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#I also like it bc it's rare they get to be worried about Eliot
firebirdsdaughter · 2 years
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While I’m rewatching it…
… In the s2 premier, that moment of abject horror and distress on Nate’s face before turning around and seeing Sophie. I know they were on super coms, but that expression looks for all the world like he honestly thought Eliot had been shot for a moment, esp in combination w/ Sophie having to prompt him to ‘get w/ it’ and the way he keeps anxiously looking back at Eliot even after he knows it’s a con.
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ofthedirewolves · 5 years
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First Guy Wins - A Queliot Meta
I was rewatching The Magicians and was struck by a realization. Eliot and Queliot fit the “First Girl Wins” romantic trope. Yes, in this case, Eliot is a guy, not a girl but the trope still works.
Credit where credit is due, this is based by @scullylikesscience​ ‘s “First Girl Wins” meta.
When I first realized that Queliot definitely seemed to be the road the writers were going I was a bit cynical. I have quite a lot of experience and have been betrayed by many a showrunner.
I thought the writers had just seen that Queliot was more popular and course-corrected. Then I started my rewatch and realized that as much as the showrunners love claiming they’re winging it, this might have been planned after all. 
It could still be a happy coincidence so I’m not going to give them too much credit. For the likes of this meta let’s focus on the facts and the characters.
We’re going to analyze Quentin and Eliot’s relationship through the lens of “First Girl Wins”
In romantic works, the first girl person introduced — either overall or as a potential Love Interest — has a very good chance of ending up with the protagonist (especially if the protagonist is male).
There are all sorts of explanations as to why this is. Things ending up the same place they started is a very old narrative technique.
From a Doylist point of view, the Law of Conservation of Detail suggests introducing the Love Interest early. An early introduction allows you to get the audience interested in her and rooting for her, gives you space for Character Development, and give her relationship with her (eventual) partner the most time to develop organically.
Eliot gets introduced pretty early, has a lot of character development outside of his relationship with Quentin and Queliot definitely has developed organically.
Is it the first girl the protagonist meets according to In-Universe chronology, even if we first see her halfway through the show's run? The first one to show romantic feelings? The first new girl the protagonist meets?
Eliot isn’t the first possible love interest that gets introduced, that’s actually Julia, then it’s Eliot, followed by Alice in the last place. It is in their introductions though that tells us that it’s actually Eliot that gets the title of First Girl™.   
If you're suspecting some girl is supposed to be the First Girl™, a good idea would be to take a look at how the writer has played her up.
Is he a major character?
Eliot Waugh is one of the show’s leading characters  ✔
Is the "first" interaction led up to, emphasized, treated as a big deal?
We first see him in the background as Quentin walks towards Brakebills. The camera shot is an Extreme Long Shot.
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The camera focuses on him smoking for a bit (Wide Shot) until we see Quentin actually approach.
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The camera closes on him with a medium shot as he talks to Quentin, then it’s a Medium Close Up as he gets down and introduces himself.
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We see Quentin lose his cool and then he follows after Eliot. Asking if he’s hallucinating. Eliot and Quentin are in the same frame until they get to the exam which is where Eliot’s introduction ends.
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This connects Eliot to Brakebills/Magic.  So yes it’s definitely a big deal ✔
All other things being equal, is he a strong contender for being the protagonist's Love Interest?
Quentin and Eliot spend a lot of the first episodes together. The first person Quentin truly opens up to is Eliot (and Eliot opens up in return.) Eliot tells him one of his darkest secrets, while Quentin tells him about the hospital. The person he talks to about his worries re: getting expelled is Eliot.
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In 1x03 Eliot goes to Quentin for help in finding the missing book. Thanks to this Quentin is introduced to the Hedge Witches, not only that but to the fact that Julia is one of them. Which means Eliot is there for Quentin and Julia’s big argument.  This means Eliot has seen both sides of Q’s life (before Brakebills and after).
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In 1x04 when Quentin gets stuck in Marina and Julia’s spell, Eliot is not only in the spell but visibly worried about Q outside of the spell.
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Not only that but we actually see Eliot getting defensive with Julia.
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When Quentin breaks out of it, the first person we see go to him is Eliot. Throughout the next couple of episodes, it seems there’s always a scene with the two of them together. The only time they don’t share screentime is in 1x07 (bc Q is with Mayakovsky and we’ll get to that later).  
