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I understand that the new movie is more of a pilot for a children's series, which is what they take into account for this. But this is a franchise simentated in an easier context, and even a little more understandable for an adult who understands depression, existential emptiness and feelings.

I think the new movie and series errs on the side of forcing the plot when it wasn't really necessary. The first movie establishes that MetroMan and Megamind are special in that they are of alien origin. Hal being a human being who by a scientific experiment that Megamente himself obtained the powers of MetroMan, although we don't know if he can have the same potential of the alien hero (since he doesn't have the same speed as MetroMan).

It would have been interesting in this second installment to explore Megamind in another way.

What about another alien also fell on Earth, but more recent? Or simply, a being who spent his life in hiding. It could be argued that the friendly battles between Metro Man and Megamind indirectly hurt the Metro city but at the same time protected it. Now MetroMan out of the equation, this or other villains see free space to win and conquer. In fact, an enemy that is on par with Megamind's intelligence where he challenges the protagonist not by divine force, but intellectually can make Megamind question his role as hero.

Actually Megamind having a mentor contradicts the character arc. For starters, both Megamind and MetroMan followed standardized roles given to them by society and they accepted them as they felt they 'fit in'. It wasn't what they wanted, it was what others accepted of them.

How about, if a new alien from another race arrives on earth or is on earth from before. He decides to play the same game as MEgamente, and give superpowers to other human beings, with the difference that they work for him and fulfill his objectives either by mind control or just obedience. Being an opposite of what Megamind tried with Hal but did not achieve because a) his desire with Hal was to fill an emotional void and return to the comfort zone b) because his desire was for Hal to be a true hero and he never believed he could become evil.

An enemy that is a counterpart or a sample of what MegaMind would be like if he were really the evil one, a genius with dastardly intentions who doesn't care about the damage he causes to others seems much more interesting to me.

MegaMind himself never needed a mentor, and his whole arc was about dealing with his loneliness and search for acceptance, finding meaning in his life.

Now, MegaRox:

If you wanted to evolve Roxanne there are many better ways. Roxanne is clearly intelligent, cunning and intuitive. The first film never posits that she is dissatisfied or stagnant with her job, in fact, she seems to love it. In fact, her biggest conflict seems to be the lack of recognition of her by men who mostly relegate her to a woman who needs a man to be saved. This is seen both in Hal, who clearly only likes her for being attractive and feels he has a claim on her because he loves her (and because he gets powers). MetroMan only sees her as the girl he must rescue, to continue the endless game with Megamind. Clearly, they are close and possibly friends, but not a couple as Roxanne makes clear. I think it makes more sense than Roxanne, along the lines of "parodying" the superheroes in this universe. Roxanne, would not be frustrated with being a journalist but with her role in helping the hero (Megamind), maybe she doesn't just want to be saved by him, but to be a genuine help, since we know that Megamind always prioritizes her above all else. Roxanne has the potential to be an Oracle, a woman who, although she does not have the intellect to build machines, weapons or robots. She is much more insightful and deductive. Not helping in the line of fire, but helping Megamind to fight with intelligence, accessing information, and managing to deduce the necessary clues to help him in battle.

Unlike the MetroMan and MegaMind dynamic, Roxanne may now be in much more danger which may be a pressure for the blue man. He doesn't have the privileged powers of his former hero, and unlike him, other villains would be able to kill Roxanne without thinking about it (like Hal back in the day).

Megamind loves and respects her too much, so he would never relegate her. But he would be very willing to protect her and take risks to keep her safe. It makes more sense that she would want to be more useful to him, but at the same time, not be in the constant anguish of being a victim.

Roxanne can have a research center for herself, now that Megamind has the support of the city. Being able to build a better base where she can access research and technology (her boyfriend is a genius at building sophisticated gadgets), and only occasionally accompany him on research and reconnaissance adventures.

Both are clearly at a disadvantage against brute force enemies, but they are a team based on support and intelligence.

