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queen0fm0nsterz · 3 years
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The achievements dialogue from Secrets of the Maw is actually very interesting :0
Other examples:
Ashes in the Maw - Are you proud of yourself?
(Ashes to Ashes - Who knows what secrets do they hold?)
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Bestie when I tell you I think about those two achievements ALL the damn TIME, along with the ones you get from the floatsams. So I'm gonna go off talking about all five achievements.
Also... haha... five achievements. Five.
Usually, the achievements in Little Nightmares are reflections of what the protagonist feels/thinks, or still refer to the kid we play as in some way - which is why the three messages in the bottles achievements stand out so much.
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It has been already pointed out by several people how these names and descriptions could be referring to the letters themselves, giving us a general idea of what their content might be.
However, what I want to focus right now is the fact that the "you" mentioned in these achievements is clearly not the Runaway, which leads me to the first achievement you mentioned: Ashes on the Maw.
To get this one, the player has to burn a little wooden statue of a Nome in the furnace during the Hideaway chapter.
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That little guy on the desk.
Either way, I always thought that the description of the achievement was a little out of place. Not outside of the realm of possibilities, but... it feels so accusatory. Who is talking to who here? I have a few possibilities, you pick your favorite.
1) These are the Runaway's internal thoughts narrated from a second person's POV. Perhaps he felt bad about destroying it? If that was the case, the wording is still peculiar... also, keep in mind that the little nome statue was probably made by Roger. Would the Runaway feel bad about destroying something made by someone who persistantely antagonizes him and the other children?
2) This is Roger talking to the Runaway. Which... unlikely, to me at least, because I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be aware of the whereabouts of the statue. Then again, there are other achievements where the monsters communicate with the protagonist - "Hey sneaky rat, how do you keep slipping away? ", Elusive achievement (the only one I'm 100% sure of) to name one.
3) The most likely, I'm overanalyzing and going insane it's a question from an external POV to the Runaway - or even us, the player. Most of the achievements also work like this, especially the ones when completing areas.
4) Lastly: this is a question coming from another character entirely and meant for someone else.
This last one wouldn't make any sense and normally I wouldn't even consider it, however... the Eye symbol on the statue... the same symbol that is also on the floatsams... I'm not saying that the wooden statue is somehow connected to the person who wrote the letters: maybe the Eye serves as a nod to us to connect the dots. Then again, nothing certain.
The next one: Ashes to Ashes.
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(And I have done my Junji Ito research. If someone tries to tell me the painting behind it doesn't look EXACTLY like the page of the trapped souls in the furnace from chapter 4 of Uzumaki, I will simply choose to ignore them.)
To unlock this achievement, all you need to do is push the vase down to its doom in the Residence chapter. It's located in a secret room and you'll need a book with the Lady's mask on it to gain access to it. I think it's safe to assume the ashes inside the vase are those of children, as seen by the petrified kids surrounded by even more ash directly under the table, and that these ashes are being used for some sort of dark magic. Shadow Children origin maybe?
The Eye symbol is there once again. Same exact one.
It's clear that the "they" here probably refers to the children themselves, yet I can't help but ask myself if it may have some sort of double meaning. They, the children, but also someone else. And since we're in the Lady's Redidence... would it be too far of a stretch to assume she is included in this "they"?
Buuut, once again, these are only thoughts and theories. Still, I do think the letters were sent by someone with the intention of reaching out to the Lady - and the achievements frame it like a two way conversation where one end can't quite hear the other.
Reconstructing it, I think it would go something along these lines:
👘: "(I am) not alone... Is anybody out there?"
?:"What's new with you?"
(...)
?:"I wish I could visit you there. (...) I'll be out of reach for a while."
👘: "I'm losing you."
Or, including the achievement Ashes in the Maw:
👘: "(I am) not alone... Is anybody out there?"
?:"What's new with you? Are you proud of yourself?"
(...)
?:"I wish I could visit you there. (...) I'll be out of reach for a while."
👘: "I'm losing you."
As usual, we're missing chunks of conversation! Lovely. Just lovely. We really can't have anything, mh? Oh boy, don't I love reconstructing tiny bits of conversation that may lead to nothing! I do think they're important to the story though, so there's that.
Either way, thank you for giving me a chance to talk about these achievements. I feel like we don't discuss them enough. If you guys come up with interesting/more logical ways to reconstruct the conversation of the achievements, let me know!
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