In 1x11 they literally have sex. Yes they’re high on emotions and it’s a threesome with Margo but it happened. If you hadn’t guessed by this point that Eliot is a valid romantic choice this made it more clear.
There’s no Straight Guy™ Freakout. Quentin was never written as a straight character. From his first interaction with Eliot, we see that Quentin is attracted to him. The only negative connotation the scene has it that it’s cheating because Quentin was in a relationship at the time.
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Throughout Season 1 a lot of the major moments for Quentin himself happen with Eliot or around Eliot. Quentin might get expelled? Eliot is there. Confrontation with Julia? Eliot is there. His dad has cancer? Eliot and Margo help him out. Quentin gets separated from the group? Eliot sends a paper airplane to tell them where they are. This season establishes that Eliot is an important person in Quentin’s life.
In 2x01 we get the crowning scene between Eliot and Quentin and not only does it have very romantic vibes but the camera shots tell us a lot about these two characters. We get a Full Shot of the whole group before it becomes a lot more intimate.
The speech that Quentin gives Eliot is the longest of all the Coronation speeches. From Eliot’s side, we get Close-Ups. Close Ups show us what the character is feeling at this moment. We see an Eliot with tears in his eyes looking up at Quentin with so much love.
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On his side, Quentin has a Medium Close Up all we see in his eyes is pride. Despite the fact that they haven’t had the best relationship recently Quentin still deeply cares.
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Both of them look at each other. The camera focuses on both of them until the moment is over and the camera turns to Penny and the scene continues.
So is he a strong contender for being the protagonist's Love Interest? Considering this is only a smidge of their interactions? I would say definitely ✔.
(I could talk about all their interactions, especially “A Life in a Day” but then we’d be here all year and I wanted to focus on their earlier establishing scenes) 
The First Girl will rarely be the first one to confess her feelings, admit them,
Pretty much all the romantic interactions between them have been initiated by Quentin rather than Eliot.
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Back in 3x05, we see that Quentin is the one that first kisses Eliot. They live their life together and raise a family.
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In 4x05 it’s revealed that after they got their memories back Quentin put himself out there. We see a Quentin who is sure that he loves Eliot “who gets that kind of proof of concept”. It doesn’t go well for him but he did it.
In fact, he's much likelier to be the one who does it last
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We don’t get the full realization of Eliot’s feelings until 4x05. I think Eliot has known for a while that he loves Quentin, but it's just been implied (few people can heart eye as Hale can). But the reason I mention it is that this is where Eliot realizes he has to do something about it. The ball is in his court.
With his small window of opportunity, he tries to convey his feelings to Quentin while also giving him a reason to fight “Peaches and plums motherfucker, I’m alive in here”.
Complications will abound, Romantic False Leads will show up,
Most of Season 1’s romantic subplot is Quentin/Alice and later Eliot/Mike. The interesting thing is that both of the Romantic False Leads appear in the same episode (1x07). Alice has been there from the first episode but 1x07 is the episode where she and Quentin hook up. Coincidentally the same when Eliot and Mike hook up.
Quentin falls in love with Alice while Eliot is very deeply into Mike. Of course, both relationships end in tragedy. Eliot has to kill Mike to protect the rest and Alice dies defeating the beast. The pain of his actions makes Eliot turn towards substance abuse which leads to him going to Fillory with the rest. It sets him on a path that deviates from Quentin’s.
Quentin’s plot is about bringing Alice back from being a Niffin. Yet when he does she hates him for it. So their relationship fizzles out and never truly recovers.
In Eliot’s case, we also get Idri as a false romantic lead as they did technically get engaged and were clearly attracted to each other.
misunderstandings will arise between them, pride and denial will keep them apart.
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The biggest misunderstanding between the two comes from the same scene in 4x05. Eliot believes that Quentin wouldn’t choose him if they had a choice. He gets scared and so he pushes Quentin away. Eliot mistakenly believes Q is straight so that’s probably the biggest misunderstanding between them. Quentin interprets it as Eliot not choosing him if he had a choice.
The misunderstanding gets worse when we remember 3x06 had Eliot rejecting Quentin’s idea of going on a quest. He has a perfectly valid reason but Quentin probably sees it as another rejection from the man he is in love with.
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They’re both in love with each other but neither believes the other would choose him. Miscommunication is a large part of romantic tropes.