Besides, it seems contradictory to me the reboot of their relationship. I understand that in the canon of the first movie it is not verbally explained that they came back, but you sense that they will eventually come back because they are already on good terms.

Why not address their reconciliation? but following the same chemistry, which is instantaneous. They both clearly know how they feel about each other, it's understandable that Roxanne feels some confusion as she now knows she has to pose a relationship with MegaMind directly and not with Bernard's facade.

But it seems that out of nowhere, they are more distant than even at the beginning of the first movie (which clearly has a hot flirtation going on for a long time).

Bringing back Roxanne as the couple but especially as Megamind's possible partner as a kind of heroine or source of information seems to me a better plot than just giving her a change of profession.

I could say that it is my catharsis to drain how frustrated I was with the return of the franchise, which was reduced to a series with the elements of the first movie in a childish context.

Alright, so. I finally rewatched Megamind after meaning to for like two weeks or so, basically ever since the sequel movie came out. And for several reasons, nooot a fan of how the sequel was handled honestly. So, I thought with the original movie fresh in my mind, I could try to brainstorm a couple things I might have done with a sequel.

To start with, the Doom Syndicate. The original movie makes no reference to Megamind knowing any other villains, let alone ever working with them in the past. So, if they were to be included I feel it should be more in a "Oh I've heard of them, they're from that one town a couple states over" way. Acquaintances at best.

But then again, the original movie also seems to imply that if there are any other superheroes or villains, they're pretty dang rare. This isn't The Incredibles where some people are just born with super powers. I mean, no one from out of town came to try and stop Megamind after he "killed" Metro Man. With Titan/Tighten it all happened within a day so less time for outsiders to react, but Megamind had control of the city for a good while there.

So, if we want to keep the Doom Syndicate... it would need to be handled differently. Also get rid of that brain "Mentor" character. I don't really have any ideas for how, except...

Perhaps they're originally fictional in-universe, from a Saturday morning cartoon or a video game or something. One way or another, they're made real and now Megamind has to stop them and probably make them fictional again. Could also be achieved with a different set of villains.

Another way to do a new villain could be Dimensional travel. Say there's some sort of a Bizarro universe, where Metro Man was evil and Megamind was good to start with. Or both were evil and teamed up to do evil. In any case, Alternate Universe Evil Metro Man gets transported to the main universe, causes mayhem. Might even force the Metro Man we know out of retirement temporarily, or not. If he does show up in public, would probably make an excuse of how he's also from some other universe specifically summoned to help out, thus explaining why he's gone again afterwards. Dude just wants to make music.

To add, the dimensional traveling villain doesn't even need to be a version of Metro Man, they could also be anyone else. Some other alien, a dude who fell into acid and got powers from it, idk man.

Hear me out, an Evil Spider-Man of sorts. That is, someone who starts out as a normal human being, perhaps an outcast, and by some twist of fate receives powers, which they proceed to use for evil. Might be re-treading Hal's deal a little but idk what I'm doing anymore.

Evil Bruce Wayne? A rich guy with weird gadgets and the skill to use them, for evil. Would probably be harder to pull off since Megamind's whole deal is how smart he is.

A Mad Scientist type. Megamind is an Evil Scientist, but not a "mad" one, he just builds a death ray powered by the sun because he's that smart. Put him against someone whose ideas make no sense to him but somehow still work.

Misguided hero? Not really a villain but would be an antagonist for the story, someone who's convinced that Megamind's redemption is all an act maybe? Would probably need powers of some sort to be an actual threat.

Alright then, let's move onto something else for a change: MegaRox. My shipper heart needs them either clearly together or clearly working on that. But the original movie does seem to imply they're already together by the time the new museum has opened. I mean, the way she jumped into his arms and then kissed him? Sure it was on the cheek but that wasn't a platonic thing. It's about the context!

No further notes on that, so I present to you... Prequel!

Takes place before Metro Man fakes his death so he can retire, and therefore Megamind is still Evil.

