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bracketsoffear · 10 months

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Baron from the Baronies propaganda:

Baron: "Why did you do such a thing, Riz Gukgak? Why did you make me up wholecloth from your mind? [...] There's a reason you made me up, Riz Gukgak. You would not have lied so frivolously. You love the truth. You seek it so much you cut your hands upon the insides of crystals. But, you use deception to protect yourself from something you fear. What do you fear, Riz Gukgak?"

Riz: "You're because everybody else is hookin' up. People do it, people hook up, it's normal. And I'm not super into that, so I made you up so that there wouldn't be any questions."

Baron: "Why do you think your friends keep you around, Riz Gukgak? If it had not been for detention on your first day of school, and for you to solve this little mystery, do you think they'd look at you as someone they can truly understand? Or are you just a funny little thing that finds the clues?"

Baron: "The years will go by, and everyone will find someone that matters more to them than you."

Baron: "You are unlike Ragh. You are unlike Gorgug. But do you know who you are most unlike? [...] You are most unlike your mother and your father."

Brennan: "And you watch the way your mother and father look at each other. How sauve and debonair your father is. How confident and poised your mother is."

Baron: "Do you know I know you are not like them, Riz Gukgak? Because, they were not afraid that they were nothing more than a ball."

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ot3 · 2 years

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dont take me wrong i saw the twt situation and absolutely dont want to frame you as a villain or whatever but ur answer was way too harsh for what it was and u should just own to it and not try to justify it. it happens it's no big deal. i also often get annoying replies but that's the risk of publicly posting especially when u post even jokingly an open question. ppl aren't in your head to know what u are willing to discuss or not the same way you aren't in their to know that they will start a conversation ur not interested to have.

man this is a really obnoxious and condescending message to get and you're definitely one of the people who should be taking a moment to ask yourself if this is an appropriate way to engage with a stranger, because it absolutely isn't, especially not if you're going to stay on anon.

First of all, i quite literally started this all off by saying I was too snippy and that I wanted to apologize. That was quite literally the first thing I said. I don't think continuing to be frustrated with the way people engage with me online means I'm somehow weaseling out of owning up to my shit. I have a nasty temper. I know that.

Getting frustrating comments from internet strangers isn't just an occasional thing, it is pretty much multiple times a day every day. I have nearly eight hundred unanswered messages in my tumblr inbox right now. I know people can't read my mind which is why I try to be patient, but sometimes I reach a limit on patience and end up being snippy. Sue me.

But while it's true people can't read my mind, I think 'assume anyone is interested and willing to discuss things with you unless you have a specific reason to Not Believe That' is bad form as well. Why is it the job of everyone online to be polite to every random person who comes wandering into their replies, but not the job of people online to be considerate about the conversation they choose to strike up?

If you want to start a conversation about a post with your followers, it's very easy to just retweet something and then add a follow up 'lrt' tweet with your commentary. Quote retweets are also good for this, as rather than every part of the thread being A Conversation I'm Involved In, it begins a new thread. Or they could just make their own tweet wholecloth. You're not required to directly reply to the OP. If someone chooses to specifically and directly engage with me in a reply, I don't see why I'm expected to reply like I'm the front desk employee at best buy and problem solve with them or something. They are coming onto my account to engage with me.

This is also a nitpick, but I think it is kind of important. My original post was not an open ended question. I phrased something as a question, and then immediately answered that question myself in the next sentence. That's not an open-ended prompt for discussion, it's one complete thought. So when I make a post that says one thing extremely clearly, and someone then @'s me to say "actually, i want to talk about something that is a completely different interpretation than the thing you just said!" that to me is just deeply annoying.

Really what's the point of sending this message? Why did you send this? In what world did you think this would do anything other than put me in an even worse mood where i am significantly less inclined to be responding to people online with any goodwill. There are very few things I can think of that pays worse dividends than trying to correct someone's manners through an anonymous tumblr ask.

I want you to actually answer me right now. I want you to send a follow up here, since you're so gung-ho about having amiable discussions with internet strangers. What was the point of sending me this ask when I have already admitted to being in the wrong?

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profanityandprophecy · 7 years

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Non-Theistic Stabat Mater Dolorosa (V1): Creation & Lyrics

I think I finished my non-theistic translation of the lyrics of the Stabat Mater Dolorosa that were in the Gather Comprehensive (1st edition) hymnal. (Yes, these are not the older English translations. Yes, these are copyrighted editions. But they’re the ones I learned growing up. Yes, I can probably get in trouble posting these here. I might do the public domain ones sometime.)

Theologically...

0.) We keep the basic story intact. Jesus dies on a cross, Mary watches.

