#I’m actually calling racism

[b0tsbby]

Someone on TikTok said there’s only like 4 Dolph Laserwork fans among the CL fanbase and it made me throw up so err reblog this if you’re a Dolph enjoyer I’m tryna find my people. (And trying to prove there can’t possibly only be 4)

#I’m kinda mad #because more people like that Racist Red POS #like #HELLO?? #he’s a funny villian ngl but to unironically like him is crazy to me sorry #captain laserhawk #the way it’s literally impossible to get the attention you deserve as a protag of colour #and he’s even gay like #“we want more diverse protagonists #‘Make your own characters of colour’ #and then when we do it’s crickets #I’m actually calling racism #dolph laserhawk #I love you Dolph I won’t forget you

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

ngl the "im white so i dont talk abt any characters' race ever bc im afraid of accidentally saying something racist" approach to fandom is like. very weak. imo.

like first of all: i get that "i dont incorporate race into my media analysis because i'm afraid of messing up" comes from a different place than "i don't incorporate race into my media analysis because I Don't See Race 😊 there is only The Human Race." but it has the same functional effect, right? that effect being that your analysis of [INSERT MEDIA HERE] ignores the very real way that race impacts people.

second of all: it feels kinda lazy! like ur saying "i dont know enough abt race to feel comfortable commenting on how race affects this show and i dont care enough to learn." the only way to become more comfortable discussing race is to actually practice discussing race. but when i see people saying this it feels like they're saying "i'm white, which means i don't know how to talk about race, and i don't have to know how to talk about race, and i don't ever have to know how to talk about race, so i'm choosing to never learn how to talk about race."

third of all: just because you don't openly talk about race doesn't mean you're any less likely to accidentally say or do something racist. implicit biases run deep, y'all. it's probably already there in your interpretation of the show. but the "i don't want to accidentally say something racist" implies that you are positive that your interpretation of the show isn't racist. and i'm not saying you're wrong. but i'm saying that if a person of color tells you that something you said about [INSERT MEDIA HERE] was racist, you better be prepared to actually listen and not just brush them off because "i can't be racist! i purposefully never talk about race just to make sure i'm not racist!"

which brings me to my final point: if you do accidentally say something racist... literally just apologize. if someone says you've been doing something racist, apologize and stop doing that thing. it's literally not that hard. i've done it. i've seen other people do it. "i'm scared of being called racist!" is such a weak excuse im tired of it. getting called racist is not the end of the fucking world. calm the fuck down and grow a spine. jesus.

#mine #ofmd fandom crit #txt #og #it feels like ppl who say this are the kind of ppl who think being accused of racism is worse than actually being racist yknow? #idk i was scared of being called racist when i was like. 13. #now i’m like “if i get called racist it’s probably bc i’m doing something racist” #with the exception being ofc when an anon tells me i’m racist for shipping blackhands (a thing i dont even do) #anyway i am SURE someone has made a post or even a wholeass Article abt this before that’s better than what i wrote

[electric-friend]

wait hang on 😭😭 are people seriously debating “he’s a complicated man” right now??

i agree that izzy’s an unreliable narrator, and i think that some of the things he’s said about ed aren’t necessarily true, much as many other things he’s said are also not necessarily true. he’s not really aware of the full picture the whole time, poor duck, as much as i adore him.

but like… besides the fact it really doesn’t have anything to do with wether or not you think izzy’s doing complex evil shit to ed on purpose, and people seem to be making it about that…

ed is VERY MUCH a complicated man. as someone who relates to ed probably more than stede or izzy… he’s absolutely a complicated man. ed can be violent, and suicidal, and he clearly experiences some form of emotional dysregulation, and he’s done things to people that weren’t justified. the crew was traumatised by ed’s behaviour and how much violence he placed them in a position to commit.

the way ed responds to rejection is so violent and out of proportion, his consecutive raids, his suicidal antagonism towards the crew… and for me and my personal issues, that’s extremely relatable… but it is NOT mentally well behaviour.

ed also exhibits patterns of disordered alcohol use, and his anger often causes him to lash out (yes, often at izzy who pushes his buttons, and yes, izzy’s behaviour is a factor in this. but it’s also worth noting ed has agency as a character and his violence is still violence, provoked or not) and one of his most integral traumas is how an act of violence saved him from the violent alcoholic who was his father.

there’s nothing about ed that’s not a complicated man. he’s done bad things that weren’t justified. that doesn’t make him a bad man. it makes him a complicated one. it’s very clear he knows how to be a better person. and that he can be. that the show left out a lot of that journey is really disappointing, but ed feels like he’s a monster and he does bad things to become the villain he thinks he deserves to be treated as, you know?