MegaRox wouldn't be an established relationship but did y'all see them at the start of the original? That was practically flirting anyway and that dynamic should be present.

Maybe it could even be early into his villain career? Show how he really got started as a Super Villain, the first kidnappings of Rocanne Ritchi, gaining notoriety, and how Roxanne learned that she's honestly in more danger of getting hit by stray debris from Metro Man's dramatic entrances than from anything Megamind aims at her.

I doubt I'll ever develop any of these ideas into a coherent story but if anyone wants to yoink a thought, go wild. I'm also down for discussing any of these.

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Something that to me does not get enough focus when talking about Megamind is how very clearly into it Roxanne is the first time they kidnap her.

Like, in all honesty I would probably struggle to ship them as much as I do if not for the fact that whole first scene they have together has the kind of chemistry tailor made to punch my buttons and leave me a mess on the floor.

Roxanne up until this moment, we've seen her professional, we've seen her as an accomplished adult with a high profile job and the associated pressures that accompany it, we've seen her do the awkward soft no of dealing with a "nice guy"

And then we see her struggling with a bag over her head and all of a sudden all that soft no, all that professional poise is burned open by the thrill of getting to flirt sarcastically torment a supervillain who clearly has the power (if not the capability) to turn her into a splatter of red where she's sitting.

Is she scared? No.

Is she leaning into it like it's only two sets of zip ties holding her back? Hell yes.

Girl is living her "I am the manager." dream and she is so into not having to be nice right now.

Sure Megamind deserves love and softness and someone to understand him but come on, you just know Roxanne had at least six months worth of witty repartee just dying to come out while she was dating Bernard.

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FAN THEORY THURSDAY: What Sort of Hero Will Megamind Be?

Gasp and shock! I’ve actually managed to post two weeks in a row, and this one is even on a REAL THURSDAY! If you’re thinking about playing the lottery or taking up a career as a professional gambler, apparently this is the day to do it. Hahaha!

With luck this wonderful, maybe that one person who has never yet watched Megamind will even finally give it a go, but in case they don’t: SPOILER WARNING!

At the end of the animated movie Megamind, the former villain has, of course, just been officially named the local Defender. One question that a lot of fans have, however, is: “what sort of a hero will Megamind be?” With a new sequel series, Megamind’s Guide to Defending Your City, now in the works, this has become an even more prominent topic of discussion. Some suggest that we may witness our favorite blue genius messing up a lot, at least initially, as well as being a bit of a goofball while others propose that he may actually be excellent at his new job. Can fan theories and film evidence provide any insights? Let’s find out!

What Makes a Hero?

The first thing necessary to discern, of course, is exactly what makes someone a hero. Of course, as the Defender of Metro City, Megamind would be expected to protect the populace from threats and crimes, but that probably isn’t the sum total of the requirements. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines a hero as “a person admired for achievements and noble qualities.” What specific noble qualities are we talking about? Beyond the obvious selfless interest in the welfare of others, myriad other possibilities come to mind. Luckily, the film gives us some idea of which characteristics Megamind may choose to focus on.

During the scene inside of the Metroman Museum, Megamind, disguised as Bernard, discusses with Roxanne the required traits for a hero. These include bravery, strength, and determination. Add to this the aforementioned desire to protect and help others along with a capacity to do so and the result is a fairly good recipe for a hero. The truly interesting thing about this conversation is that, although he clearly doesn’t recognize it at the time, during the movie we see that Megamind possesses all of these qualities.

Bravery

Make no mistake, even when he was a supervillain, Megamind’s courage rated well above average. He survived numerous battles and faced off with not one but two superpowered foes. When Titan tried to kill him, he didn’t panic or freeze, but rather took immediate action, and when Roxanne needed him, he put his life on the line to save her. Even when he is falling to his apparent death, the alien genius managed to remain calm enough to keep his heart beating and devise a plan. This fellow has nerves of steel.

