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starlightstare · 6 days

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I love cheonliang fam, and I love Mary and Vin, but I can't find myself enamored with their backstory like I was with Johan's and Eli, and basically everyone else's. Or maybe it's just because I set my expectations too high for the Cheonliang arc? It was supposed to be Vin's backstory, but it didn't feel like it at the same time with all these new characters being introduced and highlighted rather than having the focus on Vin. It is sad, but I didn't feel that emotional.

And what the hell did Pestiboi do to Mary that got Vin so mad? WHAT HAPPENED

#lookism #lookism webtoon #vin jin #cheonliang arc

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starlightstare · 19 days

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And there's this.

Analyzing Dreamtale

This is just another one of my theories. Seriously, Dream has been my comfort character ever since I was in middle school and I'm in college now. I was a dumb-dumb kid back then, and I returned to watching Underverse after I saw Dream fighting and now I've been sucked back to this hellhole. Now, this isn't about Dream or Nightmare, though. This theory is about Nim and Dreamtale.

Dreamtale belongs to @jokublog ! I'm not claiming to own it in any way. It does not belong to me. Just making a theory about it. ♡

From the wiki itself.

From another analysis in amino.

I always get annoyed when people harasses creators, especially when they go, 'DrEaMtAlE iS iN uNdErTaLe So It'S aN aU'.

It's stated that Dreamtale is and is not an AU at the same time. It didn't happen in the multiverse of Undertale. The trees are in the middle of each multiverse, in a world right next to one another — which would mean that the trees are located in the center of the ommiverse? For a quick context;

While the word 'ommiverse' has various meanings and interpretation, the fixed meaning would be the entirety of fiction altogether. Each book, each shows, each games have their own multiverses and all those multiverses are part of the ommiverse. For example, Undertale has many AUs so it has its own multiverse. But so does Pokemon, Harry Potter, and other works of fiction. They all have multiverses, which makes up the ommiverse. Ommiverse is the home to all multiverses. So to say that the three trees (life, feelings and mana) are located in the middle of the multiverses would be saying that these trees have existed amidst the ommiverse, delivering a balance of magic, emotions and life to each verses — Undertale included.

The other definition of would simply be an accumulation of multiverses from a single franchise or something. For example, DC. They have their animated multiverse, the dark multiverse, the main multiverse etc etc but with their very same characters just different stories and worlds.

I'm highly leaning towards the first one because Joku stated that Dreamtale is outside of Undertale in the first place. Dreamtale is not a part of Undertale nor is it an AU. It's a separate story, a seperate world with its own seperate tale.

Now, in this image of Nim, created by Joku herself, it's stated that Nim found out something terrible about the other guardians and slowly distanced herself from them before eventually cutting them off completely. In the wiki, it says that she felt unsafe around them and relocated to the Undertale multiverse altogether. They didn't originally belong there, she simply entered Undertale for refuge.

They were not from there. Maybe the world where the tree of feelings is in is just called 'Dreamtale' to make it seem like a part of the Undertale multiverse or maybe that's what it's originally called; The tale of dreams. We'll never know. But what we do know is that they're outsiders. They don't belong in Undertale whatsoever, no codes, no nothing. They occasionally break the fourth wall, too. They have no connection to this universe aside from the fact that they give emotions to maintain balance.

We all know that Dream and Nightmare aren't Sanses. They're energy balls, souls with the vessels of Sanses. They aren't humans or monsters. They're different entities altogether.

Joku made a post saying that even Dream and Nightmare believe that they're from the Undertale multiverse, but soon enough they'll know. They grew up in Undertale so they think that they're from there when originally, they aren't. The only relation they have to the game and AUs is that their vessels are in the forms of Sans but aside from that, there's nothing more. They don't have the blasters, the bones, or the eyelights. But based on the speculation that they're omniversal, I'd immediately assume that they're powerful entities. Hell, even Joku confirmed that Dream can jump from one multiverse to another cause he doesn't belong to Undertale in the first place. Dream can casually exit the game and go to another. Imagine that? Only that Nim forced him to Undertale altogether. How? We'll never know either. But the fact still stands that Nim and the apple twins are major anomalies to the Undertale multiverse. Dreamtale is and is not an AU at the same time.

Again, this is just another theory since I'm a fan of the story and have the tendency to over-analyze things. :)

#Dreamtale #Undertale #nightmare sans #dream sans #nim dreamtale

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