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pixelatedraindrops · 5 months
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Mm I think I'm slightly into makoyuma/yumako.
But I like them platonically. I just love them together in general.
As brothers or friends idc they are the duo ever.
They make me happy 💜
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biggie-chcese · 4 months
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So uh,, what's your thoughts about Viviakou and Kokobolt?
ohhh ok so im of the rare breed that kinda only likes vivakou as a one-sided romance, if a romance at all, because they are so Doomed Yaoi to me.
i think it's very sweet that vivia finds a reason to live because yakou has shown how much he cares. i think yakou looking out for vivia's health is also extremely sweet. but i also just think that Yakou "i threw the entire NDA (including vivia) under the bus, into the heart of enemy territory, with no way to escape the peacekeepers, for a revenge plot" Furio just isn't open to loving anyone romantically other than his dead wife. he'd need a long time to get over her, and he doesn't even live long enough to do it. i like the angst potential. it makes vivia's arc in ch 4 all the more tragic, yet also cathartic when he lets yakou go and helps yuma find the truth.
TD;DR: not a fav, but i 100% understand it and think it's narratively interesting when one-sided on vivia's part.
now onto kokobolt.
ok. look. i get it. i see their gumshoe gabs. i see their bromance. i see desuhiko basically outright saying he'd fuck yuma while yuma is dressed as a high school girl but shhhh details, details and i see why it's popular. but i... i'm a hard neutral on it. like, i like it a little? but for the most part i just kinda feel nothing about them. i think they're at their best in memes and jokes. they're a really solid comedic duo and have a funny, enjoyable dynamic. but i dont care for kokobolt fluff nor do i really see myself enjoying angst of them. like i don't even see them doing the awkward slowburn "i dont wanna ruin our friendship" pining that usually comes with the "best bro friends to lovers" trope because desuhiko would just outright ask yuma if he could hit. which he has already done in canon. the only slowburn would just be yuma saying no thanks until eventually he just says "sure whatever you can hit." like, yuma may be a cringefail loser, but he could do better.
TL;DR: neutral on them but i get it. they're funny tho.
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diamondcitydarlin · 3 years
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what do you think about the arguments that lokius is being queerbaited? I want to enjoy and ship it so bad but it seems like im setting myself up for disappointment
And I can't assure you with full confidence that you wouldn't be. I can't be certain I won't be, though I've personally chosen to enjoy what is there and extrapolate from what we are given, even as I know that historically, statistically, it's best to assume a mainstream depiction of a m/m relationship in a Disney-Marvel production is pretty slim. But then...not nonexistent and, in many ways, the likelihood of it actually going there is higher than it's ever been. So there is that.
I've been independently studying LGBTQA+/queer representation in mainstream media for over a decade now. The term 'queerbaiting' is relatively new in fandom spaces (if we're looking big picture, back into the earliest films and TV shows, some of the earliest shipping fandoms like Star Trek), as I only started seeing it maybe around 2012-2014. It's a term I appreciate, because it represented a switch in cultural thinking from holding no expectations of creatives in Hollywood to large swaths of LGBTQA+ fans gaining the confidence to say 'no, this isn't good enough'.
It also represents the switch in Capitalist approaches to LGBTQA+ citizens, from catering solely to the religious, satanic panic morality by pretending gay people simply don't exist, to deciding that gay fans are in fact lucrative and need to be included just enough to feel inclined to monetarily contribute to a brand. They'll write scenes between characters with intentionally confusing, ambiguous energy, give them moments that are meant to be read into deeply, but rarely, rarely, with any kind of payoff that would alienate homophobic investors. The insidiousness of this tactic is in the fact that when payoff does not happen, viewers can be easily gaslit into thinking that was never the intention in the first place, they were the ones who were wrong in their takes. As I've worked professionally in entertainment as actress, director and producer with rather big capitalist brands I won't mention names of, I can assure you this -is- very much a thing, please stop giving corporations the benefit of the doubt.
There is no clean definition or qualification for queerbaiting, despite how often people want to gatekeep how gay viewers use this term. To be clear though, it is an accountability term before anything else. Not an insult, not an accusation that someone isn't good at what they do, it's a reminder that we're owed more than what we're usually given. If we don't speak out, if we don't label things queerbaiting (when they very much usually are), if we don't demand better we will never, ever, ever get it. I promise you that.
