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quirkle2 · 11 months

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I love Marrow's design 🤍🤍🤍 Does Marrow like cooking or have it not been introduced/figured out the concept yet? What does it and Link think of each other? 👀

marrow has only seen the concept of cooking put into practice by observing the yiga from faraway—and because of that, it probably thinks cooking is exclusively used for bananas (smth he doesn't have access to in the depths unless he steals from the yiga themselves). he's familiar with the concept of cooking meat, though he always chars it when he tries. he doesn't cook very often. i'd say the most creative thing he's ever "done" with "food" is him taking a bite out of the giant mushroom trees VGEYAIV

marrow sees link long before link sees marrow. marrow is very good at going about unannounced in the darkness, and link is a bit of a fumbling silly hylian in the same setting, so marrow actually follows link around quite a lot before he's ever even aware it's there. marrow thinks this new creature shaped like the yiga is very interesting. they bring in new light sources that marrow loves and soaks in gladly—this guy has WAY more brightbloom seeds than the yiga ever do, and he sprinkles them around like he's trying to grow a garden

marrow cannot help but feel there is something disturbingly familiar about the guy. he just never quite gets it, even when link finally does.

link actually reads about marrow before he sees it, too. in the book entries the yiga leave about in their camps, link occasionally sees mentions of "The Echo," described as a creature with the face of the very guy they have a mission to kill. mysterious, skittish, sometimes hostile, mostly curious. link thinks maybe it's some creature conjured up by ganon's gloom, despite some of the conspiracy theories written in the yiga entries

the first time link sees marrow is when marrow willingly comes out into the open. link sees a hylian body with animal-like hindlegs and a tail, concerningly visible bones, and a face that, while partially covered by thicker gibdo skin, is instantly recognizable as his own. he keeps it together outwardly. inwardly, he's freaking the fuck out

it's... kind of disturbing, looking at marrow. imagine seeing a clone of yourself, but like,, Really Fucked Up. think of the general vibes of the famous bonding scene between hiccup and toothless—link attempting to befriend this thing that's obviously not made of gloom but a living creature, and marrow having his general jumpy and untrusting nature constantly overshadowed by curiosity. when link moves too quickly at some point, marrow is scuttling into the shadows and not coming back out. link is left wondering

if this thing was just a creature with a random face that he didn't recognize, link wouldn't be nearly as bothered. he'd just think Wow That Was Crazy and go on with his day, since there's Other crazy shit in the depths to look at. but this thing had his face. that's . not something to ignore

link has no idea who to ask about this. he considers interrogating the yiga, but judging by their entries abt "the echo" they're just as clueless. he asks josha about it instead. josha bursts into ramblings about theories and starts flipping through books upon books of notes, asking questions link hadn't even considered and doesn't particularly want the answers to. josha suggests trying to find this creature again, to study him and learn. link shrugs; yeah aight

link catches onto the fact that marrow is attracted to light, so at some point he just tosses a bunch of brightbloom seeds on the ground and sits in the decaying moss, waiting. sure enough, marrow slinks out from the darkness and slowly but surely worms his way to link until they're a few feet apart, staring at each other

link asks marrow who they are, signing and speaking in case it doesn't understand one or the other. marrow tilts its head. okay. so it doesn't understand both

an obstacle to be sure, but it doesn't discourage him. he lets marrow lead the conversation instead—"conversation" being marrow poking at the lanterns of link's miner's set and watching them wobble and dangle around. link sees his clawed fingers in the light. he decides to be very careful about making any sudden movements

over time, their meetings became more casual, and more frequent. there are stretches of time where link doesn't enter the depths bc he's busy on the surface looking for zelda, but when he does come down, marrow is seemingly always nearby, despite the depths being just as big as hyrule itself

link asks marrow at some point if he knows of a zelda, or where she might be. marrow tilts his head again, crunching the glowing petals of a brightbloom seed between his fingers. ok.

later into link's journey, he starts to realize that he often finds marrow Somewhere near the secret spring of revival; if marrow isn't following along behind him after a while of him being down there, he always finds him at that spring instead. this must be his home, given the decorated lightroot nearby that link hasn't had the heart to activate

link looks at his map one day, and sees that the secret spring of revival is directly below the shrine of resurrection. he thinks about that for a long, long time.

#qktalks #fwoosheye #marrow #SORRY THAT WAS SO LONG IM SO FULL OF EELS #mental eelness #anyway . ty for the questions i love rambling abt him #totk spoilers #tears of the kingdom spoilers #just in case ??

