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HES. DECAYING???
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the-owl-house-takes · 8 months
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"huntlow didnt get enough time to get developed properly" true statement, we were all robbed of a third season and a lot of character development and chracter dynamics for many many characters and so on but its irrelevant to me cus i still wouldnt like it if it was properly developed. i know myself, id still be ok w it being part of the series but i still wouldnt have any interest in it and would find ship art equally annoying just cus i dont like it.
"if hunter was with a boy/willow was with a girl-" irrelevant, thats a different ship with a different character. there is no argument, stay on topic.
"bi/pan erasure or something along those lines" it has nothing to do with their sexualities and i dont care about canon or your headcanons or the characters sexualities none of that is relevant i just dont like them together as a ship
"huntlow antis/huntlow haters" be real. people can just dislike stuff without it being a big spectacle. do you think i put huntlow anti on my job resume or my tinder profile??? its not an identity, its just an opinion (also this is a salt blog. why are there sharks in the ocean)
"hunter having trauma doesnt mean he cant love" the grass is green the sky is blue i still dont have to like the ship and i still think hunters trauma takes priority for most people when they make huntlow stuff, maybe idk i have the tag blocked but ive seen some stuff and i see lots of arguments abt this. yes willow can be a rock for hunter but shes not supposed to be his only rock, hunter needing a rock is not supposed to be the only time they talk or interact, and there are ways to talk about hunter and huntlow without making it only trauma-related. i dont like the trauma-unrelated stuff either its still boring to me.
"something about willow idk i feel like people focus more on hunter when they argue about huntlow so i dont actually know any arguments about willow" willow is an underrated character and i love her but i still dont have to like the ship and i feel like a lot of the time people treat willow in general like one of her best character traits is Likes Hunter, or like shes hunters rock to lean on but never spin that around and let hunter be willows rock, and more often than not, somehow???, hunters trauma is still involved in willows insecurities or its used as part of how she heals from those insecurities?? like. can a girl not just say 'im worried about not being strong enough and being a burden' and not get 'when i was working for belos something something i thought i wasnt strong enough and i was wrong so ur strong too' and something like that like. a lot of huntlow stuff is like that ngl.
"just block people/the tags" I AM but like. i can still dislike it. and im perfectly valid in saying i think its annoying when i go to the tags and more than half the posts i scroll through are blocked cus its huntlow. im perfectly valid in saying i dont like ship whether i have the tags blocked or not.
"people can ship whatever they want" no they cant because i said so. the sun revolves around me. god watches me, his special little guy, fart and immediately cries in joy and throws a celebration party. (but also people are allowed to not ship stuff too like. it goes both ways.)
"so what are people just not supposed to make huntlow fanstuff" yes. i never want to see huntlow ever again my life. (but actually dont do that keep making stuff itd be sad if people stopped)
"everything you say is insane" ya
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destielfanfic · 3 years
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from the inbox, #1
From the inbox - asks about canon verse fics, #1
There’s a backlog of unanswered asks in our ask box and since answering them privately takes a lot of time without any guarantee that the answer will actually be delivered, I decided to answer some asks that would benefit wider audience here. Other asks were chosen because I have no recs for them, so feel free to add fitting fics in your reblogs!
Hi! I was wondering if you know of any fics with destiel after everything blows over. Like Dean buys a trailer or a cabin and settles down with Cas or something. (Angst is encouraged) Big fan of your blog BTW
Take a look through following tags - #domestic, #established relationship, #ending, #happy canon. Canon verse fics will be tagged with #SU (supernatural universe) or  sr:su (sbmitted rec: supernatural universe). Here’s a shortish list of fics I am familiar with that fit your criteria but definitely look through the tags, there’s much more!