Perhaps most impressive of all, however, is the fact that, despite being ostracized, bullied, humiliated, and mocked all of his life, he still regularly subjected himself to the public eye. True, the blue man cares a great deal about presentation, and always put on a good show even as a villain, but I would argue that the constant dislike and rejection of everyone around him certainly had an effect.

As I mentioned last week in Hal is Not Megamind’s Greatest Enemy, it seems clear that the alien genius continued to disguise himself as Bernard while dating Roxanne because he felt certain that was the only way to spend time with her. Not only that, but his reactions to the disguise watch failing or to anyone moving too close unexpectedly make it fairly clear that he legitimately thought he might be physically attacked. (You can read more about that in What’s Hidden in the Animation.) Fan theories suggest that this all indicates he fully expected to be hated and harmed wherever he went and felt a certain amount of vulnerability as a result. Yet he continuously put himself out there, again and again, opening himself to public disdain and fighting even though he knew he would likely be hurt every time. If that isn’t bravery, I don’t know what is.

Strength

If you’ve read earlier Fan Theory Thursday posts, you already know that Megamind is inhumanly strong. He may not be able to match Metroman’s immense physical power, but he’s certainly no pushover. For example, in How Strong is Megamind we examined what occurs during the movie when Megamind punches Titan. More specifically, we discovered that the pressure behind the blue man’s blow to his enemy’s face is obviously greater than the tensile strength of a circular saw blade because it was the saw and not Megamind’s bones that broke.

A follow-up fan theory article, Megamind’s Anatomy Part 2, expanded upon this observation. The average compressive strength of a circular saw is 750 one-million Megapascal Pressure Units, or MPa, and Pounds Per Square Inch pressure (psi) can be calculated as MPa x 145. This would mean that in order to break a saw blade, someone would need over 108,000 psi. Now, of course, the edge of the blade is the weakest point, so the blue man probably isn’t actually that powerful, but he would still have to be multiple times stronger than even the most muscular human males.

Add to that the fact that, several times during the movie, Megamind picks up Roxanne Ritchi without any visible effort—who is said to be a US dress size Medium and thus estimated to weigh about 150 pounds, or 70 kilograms—and it becomes clear that, although he may look slender, Megamind is surprisingly strong. This is especially true because, given their respective sizes, Roxanne is probably a little heavy than the former villain himself, meaning that he is able to lift more than his own body weight with apparent ease. (Feel free to read the aforementioned article as well as What Would Megamind Look Like in Real Life if you would like to learn more about that.)

Determination

Of course, physical power isn’t the only kind of strength, and Megamind possesses a will every bit as puissant as his body. He and Minion were raised in prison, surrounded by adult criminals, and Megamind almost certainly had to fight to keep them safe. Nonetheless, he not only survived but thrived. He made himself into the top supervillain in Metro City. In an unused storyboard the Doom Syndicate, a band of other local Bad Guys, appears to defer to him, and, according to some fan theories, built a criminal empire from nothing.

According to the comic The Reign of Megamind, which is considered largely canon, the blue man has concocted over 600 plots before the movie even begins. He’s been defeated by Metroman every time, yet he continues to proverbially dust himself off and try once more. How many of us could face over 600 failures without ever giving up? Indeed, during the film he explains that “there is a benefit to losing; you get to learn from your mistakes." In The Reign of Megamind he echoes this sentiment, saying: “Losses are learning experiences. Defeats build determination.” And that’s not all. As I mentioned recently in Hal is Not Megamind’s Greatest Enemy, when, during his final battle with Titan, the former villain finds himself temporarily in too much pain to walk, he crawls instead. Nothing stops Megamind for long. Obviously, the blue man has determination in spades!

Selflessness

As I stated at the beginning of this post, a selfless desire look after the well-being of others in an aspect of heroism not specifically mentioned in the movie. Nonetheless, it is one that Megamind embodies. Following Titan’s attempt to murder the blue man and commencement of a city-wide rampage, Megamind goes to Roxanne for help in finding his new foe’s weakness. A less courageous and caring person might have fled, and the blue man certainly had the capacity to do so. He had a disguise watch so it isn’t as if Titan could easily identify him. If the hoverbike seemed too risky, he could have stolen a car. (After all, the alien genius was already a criminal and presumably not above grand theft auto.)