Okay, so now that we've established what queerbaiting is at least in my mind...
Do I think Lokius is being queerbaited? Yes, possibly. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the narrative plays out before I come to a definitive conclusion on my own (yes I'm actually optimistic I say as I put on clown make up), but I'm also not going to deny LGBTQA+ fans the right to feel like that's what's happening and voice their opinions. Anyone tasked with writing/creating content for mainstream audiences has a huge responsibility, in that this content will reach millions of people and has the potential to help shape our culture, perceptions- it even has the potential to help normalize and give broad optics of what it means to be queer and have queer relationships, romantic and otherwise. None of this is as trifling as, 'it's just a TV show', because it's never that simple.
As far as Lokius itself is concerned, the show spent a great deal of time first developing their bond and dynamic before (seemingly) switching gears towards elevating romantically the first feminine-presenting character Loki ran into even though there are some clear, uhm...conflicts with the idea of this actually being a thing. If it becomes a thing. It also seemed to first build a solid, unique platonic bond between the 'fem' and 'masc' character that a lot of gay fans would have appreciated seeing playing out before having them mashed together haphazardly as a romantic pairing, as has been done in media for 50+ years now. That's to say nothing of the fact that the most visible feminine character being forced into role of 'love interest' for a broken main character is one we've had to see play out over and over and over and over again too, poorly. People have a right to feel frustrated about that and voice their frustrations accordingly. We expected more of this show than that. (And yes, I am bisexual, I know that it would still technically be a queer relationship, but please consider the broader history/picture here of queer rep in media and the optics of that against that mosaic, please consider the heteronormative lens that so often claims any and every possibility for itself, please consider the long history of how feminine characters are often used as coping tools and objects of lust before they are treated as individuals deserving of their own development)
Now, again, I want to say that I am not convinced of anything really right now. I'm not taking any of the writers at face value because they are all bound by contracts and NDAs and aren't going to come out and say what the outcome of the show will be, so nothing they're putting out on twitter or in interviews is something I will be taking as absolute truth beyond assuming they're trolling, maybe even have been instructed to keep the pot boiling in the fandom through social media antics. Don't rule it out.
Things really could go either way, but my point is I do not deny the possibility of what this is and I'm certainly not going to gatekeep how other gay viewers feel they're being queerbaited, and I really don't see any reason why anyone else should either.
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amandafoxy1 · 5 years
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It’s not every day that you get to work in a laboratory on Groote Eylandt, a place that I only heard about  during my Help Desk duties at New Directions.  On that point I have to remind you all that as a professional cosmetic chemist I can’t always talk about the exciting things I do, you all must think me super dull. However, thankfully this isn’t one of those ‘ssshhhh’ times and so when the call for ‘HELP’ came in, both myself and the NDA team were onto it because helping businesses grow is what we are all about! That said, this isn’t an advertisement piece I just thought it would be useful for you to know why, how and who was involved, not least by way of showing gratitude.
So off to the bush I went but first a diversion…
  I didn’t really plan to get into the cosmetic industry, have never really been a cosmetic ‘girl’ and being something of a tree hugger feel a groaning awkwardness about the waste and consumeristic nature of the industry I’m a part of.  That said, I stuck at it because I also recognised ‘it,’ this industry, as holding a special type of power over people.  No, not the power that tells women that they are saggy and wrinkly when they are not, that they need fixing, plucking, whitening and scrubbing.  More the side of the industry that helps us express our desires and goals, that invites us to care for ourselves and others, that facilitates some down time and pampering, that reminds us to touch ourselves and others with care and love.  That’s the side that I love and that’s the side that keeps me going.
In order to do that you need ingredients from which to make the products. It is there, in that supply chain, from the soil to the soul that I’m fascinated, obsessed even. It is there that this story goes.
