#this holds true unless KH3 will make it wrong

[madfictionland]

Master Xehanort - NOT a flawless mastermind!

I’m always having trouble to understand people in KH ‘discourse’. They have every right to hate the series for many different reasons, please be my guest, but they usually do it with this silly argument that it’s so damn lame and impossible for Master Xehanort to plan all of this and predict so many variables... But I’m like... he didn’t, really... so what’s your problem even...

Sure, Xehanort kind of takes the credit for everything that happened (in DDD) and makes it sound like everything went ‘according to plan,’ but I thought that’s just what villains do, you know? Despite some setbacks, especially *when their other splintered selfs still achieve results that ultimately lead to his final goals*, it is actually fair to claim the credit. In the end it turned out perfectly well and Master Xehanort learnt a big deal of things. And knowledge is extremely important in his line of business. In the end, he WAS too eager regarding creation of his own pure light and darkness which wasn’t the right way.

But it seems like people don’t even live in a logical world anymore (once they decided they don’t like the direction the series took) and they need everything explained by characters for some reason, like a lenghty lecture from Master Xehanort perhaps... with admission after admission about where his initial plans went wrong and how exactly (which is ludicrous to expect even).

Here is a quick look at things he DID NOT predict/planned for:

1. He never planned to be defeated by Aqua and for amnesia Terranort to be created.

2. He never planned for amnesia-esque (thus less efficient) Ansem and Xemnas.

3. He never planned for the exact timing of DDD meeting and his recompletion. His words about how ‘it’s been decided’ are to be taken with a grain of salt, naturally, since Nomura’s concept of time is tricky and *kind of* fixed (since it does happen... it’s ALL been decided already, apparently). And Master Xehanort himself, despite his ambitions and discoveries, seems to be a strong proponent of ‘fate’ which corresponds with that rule of time. He took interest in Ventus because he felt like it was destiny, after all, and there are more instances of such thinking behind Xehanort.

4. He never planned for Ansem and Xemnas to be defeated since he never planned for their creation in the first place.

Now, it doesn’t mean his plans begun and ended in BBS. BBS focuses exclusively on his ambitions and schemes sorrounding Ventus and Terra but there was clearly more behind the man. Including vast knowledge about the lore, nature of the world, hearts and darkness. He did study everything about a keyblade and keyblade war which is a messed-up subject in and of itself, with so many things unclear and hopefully to be explained in KH3. Pure light and darkness? X-blade shuttered into 20 pieces? 7 pure hearts? Hearts born from darkness? Keyblade War connected to Kingdom Hearts? Door to Darkness connected to Kingdom Hearts? Maybe they’re all just legends, hence so many different stories and unclear answers? or at least that’s an explanation they can go with, so it’ll make sense. In any case, all of them crucial info for Xehanort and something to keep in mind when scheming!

See... there are so many things that it’s actually hard to get your priorities straight. I actually know this feeling pretty well when it comes to personal life or fandom activities!

So what did he plan or what were his ideas, logically?

1. Whatever his destination... Norting other people along the way seemed like a great idea (the first experiment being Braig/Vanitas most likely). But what he wanted for his original self was a perfect young vessel such as Ven or Terra, a keyblade wielder.

2. Looking for ways to forge the x-blade/make Kingdom Hearts manifest itself he already learnt of the 20 pieces of it and 7 lights. Whether there is an actual utilization behind number 13... or maybe he thought it was edgy and cool which would be character-accurate if you ask me... the idea behind 13 versions of himself working in perfect unison towards their shared goal was easily hatched. If only the Nortification technike proved to be working... possibilities were endless.

3. Maleficent seemed like a perfect candidate to be set on a path towards 7 princesses. Something crucial and what could come in handy - regarding the Door to Darkness or even the x-blade.

4. He did know how to time travel so he certainly had such an option in mind and taking into account his established, natural curiosity with the world... and with extremes such as darkness/keyblade war... not surprising he would be willing to test it and utilize it. However, it required to abondon his body which he wasn’t going to do just yet. Plus: it would be a very experimental endevour and he had better things to do. (But do you know who did think it was a great idea and felt compelled to initiate it, despite his other ambitions? Ansem Seeker of Darkness, the most brazen and insane version of Xehanort. The premise was literally about gathering 13 “seekers” of darkness so makes sense considering his own strong obsessions.)

5. Knowing that he has many different things to explore (because he has barely even scratched the surface), other than his main goal... he probably did plan to split himself into a heartless and nobody, eventually. He never really got a chance to do it and have his two halfs cooperate in perfect union (which was clearly not the case with Ansem and Xemnas). We’re to assume that amnesia Xehanort, at some point, did remember this original idea of MX, and acted accordingly.

Master Xehanort was an explorer and ambitious darkness wielder. I’m sure there was no shortage of original ideas, pathways and new, potential plans. But in the end, he had Ventus and his main attention and hopes were to exploit him to forge the x-blade. In his eagerness, that’s what he put most of his energy into during BBS. He never really realized or even initiated most of those other plans and ideas. Well... at least not on his own...

But just as Young Xehanort’s heart led him to explore the outside world (which may actually be due to fixed ‘time paradox’) in the same way different versions of Xehanort felt compelled to put into motion different fragments of his plans and ideas. Destiny and fate, the strange feeling and exploration of the unknown and darkness, something that drives Xehanort forward, very similar to how Sora is guided by his heart and in contrast to it. His younger self captures it perfectly and even though his older self (+ other incarnations) act and maybe even feel like they are in control of everything they do to achieve their own goals... at their core they’re still guided by this basic premise:

Both the irony and fascinating factor behind Xehanort. Whenever he is delayed or his plans go not as planned... all these events may still contribute to the final outcome. In the end, he was destined to end up there. So in essence, all went according to plan and his ambitions continue to progress. All of this while the old man Xehanort, his ‘original’ self... sleeps in sort of limbo state.

Now what one needs to understand to even begin to comprehend what Nomura was going for here (which most people don’t care about and it’s actually understandable, all things considered) is that Xehanort exists across many different layers of self and even planes of existence/reality (as a force of darkness or a more spiritual force in his own and Terra’s body).

There is NO ONE PERFECT MASTERPLAN.