However, Megamind doesn’t leave, instead choosing to face an overpowered homicidal man-child in an effort to set things right. Despite being a supervillain and despite the callous way nearly every citizen of Metro City treated him for decades, he is willing to risk his life to save the populace. Even when he addresses his concerns to Roxanne, Megamind never so much as mentions the fact that Titan wants him dead. Rather, his primary worry is that the new Bad Guy will “destroy the whole city.” For someone who is supposedly evil, that’s a very selfless stance to take. (I go into more detail about this character trait in Megamind and Identity.)

Capability

Having the heart of a hero often isn’t enough unless one also has the ability to change negative situations. In an alternate reality where supers regularly make the battle between good and evil literal, that means being able to win a fight. Megamind certainly displays this capacity.

Not only is he strong, as I’ve said before, but he’s tough. Before the movie begins, the former villain has faced off with Metroman hundreds of times which, given his one-time nemesis’s powers, must have required a great deal of resilience. His hardened reputation is notable enough that he feels completely unthreatened in jail. Furthermore, during his confrontations with Titan, he survives his battle suit being ploughed through a multi-story building and his person being thrown against a brick wall hard enough to crack it. Of course, as I’ve mentioned before in Megamind’s Cloak, there is a fan theory that the blue man’s spikes contain electrodes that produce an energy shield which might help him endure such events. Nonetheless, he would still have to be incredibly tough.

He just as obviously knows how to fight. We see him throw a couple of good punches at Titan, fire the De-Gun without ever missing, and even expertly fence during his first battle with the film’s antagonist. Thus the blue man demonstratively knows how to use a rapier, a pistol, and his fists. Indeed, he appears to be highly skilled with all three. This has led fans to theorize that he may be trained in the use of other weapons and techniques as well. Either way, although he often relies on his inventions to get the job done, Megamind seems to be quite capable of defending himself in more traditional ways. That versatility would be a definitive advantage in any fight.

Speaking of inventions, along with his physical abilities, Megamind is also amazingly brilliant. He calls himself a genius. But “super-genius” would be more accurate. In How Smart is Megamind, I estimated that his IQ is probably around 350, significantly higher than the smartest human on record. (In fact, he beats both Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking by almost 200 points, and the estimated IQ of the smartest person on record, William James Sidis, by around 100.)

We definitely see him using that intelligence during the film. He creates things that modern scientists and engineers only dream of, such as hard light holograms, cyborgs, and a fully-functional invisibility shield—not to mention Minion’s wireless neuroprosthetic suit! He devises ingenious plots—predicting that Roxanne will reveal their location and planning around it, sending Minion, disguised with a holowatch, to buy time while he himself scans Metroman’s likeness and voice into his own device—and he thinks quickly on his feet, even under pressure. (An excellent example is when he dehydrates himself above a large fountain to survive what would otherwise likely be a fatal fall.)

Just as he invented doom devices while a villain, many suspect we will see him building advanced machines and technology as the Defender. Indeed, one fan theory draws parallels between the blue man and another black-clad superhero who relies on martial skills, intelligence, and gadgets: Batman. Given that Megamind is, to an extent, a spoof on DC comics, that supposition is not entirely unfounded.

Goodness

Finally, although he spent the majority of his adult life as a supervillain, Megamind is a good person. He respects Roxanne, calling her the smartest person he knows, and, despite clearly being attracted to her and having her in his power multiple times, he never takes advantage of her in any way. As previously mentioned, he seems to truly care about the city and its people. Indeed, he seems predisposed to care. He treats his henchman more like a friend or a brother, and dotes on his cyborgs like pets.

