egg – an incredible, terrible feat given the fact that the degeneration had taken its toll on fertility rates and the Divine Dragon tribe had been decimated by the war. He wasn’t just performing alchemic experiments on blood, he had the real thing and used alchemy to modify and manipulate it, which resulted in Grima having the strength and many of the same general abilities as the rest of the Divine Dragon tribe, but with some oddities mixed in (a few things he can’t do that they can, a few more he can that they can’t) because of how that magic influenced his development. In the end, Forneus superstitions and his increasing mental instability made him try to kill his creation when it finally emerged, only to fail and lose the tiny dragon to the darkness of the labyrinth, which kept him safe from Duma’s destruction of Thabes and gave him room to grow until Alm and Celica accidentally broke the seal that let him out into the world.

Because Naga had retreated to the eastern half of the Archanean continent following Mila and Duma’s exile (due in large part to the fact that she couldn’t maintain life in the desert without Mila’s assistance), the creation ended up settling on the western side. His presence caused disturbances in the normal weather patterns, bringing more rain to the dry landscape, and soon enough the struggling desert populations began to flock to the dragon and establish a greater presence. These first humans called him Grima – and once he realized that it was their name for him, he began to respond quite readily.

Besides making life easier from an agricultural standpoint, Grima also offered humans shelter and protection from outside threats, both natural and manmade. He earned his title of “the fell dragon” through his fierce retaliation against those who caused harm to his people and his lands – but in general, he was a very calm, reasonable dragon who let people do their own things and just liked to watch, frequently doing flyovers of his territory just to see what they were up to.

Unfortunately, Grima never stopped growing. He just kept getting bigger and bigger as the centuries passed, until finally Naga couldn’t possibly miss him. Despite the fact that he showed no signs of degeneration and was by no means a threat to her people or his own, she judged that the risk he posed should he succumb to madness was too great – so she made her bond with her Chosen human and went to war with the fell dragon.

Now, Divine Dragons with that much power tend to have some strange abilities. Naga, for example, can hear the prayers of those who reach out to her (according to Nah’s support conversations with Morgan). Grima, being a full-blooded (if somewhat strange) Divine Dragon, had his own set of talents, though he understood them rather poorly – namely the ability to read the thoughts and hearts of those he could lay eyes on. And one look told him all he needed to know about Naga’s Chosen: he was, indeed, a powerful man – but he was also cruel and self-righteous, and Grima knew that if he won the battle then Grima’s people would be in great danger. And with Naga’s backing, the fell dragon’s chances of victory seemed slim at best.

So Grima turned to the people closest to him and granted them a small boon: not a full blood bond, the way Naga had with her Chosen, but a small fragment of power to help see them through the troubled times he feared would come. That gift was intended to help protect the people in his stead – and from there, Grima charged them with gathering as many as they could and heading west, away from the battlefield to come.

Grima had no army, when Naga and the first Exalt came. Grima fought alone, and fell alone, in a desperate attempt to save his people.

And that should have been the end of it. But what Grima didn’t know, thanks to his poor understanding of his own powers, was that the blood boon he granted those people would endure, passed down from one generation to the next over a thousand years. He didn’t know that a cult would form within the faith dedicated to his name, devoted to restoring the fell dragon’s blood to its full might. And he never, ever expected that there would come a day when a babe bearing his Mark was born into the world.

Grima felt it, when Robin entered the world. His body was dead and turned to nothing but bone and dust, but after a thousand years his soul suddenly had a physical connection to something, grounding him somewhere rather than simply existing formlessly and watching the passage of time. Grima has been there as Robin grew up, has seen the world close-up for the first time in centuries…and has realized, too, the dangers in it for not just the people he left behind, but for this child who bears his blood.

That connection is a strong one, and the fact that Grima’s soul is bound so closely to Robin means that things can bleed over between them sometimes. Grima has a visceral reaction to Falchion, for example, because he remembers the blade that took his life, while Robin interprets the sudden surge of emotion as fear at where things are headed. More often, Grima uses that bond to interact with Robin (though he interprets it as just mentally debating with himself, and Grima’s happy to let him think that), or to channel power to Robin when he needs it, giving him a surge of strength or magic to get out of a tight spot (basically I headcanon that Ignis is actually Grima lending Robin power in battle). But when things are dire, and something Robin loves is at stake, when he loses himself to panic or fear or rage – that’s where Grima will step in to ensure that Robin does not lose that which he holds most dear.

Grima’s careful about this, of course, never actually pushing Robin aside and possessing him completely. They exist in parallel – as though Grima has taken Robin’s hands and begun to lead him through the steps of an unfamiliar task, affording them incredible power with Grima’s focus to make the best use of it. That is a lot of energy to channel through a human, though, and it takes a serious toll on Robin’s body – he’s not kidding about the burning analogy, that much energy puts his every system into overdrive to increase his speed, his reflexes, his strength, his magic – meaning that even at his very best, Robin can only sustain Grima’s full might for about five minutes, ten if he really pushes it (and then his recovery period is significant).

(Fun note: the first time that happened, it was completely by accident. When they stumbled across that burned battlefield, Robin’s horror perfectly mirrored Grima’s own, and the resulting resonance pulled them into parallel with Grima getting his first actual taste of interacting with the world through a human body. It was Henry that jarred them both out of it, and pulled Robin back to the fore while Grima ceded control.)

Ultimately, Grima has no interest whatsoever in returning to the world. He’s content with the way things are, and being able to watch things the way he used to (actually it’s better, since he can get closer than he could in his flyovers); combined with the fact that Robin is intent on keeping Plegia safe for his own reasons, Grima is more than happy to lend him power when he needs it – and is actually quite pleased by Robin’s very peaceable nature, and the way he resorts to violence only as a last resort rather than fighting first and asking questions later (since Grima himself attacked only after the first enemy blow had landed).

And as a final, random note: Robin can read people the same way Grima could, though not with the same clarity (he can’t actually read minds, but he gets very strong impressions when he interacts with someone for the first time). Grima himself still has that ability, though, and when he’s at the fore he can get the full measure of someone from a look and then leverage it to its full advantage.

#fire emblem: awakening #fanfiction #headcanon #grima #robin #assassin's creed: awakening #answered #anonymous #can you tell i've thought about this a lot #i've thought so much about this #and honestly i love grima's moments of influence #both taking greater control and just lending support when needed #grima's happy to offer up power when robin reaches for it #it just took robin a while to learn how to make that contact

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