What we have here is basically:

- Xehanort’s plan put into motion in BBS - which failed to achieve his master goal (although he did Norted Braig and maybe Vanitas).

- Apprentice Xehanort does his research and formulates some of the plans and ambitions that are later passed on to Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas, along with Apprentice Xehanort’s history and sense of self (he is aided by Nort!Braig in hopes that Master Xehanort will eventually regain his complete memory and sense of self).

- Apprentice Xehanort - being Xehanort - gets obsessed with the darkness and hearts very quickly and achieves a certain mastery. Some of it may be his heart guiding him, despite amnesia. Some of it may be actual memories resurfacing. That leads to him being able to summon his keyblade and extract his heart, though his identity is still pretty twisted and memories incomplete (calls himself Ansem, just like he did in the reports). This twisted sense of self continues into Xemnas/Ansem.

- Ansem pursues his own ambitions and curiosity regarding Kingdom Hearts, Door to Darkness and Darkness. He makes good use of Maleficent (earlier set on a path by MX) and, recalling some of his original Destiny Island’s past, tries to posses Riku (similarities between the two are just too big and you can see why Ansem was so stubborn about Riku’s body).

- Xemnas aspires to become one with Kingdom Hearts of released hearts and achieve eternity, at his highest “tragic villain” moments being influenced by more humane aspects of Apprentice Xehanort and possibly Terra (”Unfortunately, I don’t remember joy”). But beyond that, he is still Xehanort and everything that the man entails, for the most part...

Most of Apprentice/Ansem/Xemnas’es plans, knowledge and ambitions came from MX’s memories that they were able to access OR - what’s more likely - they were simply influenced by them, at first unknowingly. Furthermore, at the peak of their power - especially Xemnas and Ansem - they may recall a great deal of their past and true purpose. But it doesn’t mean they cooperate in perfect unison - because they don’t really know everything, miss important pieces of the puzzle (like keyblade war, for example) and remain their unique, unstable beings, with their own share of drama and goals. Which is why they have self preservation insticts and desire to succeed at their own goals (that wouldn’t be the case if there wasn’t any amnesia factor involved... with their sense of self being 100% Xehanort). But EVEN THEN... there is a catch. They share Xehanort’s core feature - which is this compulsive instint to follow *fate* whenever it presents itself and explore the unknown without fear nor care for one’s safety. Plus, due to different factors, they are far less stable in the sanity department! THAT’S WHY:

- Driven by some of MX’s memories (Point 2 and 4 of MX’s ideas) Ansem explores time travel and meets his younger self whom he directs on the path towards 13 Seekers of Darkness, a ‘crazy’ fail-safe which is actually a part of fixed time paradox...

- Xemnas is actively working towards Nortification project which is the true main goal and premise behind the Organization and their many detours/experiments all along.

- After being visited by Young Xehanort (at some point prior to their respective failures) - they join him without hesitation and serve under the new organiztion and their recompleted self in the future. We are to assume that Young Xehanort (who observed everything through time travel) educated them, hence they know all about their failures and events they missed.

Now, all of those big plans happen simultaneously and, for the most part, independently from one another. It’s not a single master plan but when you have so many versions of yourself somewhere out there... the odds are really in your favor. And that’s not even thanks to Master Xehanort being an efficient mastermind villain (which he is only to some extent) but due to his enormous drive to pursue Kingdom Hearts and study the dark unknown around him. Which is true for all versions of Xenahort, especially those strongly associated with his original self and not influenced by 'lesser’ traits of vessel personas (Braig’s light attitude, for example, since, as a Nort, he is kind of impatient for the final destination but NOT curious enough to dedicate himself fully to all the research and detours).

So even if his BBS plan failed and main variables shift all the time - in the end Master Xehanort remains on top. Not thanks to him, really, but kind of thanks to him. And guess what? Once he returns and recomplates himself... he actually feels like he’s been doing all these things and he gets to keep all knowlegde gathered in the process. Despite setbacks, fate has clearly been in his favor and he emraces it.

Master Xehanort is NOT a perfect chess master, directly responsible for everything that’s happened in the world of KH. But he IS an efficient short-term strategist with many ideas (as we saw in BBS) who, despite his grand goal of becoming god-like, is both driven by and strongly intertwined with fate. Sure, there are many confusing elements to it and time travel in particular wasn’t explained too well, but all things considered - MX not being such a flawless mastermind is why I still love this villain!

#master xehanort #xehanort #kingdom hearts xehanort #kingdom hearts #kingdom hearts master xehanort #and yes he is recently being shows playing chess... #but the opening with him in KH3 being a 'a chess master' behind KH1 and KH2 is just an asthetic thing #not a 100% perfect plan that he created for everything to unfold the way it did #this holds true unless KH3 will make it wrong #which i don't think it will but please no spoilers #kingdom hearts reflections

[khdiscussions]

Huge Breakdown: Sleeping Realms Theory

 Tl:dr, I still don’t like the theory, and my rebuttal had almost zero points proven otherwise and you can read the whole thing below of my liveblogging.

The fact that they call Riku’s act an “Act of true love” first of all makes me believe this is meant to sell canon SoRiku and I’m already unimpressed. It shows biased phrasing and takes away from any credibility this theory could ever have with anybody who isn’t a SoRiku shipper because it is ultimately pushing that Sora and Riku are going to be romantically involved and as somebody who really needs to edit her ship list and remove SoRiku...no.

...Okay so the Ultimania already proved this wrong I don’t even have to go through the rest.

Before I go into it, I can see how from just reading their summary, you can fall into the trap, however, the Realm of Sleep and Dreaming Worlds are ultimately the same thing. You cannot enter the Realm of Sleep without Dreaming Worlds unless you are coming to the brink between it and death. As such, it would still require every world Sora visits to be a Dreaming World, and thus have fallen into darkness. Since we know this isn’t the case, my “Alpha Timeline” and “Beta Timeline” labels are fully and 100% accurate. Even the way they describe it “World Line” implies and Alpha and Beta Timeline. If we ignore that KHUx is confirmed to be taking place in data still, the world lines cannot be in the same timeline, as they’d be two separate universes. Meaning the events of Alpha Timeline and Beta Timeline are two separate entities and cannot be condensed into the same Realm.