he is SUCH a complicated man. that doesn’t mean he’s irredeemable or bad, it doesn’t mean there’s a moral obligation to dislike him either. none of that’s the case. but izzy got it right when he called ed complicated. i think in some ways izzy had finally realised that he wasn’t always going to understand ed because ed wasn’t always going to think the way he did, but he was coming to accept that he didn’t need ed to be someone he could understand as long as ed was happy? does that make sense? i know that’s a sappy outlook on a canonically toxic relationship but i just cannot believe that there’s a genuinely widely accepted take going around which boils down to people thinking it’s wrong to call ed a complicated man. like, huh???? girl….

#izzy hands #ofmd critical #i mean the thing is that often when people point out how ed has moral complexities he’s done bad stuff #that he wasn’t necessarily justified for but he’s ultimately a sympathetic character #who can be a much better man than his father made him feel like he could #they’re often criticised for that #and particularly for the use of the word “violent” given ed is a man of colour #even though ed does do violent things onscreen #but the people who believe racism is holding ed accountable for his own actions #and suggesting he has agency outside of responding to izzy or being infatuated with stede #start to say it’s wrong to call ed a complicated man… dude. #WRONG TO CALL HIM C O M P L I C A T E D #i’m just saying 💀💀 #how are more people not deciding that THAT is racism actually #why are we dehumanising ed by insisting he doesn’t have complexity and hasn’t done bad things ever #like guys. why the fuck are we doing that???

[lockandkeyhyena]

So so sorry if you've answered this before [or if you just didn't wanna talk about this] but I noticed your part is absent from the Primadonna Spottedleaf map? Again sorry if this is overstepping bounds but I'm just curious if you knew about that

all good. got kicked for supporting bi lesbians i think. they just said ‘because of the drama’

#which is weird because they supported me previously #gonna say it. #tons of wc creators have no spine. i really tried to understand not wanting to get involved in ‘drama’ #and prioritising your participants #but it got to the point where people who agreed with me would still kick me from their maps to sate the rabid callout culture #anyway. can you tell i’m bitter? i’m very bitter. i put in free labour for so many maps and while it is within a host’s rights to kick #whoever they want. its also within MY rights to be bitter about it #sorry lol. rant over #ignore me #anyway it would be nice if people were this aggressive about the people who raided my servers calling me and my participants racial slurs #but i guess racism just isnt as big of a deal as random bullshit queer infighting #OKAY #SORRY #RANT ACTUALLY OVER NOW #yeen rambles #ask

[starlooove]

I think the funniest thing is like the og argument matters less to me than the fact that white people immediately jumped to racism. Like if you had shut up and rolled your eyes at the addition it wouldn’t have been nearly as ironic as going ‘you blacks are so dramatic don’t you know I reblog about how black squares aren’t enough and am aware that white people marched in 2020!’ Or ‘if I called you a nigger you’d get mad huh?’ literally proved the point. AND THEN acting all nonchalant about it literally proves the committing to the bit racism post that y’all didn’t even see because that one was too black for y’all

#like Im not surprised this is exactly what happens when you tell white ppl that their racist grandparents might’ve passed racism down #and that knowing it’s bad to have a confederate flag isn’t enough and microagressions are real #actually that’s too specific a comparison #this is just what happens when you tell white people things they find fun are indicative of different societal environments #like those tags were so chill too #literally the nicest way to put it and they got pisseeed #white ppl calling black ppl sensitive after ‘i dislike the implications of this poll’ made them go ‘fuck you I hate you I’m not racist’ #oh and this isn’t me saying the og didn’t matter to me #Im just saying I’m like #well not surprised #im surprised y’all don’t see it actually #like Im surprised you thought that out responded and went haha this will prove I don’t care 😏 #this will prove em wrong!

[biggameplayertrentaa]

people forgot that post in support of mendy too quickly for my taste... none of his actions excuse the racism he's facing, nothing could ever excuse it, but no one can convince me he's a good person after certain things he's done

never once did I say he was a good person. I dislike him for his actions on and off the field but nothing excuses blatant racism. Two things can be true at once; vini is a shitty person and he also doesn’t deserve to be racial abused.

i’ll continue to speak out against racism no matter who it’s directed at because there’s no room for that in this game. being black and existing in predominantly white spaces is something i’m too familiar with. it’d would be hypocritical for me to pick and choose the racial abuse I want to shed light on.

vini breaking down brought more awareness to an issue that has always been prevalent in this sport. The only thing is, this is the first time I’m seeing the conversation go beyond certain social media platforms. Amplifying his message/story does nothing but protect other black players