A more subtle tactic is to get the First Girl "off the radar" somehow —
Ironically enough Queliot fits this criterion as well. Eliot is married to Fen (and later engaged to Idri) while stuck in Fillory being High King the majority of seasons 2 and 3. While Quentin is dealing with Niffin!Alice and helping Julia in Season 2, and largely involved in the Key Quest in Season 3.
That doesn’t mean they don’t see each other because they do. They just can go periods of time without sharing meaningful screentime (especially in regards to show-time as time in the show passes differently than how we see it episode by episode).
You can expect an in-universe justification for how these two people met so early and took so long to figure out they belong together.
In Queliot’s case, it’s misunderstandings, romantic false leads, magical quests, their own stupidity, false identities and of course the fact that one of them is possessed by a monster.
The fact of the matter is that Eliot fits pretty much all the criteria for being the First Girl (or in this case First Guy). So whether it was on purpose or just a happy accident it still counts.
Eliot Waugh is the First Guy™ which leads me to believe great things are on the way for Queliot. We just have to sit back and enjoy the ride.
(Remember to pack tissues, as I have a feeling the writers aren’t done torturing us yet)
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kkukkung · 7 years
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Random opinion about Wonho: he's an adorable big-hearted sweetheart that worries about the MX members
that’s not an opinion that’s a fact!!
more asks under the cut 
everyone in monsta x is a princess. wonho? princess protein
i can’t believe he rly defeated btob minhyuk’s natural sports muscles with protein........... i lov my centaur thigh man
For a whole 5 seconds I thought Minhyuk was Himchan
omg.. i guess they do have similar facial bone structure? also the smokey eyes n large gap btwn nose + lips
hi what is your favorite wonhyuk moment where minhyuk is paying attention to wonho and wonho doesnt notice/reciprocate thank u
sdjfg i can’t think of one off the top of my head but i KNOW there are moments.... they’re rare bc generally wonho is good @ responding to minhyuk’s fanservice and they’re very comfy being a lil bit Gay... e.g. minhyuk on idol battle likes going to kihyun first w his... grossness and being rejected immediately and then targeting wonho instead who Accepts It even though he pretends to be troubled?? not to make this abt how cute wonhyuk is but they seem to have an unspoken rule abt... like... doing fanservice w each other idk they just!! love doing fanservice together!! and it’s very comfortable even when it’s deeply questionable to us!!!!! also if anyone has any... minhyuk getting ignored by wonho moments @ me bc 👀👀👀👀👀 hmmm
hey! do you read any mx fic? do you have any fic recs?
(old ask sry this is all out of order jshfg) tbh i read... quite a bit of fic (as in...... i camp on the mx ao3 tag........) but... i haven’t read anything that rly rly appealed to me the way some fics from other fandoms have?? i can definitely give you some more relevant recs if you give me some more... criteria like pairing/au/rating etc.! but generally i enjoy topazios’ writing style, it feels very natural, all their fics are kiho! and i like the mood of this (showhyuk) and this (nc17 showho) by inkquell who i think writes jooheon very well! like... i’m deeply dissatisfied w some of the jooheon characterisation in this fandom jdfhjkg but i think they do a rly good job and all their fics are solid!
what about 10 (or 5 or however many) facts about you & anime/literature? :D
ur so sweet honestly this is so sweet of u here we go
so im rly............ the most pretentious pseudo-intellectual in the world fdjgk but tbh i read more fanfic than i read literary classics and whatnot yikes
my favourite manga is oyasumi punpun and i rly love helter skelter + naoki urasawa’s monster!
last book i read was a collection of short stories by lu xun + i’m trying to read more international lit and slowly get good enough at chinese to read chinese classics :’>
... idk im like... one of those fedora-tipping reddit dudes who think 90s anime is superior........ the original evangelion anime > the rebuild series
arthur rimbaud is like a... symbol??? to me?? like he’s a terrible person but his writing and life philosophy is... very symbolic 2 me
end of evangelion rly changed my life and my notion of happiness
in the last year of high school we studied adrienne rich’s poetry and i fell in love w her writing style + poetic integrity is the sexiest thing ever
there r anime posters all over my room im rly a nerd wtf
fave writers: virginia woolf, oscar wilde, james joyce but only when he’s not being Difficult, camus + nabokov, poets: adrienne rich, sylvia plath, e.e cummings, t.s eliot, robert lowell, audre lorde, shakesy, percy shelley... i like poetry more than prose??
would eat dirt for kaneki ken’s happiness
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