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#A tale of two Topas
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I JUST finished watching a Tale of two Topas and I have things to say.
It's been long since I had to actually cry on any show episode or a movie, and I cried three times in this episode alone.
Klyden is good to go. (I know he's gonna come back) Topa does not need any of his internalised toxicity and I'm so glad to see how much Bortus loves and supports his daughter.
BORTUS LOVES HER SO MUCH I CAN'T ANYMORE
He barely ever gets big emotional reactions, but then he's sitting with Grayson and starts crying because he wants to help and make his child happy but doesn't know how. You have no idea how important that scene was to me. All this parental love stored in him. (Also that he gave her the password to let her find out.)
I also love the Orville for actually picking up old Storylines again (also everyone deciding to embarrass Kelly for becoming a god again and again). And how this was build up with the recurring issues between Bortus and Klyden. And how it was revealed that Bortus was already keeping Locars heterosexuality a secret for years which was against Moclus principals.
AND OF COURSE I'M WAITING FOR MORE TOPA.
Not to forget Bortus concert. Truly an amazing singer. So happy that he helped his daughter by throwing a concert.
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transpidergwen · 2 years
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The Orville said fuck you terfs
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ploppythespaceship · 2 years
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Something noticed on my most recent Orville rewatch -- in A Tale of Two Topas, when Kelly says that Topa is unhappy, Klyden's response is "All children are unhappy. He will outgrow it." And knowing that Klyden was also surgically altered to conform to his all-male society, that line just hits a little different.
I have to wonder if Klyden experienced the same dysphoria when he was young, knowing that something was wrong but not having any way to express those feelings or even recognize the cause. So instead he just buried it deep down and fully embraced Moclan tradition in the hopes that it would make those feelings go away. It's just an interesting thought, the idea that Klyden was initially so intolerant of Topa being female because he recognized something of himself in her, and that terrified him.
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penicillium-pusher · 2 years
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Kinda strange to me when people say Topa was assigned female at birth, like……. she was explicitly assigned male at birth. There was an entire episode about it, they had a whole court case decision to assign her male………… like I obviously get where you’re coming from but she was absolutely Assigned Male.
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jamiemegad3thnot · 9 months
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I can't believe a silly sci-fi Star Trek parody keeps making cry
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ashleybenlove · 2 years
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“My body has been screaming to me that I am someone else.” 
This is an incredible line and pretty much in-line with what actual trans people say.
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life-of-eris · 1 year
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The crew loves Topa so much 😭💥✨💖💕
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i am topa's number 1 fan
if she has 100 fans im one of them, if she has 1 fan its me, if she has no fans im dead, if the world is against topa i am against the world
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caffeineheroes · 2 years
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Truly, no show goes boldly and captures the heart of Star Trek TOS and TNG like The Orville right now ♡
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arielavader · 2 years
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Dr. Claire Finn appreciation society here, woman ready to give up her whole life to help a patient get the care they need.
And I already hated klydon, for obvious reasons. Still I felt sorry for him, having the same feelings possibly as topa and just deciding he'd rather be miserable than non conforming. At least I did until his fucking child is telling him how much she loves him anyway and he tells her he wishes she was dead. Fuck man.
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hunterinabrowncoat · 10 months
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So I’m finally watching The Orville and absolutely loving it and I got to my favourite episode so far - A Tale of Two Topas. And I have a lot of thoughts and feelings...
On the one hand it has the issue that every sci-fi metphor or allegory for real world issues has where it doesn’t translate perfectly. I think a lot of transphobes would still like the story because Topa was born female and changed without her knowledge or consent as an infant because of the misogynistic culture she was born into.
But then I don’t think these stories necessarily have to be perfect allegories. The fact that Topa’s story obviously resonates with a lot of intersex and trans people doesn’t mean the writers are intending to create a perfect metaphor for the trans experience, they’re just exploring an interesting topic of sex and gender in different alien cultures.
The thing that was lovely about it was how all the crew instantly switched to using the right pronouns the moment Topa told them she is a girl. I also liked how Klyden was a massive cunt and left at the end tbh because that’s how a lot of trans stories go. Like she’s lost her dad and literally been told “I wish you were never born” but she wouldn’t take it back for the world because she’s finally feeling like herself and she’s got a supportive family around her in the crew.
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triflesandparsnips · 2 years
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The number one thing I did not expect from 2022 is Seth McFarlane hitting his own personal TumblrSwift-era through writing Star Trek fanfic.
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potion-junkie · 2 years
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Man I just realized that the new ep of the Orville (which has a really well done trans storyline) came out on the last day of pride month.
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drclairefinn · 2 years
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“A Tale of Two Topas” might be my favorite The Orville episode yet
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transpidergwen · 2 years
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Spent the last moments of Pride Month sobbing over this episode of the Orville how's everyone else doing
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