Meaning even if this is Beta Timeline, Alpha Timeline and anything that happened in it are factually irrelevant, because when Sora and co. slip into the alternate Worldline, because essentially the events of it don’t come to pass or matter. If this was real parallel worlds split, then even if Sora is now inhabiting the mind of his Beta Timeline counterpart (which for the record, he should have his memories if he’s the one who brought them all back) there still needs to be a Beta Riku, a Beta Kairi, etc, otherwise there wouldn’t be Xehanort attacking and even then.

If this is a separate worldline then that still wouldn’t be counted as the same timeline, however. Which the Ultimania directly argues against in its pages when things occur in a single timeline, but I digress.

Other things I find directly wrong as conflicting with power is Sora directly states in KH3 that it was Kairi’s faith in him and her light (her powers alone) that helped him hold his form. Not the PoH’s.

“Riku’s strength comes from his love for Sora”

Actually, in that scene they’re talking about how Riku wants to rescue Aqua, and that’s his desire to “protect what matters.” This is a line that has been paralleled in several games from Riku (most notably in which is Kingdom Hearts 3D) and given the line makes him flashback to Terra, it’s likely that his strength is actually being explained as coming from protecting the people he cared about. Aqua, who gave him the chance to escape the RoD (who he’s trying to protect), Terra, who gave him the Keyblade in the first place, and Sora and Kairi, his two best friends.

When facing the same way, there are also several difference in KH3D’s and KH3′s hair that stand out. They aren’t the same and they point that out in the theory. In this case I don’t think it’s similar enough to be of note.

Second, this does not explain how and why Riku dropped and since he is still dropping a) In the Realm of Darkness into a different realm and different World Line and b) Into a completely separate World Line when he should still be alive in the first. At this point, Riku is alive in the Alpha Timeline and would have no idea of his impending death. A drop should not be necessary. So my Riku point questioning why is still valid.

Xigbar cutting out is also a direct easter egg to us, the viewers to keep us from understanding what’s happening, and not what actually occurs in the game. 

...I want to quit at the logo having bad graphics gradient being used as evidence but I’ll keep going but this kind of shady business practice would likely cause such an amount in distrust that sales after KH3 would plummet and anybody who buys what is the biggest release of the series to be told it’s only that in technicality has no standards. I’m sorry. If this is actually technically KHII.9 my trust in Square and Disney (especially Disney is important, because you should know I am Disney stan 69 and see them as good) is gone. Just poof, gone. No more. And I wouldn’t want to invest in the next big entry because what if it’s just another lie.

(Nitpick: Nomura said an early world in KH3 would be Twilight Town, not that it would be the very first world. Even then, had 0.2 been packaged with KH3 like initially planned, it’s highly likely it and Olympus would’ve been 2.9 anyways.)

(More nitpicks, the TWEWY explanation does not account for the fact that Joshua actually has power to bring people back to life so long as a shred of their soul exists. It sounds like Shibuya got destroyed and Josh saved what little was left of his friends to take to somewhere they could be safe, not necessarily that the Sleeping Realm in specific called out to him. This is again Nitpicking.)

Ansem Reports foreshadow an old plot twist that’s not even valid. Aqua’s magic is now the source that rescued Kairi, not Xehanort’s experiments sending her away. Kairi being flung out the door is also representative of the events of the Island falling and them losing their safety and shelter. It’s not Kairi herself, but Ansem’s arrival on the islands that Xehanort is talking about.

Everything about this seems like it’s trying to invalidate SoKai with the Paopu fruit scene. She eats the fruit. Maybe if you hadn’t opened with “Riku loves Sora and this is Riku’s act of true love” I’d buy that this is real but as it stands the authors come off as salty that SoKai got a Paopu sharing scene.

Kairi’s death is the release of her heart as Nomura called it directly in the Ultimania. I know this was written before the Ultimania’s release but moving on it’s not a death sequence. Even then her death resembles Xion’s so it’d be more inline with the Replica theory floating around, so not a Dream Eater.

“Kairi is the Darkside in the Dive” No.

Even if Kairi did die, her heart has no darkness, all that would happen is she’d fade into darkness. She cannot physically form any dark entity, let alone one that has always been connected to the darkness in Sora’s heart. And yes I read how they point out that it’s made of water but that’s because it’s literally made from the Final World itself. As for where Kairi’s heart is, canon answers this. It’s waiting for Sora, because the Heartless cannot kill or steal her heart through the Lich. Remember back to KH1? Kairi had lost her heart, but rather than form a Heartless, all we got is a body. 

More Ultimania tidbits disproving this, but the Dive to the Heart is meant to take place after the entirety of KH3. This means it’s after Sora leaves to rescue Kairi and has beaten Xehanort.

Kairi being a Chirithy theory my points are still valid on because it doesn’t work. Kairi cannot be a Chirithy because we see her after the drop point in her KH2 outfit. Therefore meaning the cat ears have nothing to do with her after the drop point.

Point on the Dream Portals is accurate and inaccurate. It says they’re ways to travel to other worlds, but everytime they’re used it’s in exactly that way in game. The two pink locations bring Sora closer to the Realm of Light after the Final World, and the second portal takes him into Scala ad Caelum, another world. It ain’t that deep.

More points, Dream Eaters don’t just exist in the Realm of Sleep. Summoning Meow Wow and friends does not matter if they can exist outside of the Realm of Sleep. Scala ad Caelum is implied to be a special world to begin with and I’ll be honest, the Caribbean is probably for ease of gameplay. If anything, I would be more curious in how water in the Realm of Sleep (and memories re:CoM) allows people to walk.

“Gayblade” Your SoRiku bias is showing. (Also Nomura violated a lot of things for rule of cool. You think a gameplay mechanic showing up means something?)

Comparing what happened to Sora and Aqua is very different. Aqua had darkness shoved into her (Nort lite) while Sora actively fell into the deep darkness he was surrounded by. Aqua could’ve emerged from the water, but did not. Sora chased darkness, and fell right in. As for how they saved Aqua in the Alpha Timeline, this wouldn’t have changed? It was Sora using his light to reach Aqua as she fell in the darkness similar to Mickey doing so for her in 0.2, now that she was free of the extra darkness Ansem shoved in her for some fun. It had nothing to do with darkness or sleep.