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butterflydm · 1 year

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wot on prime rewatch: 1x7 the dark along the ways (part 1)

spoilers through the end of season one of the wheel of time. I will do a reblog of this soon after I post it, with additional book-related spoilers.

1. This cold open and next episode’s cold open are tied for my favorites. This whole scene with Rand’s mom (not mentioning her name because it was never said on-screen) is just so emotional and epic. What a fantastic introduction to this moment in time and I love the way the episode sets us up with most of the scene and then gives us the last bit at the end, when Rand is admitting the truth to himself. Love how much is communicated in this scene without any dialogue.

2. They have set the bar SO high for, ah, this kind of character in the future. The fighting is great and all the emotion we see on the character’s face is great too. She is SO frustrated. She is just trying to give birth here!

3. After the credits, we’re back in The Ways and Rand started heavily feeding my newly-minted Cauthor shipper heart. He’s so frustrated and passionate about not wanting to abandon Mat. Nynaeve is also insistent on not abandoning Mat and I really love the way that the show has gone with the Mat & Nynaeve relationship.

4. Rand and Nynaeve are, by far, the loudest voices in saying that they need to open the Waygate back up and get Mat again. Egwene argues that they don’t have the skill or the knowledge, while Perrin stays quiet. Moiraine & Lan have straight-up just walked away to let them argue it out (though I’m betting they wouldn’t have walked too far if the ta’veren hadn’t followed them. It would have been SO pointless to show up at the Eye of the World with no potential Dragons at all). I just love what Josha is choosing to do with his face here as Rand fights against the idea of leaving Mat behind.

5. And we start the first of our Emond’s Field interpersonal conflicts here, between Rand and Egwene, as Rand (who has gone from frustrated to simmering anger to forlorn) says that they can’t leave Mat, and Egwene says that Mat’s the one who left them. And it’s clear how upsetting that is to Rand.

6. Perrin takes over Mat’s normal peacekeeping duties by trying to pull Rand and Egwene out of their potential fight and get them to re-focus on what their choices are - they can’t open the Waygate themselves, they can’t guide themselves through the Ways... following Loial (and thus Moiraine) is their only choice.

7. The thing that finally gets them moving is Nynaeve promising to Rand that when this is over, they’ll go and find Mat. So, yeah, the show is setting up some narrative promises here that I definitely hope we get some payout on in S2. Rand or Nynaeve finding out about the Red Ajah going after Mat on Moiraine’s word would create SUCH dramatic fireworks, and feel like a very natural way to break any element of trust that might have been built through that point. And I do notice that, for all that Perrin and Egwene are both arguing to leave, they don’t walk off and leave Rand and Nynaeve behind. Again, this is kinda me going back to that original fight between Rand and Egwene where Egwene DID start walking away (saddling her horse, etc). Not sure if the difference here is in Egwene’s feelings about the situation or if the difference is because now she’s arguing against both Rand and Nynaeve, not just Rand.

8. Even with that, Rand by far takes the longest to actually walk away from the Waygate itself. He stands there and just watches the closed Waygate while everyone else turns and walks away.

9. Moiraine believing that Mat has an inherent darkness in him. :-( But this conversation does set up what Moiraine does in Fal Dara really well. She’s going there knowing that she’s likely going to die. If Mat IS the Dragon, she genuinely believes that the world would be better off without him capable of channeling, so she is trying to fix that in the only way that she believes that she can. It’s misguided in... several ways, and narrative irony demands that it bite her in the ass in S2, but it makes sense, from a ruthlessly logical perspective. And, much like how Rand, Nynaeve, and Mat’s mistrust of Aes Sedai/Moiraine makes complete sense given what they have generally known about Aes Sedai; Moiraine does not know much about Mat! The viewer is in a place of privilege in knowing what these characters are like when they can truly be themselves -- we’ve seen Mat risk his life to save his sisters but Moiraine didn’t see that. We’ve seen what Moiraine personally gave up to continue this fight, but the EF5 haven’t. The viewer is almost always going to know the characters better than the other characters know them.

10. “The one thing that we cannot afford is for the Dragon to turn to the Shadow.” I feel like this is going to get play in future seasons. They’ve definitely already set up this idea as a big theme of the show, and I’m here for it.

11. We get a tiny taste of history about the Ways from Loial, as he mourns the changes that have come over the Ways. We do also get the note that there’s a bottomless pit if you fall off the path.

12. Lan tries to lightly tease Nynaeve to make her feel better and, when that doesn’t work, he straight-out just reassures her that Mat is safer staying in Tar Valon than coming with them.

