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bozojesus · 5 years

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so i finally watched 3 from h.ell and...

i really liked it actually

i missed cutter terribly, of course, but not to the point where it ruined the movie. they do kind of rush through the segment about his execution at the beginning, but there’s a scene where otis & baby talk about him during the third act that was very sweet and actually made me tear up. it’s obvious that the characters haven’t forgotten him; he’s just a very painful subject and that’s understandable, considering how much he meant to them. otis in particular sounded ready to cry when talking about him. shocker, right?

that said !! cutter very very clearly lives on through baby. i really loved how she was developed in this one and she stole every scene she was in. i thought sheri’s acting was solid throughout the movie - even when she was going really over-the-top during the first forty or so minutes, i still bought it, and while baby remains a terrible person, i thought 3FH humanized her a lot more than TDR did. most of her kills are pretty quick ( though she still relishes in them, of course ) rather than the drawn out sadism & mental torture from the first two movies. her emotional journey reminded me so strongly of her dad’s in the sense she has this aimlessness about her, like she no longer knows what to do with herself or what her place is or what she wants. she even goes so far as to question otis about why they even do what they do, which leads to otis questioning their lifestyle himself to some degree. maybe i’m reading into it wrong, or maybe other fans will read his reaction differently, but his response to baby almost seemed like one of resignation. death, violence & destruction is what they’re used to. it’s simply what they’re meant to do - what else is there for them? i’ve always believed that’s a thought that had already crossed cutter’s mind - that he is simply meant to destroy, so he might as well continue to destroy. it was interesting to see otis & baby starting to get to that point now that they’re older. kind of feels like everything’s coming full circle, in that sense.

as for otis himself, it really seemed like he was just kind of ?? going through the motions. don’t get me wrong, he’s still a sick, thoroughly evil man, but he lacks a lot of the relish he used to have. this time around it felt more like he was following a routine than carrying out these horrendous deeds because he believed them to be his not-so-divine purpose ( or whatever the hell goes on in his head ). he still goes on his usual misanthropic rants, but does he actually believe them anymore, or is he just saying them because that’s what’s expected of him at this point? it’s hard to discern.

ri.chard brake did a really nice job as foxy. he was appropriately gross & despicable when the movie called for it while still having a certain charm about him. there were moments where i shuddered at his behaviour; other times i found him very endearing and Almost Sweet ( you can definitely tell he was meant to be cutter’s replacement because that was essentially cutter’s role in the last one ). he isn’t as fleshed-out as he could’ve been, no, but for a last-minute addition to the cast? he’s totally fine. he isn’t grating at all. i liked him! i’d be really okay with seeing him again and while no one can replace cutter, i think foxy’s presence helps fill what would’ve been a very sad & lonely void. he and baby basically take turns acting as the comedy relief of the movie with the occasional sarcastic jab from otis. i thought it worked well.

as for the other characters... sebastian was adorable. by far my favourite new addition to the squad. he played a huge role in the humanization of baby and it was so, so nice to see a character in this series who’s a genuinely kind person and not a total piece of shit. i really hope rob will write more characters like him in future movies because i think he underestimates how important it is to have them around in media like the firefly family series. they keep things from getting too bleak. warden harper’s wife judy was great, but really under-utilized. i thought the guard greta’s storyline had potential but it sadly didn’t go anywhere, which is a shame. warden harper himself is appropriately scummy, but i felt rob... could’ve went a little further with him? i felt he should’ve gone all-out and really made us hate the guy, if that was supposed to be his purpose. i feel like the home invasion scene should’ve been Earned. that was by far my least favourite sequence of the movie and it just dragged on and on and on.

i also would’ve liked rob to have explored the concept of sensationalized serial killers in the media more and why this is a bad thing. it seemed like the opening of the movie was setting that up, but like greta and harper’s arcs, it just... did not go anywhere. i was really hoping we’d see how fame impacted otis, baby & cutter, and how their sensationalization affected pop culture in general, since they’ve been in the public eye for over a decade... but nope. we have some scenes where baby maniacally gushes over her supposed stardom, otis grouching about how they have to be careful in the public eye and a pretty funny joke from foxy where he tries to insist he’s the most recognizable of the bunch, but that’s about it.

and like... could we not have had at least some reactions from them to 80s pop culture? the movie didn’t have to revolve around that, but it’s like... these guys are so heavily ingrained in 70s aesthetic & they’ve been locked up for 10 years, pretty much shut off from the rest of the world. you’d think we’d at least get some quips from otis about how music has gone down the shitter or something like that, but nope! nothing like that either. i suppose that’s something that’s gonna have to be saved for future 3FH threads instead.