The Epilogue Effect by aileenrose [M, 5300 word count] (sub rec)
Galveston series by aerialiste [NC-17, 57,000 word count] (season 10)
His Fucking Kids Verse [T, M, 96,000 word count] and it’s follow up fic  Kung Fu Grip [M, 57,800 word count] by 8sword *
In Your Sweet Little Bungalow by annodominique [NC-17, 13,700 word count] (sub rec)
Keeping Faith by zoemathemata [T, 9,000 word count] (season 5) *
My Eyes Are An Ocean by entangled_now [NC-17, 10,000 word count] (post season 5)
new testament [just more of the same’verse] by outpastthemoat [T, 46,800 word count] (season 8)
PWP: Pie Without Plot by majorenglishesquire & orange_crushed [M/NC-17, 83,000 word count] (season 8)
Somewhere Back of the Sun by enigmaticblue [NC-17, 72,000 word count] (endverse) *
Something by the Sea by destielpasta [M, 30,700 word count] (season 9)
When the Bough Breaks by captainshakespear and deanisthesun [M, 74,000 word count] (season 10) *
The Way Back by rainylemons [T, 36,000 word count] - this is a Gen fic, no destiel, just Dean and fallen Cas (and later Sam) settling down post apocalypse. 
NEW RECS!!! FIRST TIME ON THE BLOG - canon verse domestic destiel, settling down outside the bunker
r/supernatural by renrub [T, 3,550 word count] #outside pov
whatbaby [checks post history] uh… is this the m30s friend that everyone thought was your boyfriend? LiketheGun79 Yes but that's not relevant. Dean's on Reddit. 
Slightly Gayer by mnwood [T, 7,400 word count] #domestic, #established relationship, #!samother (saileen)
Dean notices the way Cas' body has changed, the way his mannerisms have softened. He spends all day fixated on him, unable to take his eyes or his hands away from him.
where the weeds take root by deathbanjo [NC-17, 30,300 word count] #ending, #domestic
“Are you happy? Y’know. Just—being here,” Dean says, gesturing to the yard with his beer bottle. “Being with—I mean, you used to fight in celestial wars and—and save the world. Now you’re growing vegetables and talking about chickens.”
Hey! Thank you for all that you do - do you know any fics (not established relationship) where dean and cas get together through raising a kid (Jack or not Jack doesn’t matter)?
All fics with Dean and Cas raising kids are on our #kidfic tag. I have also added asterisk to the fics with kids recced above to get you started. Just a note - destielfanfic transformed to archive  in January 2018 and since then new fic reading has declined considerably. Which is to say that our blog is really not the best place to look for fics with Jack or other recent characters. We have been asked about fics with Jack many times and our answer is always the same - we just don’t have recs. Please feel free to add canon fics with Jack in the reblog comments!
Hii! I was wondering if you had a fic where endverse cas meets now married/together/established dean and cas? I think itd be a fun dynamic. Thank you for your work! I tried looking through the tag but couldn’t find specifics.
I must admit I have never seen such fic, so, if they exist, please add them in the  reblog comments! 
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knifekris · 5 years
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hey hewwo i need to know... more abt ur zizi strider au. have u thought about like. the first meeting with them and their friends in person?
not explicitly until this moment ! 
like ive said before a big insecurity zizi has is the fact that theyre not human and they worry about what it means about them as a person. theyre afraid of being inherently bad because theyre a troll and because the condesce is the only other example of a troll that they know and its not like dave left them any physiology books. (edit: he didnt fuckin . theres no way he couldve known thered be an alien claiming his legacy. this is so funny. tyzias looked at this badass dude who fought alongside roxys mom and just went “this is my rolemodel now” thats so funny to me. oh god once they have the thought “wait this guy hated the condesce wouldnt he hate me” aaa the crisis that would entail. eee. )not to mention the weird attitude condy would have towards them like? her whole Thing is wanting to give humans the caste system so that she can use that against them but it never worked out. but here tyzias is like. a troll? a tealblood no less. like, how differently would he be treated from roxy because of that? i can still imagine a lot of fighting off drones that are basically )(IC trying to get at them. maybe shes waiting until his ‘ordeal’ age to do anything drastic and shes just trying to emulate alternian culture? condy voice let me raise you like a REAL troll. oh thats something to think about.
back to the actual question,
cue me looking over the wiki and being forced to remember how canon ACTUALLY happened. 