Beyond this, he really does have a silly, lovable side. Remember the goofiness mentioned at the beginning of this post? It’s most certainly a part of his personality. He pranks the warden, plays with the brainbots, laughs with Minion, and cracks a joke on stage when he becomes the Defender of Metro City. Even his banter is comical. He seems to have taken the time to truly know Roxanne and, while disguised as Bernard, usually plans their dates at places he knows she’ll love, such as the park and the library. Judging by his interactions with youngsters during both Button of Doom and the Bad Blue Brilliant comics, he appears to like children although he tries to hide it. He’s lively and jovial, making geeky references throughout the film and rocking out to classic heavy metal. Although he certainly takes his battles seriously, he still enjoys meeting the challenge and putting on a show. Clearly, Megamind is a legitimately good person with a fun-loving disposition and a great sense of humor. This cheerful outlook will doubtlessly help him win citizens over and keep a positive mindset.

So, what kind of hero will Megamind be? It appears probable that all of the fan theories are correct. He will likely make mistakes, but he will learn from them. He will certainly still be the same charmingly goofy blue alien we all love. However, given all of his personal qualities, he will also be a proficient and dedicated Defender. All in all, I think we can agree that Metro City is lucky to have him.

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@whateversawesome I would like to think that Yor will be the one to notice but there will be people or words that will previously notice. For example, when she meets Olka her interaction with her subsequently triggered her purpose. But it was Yor who realized it and assimilated it. Perhaps the Autem can play that role. Each person in Yor's life will be pushing the idea until she eventually finds the outcome.

Spy x Family Poll!

I've talked about Yor having feelings for Loid (here and here), but I suspect, it will take a third person mentioning something for her to realize about it. That being said...

Vote! I want to know what you think. And I'll tell you what I think when this poll is over 😎

#spy x family #twiyor #sxf #loid forger #yor forger #spy x family poll #spy x family analysis #thorn princess #loidyor

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Loid "No one bothers, accuses or assaults my wife in front of me" Forger

Very good Endo, Loid Protective Husband is canon.

Now, possible Loid Forger Jealousy is not such a distant dream.

#twiyor #spy x family #loid forger #yor forger #yor briar #loid x yor #twilight #anya forger #sxf #spyxfamily twilight

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Fiona is in shambles

#spy x family #twiyor #loid forger #yor forger

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Hey Itsmaferart! I got a sensitive question for you: Do you think nowadays, Loid’s more known for Yor and his relationship with her than him as an actual character? It could be me but I noticed a large proportion of posts with him is basically either how smitten he was with her or how he should just kiss her. Plus, I can’t shake this feeling that some people only like him for the Twiyor ship instead of his multilayered character as people don’t discuss his other relationships or character that often.

I’m not oblivious to the fact Anya and Yor are far more popular and loved, as well as, the fact their are some character interactions that we are most invested than others but it’s abit of a personal thing pet peeve of mine when people only value or like a character for a ship when said character has far more complexities and relationships beyond than that. Nothing against the ship itself btw. I like Twiyor too but it feels like a disservice imo, especially since it’s not a romantic animanga.

Hello Thank you very much for your question!!!

Well, I must say that.... yes, and it is quite normal!

I have always believed that physically Twilight has a rather conventional physique but he manages to have enough charisma to attract the reader. As Endo himself says, he has the "just a guy" effect. But you manage to connect with his motivations and actions. Twilight puts his own well-being above the mission many times. He is a man pursuing a noble purpose.

However, I think it is a theme that has developed because of the latest controversy among the fandom and not because it is something that actually happens in the story. I really understand that much of the discontent has been generated because the pace of the episodes has felt slower, Endo's constant pauses due to his possible exhaustion from work, added to the fact that there have been episodic and quiet episodes that may or may not have repercussions in the plot has made much of the fandom question the pace of the series and when it has progressed.

And this was directed at the shipp, specifically with Twiyor. Sparking a dispute that has divided whether or not Yor and Loid have really moved on, or if Twilight has a better relationship with Nightfall….. Valid arguments and some debatable ones.