So we’re talking Toy Story here and his “Not this time” doesn’t add up because if Alpha Timeline is dead and Beta Timeline are a second chance then Xehanort should not have any recollection of the initial timeline/worldline because you still don’t explain why he bothered with following Sora down instead of leaving him to just stay trapped in the Realm of Darkness. There’s no strategic reason to it and Xehanort is a chess master.

“Hey let’s explain shit” Okay first of all the Goofy reference was a way to include the new arc words but without that, the others are all ways to catch up new players so they’d have an idea of what’s going on. There is no in universe reason for it. All of this was excuses for filling in new players. (As for the Unversed: Just because we only see Donald and Goofy at Yen Sid’s Tower does not mean we see what happened to them before they arrived there, jsing. Mickey may have also shown them things. Just because we don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.) Most of the other memory shenanigans are either just springboards for banter or, in Riku’s case, save your energy for the battle against Xehanort ahead.

The Station of Awakening line is pointless since Sora has visited his dive multiple times in the series. As Roxas and as himself in KH2 and KH1 respectively and a final time in 3D when his heart was taken in by Ven’s armor. The Station of Awakening after all, is essentially the stained glass hearts.

Heffalumps stopped only appearing in dreams when they showed up in Winnie the Pooh. Also the promotional material quotes Nomura admitted using because they sounded cool.

Yellow Kingdom Hearts is on KH1′s cover as well. It’s had more appearances. Stands to reason it’s the more official color. Could also be be based on who, what, and how it’s summoned. 

Keyholes: Both Scala Ad Caelum (born from Xehanort’s heart and Kingdom Hearts) and the final Keyhole are forged to deal with sleeping. It makes sense they’d be the same.

YMX’s warnings are referencing exactly what KH3D Sora did. No more complicated theory necessary.

Skipping the Disney world synopsis because I know these worlds far too well at this point for my own Disney sanity.

Pulling symbolism from KH1 when KH2 wasn’t even planned by this point is wrong and also Riku being true love and light reeks very much of that SoRiku bias I mentioned. Okay skipping all this it’s literally just SoRiku and I’m not here for that. I’m here for the theory, not “Why Riku is Sora’s true love.”

“Riku and Kairi both helped Sora hang around” Except Riku dies at this point in the timeline. You can’t make an argument he’s alive because his heart is guided over by the Lich. What’s helping Sora hold on has nothing to do with what it is, otherwise he would just be another shapeless star, like Namine, the Nameless Stars, or the rest. It’s Kairi’s life that gives him the form to come back to life. Saving his heart has nothing to do with it and it just reeks of that same ship bias that was why I skipped the whole section on sacrifice. These 70 pages are irrelevant because all they do is take importance away from Kairi completely in the story, meaning she’s fundamentally useless besides a dark force. Which means Kairi literally doesn’t matter and can be written out of the story.

Kairi’s heart being lost is a full stop. Her heart was released at the end of the game. Saying it’s lost in the Lich sequence makes no sense, especially when she’s the one who guides him back in what is, as noted by PhoenixDowner’s translations, one of the more romantically weighted scenes of the game.

Summary of the more recent pages “SoKai is noncanon and you’re just being mislead it’s actually SoRiku that’s canon” and I’m starting to see where that anon came from...you could’ve saved this theory a hundred pages if you ignored the shipper stuff.

Everything in this ending is literally saying “Kairi doesn’t matter” and “Sora doesn’t care about bringing Kairi back” what the actual fuck?

Okay so I see a lot of talk about Sora and Riku being in the Sleeping Realms (which for the record that secret ending does not tease that but okay) but it still doesn’t explain how the events actually happened. The events of the Sleeping Realms are not the true reality. They’re Beta Timeline but if they never leave the Beta Timeline then the Alpha Timeline is still lost and legitimately none of this matters because at some point they have to leave the Sleeping Worlds, because at the end of the day the Realm of Sleep is still a dream. It still doesn’t happen?

Rage Form is Sora harnessing his darkness.

Rikunort is KH1′s Riku’s heart after he fell to darkness traveling to the awaiting vessel in the future. He’s not Data Riku, and the scene cited from Re:coded is actually a Riku memory held within the Journal’s data, not something happening to Data Riku at all.

In conclusion: I don’t think it’s all a garbage SoRiku fanfiction.

But I think way too much effort went into proving SoRiku was canon.

And also most of the holes I poked in the theory are still pretty valid. 

And now I also know it’s contradicted by several Ultimania interviews whether the original writers acknowledge it or not.

But whatever, it’s not my cup of tea, you guys can still like it.

#Kingdom Hearts #KH3 #Kingdom Hearts III #KH3 Spoilers

[katukutataka]

After-thought inspired by The Sleeping Realm Theory

Spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read this detailed theory about Kingdom Hearts 3. 

If you want to read it, here’s the link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11d1TKd4ZKZd41pJKQ77bKz4YxJx8_Mojz2KMpNvTrvU/preview#heading=h.f0l1oi4mw3k6

Props to the people who compiled this theory--it was very convincing and really interesting because it took factors from KH3 and previous games that I missed or haven’t thought of in that way. 

Also major spoilers for anyone who hasn’t played or watched the cutscenes of KH3, 

So here’s my thought after reading The Sleeping Theory twice now. 

There’s a section specifically talking about Kairi and the unusual Dakrside you fight in the very beginning of the game--in the Final World. 

According to the Theory as well as Tetsuya Nomura during an interview, The Final World is the last stop before death. Keep in mind that in previous KH games, we’ve been to the Station of Waking several times--the dark space that’s then alighted with stained glass. 

In the very beginning of the KH3, Sora is taken to The Final World after the player has chosen their stats. Just like in KH1, we are to fight the Darkside.

Normal Darkside. 

But the Darkside in KH3 is different:

 As you can see here, this Darkside is indeed abnormal. 

In the Sleeping Realm Theory, the authors note that Kairi’s death (#longlivequeenkairi) is very strange. She was struck in the back by Xehanort’s Keyblade to make the final key to create the X-blade and to motivate Sora. 

But when she died, her body became very transparent, crystal-like ice that shatters. This is first seen when Xion’s replica body was destroyed in 358/2 Days--ice-like crystals begin to encase her body until she finally shatters and she went back to Sora. 