the dialogue wasn’t awful but some of the callbacks were a little Too obvious for my taste. i liked the subtle ones, like where baby tells otis she has a “better idea” at the end when deciding what to do with aquarius and how otis is actually accepting her plan ( as opposed to otis’ “better idea” angering cutter in TDR ), and how otis tries to hype baby up with the “fucked up shit” line. but some of other stuff otis said? like the boogeyman shit at the beginning and the “murder factory” line when he’s killing harper? nah, that felt a bit forced and kind of uncreative on rob’s end. i think he could’ve done a bit better with that.

overall, i thought the first forty minutes were a bit of a drag, but when the characters get to mexico things really kicked off and i found myself enjoying it and getting really into it. it’s definitely not TDR or Ho1KC, but it’s a fun ride in its own right. the one thing i do think it did better than TDR was - again - giving the characters some depth & dimension. we actually got to see emotional reactions from them & they’re given some quiet moments where they could just talk to each other and have fun outside of the disgusting torture shit ( which, thank god, this movie doesn’t linger on quite as much as the last one imo ). that’s something i felt like TDR lacked & i’m glad rob did that portion right this time around.

while it’s a flawed movie and the absence of my beloved clown is definitely felt, i really don’t think 3FH is this abysmal piece of shit that some people are making it out to be. i don’t think it’ll hold the same special place in my heart that the first two do, but i liked it. i’m very glad to have finally seen it and i’m hoping it’ll spark some new life into the fandom. you best believe i’ll be writing up cutter several 3FH verses in the future & am super eager to use this film as a basis of doing new stuff for him.

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bozojesus · 5 years

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you know... the more i think about 3FH the more it feels like kind of a “bonus” movie rather than being an official part of the original series.

with the first two, everything kind of... fits into place? feels Right?? even though rob made Ho1kC without any plans for a sequel, i bought everything that happened in TDR. the reveal that cutter is baby’s dad felt like a total eureka moment, not an asspull, for example. because his character and connection to the family is so ambiguous in the first one, rob’s decision to make cutter the patriarch of the fireflies just made Sense. it gave him motivation to be involved with the story and with the family.

everything in 3FH just feels so... rushed? sloppy? last minute? i understand that rob might have had a very different vision of the movie when sid was fully involved, and that he was more or less left to scramble and string things together when sid was forced to back out. i understand that. i sympathize with that. but my god, it really shows in the finished product.

i like foxy a lot but the idea that otis had this brother that we never knew about feels like something straight out of fanfiction. it also kind of... takes something away from his characterization in the first two, imo, because his entire deal was that he was a complete loner & never had a family until he met the fireflies. that meant something. i kind of wish they just kept foxy a friend of otis’ and not a family member, or maybe a relative on baby’s side. his appearance still would’ve been a bit random, but that angle feels a bit more believable.

i also hate that we saw such a sloppy retread of wydell’s character in aquarius. the reason why wydell worked is because he was a fully developed character who the audience got to know pretty well, and who played a key role in the story. i bought him as george’s brother. i liked the concept of a firefly victim having a relative seeking revenge on their behalf and the fireflies being forced to suffer the consequences of their actions that way.

with aquarius everything felt so... strung together. like, rondo Just So Happened to be doing labour at the same time as otis? he Just So Happened to have a son in mexico where the remaining trio Just So Happened to go? it was really fucking contrived. i didn’t feel anything for aquarius the way i did for wydell because aquarius wasn’t really... an actual character. he was a plot device to give the fireflies someone to fight against and it really showed. with wydell, i felt sympathy and horror and disgust. with aquarius, i didn’t feel much of anything.

i already talked about some of the dialogue feeling like a “greatest hits collection” in my initial reaction to the movie so i don’t wanna repeat all that but yeah. still think it was cringey and lazy. really feel like if 3FH had been made 10 years ago it would’ve been a much different, much better film. rob either should have left the franchise alone or should have jumped on the sequel concept a lot sooner, because sid and bill Did try to warn him not to wait until they were too old and look what happened.

“but carling, you said you really liked it!” i really liked Aspects of it and I enjoyed the last Hour of the movie. i don’t hate this movie or think it’s a badly made or badly acted film. i deeply appreciate it for helping rekindle my love of captain spaulding and of the series. but it’s definitely messy and as a big fan of the first two, and someone who pretty much grew up with these movies, i can’t help but point these things out and feel kind of bothered by them. not to the point of hating the movie or wishing it was never made, but definitely looking at it like :/ to some extent.

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