#Also I'm being very /gen /lh!!! not mad at all

[funnierasafictive]

about your most recent post, what do you mean by white people having to watch out and think about what they’re doing when it comes to introjecting?

Regarding this post

Specifically like, if white bodied people (reminder that white-passing people are still POC though!) want to change their name to a name that's for example traditionally Japanese, etc. (I'm not just pointing out that this "only applies to Asian names", this is just a common example!).

Obviously we (our system) can't stop anyone from doing what they want with their legal powers, but it's something we hope white systems really think about before they change their name so easily to something like that

Because of white privilege, white people most likely won't know what POC or SOC (systems of color) go through. People with less-white sounding names get racially profiled and/or deal with their names constantly being mispronounced to the point of changing their name legally to sound more white, or adopting an "English name". I don't think I have to explain the leaked Flight Ban/Watchlist and why the people on that list were there, for example

I hope that explains it! If white people want to change their name to something "different", I literally can't do anything abt that! In short, we brought that up because of racism, xenophobia, and bullying that's been done to people with less-white-sounding names.

#ask #anon #BTW Im not talking about INTROJECTING im talking what you do with this information AFTER the fact #Also our system is not white- we are asian. I'm saying this so that you know our perspective!! Not bc our words shld be 'better' than anyon #And also bc we cant speak for EVERY person of color. our perspective is of someone who is asian yipee #Also now that I'm reading what we said in the tags of that previous post- I hope it isn't read too much as a threat #But I trust that you can understand why any POC might phrase things like that when it comes to appropriating names #Also if someone says 'but what about spanish names?' well the context is that Spain colonized many countries so idk what to tell you #Ask us if you'd need this post tagged! #Also I'm being very /gen /lh!!! not mad at all #Also AGAIN pls pls i dont speak for all POC OTL.. but I hope this explains why ANY POC might ask you to think Deeply about ur privileges

[ailelie]

Why is /j the tone indicator for joking when we've been using /jk for, like, two decades to the point that it has entered dialogue?

Seriously, I have heard people say something, get a sour look, and then respond, "Jay-kay!"

(Two decades b/c I know we were using /jk when I was in high school. And, yes, I know /jk stands for 'just kidding' but the tonal implications are basically the same as 'joking').

Many tone indicators are completely unintelligible and I have to look them up every time or just ignore them. But I can't say they're new because /jk's been around since high school and /s for sarcasm has been around since college (for me).

That someone would look at those and be like, what if we had more doesn't surprise me. I figure the most useful ones will persist while the majority will fall away into disuse.

People don't adopt memorize long lists unless necessary. They'll memorize what's useful to them, though.

/hj for half-joking is an interesting one for 'I'm not really serious but I'd still like a response' and I can kinda see myself using it in the future. /gen for genuine as a way to underscore yes, I really mean this could be useful, too. And I've definitely used /jk and /s over the past decades (though not tons).

But /srs (serious), /p (platonic), /r (romantic), /pos (positive connotations), /neg (negative connotations), /c (copypasta), /ly (lyrics), /lh (lighthearted), /nm (not mad), /t (teasing), /m (metaphorically), /rh (rhetorical question), /hyp (hyperbole), /th (threat) and the myriad more?

...I'm a control freak, but not that much of a control freak.

Some of these I could see being helpful if you're around people who constantly misinterpret you or are talking to strangers who have no idea who you are, but I typically talk to friends? Or to communities that give benefit of the doubt?

Tone indicators are not new, but they're not used all over the place because I think they undermine themselves to a bit. If I have to tell someone a statement is a joke, it probably isn't a very good or funny joke. Or the '/jk' is the punchline. And the only time I've used /s is when I know a statement is not immediately apparent as sarcasm or I know too many people have said something similar genuinely. Even then, though, it'd depend on where. And, honestly, I've learned to embed tone in my word choice.

I could say: "He's a great leader. /s" or I could say: "He's such a great leader."

For most people, the inclusion of the italicized 'such' will read as sarcasm. In print you have to go a bit more overboard with things.

Now I'm thinking about adverbs and how they weaken writing. They're so handy. "He ran down the track." vs "He ran rapidly down the track." Except, the better way to do that is to drop the adverb entirely and choose a better word for "ran" like "sprinted." "He sprinted down the track."

