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I love the idea of Logan having a Jekyll-Hyde thing going on with Orange side, but the orange-eyes thing its most probably just the Orange side showing his influence...in the same way Janus can stop the sides from speaking about stuff Thomas doesn't want to hear. Regardless i can't wait to see his character design, i'm so excited for that.
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Current Timeline of ALL Possible & Known Hints about the Orange Side
Notes: This list also includes bonus content. If it’s not obvious, minor reasoning will be included. If I missed any let me know. This is to recollect on ALL POSSIBLE hints that can point to a orange side in one post so people can see them all in one place and draw educated conclusions.
1.) The Family Tree
The higher up lines indicate a sibling relationship. This family tree predicted Roman having a twin and it does the same for Patton. Included because next few hints.
1.5) Learning New Things About Ourselves
I didn’t include this fully because it really isn’t a orange side hint. HOWEVER the context is important to another thing on this list and it sets the stage of Logan’s issues.
After Roman calls his clarity stupid, Logan gets angry, crumples a paper, and throws it at his eye.
After his body language is remorseful and scared. He apologizes saying “I don’t know what that was.” It’s also worth nothing this scene inspired many Wrath theories.
2.) Putting Others First Sprites
The thumbnail lets us know there is a whole new unknown side. Worth noting his silhouette matches Logan’s silhouette.
A orange number that reads “hello” upside down. Worth nothing this appeared in a Patton-centric scene and the backing letters are Logan’s blue.
3.) Patton’s Playlist
The song Oranges by Lawrence is on there. Inclusion is self explanatory. Here are some of the lyrics.
4.) Crofters Musical 2 Fridge
Behind Patton is a drawing, nobody knows what it is for sure (it was debated for a bit with no solid conclusions) besides the fact it’s certainty orange. Might be a hint so it’s on this list.
5.) Working Through Intrusive Thoughts
After trying to reason with Remus to listen only to be ignored, and while Thomas looked at the message that wasn’t replied to, Logan gets angry again. He shouts “Stop ignoring me” and acts scared or surprised after, Remus was not. This is why 1.5 was included, to note parallels.
Finally, after a reassuring “everything is fine :)” from Janus, we see this. The inclusion is obvious, but it is worth noting the two current interpretations of these scenes are that Logan is the Orange Side, or that the Orange Side is acting through Logan.
I would love to know everyone’s thoughts :)
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best day for being a Logan stan
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There's so much to talk about, but honestly i'm so impressed by how much the production quality improved in this episode. I'm amazed by the direction, camera-work and cinematography in general.
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Somewhere in my notes in the last few days I saw someone add some tags that I’ve been thinking about ever since. I wish I could find them again (or that I’d just saved their post at the time) because I think they made a lot of sense.
They were talking about how fanfic is becoming more and more mainstream while still remaining largely transgressive. It’s such an interesting dichotomy to think about!
On the one hand, you have sites like AO3 and realities like widespread high speed internet access being more and more accessible to larger and larger groups of people. This makes it incredibly easy for anyone at all to find and read fanfic.
On the other hand, you have the roots of fanfic. It was born out of marginalized groups such as women, people of colour, and members of the queer community deciding to take the stories that had been aimed at a largely male, white, heterosexual audience and inverting them into something they could enjoy and relate to. To this day, fanfic is a place where people write the kinds of stories that don’t get made into movies and TV shows. The kinds of stories that don’t get published or end up on the New York Times bestseller list.
Fanfic used to be written and shared in secret. People used to hide it. People still do hide the fact that they read or write it. But it’s becoming something that more and more people are becoming more and more aware of.
So now there’s a spotlight starting to shine on fanfic. People who aren’t looking for transgressive works are finding them where they always were. People who think the status quo is fine are getting upset when they enter a place where the status quo is constantly being upended.
The tags on that post that I can’t find made the point that popular media is curated and sanitized and stripped of most of its controversy in order to appeal to the widest possible audience. But that also makes that audience expect all media to be curated and sanitized in the same way. When they encounter the messy, controversial, ugly, radical, difficult things that people write in fanfic, they’re unprepared.
Fanfic isn’t big media. Fanfic authors aren’t being edited and filtered and polished - and nor are their works. The clash between the expectations of people new to fanfic and accustomed to popular media and the realities of what fanfic is and what it’s being written for - that’s part of this struggle that fandom is going through right now. It’s been going on since the beginning of course, but it’s getting louder every year.
I’m still thinking my way through this, but it really does make a lot of sense to me. If those were your tags, please let me know so I can credit you with the ideas at the core of this post.
And if you have any ideas for how we as fans can better introduce the newbies to the culture and expectations in fandom, I’d love to hear it. The better we can guide people into our space, the better they’ll fit in when they join it.
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tumblr keeps eating this one pls work im gonna cry
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I am not sorry and Patton is too pure for this world.
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people on this website be like “it’s actually school’s fault that i don’t know how to read because i wanted to write my essay on the divergent trilogy and that BITCH mrs. clarkson made us study 1984 instead. anyway here’s a 10 tweet thread of easily disproven misinformation about a 3 year old news story and btw, who is toni morrison?”
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Anyways, I saw this tweet
And I had to draw something for it
Can we talk about how Roman is the messy eater, please???
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Kinda off topic, but with everything that came up about Butch i sometimes wonder how much real influence did he have on this shows? Even if he was the creator that doesnt mean that maybe the screenwriters and storyboarders were the ones really running the show and creating this storylines. It's hard to me now to believe that some of the best and most nuanced FOP and DP episodes came from his mind.
do you think butch hartman knows how many eggs he cracked with this
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Im dying at how three of them are roman
I don't know jack shit about the Sanders Sides, but I'll be describing the characters using information I get from tumblr
(And a lot of guessing)
A Babey!!!
Roman??? Maybe..
Has probably never said a curse word in his life
Believes in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy
I trust him with my life
Roumd and Soft
Has a Dad Joke readily available for any situation
Square man
Is this Roman?? He looks like a Roman
Who's Pat then? I know there's a Pat
He's smart
Pays taxes
And mortgages
I know nothing else about this man
He wears a tie
This is Roman (probably)
Roses appear around him like an romance anime protagonist
More dramatic than a cat who's begging for food right after sneaking into the cat food and eating the whole goddamn bag
A gentleman, would treat me right
Virgil!!
Anxiety ridden baby
The Fan favorite
Watches conspiracy documentaries at 3 am
Desperately needs a nap
Is he a bad guy???
I don't think he'd have enough energy to commit any atrocities
Deceit!!!!!!
Does he have an actual name or is it just Deceit???
A snake dude
Lies 24/7
Has a great fashion sense
I think he's a villain?
He looks like a good boy tho
Maybe a liar but not a bad person
Garbage man
Stinky
Unhinged feral animal
Up to no good
Would steal all my spaghetti and eat them uncooked
He'd put the empty milk box back in the fridge and feel no shame
Has committed every crime imaginable
Would tell Roman (#1) that Santa doesn't exist without any hesitance
I can go on
I still don't know who's Pat
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