The cosmetic industry is a hungry beast. Hungry for novelty it chews up and spits out any NEW ingredient it can get its hands on in a bid to be bigger, better, faster and stronger than all the others.  I see this all the time and to be honest, it’s hard not to get caught up on it, at least some times.  One year we saw an insatiable appetite for Dragons Blood Extract, next it was Kakadu Plum and then Hyaluronic Acid,  Rose Skincare, Topical Botox Peptides, Papaya Ointments and then Vitamin D skin infusions.  If it sounds exotic, great, if we can get some data behind it from which product claims can be made, even better. Brands are like kids in a candy store just salivating to dive in and taste what’s next and in many ways that’s understandable.
But what are we missing out on when we rush like that?
The market for Australian indigenous ingredients, especially those with ‘bush knowledge’ behind them is strong both here and overseas. Australia is seen as a country of extreme weather and unforgivingly rugged landscapes and as such, our plants have a reputation for being super-potent super-foods (and cosmetic actives).  One could argue that this commoditisation of our landscape first became a ‘thing’ in the early days of white settlement when boats would sail into Western Australia empty and out with a heavy cargo of Sandalwood.  Meanwhile on the other side of this vast island was Eucalyptus which was studied, squeezed, pressed and traded with equal zeal.  Thinking about it, that’s always been ‘our’ thing — we came, we stayed, we stole it.  Too harsh maybe? But really, has much changed?
You can’t ‘own’ Groote Eyelandt, it owns you or at least it feels that way.  The moment you step foot on the shores of this beautiful tropical island you feel part of another time and space, it reminds me of that song…
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….And just like this song, the island means something and has a rhythm and a story that’s as rich and alive as it ever was, either in spite of everything or because of it, I’m not sure that’s for me to say.
From my viewpoint I can see that the islands narrative is complex, not for the feint hearted. Maybe that’s why it’s so difficult to get here and stay here. There’s the croc infested waters, the stingrays, box jelly fish and death adders.  The lively tradition of settling disputes by spears and the black gold that is manganese.  And then there’s the people,  the ‘locals’. People who I recognise instinctively and yet don’t know at all.  People who came here on song lines long ago, who became part of the soil and who grew strong in the shade of the trees they were born under.  They speak Anindilyakwa, a complex rhythmic language that I can’t even pretend to understand but you can feel it when you hear it. It feels like the words sing you home, weaving threads with each sentence that remind you who you are and why you came.
But none of that matters when you just want to capitalise on a bit of the bush.
We drove out onto lands that are under Aboriginal control – that’s true for much of Groote thanks to a 1976 land rights were granted to the people.  The path was dusty,  the corrugated road shook the truck and plants tried to invade our space every time we slowed down, popping a limb or leaf through the open windows. It was warm but not hot on account of it being the dry season, something I was quite grateful for – I feel that humidity is something to be endured rather than enjoyed!
There is no doubting the beauty of the landscape out here and on the day we went, the bush supermarket was quite full!  We picked, scraped and gathered a few bits and pieces to go into the Bush Medicine inspired balms that Bush Medijina are becoming famous for.  I won’t tell you what we picked because that’s not for me to say but suffice to say, every species has its story to tell.
Shopping like this really does ground you. I’m not a fan of shopping usually but if this was my supermarket, I’d be popping down here for a look every day!  However, I’m reminded of another way of seeing ‘this’ as just a series of opportunities for money making.  The proverbial cash-cow.
Some people don’t feel anything much. They can come in, take a sniff around and walk off with everything you own practically without a second thought about their impact. I know people like that and the worst part is that you often don’t even know you are being fleeced until it is too late.  It feels like this place could easily become that, there’s enough here to attract the sharks.
We took our goodies back to the laboratory and set up for the next day, a day where we would put the plants to work again, but this time in the form of their extracts, juices and infusions.  I shared some of my knowledge and invited them to play and run their own experiments with the test products I took along.  There was no lack of creativity or pride in seeing something so familiar transformed into something new, something ‘other’.  There’s so many layers here to explore, so much potential but I think it’s best if they tell you that.
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I trained as a cosmetic chemist in the western tradition of being, doing and thinking.  Before that I trained as a chemist under the same thought regimen.  It may seem like nothing to many people but to me that isn’t nothing.  My nature and nurture only ever match up when I’m out on the land.  What I mean by that is that science, chemistry, education doesn’t make sense to me in its abstract ‘orphaned’ state.  The western way is to divide things up into knowable chunks of power that can be exploited in one shape or form.  It isn’t all bad, this way of dissecting provided a pathway for much closer observation of each individual part than can be seen otherwise.  However, I am constantly reminding myself in my head that we can’t know the true nature of a table by just observing one leg. This feels like that.