For Kairi, her heart wasn’t present or released when her body shattered. So the Theory authors and many fans are asking the question: where did Kairi’s go?

Then there’s the section about Kairi’s Chirithy ears. 

(Honestly, ya’ll can read the Theory on your own to find out what I’m talking about.)

The point I’m trying to get at is: what if after Sora defeats the abnormal Darkside in the very beginning does represent Kairi in some way? No, i’m not saying that Kairi has darkness in her heart because of her status as a Princess of Heart. Rather, what if the abnormal Darkside is defeated and brings back Kairi?

Bare with me here. 

At the end of the battle against Xehanort, Sora leaves to find Kairi. And in the very ending, we see those two sitting on the paopu tree holding hands. But then Sora fades away, leaving Kairi alone sitting on the tree. 

(Sora: Kairi, I don’t feel so good...) Too soon?

Interestingly enough, the Theory authors actually note a very important piece that’s easy to miss unless you’re paying close attention. 

In the ending where everyone is playing on Destiny Island, the sky above them is a sunset hue consisting of orange, pink, and yellow.

The picture with Isa (gloriously basking in the sunset) shows a clear shot of the paopu tree. 

the picture above clearly displays Kairi and Sora on the paopu tree. But notice the color of the sky--along the with sunset hues of orange, pink, and yellow, there’s also a splash of blue/periwinkle . 

If you compare this picture to the previous sunset pictures, there’s no hint of blue or clouds blocking the sun. 

you could argue that the Sora and Kairi pictures occur the same time that the sunset is transitioning to night time--meaning that a few minutes after everyone has had their fun and they look towards the shore, Sora and Kairi appear on the tree. 

However! the Theory authors notes that everyone else appears to be looking at something else--the ocean and not the tree. Except for Roxas, Xion and Namine who all appear to be looking at the tree. The Theory authors make this statement:

“ These are two different points of a sunset, two different times, and two different worlds. “

If what the authors are saying are true, then Sora and Kairi would be in different Destiny Islands than everyone else or vice-versa. 

To sum up my point: What if the abnormal Darkside is Kairi? If The Final World in the very beginning of KH3 takes places after the game, that would mean that Sora has used the Power of Waking one last time to find Kairi.

He went through the Station of Awaking--the dark space with stained glass--first then went to The Final World and fights the abnormal Darkside. After he defeats it, he and Kairi somehow end up in a different Destiny Islands, only for Sora to fade away and end up in Shibuya.

What do you guys think? There’s still a lot we don’t know and Nomura hasn’t confirmed anything about the abnormal Darkside or how Sora manages to find/ bring back Kairi, so this post is just my thought. I could be wrong; who knows?

Additionally, now that it’s been speculated and confirmed that the Station of Awaking takes place after each game and is a reflection of Sora’s thoughts and feelings of the journey he just went through, it got me thinking about the Others: 

-BBS:This Station of Waking is different from what we’ve been used to because it doesn’t go through the same motion. Instead, you pick between Terra, Aqua, and Ventus who you, the player, will want to start the story/game. 

-KH2: Roxas enters the Station of Awaking and has to fight the Nobody called Twilight Thorn. Is this a reflectio/Chi-n after Roxas left the first Organization 13 or is it a reflection after KH2?

-KH Union X [Cross]: in this Station of Awakening, the player is introduced to the power of Light, the Keyblade, and are given an option to choose which Union they want to be in (#vulpesunion). Once you’ve chosen your union, you also fight a Darkside. So is that a reflection after the player’s death in KHU/Chi? 

hmmmmmmmmm.................

lemme know your thoughts.    

#KH #kh3 theory #kh3 spoilers #sora #kairi #personal thought #kh3

[jcmorrigan]

Top ten KH3 moments?

***SPOILERS AHEAD! SPOILERS AHEAD! SPOILERS AHEAD! DON’T READ UNLESS YOU’VE EXPERIENCED THE WHOLE GAME OR YOU DON’T GIVE A DANG ABOUT SPOILERS!***

Confession: in trying to come up with my answer for this post, I came up with THIRTY. I’ll just put the ten here, but if anyone wants to ask about those other twenty, feel free :-D

10. The reveal of who Luxu really was the whole time. It tied together a lot of things that made sense and it set up EXACTLY THE CHARACTER IT NEEDED TO to take up the villain helm in place of Xehanort. I’m actually going to skirt saying this name, even though I warned for spoilers, because this reveal is just SO good. And a lot of the endgame made me feel sour and numb due to THE HORRIBLY TRAUMATIZING DEATH OF KAIRI, but this scene picked me almost all the way back up to normal again. 

9. When Xemnas assembles Demyx, Larxene, Marluxia, and Luxord at the Keyblade Graveyard and it’s NONSTOP BANTER. Larxene firing off the most hilarious insults at Demyx (a CEREAL BOWL), Demyx openly admitting that he’s not imposing on purpose, Larxene trying to get Marluxia to start another coup, Luxord listening in the whole time and not letting on until his name is called, Luxord fiddling with the cards and making gambling metaphors, Demyx playing his sitar the whole time…and let us not forget the line that embodies a Big Mood: “Ugh. Xemnas.”

8. When Sora reunited with Hades. It was less “MY MORTAL NEMESIS WHO MUST BE STOPPED” and more “Oh, my weird friend of opposing morality who I don’t really like but have to say hi to.” Their reactions to each other were so hilariously casual. Then Hades introduced the Titans in the most EPIC way…only to realize he sent Sora EXACTLY WHERE HE SHOULDN’T GO and deciding this was fine. Also, bonus points for Sora later calling him “the H-ster.”

7. When the Demon Tornado (my personal name for the GIANT CYCLONE OF SHADOW HEARTLESS; canon will probably prove this wrong later) is about to wipe out everyone, but Ephemer helps Sora summon ALL THE KEYBLADES OF THE DEAD WIELDERS OF THE KEYBLADE WAR IN ORDER TO PULVERIZE IT. There’s so much going on there: the epicness of using a hundred Keyblades at once, the beautifully victorious arrangement of “Dearly Beloved,” the shout-outs to the player names in the commands, and, perhaps most of all, the realization after the fact that these blades were all of people who died killing each other for petty reasons…and after death, their spirits realized it was time to set aside their differences and focus on not letting Xehanort win.