#like I said previously #I can give you some reasons to hate vini #i’m actually co president of that hater club #second only to ronald #but racism is something I experienced and witnessed in this sport #so ofc I will speak in support of his call for no racism #I can also hate him with my whole chest #it’s called versality

[theresa-of-liechtenstein]

man i’m still so hung up on the way that this professor handled music in the philippines. there were Choices made and though i agreed with a few of them, i found most of them straight up fucking baffling and it was disheartening to not feel heard or invited to contribute to the discussion despite this subject matter being uhhhhhhh my fucking lived experience just because i didn’t pay a twenty dollar membership fee to the fil-am org

#if ppl actually walk away thinking kulintang = progressive and rondalla = conservative i’m going to scream and bite things #BARELY touched on actual music happening in the philippines. most of it was fil am stuff #like sure apo hiking was mentioned but THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE #and it was to juxtapose american junk with something a child of the diaspora made #which was filled with like AAVE appropriation and was mostly in english like hello? #and the point was ‘see this is male dominated and the new one is intersectional feminism’ YOURE MISSING THE POINT #OH MH FUCKING GOD #AMERICAN JUNK SUCCINCTLY CRITICIZES AMERICAN PHYSICAL AND CULTURAL HEGEMONY #ITS FRUSTRATION AND LAMENT AND RESISTANCE BUBBLING UNDER OUR ‘FRIENDLY FACES’ #the new song the fil am woman made covers WAY too much im sorry #i couldn’t understand it and i showed it to my parents and they were like we don’t understand this either lol #half of its not even in any dialect of filipino language #so we’re appropriating Black American art—music created by another oppressed group—and calling it SEA music. cool cool #the only thing i liked was this assigned book i need to finish it but it criticized the activities of fil-am uni orgs #it helped me verbalize just what put me off joining these group #NOT EVEN BAYAN KO. WE DIDNT EVEN TALK ABOUT BAYAN KO? #AND NO ASIN EITHER I WAS SO MAD #UGH i’m glad we’re done with this unit i was really really disappointed by it #NO WAIT THE FUNNIEST THING IS WERE GONNA CALL BAYANIHAN DANCE COMPANY CULTURAL APPROPRIATION #BUT WERE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW FIL AMS CASUALLY APPROPRIATE BLACK AMERICAN ART WHILE ANTIBLACK RACISM IS SO PERVSSIVE IN THE COMMUNITY #HELLO?

[veone]

One day probably soon yoonie will no longer irritate my soul. I learned the hard way on not moving with my first instincts and giving people the benefit of the doubt. Will say if I follow you could do you me solid and tag him so I can block the tag 😂.

#I kid but I’m like ready to not be annoyed #corpse fucking sucked and sucked the air outta the room and being in space full of stupid ass self righteous white peoples using anti black #ness and condemning racism in the name of all black people to get some damn enjoyment outta fighting fucking people to be morally superior #is disgusting I really don’t care for non so and so to be calling out and informing folks about a race ain’t your fuckin own it’s come #across really disingenuous and preaching #like I knows you guys aren’t thing to be weird but it very hard to see that with the way people are online #it’s my thing I’m working on #appreciate the culture outside of some tragedy or to inform people it come across a little better like you actually give a damn

[ickypuppi3]

ST fandom (and writing most of the time) reeks of white saviour complex and privilege

this.

#people in the st fandom are classist and ableist as fuck #and they love ignoring poc characters and actors unless they can use them as some sort of ‘gotcha’ #when they don’t like something else #asks #it’s actually so fucking wild #so transparent too #white saviour complex is so fucking real #they literally don’t give a single fuck about racism in the real world #they only wanna be the moral police online because it gets them attention and brownie points with the other kids they talk to #it actually angers me so much #using things like racism as some sort of buzzword #while doing nothing to actually educate themselves on anything in the real world #which is where the privilege also comes in #because they don’t have to educate themselves #it’s not important to them #the way i hate the st fandom so much i’m literally not a part of it #i take my characters and leave #this whole thing is a massive issue in the fandom #poc fans have literally been called slurs for liking billy #performative activism at its finest #i’m absolutely white btw #if that wasn’t already known #but yeah #leaving this in the tags because i’m not trying to talk over anyone #but if anyone wants to rb and talk about this go for it ! #also the writing part is so true #i can’t get into it in the tags but yeah #fuck the duffer brothers

[persephonaae]