My western ways provide me with an ‘unnatural’ perspective on the situation be that ‘situation’ a plant, product or market opportunity.  But another way of knowing dominates here and that is a way I FEEL rather than KNOW.  It’s a way of being that requires you to step into the space fully, surrendering your individualised ego until you breathe as part of the whole.  Now all of this might be sounding a bit ‘oh my goodness woman, did you SMOKE something’ but I don’t mean it like that. Anyone who has met me will know what a blunt speaker and practically minded beast I can be.  However, this is a ‘thing,’ you really can FEEL it.  When you stop trying to take a plant away from its environment, stop trying to pull it apart into this part and that part you get a better insight into it as a whole dynamic being.  OK, OK Hippy Trippy again.  I don’t mean like that, I just mean that things start to make more sense, measurable things like the vitamin C concentration, the presence of antioxidants, the potential oil yield, the plant colour and smell, the reason that this tree is better than that tree and so on and so forth.  Sure we can communicate this in discrete scientific packets but we won’t truly value it until we let it tell its own story.
And it’s there that I leave this.
This place has many stories to tell and the best placed people to tell its stories are the people who grew here and are growing here.
I don’t want Groote to be seen as a trophy place where someone can come and do a drive-by plant heist, a ‘grab-and-run’ cowboy, a bio-pirate.  I don’t want THESE people to have to be satisfied with wild harvesting their green gold while some other fella gets rich on the up-stream. I want THESE people to swim all the way and swim so strongly against the tide of the modern world that they carve their own new song lines if that’s what they need to do. Song lines that bring with them ingredients, products and a sense of value that is so lacking in the world that sits outside of this magical place.  Let’s help them do just that.
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My bush supermarket adventure and the lab work that followed it… It's not every day that you get to work in a laboratory on Groote Eylandt, a place that I only heard about  during my Help Desk duties at New Directions.  
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The One Best Quality Of A Relationship Between A Virgo And Each Zodiac Sign
Earth sign Virgo makes an excellent partner for those signs who vibe with its organized, kind, and hardworking character traits. Even for signs who are a more complicated match, Virgo relationship compatibility will change the way you approach partnerships and leave a lasting imprint on you, no matter how long your relationship with them lasts. With the new moon in Virgo tonight, it’s definitely time to pay homage to what a Virgo lover brings to every single one of their relationships across the Zodiac.
If you are in a relationship with a Virgo, you already know that a Virgo in love is soul-searching and introspective, bringing a wisdom and a grounding force to the relationship. Even when it seems to outsiders like a Virgo is getting too caught up in the nitty-gritty details, anyone who loves a Virgo knows that it’s the practical aspects of life that provide a Virgo with a sense of structure. For signs with less Virgo relationship compatibility, this characteristic might prove a burden to the relationship. For others who thrive with Virgo’s constant search for truth and attainment of goals, you’ll find that your Virgo partner is an excellent companion on your journey through love.
Here are the very best qualities that a Virgo lover brings to a relationship with each sign:
Aries (March 21 to April 19)
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Relationships between fire and earth signs are always unusual, and yet fiery, juvenile Aries matches better with mutable Virgo much more dynamically than one might think. The lasting mark of a Virgo’s relationship with Aries is honesty. Both of these signs won’t be able to help themselves from telling one another exactly what they think. And because of the value that both Virgo and Aries places upon honesty, it’s a quality that the Aries and Virgo couple will come to cherish above all else in one another.
Taurus (April 20 to May 20)
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Fixed earth sign Taurus is ruled by sensual, romantic Venus, which kicks all of its senses into high drive. A Virgo lover will be extra attentive to the little things that bring their Taurus partner pleasure. Virgo is the kind of sign who will make Taurus’ bed in the morning. These two signs are strongly bonded by their relationship to home, food, money, and other materiality. Their mutual understanding of what brings one another comfort and security prepares this couple for the long haul. At the root of their relationship is a strong sense of friendship, which blossoms like a flower from the soil into a partnership that could last into old age.