6. Battling Davy Jones and the Kraken at the same time. The Kraken is one of the two Disney boss battle fights I have wanted for a DECADE (the other was Randall Boggs; you had your chance and you BLEW IT). I actually was half-disappointed with the naval battle portion because I had imagined it should be melee, but then Davy Jones turned out to be the first true Disney villain boss fight that wasn’t transformed into a Heartless or somesuch, and I’d been thirsty for content of him since arriving in that world. But then it turned out THE KRAKEN WAS WAITING IN THE WINGS TO ASSIST HIM and I actually DID get to fight it melee and it was just the PERFECT way to close out PotC’s role in KH.

5. Fighting Ansem, Seeker of Darkness; Xemnas; and Young Xehanort at the same time. First of all, BEST BOSS THEME IN THE ENTIRE GAME. It was the perfect culmination of putting all the Xehanort themes into one piece that flowed and made sense. Second, the sheer epicness of this CONCEPT. Third, the coordinated triple attack they make where Young Xehanort freezes Sora, Xemnas shoots him with the vines, and Ansem lets the lasers fly.

4. Even and Demyx’s one interaction. While I still don’t think Vexen/Even is hero material, the one thing that made that redemption worth it was this. Seeing these two diametrically opposing personalities, who you think would hate each other, play off each other perfectly. They’re just the right amount of annoyed with each other to be hilarious, and then there’s obviously some genuine respect passed between this odd couple. I will never be over how they have to shush each other in succession.

3. Ienzo’s intro to the plot, though this is kind of in two parts - I’m counting his initial reveal as Sora’s guide with his almost immediate return to help with tech stuff when Pence logs into the computer. Ienzo is just such a CINNAMON ROLL. He just wants friends now, he’s a total ambivert, he keeps slipping into jargon before realizing he’s the only one in the room who knows what he’s saying and reverting to layperson’s terms without being condescending, he flinches at sudden loud noises, he has a cute smile and a nervous laugh…oh. Oh, no. JCMorrigan has a crush.

2. When Vanitas is on the cusp of wrecking Sora on the Laughfloor…and Sulley intervenes by picking him up and YEETING HIM into a door. Oh, but not just that. Taking that door and THROWING IT INTO ANOTHER DOOR, THEN INTO ANOTHER DOOR, THEN INTO ANOTHER DOOR AND SHREDDING THAT ONE. I could NOT stop howling with laughter through this whole sequence. And about four hours later, it hit me that Vanitas could just Corridor out of wherever he got thrown, so Sulley basically did all that for nothing, AND NOW IT’S EVEN MORE HILARIOUS. BONUS POINTS STILL IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE KIDS’ ROOMS WHO EITHER HAD A DOOR FLUNG INTO THEM OR VANITAS HIMSELF. Also, can we appreciate how Sulley somehow knew after five minutes that Vanitas was THAT much worse than Randall that he’d need this treatment?

1. Randall Boggs hijacking the Monsters, Inc. factory. Randall is a legacy favorite villain of mine. He was a big part of my late childhood/young adolescence, and I was CRAZY over him. Over time, I’ve found he still holds up. I could gush about how KHIII’s additions to his entire characterization pretty much renewed my love for him afresh, but let’s focus on his finest hour. Normally, the designated villain of a KH world just peaces out and waits for you to find them at the boss location. Randall, instead, turns the entire factory into death traps and TAUNTS HIS QUARRY OVER THE PA SYSTEM GLADOS-STYLE. Not only that, but he makes TERRIBLE puns (”This one’s got some spark in him!” during the electric fence, “I’ve decided to ramp up the difficulty” as Sora climbs an upward-headed conveyor) and he easily slides from Large and in Charge (”Enjoy what’s left of your miserable little lives!”) to realizing he’s getting humiliated and trying to cover (”You get one freebie, but that’s it.”). KHIII did Randall so good I can’t even.

#kingdom hearts #kingdom hearts iii #khiii #kh spoilers #kh3 spoilers

[dewprisms]

kh3 spoilers idk tumblr keeps not saving them and idk what i was doing last :/ but this will be the last one unless there’s DLC or something

this terranort scene....everyone sure is taking their time to attack him

kairi where is your keyblade seriously??? maybe you should have it out???? why are they making her a fucking damsel in distress again

so Donald and Lea get hurt because Kairi’s too dumb to not have her keyblade out with monsters around what the FUCK was the point of her training if they’re making her NOT DO A DAMN THING EXCEPT BE A D-I-D

god is THIS why I saw posts about people being upset over kairi’s treatment? Because they don’t even have to do ANYTHING? or is it about to be worse?

....and Aqua just....doesn’t even try, she just drops her blade and lets go

this entire scene is suppose to be sad but I’m just getting pissed off at how FUCKING STUPID they all are

“where am i” looks like heaven, ur dead kid

chirithyyyyyyy

....Chirithy def has Kairi’s? voice, def the voice of another character but higher pitched

oh shit Sora’s ACTUALLY dead

is....that xion?

Namine!

...is this Chirithy....Ven’s Chirithy?

Lea never did change into his new clothes

THEYRE HOLDING HANDS

oh, NOW I actually unlocked KG as an actual world

what....did time rewind? it’s the same scene...

LW!!!! Terra’s back!!

WHAT?! EPHEMER?!

oh my god, THIS is where all the KHUX names come in? We help Sora fight the Darkness Tornado

aww, I didn’t see my name :( that didn’t seem like 300 tho

oh, so it IS KH1 Riku

there he is, my love!!! aand he’s gone

oh no, Mickey’s starting to lose hope

oh dang, Mickey knows Time magic? not Stop, but Time

YEN SID!!!!!! HE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING

man this is why he’s the most powerful magician in the series

oh shit there are 2 girls.....is it really xion?

mannnn Xehanort’s voice is sooooo bad and the accent just gets worse and worse like the dude isn’t even trying to hide it

where’s Terra? He’s not back yet

oh Luxord’s not dead

oh god, I have to fight ALL FOUR of them with Mickey

nvm, just me vs 3

nvm that was easy, just ignore larx and marly

oh, Luxord’s helping....and he dies again

where’s mar and larx tho. i didn’t kill them

oh, larx only helped to stay with marluxia....cause of their past in khux...

marly lost his memory too?

now i gotta kill my bf again....

yup, he never got one....xehanort lied to him....

they’re so mean to him :((((((((((( I mean he deserved it yeah but

nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HE KILLED HIMSELF WHYYYY

im legit upset

oh no, it is repliku, not past riku....

the real repliku....is giving ups his chance of life for namine......

wow......kairi got hit twice and fucking passed out....she’s worse than donald.....she didnt do any damage and got knocked out way too fast...

xion :(

also-ran??? wtf is that

ROXAS!!!