One of these I’m gonna write out all my thoughts on Greek mythology as it exists in the modern lens — as a Greek person who grew up with these stories being very important to me as well as an autistic person who has a special interest they’ve put a lot of effort and actual research into — but also I kinda don’t wanna since I feel like despite my efforts to unify different aspects of mythos, religion, and storytelling, instead all it’s gonna do is grant me the anger of classicists, Hellenists/pagans, people who’ve fandomized myth either by the canon* stories or through some interpretation/piece of media, AND other Greek people because all of these groups would literally prefer to be at each other’s throats than to find any sort of common ground fjjdjsjskjfjf

#one day I’m gonna write the post then shut off my phone for a few hours #something something don’t have to like how another person interacts w myth but like don’t go for their throats fjjsjsjf #can’t believe the amount of other Greek people I’ve seen clowning around too like come on. #you only have so much ‘authority’ over your myths when you don’t care to really dig deep into our culture and history #‘bluh bluh I’m Greek so I know more than you’ bitch shut up and read some Greek history and probably go unlearn your racism while ur at it #anywho the asterisk after canon was bc Greek mythological canon is. I mean. it’s hard to define. I really do not like calling #something necessarily canon bc there’s a lot of things to consider but yea #and by ‘the canon is loose’ neither do I mean tho shit like ‘oh Persephone actually wandered into the underworld herself!’ #but. I digress. my long winded post is for another day

[thedreammweaver]

The way that y’all will unironically stan canonically racist white characters, and then act clueless when people are uncomfortable

#this is about b1rdie j@y #and B1lly H@rgrove #and m3rle d1xon #I’m guilty of that last one but I was a child with internalized racism issues #if you’re a grown ass adult thirsting after a man who called a black person ‘spearchucker’ as well as the actual n word #don’t fucking talk to me!

[rahabs]

Honestly though some of the things people consider “racism” these days like… Some of you need to go outside and touch some grass. Not every offensive comment is racism, and not every comment that offends you is racism. I’m not saying feelings aren’t valid in their own way but it’s important to remember that just because you feel a certain way or you’re upset or offended doesn’t actually mean you’re right about something or that whatever upset you is therefore inherently offensive/racist/etc.

#It’s actually wild to me? #And tbh cheapens actual racism. #People want to be victims so bad because they think it shields them from criticism but it doesn’t! #And I’m tired of people saying ‘that’s racist’ to things that aren’t racist and everyone because afraid to call that behaviour out. #*everyone being #Feelings are valid but just because you feel a certain way doesn’t mean you’re right and we’ve forgotten. #Actually I’m going to put that in the body of the post. #And like. I am saying this as a native woman who has experienced genuine racism. #Not just ‘wah my feelings are hurt’ but called a Squaw to my face/etc. #I’ve sat down at dinners and have had people (who thought I was Middle Eastern) just spew the most hateful stuff about natives thinking #*I’m another ethnicity. #Some of you are just so perpetually defensive though that you take everything as an attack. #That’s not cute and I’m over people defending it. #For the record I’ve also experienced genuine racism from people thinking I’m Arab/Muslim. #I put a scarf over my hair to protect it from a snowstorm for a recital once #And a man started screaming at me for being a ‘raghead’. #Another time a man in Dublin yelled at my mum and I and called us ‘f*cking Cambodians’ and told us to ‘get out of my country’ #(Note that NEITHER of us look REMOTELY Cambodian even though we are obviously not white.) #So I know what racism is. #But not every mean thing someone says to me is racism. #I also don’t thinking asking someone their background is inherently racist. #It’s natural to be curious and I know I present incredibly ambiguous. #I just! I think people just want to be offended.

[rivetgoth]