“ According to this page, he landed in the middle of the ocean with Lil Cal, and used the puppet as a flotation device to somehow get to a house to live in. He grew up alone in the single remaining penthouse apartment of a high-rise building in the now-flooded Houston, Texas. “
still not relevant to your question. ill get there in a second. so much bullshit happens thats technically related to dirks prince of heart powers? theres just so fucking much going on with dirk. this is gonna be a matter of figuring out what needs to happen and getting it to happen WITHOUT it being dirk. oh my god.
FRIENDS IN PERSON.
in canon, ‘in person’ for the alphas didnt happen until a whole bunch of dreamself shenanigans came about. remember that sick flash with dirk fucking around on his jet-powered skateboard thing? yeah. that fucked. im pretty sure the fast pace and “lets get this shit DONE” attitude would be something zizi goes with too, figuring if he focuses on the stuff that needs to happen to keep his friends safe he wont have time to consider their feelings towards him being a troll and all that jazz. id imagine he might say something to at least jake abt bein an alien? and while roxy would have their moment of surprise i dont see why they wouldnt just Fuckin Go With It. unless they already knew? theyd bond w zizi a lot over condy, itd make sense for zizi to bring it up as a relevant part of the conversation. maybe they dont, out of fear? out of not wanting it to be seen as a Big Deal? or just procrastinating it. hrm. i think hed avoid telling them until the last possible fkin second (aka in person) because of just like. dummy fear.
jane might have a hangup about it. maybe? but in the end im sure itd just be something jane Ignores For The Moment To Consider And Bring Up Later In An Awkward Conversation
as for jake and zizi. theyd hug so fucking good bro theyd hug SO good zizi is shorter than jake and would tug him down to give him the worlds worst noogie dont even fucking LOOK at me their broship means the world to me.
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deadmanzp · 4 years
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aftg asks; questions by triquetrine
these are so interesting so i did all of them.. i want to come back after a year and see if id still answer the same! 
op is the post before this or also tagged “misc” 
neil josten: favorite/most iconic line?
first one that comes to mind I’m not sure is a favorite or iconic line? but it’s a line i think about a lot and it always hurts to read. it’s when they're at the cabin in TKM. 
“He didn’t care how much it hurt so long as he could pull Andrew closer, and he let Andrew take him apart until he couldn’t think anymore.”
that comes at the very end of Chapter 14 and gosh just the paragraph that line comes from and the paragraph before…. the fact neil thinks andrew doesnt care about him the way he cares/feels about andrew is like….. CMON MAN but also i just love the pining angst of it. i like this line especially because the line right before it mentions neil working his “bandaged fingers into Andrew’s hair”. so the “he didnt care how much it hurt” to me always carried a double meaning of 1. the physical pain he felt bc of his injuries but also 2. the pain of unfamiliarity abt his feelings towards andrew and thinking it was unreciprocal AND THAT HED HAVE TO “WARN” ANDREW like the implication.. of neil thinking abt their “relationship” possibly ending bc andrew doesnt feel the same and maybe wouldnt want to be entangled in whatever neil was feeling …… IM LIKE neil knows andrew so well and him being so sure abt this but hes like …. WRONG …. e
nathaniel wesninski: one thing you would change about the books? (plot, characters, etc)
there is very little id change about the books if at all. mainly bc while i know there are upsetting things that happen/the charas do, i think all of those things make the series really interesting to analyze and talk about. i will say a moment i hated was when neil touches andrews scars when andrew makes it clear he doesn't want neil to pry about them. i know neil offers his scars in turn when he's trying to convince andrew to let neil look over kevin but that was controlled. he let andrew touch them and find out about them of his own volition. neil touches something directly related to the trauma andrew had just experienced again when he had 0 permission to do so. while i always get mad at neil for this when i read it i still dont think id change it or get rid of it. im not really sure how id change it anyways and i think andrews relationship with his scars (and himself in general) is probably what allows him to brush it off(?)/never bring this up (plus maybe neil offering his scars was enough for andrew) but i havent thought too hard about this. but ya i remember i got rlly angry w neil the first time i read this scene and i still get mad abt it when i reread.
andrew minyard: if you could be friends with one of the characters, who would you pick?
i mean realistically i wouldnt be friends w jocks ILL BE REAL LOL and i think as much as i love the monsters, theres no way id be friends w them haha uhm but prob dan would be most realistic! maybe even katelyn tbh.. 
kevin day: if you played exy, what would your position be?
oh i think dealer! in sports i liked being able to do both defense and offense bc it made me feel i had more control over the field, like i could always do something if there were any holes
dan wilds: favorite moment/scene?
definitely the hotel reunion scene. theres so much to it; it drives me nuts!!!!! but honestly there are probably a lot of really good moments im forgetting. to me the whole series is really enjoyable and every scene has something i could say about it haha
matt boyd: song you would love to see in a live-action adaptation?