SSIC trio is back!

fuckING KAIRI GOT KIDNAPPED   A G A I N  ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

who the FUCK is “her” they keep talking about

so Saix was more bitter over over not just him but this mysterious girl they were searching for

nooooooo he died in Lea’s arms (also? apologize to Xion for how you treated her you fuck)

...so Xion’s hair is brown now....?

SSIC TRIO HUG!!!!!

Also....why was Xion with them in the first place??? They NEVER said why

naturally, aqua vs terranort and ven vs van

JHBSJKKSD I killed Terranort and ALL he said was “ow??” like he hit his arm on a door

I don’t think they understand that Vanitas didn’t have a choice, he “chose” darkness because he IS darkness, that’s literally what he is, he never had a choice to be what he wanted, he can’t be with light because Ventus is his light

jfc Terranort shook them around so much they passed out

Holy shit IS THE THEORY TRUE??? The guardian is Terra’s Heartless!!!

so Guardian = Heart, Terranort = Body, LW = Soul, dude was literally split into the 3 states

WAYFINDER HUGS!!!!

fucking....they took Kairi to force them to fight the last fights....instead of LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE!!!! if Kairi is so fucking weak as they’re writing her to be, it would’ve been more beneficial to kidnap one of the stronger people (like Mickey!!) instead but no they gotta kidnap the girly girl who’s been a DID in every. single. main. game. so far. :))))))))

lmao killed YMX with the Magic Carasoule

ngl I was kinda expecting YMX to betray himself...

Xehanort just sit here and watches these little cut scenes after every individual defeat....

......oh....ansem sod was gonna betray them....but gave up hope he could change anything....

aww Mickey used Curaga on us right before he knew he was gonna get taken again also I forgot to equip Curaga for myself oops I still have Cura on my slots, why does it not automatically equip them now....nobody wants to ever use the weaker versions, lower magic cost or not

what, Xemnas actually regrets being bad to the org? why, it makes no sense from how he was written before

WHAT HE KILLED KAIRI

“Why her?!” because she’s a fucking girl in this franchise

im so goddamn pissed off, no WONDER everyone is so mad about the ending

....Xehanort’s VA is......so bad............he has no damn emotion..............like, people talk about Aqua and Terra’s VA”s being emotionless? Nah, this dude really sucks

so Riku and Mickey got Stop’d but Donald and Goofy didn’t (or Sora of course

oooooo Ven and Roxas noticed each other....that’s gonna be a convo.....

“Kairi will be alright.” Yeah after everything’s done and over with to keep her out of the action

............so he gets taken out because he’s too distracted to see the 11 people aiming for him? are you fucking kidding me

so Xehanort...is a portal...to Cable Town??

mannn so the guys in those gucci outfits aren’t even the new org, they’re all just old man xehanort himself

wait wait no, they have all the weapons of the org? so are they them or does he just have all their powers??? nvm they’re all him

god even his power-up scream was underwhelming........

yup, a goat, the sin of Lust iirc

.....that fight...was extremely underwhelming....is that it?

“there is one sky, one destiny” dude that’s kairi’s line fuck off

EVEN DON AND GOOF ARE GETTING HITS IN like damn man

he just. straight up took the light from Sora and forced him into Anti-Form? ok

well, at least he actually sounds like he’s dying in pain

ERAQUS! at least he has his voice, that’s def mark hamil still

“that doesn’t mean that i can’t be there for you” you’re the one that fucking killed him you lying motherfucker

...so eraqus apologized to aqua and ven, but not to terra who he also attacked? ok

and so the boyfriends ascend to the afterlife together

where the FUCK is Kairi

so

so the game

fucking ends

with Kairi fucking dead

THATS THE FUCKING SEQUEL HOOK?!

this whole ending is suppose to be sweet with all the reunions but I’m just royally pissed off

oh, it is Ven’s Chirithy....but he didn’t have his memory come back...

oh! Lea’s new outf- XION GETS ONE TOO AAAAAAAAAA AND ISA!!!!!!!!!!!

Namine!!

they just. found Kairi offscreen.........................................................................

whelp, SoKari def canon SoRiKai is way better tho, as is somewhat RepliNami and Terrqua and MarLarx

wait.....what happened to Sora? Is Kairi actually not back then??

omg, Drake Bell was young Eraqus??? what, it said the Foretellers in the credits....when was that?? I don’t recall ever seeing them.....

............what happened to the card Luxord gave Sora that he said could help turn the tide of the battle? It never came up as far as I can tell..

...uh.....did they forget that Frozen takes place in the summer.....why is the area still covered in snow? it stopped once Elsa controlled her powers.....

yup, there’s Luxu(?) and the KHUX hook, though I don’t see Ava among them

OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

XIGBAR IS LUXU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’LL SEE HIM IN MORE GAMES AAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE THEORY WAS- wrong, cause everyone was saying he’s the Master of Masters

oh, I completely forgot about Maleficent and Pete lmao

oh, so Sora really was gone- oh what the fuck are they in the real world now????? no, what the fuck, the FF knockoff in Toy Box was real?? or is it a DLC hook?

#kh3 spoilers / #kingdom hearts 3 spoilers / #khIII spoilers / #kingdom hearts III spoilers / #kh spoilers / #kingdom hearts spoilers / #playing: kingdom hearts

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master-logan004 replied to your post “I’m officially opening this can of worms”

Wow. Very well said. Honestly though, it didn't seem like it was hard for Xehanort to posses Terra's heart. He got his heart and body just fine, it's the Lingering Will, if you will (get it 😏), that Xehanort could never put down. Now the different parts that make up a human are still hard for me to understand so I may have this wrong, but I don't see Xehanort not at least trying to get Terra back, unless one of two things has happened: he is still using the body that Terra had. It is said that the heart shapes the body. So maybe it's just been long enough for Xehanort's heart to shape Terra's body back to the way it thinks it should be, or (second option): Terra escaped somehow. Maybe Terra is finally back and didn't need our help (honestly though i have no idea how to get him back). I think there are still way more things pointing towards Xehanort talking about Ventus. In addition to what you said, Venitus is still inside Ven, which obviously gives Xehanort an easy entry point.