I feel like part of what’s kinda wild to me about the weird “born in the wrong generation but in an alternative 80s punk goth queer way” crowd that idolizes this nonexistent 80s that was like a goth alt GNC queer safehaven is that without fail every time I actually talk to older goths or other older alt people or even just older queer or nonwhite people who were actually there in the 80s they’re IMMEDIATELY like “oh you were NOT missing out hahaha.” Like at best the coolest things they’ll talk about is getting to see some OG alt bands live in their prime or getting to see a cool movie in theatres, that IS genuinely cool, like major jealousy to anyone who got to actually witness Skinny Puppy or Ministry live in the 80s ykwim, but literally ALL of these people will then immediately start talking about how much people sucked, how much mainstream culture sucked, etc. It was literally Reagan-era AIDS crisis. Dystopian literature took off for a reason. Racism was a massive society-wide issue. War on drugs was in full swing. Even just the insanely racialized pushback against disco during that time is of note tbh. Massive brand commercialization was getting worse and worse. Whenever I talk to gay people from that era they express so much relief about how much the world has improved since then. I was talking to an older woman in her 50s who’s been in the goth scene since the 80s who was saying that back in the day if she went out dressed in her goth clothes she was called a faggot on the street. I remember her jokingly being like “well at least they were saying it to me and not actual gay people I guess haha…” There are aspects of 80s culture, especially 80s subculture and counterculture, that I really really enjoy, obviously, and certain sentiments surrounding big art trends of the time that I love, but it’s just kind of ridiculous to me that YEARS after collectively mercilessly mocking the trend of white girls saying they miss the 50s while ignoring the fact that Stonewall and the civil rights movement hadn’t happened yet, no-fault divorce didn’t exist, and lobotomies were still acceptable, I’m seeing posts nearly daily on this site that are like “well if I had been born in the 80s art would be good and music would be good and there’d be a queer alt community for me, but instead I was born in the tiktok poser generation 💔” like girl I’m sorry but you ARE the tiktok poser. Get offline and go FIND your community. Your issue is not that you were born in the wrong generation, you literally just do not know how to find modern underground subculture. Because it is underground.

[ains-disco-spam]

Thoughts on Lena

The first time I played through Disco Elysium, I talked to Lena right after Kim joined my party and immediately got the dialogue option where she says something racist.

Because of that, I was iffy on her from the beginning. But I’ve seen a lot of people say that they actually didn’t know about this dialogue or that they didn’t get it on their playthrough. Whenever I see this dialogue mentioned, there are always a lot of people saying how disappointed they are that she would say something like that because she seems like a nice old lady.

I think that this moment is actually one of the most important depictions of racism in the game. Besides this one instance, Lena is friendly toward you and Kim. If you call her out on the implication that Seolites are a different species than her and Harry, she basically says that being a different species isn't a bad thing because white people have earwax that smells and Seolites don't.

The whole interaction is such a small moment within the game, and a small part of her character. It’s so easy to miss. And that is exactly how racism works.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been talking to an older person who seems kind and then all of a sudden they say something extremely bigoted out of the blue. I actually got the idea to write this after the nice old lady who is a custodian at my job said something transphobic in front of me and it totally broke my heart.

It’s easy to condemn a cross-burning KKK member or a homophobic preacher who says that all LGBTQ+ people will burn in hell. It’s a lot harder for people to condemn bigotry when it comes from people that they otherwise see as kind.

But most bigots are not like Gary the Cryptofascist or Measurehead. Most of them are like Lena. They are the uncles who think that “if people just cooperated with the police then they wouldn’t be shot.” They are the classmates who make fun of the professor’s accent. They are docile old ladies who think that Seolites are not as human as white people are.

And that makes it harder for people to see the bigotry within themselves. People can easily tell themselves things like “I don’t want all trans people to die, so I’m not transphobic. I’m just worried for the children.” When the media only portrays bigotry in its most extreme forms, it is hard to see that being a little bit racist is still being racist.

And this is even more interesting because of her and Morrell’s friendship with Gary. He is a self-proclaimed fascist with an extensive collection of racist mugs, but Lena and Morrell still keep him around, presumably because they are willing to overlook his “differing political opinions” because they think that he is a good person in other ways. And because his fascist ideas do not affect people that look like them.

So yeah, I want to see more people talking about how fascinating Lena and Morrell are as depictions of racism in Disco Elysium.

#disco elysium #harry du bois #kim kitsuragi #lena #lena disco elysium

[starlooove]

Maybe I’m too biased to take the bruce Jason mother daughter relationship thing seriously bc like. That could be fun in the same way girl coding could be fun if y’all weren’t too misogynistic to focus on existing complicated mother daughter relationships in DC lmao

#same thing with race hcs #I’m fine with me and mine having them bc IK we’re not racist #but y’all making tim and Jason Asian and Latino stereotypes respectively #or acknowledging Dick is Romani when u wanna fuck him #or only truly acknowledging Damian being Chinese and Arab when it’s time for his white family to save him from racism #like is this actually exploring race and it’s impact on the characters or are u too much of a coward to fully unpack why u ignore Duke and #Cass so much and demonize Damian in comparison to everyone else? #at least some of y’all say u don’t fw us w ur chest #but ppl who like. pretend to be progressive by copy pasting a culture they don’t even know onto a character bc it ‘makes sense’ #fuck u fr #and funny thing is the hc blows up for a week on Twitter and they go right back to openly only caring about whiteness #but their quota is filled forever ig. #like at least some of y’all are consistent the way a vast majority hcs tim as Asian for a day to call him and cass twins and infantilize him #then just go back to favoring their white boy is insane