I wonder if tone indicators are like adverbs-- a way to improve clarity of meaning (because they can do that!) while also weakening writing and decreasing the need to think about the words you're using.

#tone indicators #this is not a super negative post #i'm just musing #also i'm irritated by /j #because /jk has been a thing for DECADES #seriously people #don't recreate the wheel

[jojotichakorn]

Okay, stupid question, but what is /j ? And the other things you put after / ?

And I was talking about getting arrested, but that is probably just me and the fact that I am always up for stupid shenanigans. And getting into fights...

that would be a tone indicator. here are all the ones i use:

/j - joking

/hj - half-joking

/lh - light-hearted

/gen - genuine

/srs - serious

/s - sarcasm

/nm - not mad

/p - platonic

as an autistic, it really helps me make sure people misunderstand me as little as possible (because i know my tone can be quite wonky) and it also helps me when others use it as i often don't understand when someone is joking or being sarcastic or serious, etc. etc.

as for getting arrested - i'm gonna be honest, it's very much the opposite of shenanigans with moscow police 😰

#for legal reasons the police comment is a joke and i am a certified stand up comedian #archer responds #badprophetvx

[theygender]

Just found out about tone indicators on twitter and as an autistic person I am... very confused. I do have difficulty distinguishing tone sometimes and I do have limited experience with tone indicators myself! I remember learning about using /s to indicate sarcasm back in like 2014 and I still find that very helpful today because I know I and many other autistic people have trouble distinguishing sarcasm, especially in a text format. But the rest of this very extensive list I just found is ????

Like some of them I could see being genuinely helpful. /j for joking or /t for teasing for example, could be very helpful under the right circumstances. I could also see /srs (serious) being useful for some people. /nm for not mad could be pretty useful, but I feel like it has too much overlap with the /lh (lighthearted) tag they created. The distinction between /rh (rhetorical question) and /gen (genuine question) could be useful, although I feel like the tags for those last two aren't very intuitive

But then there's like.... /g for general, which I feel like would overlap with a lot of the other tags. /hj for half joking which is... confusing to me? Why do you need a tag for joking and also a tag for "still joking but not as much"? There's /li (literally) which I feel would just create more confusion because most people don't use the word literally... well... literally. They've got /p (platonic), /r (romantic), and /x (sexual) which like.... I can see the platonic one being useful if someone wanted to make it clear they weren't flirting but under what situation would you use the other two 😭 You gonna sext someone and add /x?

And the rest of these... aren't even tones. I'm so confused. /c (copypasta), /ly (lyrics), and /cb (clickbait) are not tones. /nbh (nobody here, apparently indicating that you're vaguetweeting about someone who doesn't follow you) could be useful but it's also not a tone. /ij means inside joke?? Why are you posting something to all of your followers if it's an inside joke that they wouldn't understand? What does /f (fake) even mean. And under what circumstances would you use /pos (positive connotation) or /neg (negative connotation). Is this like the twitter version of the (derogatory) meme? And /th?? Why do they have a tone indicator for threatening someone????

Like I understand that just because something isn't useful for me personally as an autistic person doesn't mean that it can't be useful to other autistic people and I'm not trying to cast judgement on people who need tone indicators more than I do! And maybe there is something about twitter that makes it more difficult to judge someone's tone on there that I'm just not aware of because I don't use that site. But seeing this whole list, and especially seeing how people in some circles on twitter are adding multiple overlapping tone indicators after every single sentence they type is just... super overwhelming and confusing to me personally

#rambling #probably gonna delete this later but im just so confused #trying to read these random screenshots someone posted of what i assume was kpop twitter apparently going nuts #while every single tweet had like 5 different tone indicators was very disorienting #especially since /j and /srs were the only ones that were intuitive enough for me to be able to figure out #i looked up an explanation of the tone indicators people use on twitter because i thought it would help clear things up #but that just made me even more confused?????? #im very glad i dont use twitter tbh this would be too much for me #how do you even memorize that list #having to stop and consult a little dictionary to figure out what every post on my dash meant would just make things 10x harder #long post