Oggghh this is so hard… esp since it takes place in 2007???? Idk.. iconic artists then i suppose ghfgkjhf BUT i think general vibes i think itd be so cool if paramore (time relevant), ptv (also time relevant), and mitski were on the soundtrack……. Ya…….. 
nicky hemmick: which made you more emotional, neil at evermore or neil in baltimore?
neil in baltimore for sure… neil at evermore i can't remember what i felt the first time i read it (maybe pain LOL bc he was doing it for andrew and i felt like riko wouldnt keep his promise) but in my latest reread i was unimpressed by it (mostly bc i think riko is boring and unimpressive). i think i mightve said evermore in the past though….. maybe... neil in baltimore is like … GOD neils emotions are so strong during all of that its really juicy haha. i think like him being angry bc he was on the cusp of having everything he couldve ever dreamed of; the desperation of wanting to fight back and get away; even just the fear of being in the same room as his father for the first time in so long... all really juicy 
aaron minyard: a character you will defend to your death?
defend…. im not sure is the word i would use and i dont think i really believe in defending any of these charas “to death” bc of how flawed and complex they are; id like to acknowledge when they did wrong. i think id “defend” any of the characters if i saw anyone misinterpreting or misunderstanding them.. theyre all really interesting even if they didnt get too much spotlight. except maybe riko. hes incredibly boring to me. and also nathan ig and any of his crew just bc there is Nothing abt them rlly...
katelyn: which minor character do you wish you could see more of?
uhhhmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm….. idk maybe… jeremy…. gjfjgkdngmdghs just bc him and kevin r so funny.. i was thinking maybe jean too but…… idk a diff kind of kevin relationship lol (yikes) (pain) but really im satisfied w jeans screen time. i think ichirou is interesting but again i think he didn't rlly need more. maybe erik actually. im interested to know what nicky is like with him :0
allison reynolds: favorite headcanon about the foxes?
actually something i recently thought abt was neil and photography. iirc? andrew gives neil a camera in the ec and i also imagine kevin eventually gets another camera too (i loved that detail when we saw his room at the nest) so i thought abt neil and kevin sharing/trading pics they take of (mainly) scenery. i imagine neil takes pics of anything he wants to remember/keep while kevin is more prone to taking pics of subjects related to some nerd history stuff (lol) so thats why they trade scenery pics mainly. but i like this small connection bc i want more to their relationship than their exy obsession and i imagine they have room for more now that riko is gone and i just like this other commonality btwn them. i think maybe they mail the developed pics to each other maybe w small descripts/notes but thats it. and i also imagine it kind of just is something that started happening.. neil and andrew r on a roadtrip and some building reminds neil of kevin so he snaps a pic and eventually sends it to kevin w some note. kevin replies 1. either a text being like that is nothing. > neil: shrugs brushes it off but figures he is welcome to send more when kevin sends his own picture back or 2. kevin simply replies back similarly w his own photo. i dont know.. maybe this goes beyond what their actual relationship would be like but i do like the idea of them just bein like… dude friends u know so i want them to have more than just exy and a traumatizing experience between them. 
as for common headcanons within the fanbase…. i do like the allison + neil haircuts thing.. although im not sure if i imagine it the same as most haha i feel neil would know how to cut his own hair from his life on the run (though theyre not Good or bad just like ok u know like passable generic w/e) i think hed definitely be tense the first couple times but he has experience w allison being close from needing to be covered up w make up after winter break so i think she would be allowed. 