Gemini (May 21 to June 20)
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Both Gemini and Virgo are ruled by Mercury, which means that Virgo’s relationship with Gemini is determined by the constant breeze of chatter that flutters between the couple, reinforcing their bond and bringing oxygen to their relationship. As mutable signs, Virgo the Healer and Gemini the Communicator will enjoy flexibility within their relationship. These two signs have the ability to work for their love through their mutual power of communication. They will talk on and on and on about how their partnership can become a stronger one, and will be able to constantly make adjustments as they go along.
Cancer (June 21 to July 22)
Why Opposite Zodiac Signs Attract
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In Cancer’s life, Virgo the Healer will be helpful in healing the wounds the tender crab carries from previous relationships. When Cancer gets lost in their watery emotional depths, Virgo will provide them with a grounding force of intellect and logic that will help center them. Meanwhile, Cancer will take care of Virgo on an emotional level. Cancer’s relationship with Virgo works because the two signs trust one another fully.
Virgo helps Cancer practically address life’s stressors by being the one who reminds Cancer to pay their parking ticket on time, for example. And Cancer will provide Virgo with emotional insight and intuition that will help light their way forward through the nitty-gritty, unorganized aspects of life that are out of Virgo’s control.
Leo (July 23 to August 22)
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Leo isn’t ruled by any planet, but by the Sun. This patriarch of the Zodiac expects their lovers to be drawn to their light and their heat and bask in the glow of their company. Virgo, on the other hand, can be critical of Leo’s unabashed self-love and egoism.
A Virgo-Leo relationship is a bit like the relationship between Heath Ledger and Julia Styles in 10 Things I Hate About You. They initially start out as enemies and eventually grow to love each other, with Leo giving studious Virgo a chance to break free from their rigorous work and Virgo teaching Leo to understand that a relationship takes two people. It’s not all about what Leo wants. A Leo-Virgo relationship is the epitome of “opposites attract.”
Virgo (August 23 to September 22)
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When a Virgo is in love with another Virgo, they will enjoy doing everything together. Whether moving furniture, going to the carnival, or cooking dinner, these two will find pleasure in the little things. Their shared sense of commitment and sensitivity to one another’s needs will make sure that this relationship moves at a pace that is completely perfect for both of them. A Virgo-Virgo match might look boring from the outside, but within the relationship, these are two Healers who perfectly understand what one another needs.
Libra (September 23 to October 22)
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Libra is about balance, and that will make their relationship with sensitive Virgo feel secure. These two signs are all about commitment, and they will feel solid in having found a partner who is as interested in the long-term potential of a relationship as they are.
Libra’s calm, guiding force will be the driver of this relationship, but Virgo will smooth its course with their attention to the little facts of their days. A Virgo-Libra relationship works because of their love of structure and balance; in a committed relationship, these signs will feel like two gears clicking smoothly into place.
Scorpio (October 23 to November 21)
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Virgo and Scorpio actually share a mutual dark side: Virgo’s nit-picky attitude is reflected in Scorpio’s watery depths. Where Virgo will wield this trait against others, Scorpio will internalize it against themselves. Scorpio’s self-criticism will lead to anger or depression.
A Virgo-Scorpio relationship will feel karmic, as it provides both signs with the opportunity to investigate the sources of their flaws and work to heal their wounds. This might sound frightening to other signs, but Scorpio has never shied away from the dark. This is a couple who will evolve together. They might not be together forever, but what they learn from one another will last for the rest of their lives.
Sagittarius (November 22 to December 21)
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Goofy, sweet Sagittarius provides levity to serious Virgo. Sagittarius’ strong sense of direction makes sure that they value Virgo’s attitude and commitment to work, as when Sagittarius is completely tuned into a project, they share a lot of Virgo’s ethic.
Both of these signs feel a strong need to rationalize and analyze. They make their decisions based on intellect, rather than going with their gut. Emotionally, this couple will work completely in sync and will usually be in agreement about major life choices. If they aren’t, their divergent paths will usually pull them apart.
Capricorn (December 22 to January 19)
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