In fact, we know that it is very common for fandom to focus excessively on aspects of the plot such as shipp or action plots. But as I say, it's more of a dilemma that tends to happen in fandom until eventually it's overcome and the plot continues. I don't really feel it's an issue of Endo forgetting Twilight as a character, but it's clearly necessary to see an evolution. And it's clear that her relationship with Anya and Yor are necessary to see the change between them, and the attachment it has generated.

But I do think that sometimes fandom disputes make people only see Loid as a character destined for a relationship with Yor and forget about all the other aspects. I think they should not be considered as something relevant, and not divide us for unnecessary things.

Evntually, the story itself will take its course with the characters!!! thank you for your question.

#twiyor #spy x family #yor forger #loid forger #loid x yor #yor briar #anya forger #twilight

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"I belong to Loid Forger."

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Hey there! A little question: Why is everyone always accusing Loid of being gay for not kissing or doing all kinds stuff to Yor? I don’t think it’s as easy as they are making it out to be, even though both characters are a catch…..in a mixture of red/green flaggish kinda way. I actually prefer it that both characters aren’t lusting for each other as it makes their relationship more endearing but when they start developing feelings for each other, it’s beyond their attractiveness.

I ship the every living hell out of these two but if Loid does all of those intimate stuff Yor now, I don’t know, it feels less cute, rewarding, and heartwarming and more like a fulfillment of our personal desires. I don’t think Loid is a surrogate or self insert incel character to be like that. I’m sorry if I can’t put it into words, English isn’t my strong suit but that how it feels to me.

Hi, it took me a while to respond but here it is!!

I think it's the fans' rush for couples to consolidate and there's no way to blame them, because really Twiyor is one of the good couples! The Spy x Family universe internally moves in a slow-moving manner, where events are small and focus more on the development and formation of bonds between people. There is no great interest in big events, and getting a romance is not the focal point, but a part of the story.Endo's narrative moves under its own rules and some may like it or despair.

I have read dozens of comments that talk about how slow the story is and that there is simply progress at the speed of a turtle. And yes, they are right (in part).

But the truth is that this is more a conflict of fan expectations and what the story wants to tell and how it is told.The story is not badly written and not badly developed. But not everyone may like it if you are expecting more significant advances.

So, yes, Loid is very slow and Yor very naive.... But...

that doesn't mean there's no love or that it doesn't come to pass.

I understand the frustration of the Twiyor shipper, and it is the conflict of what we interpret as intimacy and closeness. In most conventional romances, intimacy is forced through physical contact, often exaggerated or convenient. Holding hands, hugging, trying to kiss, asking each other out. The story focuses on pushing the characters to get closer and with them to generate a closeness that leads to romance.

That's why most fanfic is about them being in love or having closeness, because that's what we most want to see between them… That's why many see this romance as insipid.

Endo's approach is more emotional, calmer, where trust between two people is more important than whether they are close or not. The times when this is forced, it ends badly. The fact that Loid respects Yor enough to not make her feel uncomfortable, or that Yor wants to be Loid's refuge, speaks of a very balanced mental and emotional intimacy.

It is a more mature romance, where the focus is not so much on passion. Because when they try to make it romantic, they're both fools.

I think Endo is just trying to put his own idea of romance outside of what everyone expects, and that can bore some people.

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I suppose Endo will develop his relationship in his own way. But his main priority is the development of his people through a more everyday and chaotic life, above the spectacularity and action.… until we can finally be together

#twiyor #spy x family #yor forger #loid x yor #loid forger #yor briar #anya forger #twilight #sxf #spyxfamily twilight

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They should kiss to break the tension....

....and learn a lot from their neighbors

#twiyor #spy x family #yor forger #loid forger #loid x yor #anya forger #yor briar #sxf #twilight #spyxfamily twilight

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Man, if you want to kiss your wife, do it! No need for hints

#twiyor #loid forger #anya forger #yor forger #spy x family #loid x yor #yor briar #twilight #sxf #spyxfamily twilight

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How did you fall in love?

Him: She hit me ….

so hard!!!

