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aerequets · 12 hours
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Oh. That was when it clicked for Yor. She knew this: the hollow aching in your chest, the near permanent dread that made eating a chore, the way all your muscles seemed to perpetually be tensed. It was the fear of the impermanent, the vulnerable.
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(this is then and now chapter 8)
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animepopheart · 2 days
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★ 【Kiko.L】 「 Yor Forger 」 ☆ ✔ republished w/permission ⊳ ⊳ follow me! insta • x • bsky
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yumeka-sxf · 2 days
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Japanese Linguistic Observations in Spy x Family - part 3
Part 3 - Yor's keigo
I discussed in part 1 about the different levels of speech in Japanese, particularly how Twilight changes his speech depending on the persona he's donning. He uses keigo, the standard polite form of speech, when he's acting as Loid Forger, but uses casual speech as Twilight. Yor, however, uses keigo all the time, to a degree that some would feel is excessive, but also makes sense for her character.
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Keigo is the most basic form of polite speech in Japanese. It's the speech that's taught in pretty much every beginner Japanese learning course because it's the "safest" for most situations. Without getting too technical, it basically involves using the polite conjugations of verbs. All verbs in Japanese have a "polite" conjugation form that's used in keigo. For example, the verb "to go," 行く (iku), will change to 行きます (ikimasu): change the く(ku) to き (ki) and add -ます (-masu). -masu itself is then conjugated further to show past tense, negative tense, etc. Likewise, one would use です (desu) as the "to be" verb instead of its casual equivalent だ (da). For example, saying 車です (kuruma desu), which means "there is a car" instead of 車だ (kuruma da). It's even more casual to leave out the "to be" verb altogether.
Unlike Twilight, who changes his speech depending on who he's talking to or which facade he's using, Yor consistently uses keigo, whether she's talking to an adult like Loid, a child like Anya, and even an animal like Bond. She uses keigo with strangers as well, even those who are antagonistic to her, like the other assassins in the cruise arc.
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Even at times when using polite speech isn't warranted, like in her own thoughts, she still uses keigo regardless.
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In addition to using keigo with pretty much everyone, she also uses the polite -さん (-san) honorific with everyone's names as well. It's not unusual to do this with fellow adults like Loid, Camilla, and Franky, but when it comes to kids, especially when they're not your own kids, other honorifics are also an option. For example, adults can use the honorifics -ちゃん (-chan) for little girls and -くん (-kun) for little boys, both of which denote endearment to someone young/cute. Loid calls Damian "Damian-kun" and Fiona calls Anya "Anya-chan" for example. But Yor uses "-san" for Anya, Damian, Becky, and probably every other kid she hasn't met yet! She uses "-san" with animals as well, which isn't nearly as common. She's the only one who calls Bond "Bond-san" and she even called the cat Kopi from chapter 43, "Kopi-san."
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She also uses "-san" for people whose names she doesn't know, and in some cases, probably shouldn't show respect to. She calls the terrorists from the doggy crisis arc "terrorist-san", bad guys that she takes out on her missions "warumono-san," Olka's group "mafia-san," and the other assassins from the cruise arc "koroshiya-san."
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The only exception to Yor's excessive use of keigo is Yuri, which makes sense since it's standard practice to be more casual with a younger relative than an older relative or someone outside the family. He's the only person she refers to without "-san" (she just calls him "Yuri"). And while she does use the informal verb forms with him, she still uses "desu" and its conjugations. So overall, she's more casual with him, but not completely so.
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When talking about herself, Yor uses the standard, gender-neutral, polite word for "I"/"me," 私 (watashi). However, when talking to others, she never uses any form of "you." Like I mentioned in part 1 about how there's different ways of saying "I" and "me" in Japanese depending on the speech level, the same is true for "you." But it's always more polite to say someone's name or title instead of "you," and Yor does that all the time. Just like in part 2 how I couldn't recall any instance where Anya says "I" or "me" since she always refers to herself in third person, I can't recall any time Yor called someone "you" instead of saying their name or title.
While Loid uses the casual "you" word お前 (omae) when talking to Anya, Bond, Franky, and anyone else he doesn't have to be polite with, he doesn't use any form of "you" for Yor. He speaks to her the same way she does to him – saying her name plus "-san" instead of using "you."
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Unlike English, Japanese is a language where you don't have to say pronouns if it's understood by the context, which is why something like this is difficult to convey in a translation.
I think it's an interesting contrast that Twilight is constantly changing how he speaks depending on whether he's acting as Loid Forger, as a spy, whether he's conversing with a fellow spy like Fiona, a casual friend like Franky, someone he respects but can't be fully open with like Yor, and even how he talks to himself in his head…yet Yor is the total opposite. As I've discussed in this post, she's extremely consistent in her speech, never straying from being polite no matter who she's speaking to or whether she's in her Thorn Princess role or not, or even whether she's speaking to herself in her head or not. This just further proves that, while Yor has to keep her assassin job a secret, she doesn't have to create a fake persona for it. Unlike Twilight, who acts one way as a spy and another way as Loid Forger, and perhaps another as his "true" self, Yor doesn't feel the need to hide anything about herself other than her job as an assassin – Thorn Princess and Yor Forger are the same person who shows respect for others no matter what her relationship is with them.
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Such excessive use of keigo is odd for a fluent speaker, but it's not unheard of. There are plenty of examples of characters from other anime/manga who use keigo all the time too. I think it gives us an interesting, subtle look into their character. In Yor's case, I think her constant use of keigo comes from a combination of her sweet personality that never wants to offend anyone, but also her poor self-esteem. After all, keigo and other polite forms of Japanese speech are meant to elevate the listener while humbling the speaker. Yor speaks politely to everyone because she simply wants to be kind to everyone and make them feel comfortable, even those she has to kill, but at the same time, she often feels inferior to others.