1.) It views Mary’s sorrow as sorrow at losing her son, as well as sorrow at losing a good and innocent man.

2.) Mary is not referred to as Virgin. Reference to her as Mother is kept in, as within this framework, we’re relating to her through a Mother archetype.

3.) Jesus, in the tradition of the Unitarian Christians, is not seen as Divine, but as a Good man: as a teacher & example of how to live a goodly life. All references to Jesus as Christ are removed, capitalizations are changed.

4.) A lyric referring to him being harmed for our salvation is left in, with the theology in mind that a.) that’s what his intention was and b.) the salvation is not so much in the resurrection and forgiveness of sins so we won’t go to hell, but we are being saved from “harmful ways of life = sin” that destroys relationships by his teachings on how to live good lives.

5.) However, It’s difficult to understand why we want to feel her pain and anguish and how that relates to being good, or improvement. OTOH, it’s not exactly obvious by the lyrics of the song anyway... it helps to know Christian theology for that. (The answer is... it is good to feel badly over bad things happening. May we never be desensitized to wrong happening to good people. May it inspire us towards righteousness.)

6.) Few changes are required for the first couple of verses, namely 1-4. Pretty much the only changes are capitalization.

7.) Vs. 12 might still be problematic... frankly, it’s late and I’m tired, so I probably got a little lazy with it. And by lazy, I mean kept it wholecloth. (11, as well, but it’s not as problematic.) However, it’s also beautiful imagery.

7.5) okay, I guess there’s more places that I play a little fast and loose with the theology. Finding the proper balance between leaving stuff in for metaphor’s sake or for imagery’s sake, and having it meet our theology EXACTLY is difficult. ANd I’m not sure what side I should err on. So I’m trying different things.

8.) Vs. 13 is pretty much wholly new invention. (I just couldn’t find any way to translate what was there into our theology.) 15 is the strongest stance we’ve ever taken on the afterlife. I feel the need to note that our official stance is “we don’t know, but we hope everyone gets the afterlife they want, if any” But this worked, and once again, tired. I might change the last stanza.98.) 14 is a little strongly worded. I wanted it to be more hopeful and wishful instead of asserted that it definitely would be seen that way, but I couldn’t make it work with the meter. (Also: the last stanza echoes our song “May We Pursue a Life of Pure Integrity”)

9.) In vs 8, the word mirror is to be pronounced as a single syllable. “mirr” Same for finally in the last verse. “Fine’ly”

Why are we doing this? 1.) It’s a beautiful piece. 2.) because I want to use a wide variety of church musical traditions, including very old church works to a) retain & teach the history and b) retain & teach the culture of Christianity (for those who didn’t grow up with it to learn it for familiarity’s sake, and for those who did grow up with it to keep the old familiar stuff because it’s comforting) (One of the cool things of growing up Catholic is you’re part of something VERY VERY OLD. Not as old as Judaism, mind you, but still. This piece, the music is from somewhere in the mid 1200s to early 1300s!) 3.) I think there are lessons here even for non-Christians. 4.) Translating those lessons into interfaith, interpath, theistically neutral concepts... that’s kinda my thing.

The lyrics are below the cut.

At the cross her station keeping, Mary stood in sorrow weeping, when her son was crucified.

While she waited in her anguish, with Jesus in torment languish, Bitter sorrow pierced her heart.

With what pain and desolation, with what noble resignation, Mary watched her dying son.

Ever patient in her yearning, though her tear-filled eyes were burning, Mary gazed upon her son.

Who, that sorrow contemplating, on that passion meditating, would not share dear Mary's grief?

Him, she saw, for our salvation, scourged with cruel acclamation, bruised and beaten by the rod

She saw him with life-blood failing, all her anguish unavailing, saw him breathe his very last

Mary, mirror of love’s devotion, let me share with true emotion, all the sorrow you endured

Mother, caring, Mother, kind, your life may I keep in mind, fire me with your love of Right

May our fervent wish be granted, that great love may be implanted, in the depths of our poor souls

At the cross, your sorrow sharing, all your grief and torment bearing, let me stand and mourn with you.

Fairest maid of all creation, queen of hope and consolation let me feel your grief sublime

Mary may I go befriend all, and in justice go defend all, persecuted unjustly

When my life shall finally leave me, reputation may precede me, a life of integrity

After life is finally done, perhaps we may (all) be as one, may our souls all rest in peace

#stabat mater dolorosa #at the cross her station keeping #Good Friday #my writings #my work #non-theistic Christianity #nontheistic Christianity #post-theistic Christianity #posttheistic Christianity #religious humanism #spiritual humanism

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