13. Perrin sees Really Well in the darkness here, which Rand notices. <3

14. Time for a rest break! Loial examines the damaged Guiding while the rest of the group rests (and Lan keeps watch). Resting notes: similar to 1x2, Rand is already lying down and Egwene joins him (though he’s still awake as opposed to before). This time, he welcomes her in for a snuggle as they rest instead of pushing her away. Perrin is watching them, and Nynaeve is watching Perrin watch them.

15. Interestingly, in their sleep, Egwene and Rand move apart from each other. And time for a Trolloc attack! Impulsively, Rand Egwene channels the Trolloc off the path and into the endless darkness. But channeling means that they’ve drawn Machin Shin to their location and they need to leave the Ways ASAP.

16. Attack of the Black Wind! I do think that the change from whispering body horror to whispering psychological horror works well, because it gives us some nice insights into where everyone’s head is at, culminating in another big power burst from Nynaeve which I really like because it’s the first time the Two Rivers’ kids have seen her channel. Nynaeve, Moiraine, and Lan work as a team here (not entirely intentionally) in order to save everyone else.

17. I do have some thoughts on the specific fears we see. For Moiraine: she has been given much more visible doubts in the series than she had in EotW -- at least that she ever showed us ‘on-screen’, as it were. This fear here definitely leads right into her trying to confirm the Dragon’s identity with Min and then placing the gauntlet down in front of the Two Rivers’ crew about how this is a suicide mission for any non-Dragons, in hopes that it would make the real Dragon step up and help keep the rest of the kids alive.

Moiraine has gotten into a place where she is uncertain of the prophecies that she’s been chasing for the past twenty years, where she’s locked into maybe never seeing the person she loves until/unless her personal quest to find the Dragon gets resolved. She’s also had control of the situation yanked out of her hands multiple times already -- with being helpless because of the Trolloc poison, then the situation with Logain trapping her into a place with Aes Sedai politics where she ends up needing to get herself exiled from the Tower, and then one of her potential Dragons just straight-up not coming along. It’s been a rough time for Moiraine.

18. Egwene: impostor syndrome! From what we saw on-screen, I think Egwene genuinely, whole-hearted believed that she was the most likely Dragon Reborn... right up until the Amyrlin Seat called Nynaeve ‘the most powerful channeler in a thousand years’. So this fear that Machin Shin throws at her really plays off that recent moment that we had with her in the last episode, I think.

19. Perrin’s is going to go into the spoiler-reblog.

20. Nynaeve and Lan are both having big internal conflicts about wanting to protect the people they care about and feeling like they’re going to fail. They really do have so much in common!

21. Rand’s first fear that we see expressed here is about his fear of abandonment. Something that I feel like it’s kinda implied that the show is really going to dig into in the future. And it does dovetail well with his second fear that we learn later in the episode -- he has to admit to himself that he’s the Dragon. There’s an emphasis there on how he can’t escape his fate. Those two fears are joined tightly for Rand at this point -- that HE is trapped and that he will be left behind because of that trap. Other people will get to escape the trap of prophecy but the jaws will close around Rand and never let him leave.

22. EVERYONE comes out of the Ways deeply affected by what they heard in there. And Moiraine tries to reassure them but... once again, she gets caught by her inability to lie (curse those Oaths, lol). She can’t actually tell them that what they heard isn’t true, because she’s worried that what SHE heard is true. That she’s leading them all to their deaths. So she has to shift gears and tell them to try to forget what they heard instead.

23. Fal Dara looks cool and I like it. Those are my Deep Thoughts.

24. Lan’s arrival is treated as a ‘welcome home’ but the reception is somewhat colder for Moiraine and the rest. Lord Agelmar assumes that his sister wrote to the White Tower to ask for aid, aid that he says they do not require, but Moiraine clarifies that she’s not here to help him specifically, and only warns him that the Waygate are being used to transport Trollocs. But before anyone can be sent to guard/watch the Waygate, we have the arrive of the distinct figure of Padan Fain.

25. From the conversation between Lady Amalisa and Moiraine, it sounds like Lady Amalisa visits Min for advice (”The Seer”) and her brother disapproves. So when Min talks about people bothering her for viewings, she’s definitely talking about Lady Amalisa, at least in part. This conversation between the two of them also reminds us that Aes Sedai are meant to be loyal to the Amrylin Seat, as Lady Amalisa points out that, as someone who was not powerful enough to become Aes Sedai, her loyalties lie with Fal Dara. This is another change that I feel like gave the show an opportunity to share information with the audience in a way that wouldn’t feel too randomly expositive and would feel more like it is coming out of natural character interactions.