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However, there are rare exceptions where Yor stops using keigo which are, appropriately, during very suspenseful, high-stakes moments where politeness would be the least of her worries. For example, during her fight with Barnaby when she realizes she's holding back, she starts using casual speech. But she goes back to keigo before too long.
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But probably the most notable example of her completely dropping keigo is near the end of her big battle against the assassins on the cruise ship, where she finally comes to realize what she's fighting for. During her whole epiphany scene – starting from when she thinks of Yuri and herself as kids until she stands up and says she won't stop fighting – she switches completely to casual speech.
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There are many ways to interpret this, but I think it shows what an emotional revelation this was for her: she remembered that the suffering in the world is what caused her to want to protect Yuri from any kind of tragedy, and now the same can be said for Loid, Anya, and Bond. She remembered the words of acceptance she heard from Loid when they first met, words no one else had likely ever said to her before. She realized that she didn't care what happened to her as long as she could stop anything bad from happening to her loved ones – in that moment, no formalities were necessary with such intense self-reflection.
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<- Return to Part 2
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l-antre-de-cecile · 2 days
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Saturday
A SxF fanart I totally forgot to post oopsie
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roucaelum-art · 17 hours
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Yor with this dress 🔥
Real dress and source: archivedlooks
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blue-hail · 1 day
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Just finished the Spyxfamily movie and can we talk about that fact that while Loid was fighting a big bad general they made Yor fight a CYBORG with GUNS FOR ARMS cuz it was the only POSSIBLE thing they could think of that could believably hold back yor and they STILL had to make a point that knifes didn’t work cuz otherwise she would have won immediately… my girl is really op and they know it
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i like how loid, even in the role as anya's parent and ultimate authority figure, always treats anya as a person. he takes her wants into consideration (like when she says she doesnt want to go to school if she cant have a dog, he takes her seriously and never considers forcing her) and when she asks to do thinks on her own (with supervision and realistically) he obliges. anya, who was treated as the property and as a sub-human at the beginning of her life, to be adopted and returned by people trying to control her. and loid, who never sees her as anything other than a human being.
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juuyeah · 1 day
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It is just another birthday...
I was very lucky to work on this adorable commission! 💕
I also opened a new type of commission for this style of art :
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local-lamppost · 3 days
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Quiet Protagonists
I'm not sure if others have come to this same conclusion, but another reason I love Spy x Family is for how quiet the leads are.
Sure they can be loud and exuberant, but that is only during times when they are trying to make a spectacle of themselves (or Yor is drunk).
A lot of the absurdity or volume you usually get from shows (especially comedy) only happens in their heads. Even then, these drawn out sequences for us the viewer is less than a second for the characters.
Loid comes off as the cool, collected, and calculating spy or the happy, family man, father; while on the inside he is always one step away from a panic attack.
Yor is the warm, overly polite, and naive clerk or an unbeatable assassin; but in her own head she is constantly worried about managing her strength or killing everyone around her to get out of small talk.
Then there is Anya. Anya is four and has daydreams and imaginings to match this. As a telepath, she is naturally in her own head quite a bit and isn't the chattiest amongst her friends. Meanwhile, Anya's mind is where we the audience experience the majority of the chaos found in every other characters minds.
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lunarheiress · 2 days
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Twilight is simultaneously the most dad and the least dad at the same time. The spy analysis of his kid is so un-dad that is clashes side by side with his dry-humor dad moments. All those times he talks about getting things for Anya if they’re available to rent, or (my all time favorite) when she’s trying to do the report on a parent’s job and misses the mark with yor. Twilight arrives and she’s too done to explain it again so I’m pretty sure she literally says blah blah blah and he answers “ah yes I see” or something like that. It’s just soooo dad. It clashes so much and I really like the idea that it’s his own actual personality that’s clashing with his role as a spy. So when he’s being un dad it’s from all his spy training and when he’s being dad it’s just him? That’s probably not it but it’s a nice thought. I’m trying to find more examples but im too busy laughing at their nonsense these people hve no idea how a nuclear family works and they are all far too intelligent (yes all three of them) to make it work.
Oh oh oh or all those moments where he’s really taken off guard like when he’s shocked that Anya knows what 2/8ths means or when toe’s food tasted good. Moments of absolute shock that make his voice go up an octave.
I also love yor and loid and anya doing the whole ‘papa and mama are flirting’ ‘no we are not!!!’ I laugh every time. Maybe I just love this show.
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whistle-whisper · 23 hours
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wildgirl86 · 2 days
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Heart 💕
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whateversawesome · 15 hours
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Birthdays
Thank you to @juuyeah for her amazing work 💖on this fanart for my fic "Birthdays" (you can read it here on ao3).
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Working with Juu was fantastic! She is open for comms. Support her get yours here:
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SPOILERS FOR SPY X FAMILY: CODE WHITE
So I've just seen the new Spy x Family movie twice, and it's gotten me curious as to what y'all's opinions are on a specific part.
There are two parts of the movie where Loid and Yor's thoughts are hidden from us:
Firstly, at the ferris wheel, she asks if they are flirting aggressively, causing both parents to look away while we hear the special jingle, meaning her telepathy was activated. We never actually hear what either one of them were thinking though.
Secondly, when Loid looks at Anya after realizing that the reason she left the hotel room was to get the cherry liquor that they needed. Again, we hear her jingle but never what she is picking up.
Both instances led to Anya looking really happy, so it's safe to assume that, in both instances, they were good thoughts, but I'm curious as to what they actually were.
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ch-erryblossom · 3 days
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Family Time 💚✨🩶
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sxfmangacaps · 21 hours
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