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what do you think the lupins think about sirius getting disowned? ofc hope wouldn’t know the history behind his family, but would that change anything in lyall’s mind about his opinion of sirius? and how would hope handle it? I imagine she would try to be as welcoming as possible, not just because it’s in her nature and she would have done that anyway, but also because there’s more on the line since she wouldn’t want him to feel turned away by her (lyall… a diff story isn’t it). also, I don’t think she would see it as “he got disowned by a powerful wizarding family” but rather “he got turned away by his own parents” yk?

hello hello 2 u both!! to some extent my thoughts on this depend on how well they really know sirius when this happens, which i imagine to be--not very (at least in lyall's case--i reckon he kept his distance from sirius as remus' friend, but had less of a choice about this once sirius was remus' boyfriend). also--im not sure when they'd find out? would remus tell them? i definitely dont think he'd tell them about stuff like the prank, though admittedly this isn't really a similar thing.

anyway, going off the basis that they find out around when it happens, i agree with first anon that hope would be very welcoming about it (though she always would be), and probably wouldnt have had a dissimilar reaction to the potters if sirius had turned up on their doorstep rather than james', despite the fact that the lupins definitely have less money and means with which to take in another sixteen year old boy. seeing as she isn't familiar with the noble and most ancient shit surrounding sirius' family, her perception of sirius would pretty much always b shaped by remus' relationship with him, and therefore she trusts that he's a good person + friend who's had a shite deal. so as u say, in that situation she just sees a boy whose parents treated him so poorly that he had no option but to leave, and therefore feels a need to make it clear that he is loved + welcomed in their home and would probably be even more on lyall's case about the way he thinks of him.

i don't imagine lyall to have had many run-ins with sirius at this point, honestly. i can't imagine he's been to their house that many times, and so its one of those dad situations where you can have a bestfriend for six years that you regularly mention at home and your dad has still only clapped eyes on/spoken to them like...twice, in all that time. nevertheless, he's heard of sirius' family, and that's largely responsible for how he views sirius (+ the fact that he views sirius...negatively). i think he only really starts meeting sirius for himself more regularly once he's dating remus, and for the sake of this conversation we're going to say that's after sirius is disowned, though it could well be before. as for his view on it...at first i honestly don't think he'd care much. i can't see him doing a sharp 180 on his view of sirius, the same way he couldn't have done a sharp 180 on his view of werewolves after remus was bitten. i imagine initially he sort of thinks, well, ok, he's disowned, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's any better than them. it could well just mean that there were disagreements within the family or he didn't want to live up to his role as heir or they're all just horrible people, and sirius removing himself from that situation does not necessarily, as far as lyall is concerned, demonstrate some great difference in character between him and the rest of his family. lyall is constantly wary of the danger that pureblood families like the blacks + their ideologies pose to his son, which massively affects his (rather dogmatic) attitude towards sirius. he accepts sirius' friendship with remus, he's never going to do anything to try and intervene there, but he never quite trusts him.

i think this is roughly his initial view, but over time + particularly after r/s start dating, and become adults who live together + it becomes undeniable that sirius intends to make a life with his son, lyall gradually accepts that sirius must actually be alright, and that there must actually be some differences between him and his family that were reflected in his being disowned as a boy. by now they aren't really going to see each other all that much anymore anyway, but he does definitely make his peace with sirius and his intentions towards remus.

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