26. This is also when Moiraine (privately) tells Lady Amalisa to send a message to the Aes Sedai in the White Tower to hunt down Mat Cauthon. I wonder, actually, if this is going to come as a surprise to LAN in s2? Maybe even a moment when Lan redraws some of the lines of his own loyalties more towards Nynaeve and her people? Because he was concerned about Mat too (shown both in his conversation with Moiraine and then with his reassurances to Nynaeve later), and he knows how deeply Nynaeve cares about her people.

27. Wow, the scene of all the characters in the streets of Fal Dara actually shows how closely Rand and Egwene’s clothing matches. Their shirts are different shades of blue but the entire outfits vibe together very well -- reddish-brown trousers, something darker covering the hips, blue shirts. And the deeper blue of Rand’s shirt is closer to Moiraine’s jacket, while the lighter blue of Egwene’s shirt almost matches Moiraine’s (hidden until now) shirt underneath her jacket. But especially comparing them to Perrin and Nynaeve right behind them and the differences are glaring! Definitely appropriate! But very interesting!

Something something mirrors foils etc. Also, Egwene does a good job making Rand look as tall as he’s supposed to look. lol, it cracks me up that he sometimes doesn’t look as tall as he should because Perrin and Mat’s actors were also hella tall. Also, by making Egwene’s belt Very High and putting Rand’s Somewhat Low, they’ve put them around the same waistline level, despite the differences in their actual heights.

28. Egwene’s first guess for what’s bothering Rand is that he’s still worrying over Mat. Aww. And only second does she guess the Wind.

29. Perrin super-senses moment #2 - he spots Padan Fain. Nynaeve tells him that it couldn’t be Fain, because he died when the Trollocs came. And I think I will wrap up here, before we get to Min and her viewings.

#wot rewatch #wot #wheel of time #wot on prime #moiraine damodred #lan mandragoran #nynaeve al'meara #egwene al'vere #perrin aybara #rand al'thor

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gunkreads · 8 months

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S2E2 thoughts:

Perrin was having a grand ol' Shienaran adventure, and arguably a pretty fucking good time, until. Y'know. I love how hard they're kicking his whole ass off already. Perrin is a character who's most interesting when he's both miserable and forced into action, and this season is setting that up well so far.

Mat? Chef's kiss. Min bromance is a great way to start off, honestly, and gives her something grittier to do than be Elmindreda. That arc wouldn't work either with her modified show characterization (much more world-weary) nor with the overall tone of the show (much less Looney Tunes). Also, the much-gifsetted "shut, latch, lock, bolt, walk away" thing was stellar. The show is retooling Mat to be more of a legit rogue rogue, rather than just The Most Stressed Man Alive, and it's a pretty neutral choice to me. It's still fun, just different. I like new Mat, just not any more or less than old Mat.

Elayne? Very fun introduction, appropriately cringe. Elayne is a cringe type girl and they did not disappoint. She doesn't know what type of story she's in yet! She thinks she's in, like, Arthuriana (which, technically...) but no! She's about to learn just how hard Sheriam swings. Hopefully she stays silly, because god knows this show could use it. The grittier the show gets, the more ridiculous I expect Elayne to be, because she's truly THE iconic clown.

Nynaeve? Well... once I got over my confusion about the completely new plotline for Liandrin, I thought Nynaeve's presence in this episode was kind of lame. I think I kind of miss the very kinetic way she was kicked around the Tower in the books; the show seems to be taking it a lot slower and more seriously, which is just much less fun for me. It's not.... bad. I just really liked the wacky shenaniganery in the Tower in TGH.

Egwene? More Class President vibes, kinda like it. It's not 100% a direction I'd have chosen, but it seems to capture a type of character trajectory that I feel can cross all the same important themes that I liked of hers from the books. On Egwene's note, actually, I've noticed that they're really trading a lot of the Wonder Girls' red-faced shouting for more... I don't wanna say "whining", but like... griping and moping. It's not bad, it's just much less intense. Again, the show is so much less slapstick than the books, especially around the Wonder Girls, so this is just tone compensation.