Guy in denial for being too dumb + Beautiful girl who kicks his ass= Love

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Let's recap…

As I mentioned in past posts… The last few arcs have hinted that plan C: mother-friends, with Yor and Melinda may very well be in action.

That is: the constant mentions of Melinda, Loid getting the V.I.P. archis soon, Fiona's possible participation in the plan (although in her current state we don't know if she will make it), Anya and Damian's friendship (?) moving forward (?)….

In parallel, we have the advances of Twilight and Yor, Twilight recognizing his weakness by being unable to kill his brother-in-law (also enemy from SSS) because he is unable to steal his wife's happiness, and Yuri who thinks if I execute Loi-Loi is to make my sister cry…. And asking directly IF YOR LOVES LOID??

Things are moving forward people!

I feel that things are pushing that Yor evidently may be the one who is falling in love too much… maybe too much with her husband that she wants to take care of....and wants to see her brother's happiness too

And Plan C may move things forward further....!!

#twiyor #spy x family #yor forger #loid forger #loid x yor #anya forger #twilight #yor briar #sxf #spyxfamily twilight

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Yuri accidentally feeding the twiyor fandom

Oh, dear, we know you "love him" but you're not ready to say it.

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Yor felt bad about kicking Yuri out the other day, and feeling his presence she missed him

She probably told Loid that she misses her brother a little, and Loid (remembering that he could have almost killed him).

That's why he wanted to support his wife, prepare delicious food for his brother-in-law.

Because they both know that Yor's happiness depends on both of them, they may not know it but they need each other to make Yor happy.

#twiyor #spy x family #loid forger #loid x yor #yor forger #yor briar #anya forger #twilight #spyxfamily twilight #sxf #yuri briar #cloe

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@eternal-echoes The irony is that Twilight hasn't questioned the countless moments of weakness with Yor, seeing how expressive Yor is with her emotions and het constant desire for effort brings his walls down without realizing it.

It wasn't until the last arc, where Twilight comes into awareness of this weakness having left Yuri alive. And yet, her body can't help but to splutter with relief at her. And yet, a part of him is relieved to have their support.!!

For a master spy who sticks to the ironclad rule of never letting his emotions show, Twilight sure lets his guard down so easily around Yor. And the thing is, he doesn't even put much effort in keeping his walls up, it's like Yor showing genuine raw emotions melts away his stoicness. He doesn't even stop himself from telling her stuff about his past because she is so genuine when as a spy his past shouldn't exist anymore because he's just a shadow.

I believe he likes that; letting his guard down Yor and telling her his past, because when he's around Yor, he feels seen as a human being.

Her gratitude towards him affirms his existence.

#twiyor #spy x family #loid forger #yor forger #sxf analysis #sxf character analysis

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What do you think about the idea that Twiyor and Yor are ace/non-romantic?

Well, if you follow my posts you know I'm a fan of Twiyor romantic couple, so I don't know if I'm the right person to answer! 😊😊😊

Actually, I don't see any problem, each reader has the right to give his own interpretation of the work and this is not so much a matter of reading comprehension or not. After all, whatever Endo does in the manga is canon, but the way we like to understand it is our own decision.

Spy x family does not revolve around romance, so it is normal that their slow progress makes other people identify their relationship as people who appreciate each other as family without being romantic. This does not affect the story.

In many ways, Spy x family addresses many types of love. I think rather than being a debate of whether Loid and Yor are romantically linked, this should unite us as a fandom. Everyone can choose how they see their relationship, and if in the end it's not what we think, understand that this is Endo's work and it's his own vision.

Let's remember that shipps are fan headcanon (until they become official or not). In fact, many ships are sometimes of characters that have not even interacted in the canon. So, whether it's official or not, nothing prevents you from shipping romantically or not.

What I think we should be clear about is that our opinions as a fandom have no bearing on the plot. Let's just let Endo surprise us with his story and try to get along and enjoy it!

I hope I answered your question! Thanks! 😊😊😊

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