renee walker: favorite non-canonical ship? (renison, jerejean, etc)
uhmm to be honest none really… im way too attached to canon to be able to dismiss any established relationships. i think kevemy (??? is that the name) is rlly amusing but i dont want them together necessarily haha i used to rlly like renison mainly bc im a lesbian and i want “main” chara wlw relationships lol but i recently read something abt how bi allison doesnt rlly sit well w some bc she outs andrew and neil during the hotel scene.. i also agree this is kinda :/ if she was bi Mainly bc i feel a lot of ppl (or at least this is what i gather from renison stuff ive seen) portray allison already being established bi? if this makes sense. i think if renison/allison realizing shes bi is a later development id feel better abt it but usually renison is already established so ya her outing them does bother me…. BUT aside from this, thinking about them as characters and what their partners (would) look like… im not sure if theyd rlly choose each other.. but i still enjoy seeing them together in art and in fic bc in the end…. im a sucker for women lol….
seth gordon: most underrated dynamic? (matt & neil, wymack & andrew, etc)
my first thought was wymack and andrew bc i rlllllyy like their dynamic especially after reading their ec stuff. i loved their first meeting (andrews terrible sandwich??!?fhdhfjd) and when andrew breaks into wymacks apartment BUT i think ppl mention them enough its not underrated. i Actually think renee and andrews dynamic/friendship is rlly underrated/overlooked!!! especially after reading the son nefes ec i love their dynamic a lot… 
some son nefes moments of them i liked:  tw // rape
renee convincing andrew to go with her to see matt after his trip to edens
how many knives do u carry / one more than u IS SO FUNNY and just andrews persistence abt fighting renee is also rlly funny to me
tw // rape : the moment when andrew asks renee if she killed her rapist/abuser that whole convo was good… 
their convo in the rain w their tea
i cant remember when this happens or rlly exaclty what was said but renee offers andrew something (some help??) and he says i dont need (w/e it was) and she says something along the lines of  i know but it wouldnt do any harm or SOMETHING like that.. i like this bc she acknowledges their abilities while showing shed still like to offer some help. im p sure she does this another time too (w neil???? or someone i cant remember maybe it was andrew again) and i remember liking it too. she has a way w words and talking (also seen in her convincing andrew to see matt)
BUT regardless of ec stuff i think their relationship/dynamic seen in the books is rlly good too. theres def enough to be intrigued by them and i always have been? so i'm reeeaallly happy son nefes exists i loved reading it..
david wymack: which ncaa team would you play for?
oh to be honest i dont rlly remember many of them but of the Three (ravens, foxes, trojans) prob trojans. i remember i even got them in a uquiz once… 
abby winfield: which character was the most realistically written?
first that came to mind was aaron actually.. i remember before when i didnt rlly like him or care abt him it was actually bc he was too “boring” to me. i always thought he had the most realistic reactions to things which is what made him boring to me amidst the ridiculousness of, well, everything in aftg lol… i still think he is really realistically written but now i dont think hes boring haha
besty dobson: how many times have you read the series?
fully i think…. only 3 times… i wish this were a higher count but i actually feel guilty everytime i try to reread it.
riko moriyama: coolest exy moment? (kevin’s last-minute point against the ravens, andrew shutting down the goal, etc)
uhhmm uhmm i def think kevin during the final game against the ravens…. hes so cool haha but i KNOW there were a lot of game moments that i thought were really cool so i cant rlly say…. oh also i love neil being defense in that game too rlly juicy wish i could pull up obscure moments bc i know i rlly enjoyed reading the games but terrible memory...
jeremy knox: which do you like reading more, domestic!foxes or chaotic!foxes?
uh i guess chaotic? not rlly sure exactly what that could entail but i do like… their chaos.. when they have fights and squabbles and stuff… this includes the high tension moments. ALTHOUGH i do like the tiny lines in the books when we see the monsters just doing like random basic everyday life stuff like playing video games or whatever. i like…. imagining them... fhdjfjshfjs… as for fic def chaos. i feel domestic is usually too softened….. 
jean moreau: favorite friendship?
oh i think this goes back to andrew and renee. but other than them… i do like neil and matts friendship.. though probably not the same as its typically portrayed 
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