Moiraine and Lan? Whatever, I honestly don't give half a shit about what they have going on. Their scenes are entertaining in a vacuum, but I sure as shit was never waiting for the episode to cut back to them. I guess the writers are trying to carry over the whole Stepin nonsense from S1 and use it as a setup for this, but the problem is that Moiraine and Lan's early-S2 arc makes Stepin redundant. They're just doing it again, but twisting it this time. I get that it's supposed to make this one more poignant, but... fuck, I'm not doing my Stepin rant again.

Rand? meeeeeeehhhhhhhhh. The in media res opener didn't really do it for me. I like the mental hospital choice, I like the Selene setup, I like the way they're pacing the madness moments by letting Josha do all the heavy lifting. Seriously, actually, the way they have his madness episodes build up so subtly, as if it's just Rand making conscious decisions, then have it all explode and become clear is really good. On the other hand, I can't actually give too much credit to the Selene setup, since I don't think they've established Rand as a person enough for a new viewer to realize how out-of-character he's acting. I blame the Stepin arc.

Alvaro Morte? Still the MVP.

Two episodes in, S2 is doing a frankly comedically better job pacing its different plotlines than S1 did. It's actually embarrassing to look back at S1 and realize how fucked to death the pacing was.

And yadda yadda, this is one of the best-looking, highest-quality, best-acted shows I've seen in actual decades or maybe ever. In terms of overall production quality, I feel like Elayne if they hadn't taken all her pillows away.

#wheel of time on prime

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I like that they did not put too much prosthetics on the face for Loial. Hammed Animashaun is totally awesome in the role and his expressions coming through makes the character so much fun. Not a fan of the hair, but other than that Hammed does an amazing job and is just perfect as Loial.

Love that little Rand/Nynaeve scene. Their relationship is one of the best in the books, so I am glad they got that little moment. Nice chemistry with Zoe and Josha.

All the Whitecloaks/Egwene/Perrin stuff made me a bit queasy and I had skip forward a couple of times. But Goldeneyes making an appearance was awesome. Valda is a nasty piece of work.

Did anyone else see Padan Fain creeping around in Tar Valon in the Mat/Rand scenes?

Portal stones! Rand remembering Dragonmount! We got Forsaken. All the foreshadowing.

Poor Logain. Alvaro does a great job.

I am going to miss Barney Harris next season.

#The Wheel of Time #WOT Spoilers #Wheel of Time #Loial #Blood calls Blood #episode 5

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shinylitwick94 · 2 years

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Wheel of Time show episode 7 thoughts!

Under the cut because book and show spoilers:

Phew, it’s out there now so book readers can finally relax the spoiler barrier a bit. Well done everyone in working so hard to keep the secret! Hope the non-readers enjoyed the surprise!

I like how they did it. I assumed for the implication is Rand’s known for quite some time now, and that’s been fuelling his tension. If so, it was well handled and Josha proved he could handle it too.

I’m a bit iffy on the Ways and on the soap opera fight afterwards. The ways I’ve always felt pretty meh about even in the books. The soap opera had a few good moments here and there, but felt a bit forced and the dialogue was weird (kind of reminiscent of episode 1). Buuut, I am not completely against the Perrin-is-into-Egwene thing? OTOH they’re all clearly lashing out as a side-effect of Machin Shin, and OTOH, there are hints of that in the book, so it’s not like it’s out of nowhere. And besides, we know where this is going and it’s not there.

Which does make me wonder how show!Perrin’s romantic experiences will impact the whole Faile thing. Maybe the whole kidnap plot will be more palatable coming from the POV of a Perrin who has already lost his first wife.

Mat’s departure I think was handled about as well as it could have been given the circumstances. Moiraine setting the Reds on him was difficult, but something I could see her doing. One change from the book I wish they hadn’t made would be keeping her actually saying to their face “I will kill you rather than let the Dark One have you”, instead of just saying it to Siuan. But that’s water under the bridge.

I LOVED Nyneave and Lan. Sooo much better and more believable than what we got in the books. Loved her following him and the little interaction with the family. And Daniel Henney was just...wow. The equal oportunity fanservice is strong with this one.

Also liked Egwene and Rand’s insufferable break-up-get-back-together stuff. It’s necessary set-up for what’s coming. Looking forward to their next breakup already.

The one thing I didn’t particularly like (contrary to popular opinion apparently), was the cold open. It felt too over the top and sterile and Marvel-esque at the same time. Loved the actress, but the sequence took me out of it. I liked the second scene with Tam much better, but the environment still felt oddly fake.

Anyway, liked this one, maybe a little less than the previous one, and looking forward to our finale! Can’t believe we’re there already!

#wheel of time #wot #wot show #shinylitwick watches tv shows

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