Now, since you clearly know your stuff, do you think that losing control of Sora has made Xehanort lose hope of controlling Ven? And what do you think of the possibility of Lea being the a guardian?

I’ve been wondering why this post has started making rounds again. XD But anyway, to break down your questions...!

Honestly though, it didn't seem like it was hard for Xehanort to posses Terra's heart. He got his heart and body just fine, it's the Lingering Will, if you will (get it 😏), that Xehanort could never put down.

Lingering Will is an extension of Terra. It’s referred to as his “mind,” yes, as opposed to his body and heart, but it’s still Terra, so Terra’s resisted nearly from the moment he was possessed. But as for Terra’s actual heart: in the Final Episode, Terra is constantly fighting back against Xehanort; it’s bad enough that Xehanort tries to forcibly expel his heart with his Keyblade. Also, during the bossfight, you can trigger a quicktime event as Aqua that shows her and Terra working together to harm Xehanort from the inside. In Blank Points, Xehanort admits that he’s dumbfounded by Terra’s continued presence inside his heart, when his possession should have smothered (killed) it at the get-go.

And then fast forward ten years to 0.2, where we see Terra literally wrestling with Xehanort to protect Aqua and Ven, and even subduing him using the same chains that were seen in the Lingering Will fight. Terra has always fought against Xehanort in both heart and mind; it’s never been easy for Xehanort to keep a hold of him because every time we see Terra-Xehanort, we see him struggling to control Terra in some form or another.

he is still using the body that Terra had. It is said that the heart shapes the body. So maybe it's just been long enough for Xehanort's heart to shape Terra's body back to the way it thinks it should be

I’ve seen this argument before, and I don’t really get it, tbh? When Apprentice-Xehanort removed his own heart, he still looked like Terra, so we know there was no physical change. Xehanort wasn’t reborn until that moment in DDD where we literally see it happen -- so Xehanort’s heart hasn’t been in contact with Terra’s body for over a decade. There really hasn’t been any time for it to “mold” Terra’s appearance, assuming that’s even possible. Also consider that Xemnas, as their joint Nobody, should technically be in possession of Apprentice-Xehanort’s (Terra’s) true body. This would seem odd since Xemnas died and appears to be present only through time travel, but Nomura hinted in an interview (can’t remember which, bah) that he and Ansem SOD are both actually alive at present -- and considering DDD seems to have been the end of the use of time travel (with the exception of Young Xehanort, who still has those powers), this would make sense in order for Xemnas and Ansem SOD to be present in KH3. If so, Xemnas should have Terra’s true body, which leads to your second option:

Terra escaped somehow. Maybe Terra is finally back and didn't need our help

I don’t think he’s near Xehanort at all, but I don’t think he’s fine, either. I don’t want to get into it too much because my thoughts come from a lot of speculation and complicated hints in the series, but I’ll just say that I think Terra’s heart is currently stuck somewhere and it can’t leave to be reborn in his body like Xehanort’s was. Even if Terra’s heart WAS free, however, Xemnas may well have his true body, so Terra’s heart would have nowhere to go. This potentially goes back to Ansem the Wise’s remark in DDD:

“Sora was the only one able to return to his human form without destroying his Nobody. That is a statement to the love in his heart for other people, and the bonds that tie them together. Perhaps...he has the power to bring back the hearts and existences of those connected to him -- to recreate people we thought were lost to us forever.”

It’s my thought that Xemnas has Terra’s true, aged body, so Terra’s heart will be saved in KH3 and, like Roxas and Xion, he’ll be given a new body -- which would allow him to retain his original, physical end-of-BBS age along with Aqua and Ven. (Also, I just can’t see Terra being the only one who’s aged while the other two get to keep their youth.)

Venitus is still inside Ven, which obviously gives Xehanort an easy entry point.

I actually don’t believe Vanitas is inside Ven. He wasn’t one of the lost hearts that Namine discovered in Re:Coded, he wasn’t seen by Sora along with Roxas and the others in his sleep at the end of DDD, he wasn’t present in Sora’s heart when Riku entered it at the end of DDD -- but he was seen alongside Young Xehanort in Notre Dame. I’ve just assumed that Xehanort already has Vanitas’ heart and was (or will be) able to recreate his destroyed body somehow.

That aside, though, even if Vanitas was inside Ven, he would be in Ven’s heart. Xehanort would want Ven’s body as a vessel, which is currently empty inside CO. He wouldn’t need any help taking over it, because it would just be a matter of putting a piece of himself into an empty body.

do you think that losing control of Sora has made Xehanort lose hope of controlling Ven?

Sora and Ven are different cases -- as I said above, Ven is just an empty shell, presumably no strings attached. Sora was a more complicated case. And even when Xehanort lost Sora, it wasn’t through any fault of his own other than failing to predict Lea’s involvement -- so Xehanort never “lost control” of Sora, he just lost Sora himself, haha. So no, I don’t think that’s crippled his confidence at all. But that said, I don’t think he’s after Ven anymore, either. He counts Terra and Ven among the Lights, and only refers to “having” Ven in the sense that he “had” Sora at the time, i.e. accidentally because Ven’s and Sora’s hearts came as one package.

And what do you think of the possibility of Lea being the a guardian?

I think I pretty much covered that in my description of what I believe is required of a Guardian of Light in my original post, all of which are qualities that Lea lacks. But I’ll paste my response to a similar discussion from further back:

I admittedly didn’t want to be the first to bring up Lea (since fandom has decided to come up with this rather heated and ridiculous Lea vs Terra rivalry that borders on the level of politics with Things You Don’t Talk About), but I definitely agree that he just doesn’t fit in with the other Lights as a group, and that’s not even taking my analysis of Light requirements into account. We know Lea/Axel has never really been a team player, and while he’s definitely turned over a new leaf in helping Sora and friends, I personally doubt he’s doing it solely because it’s the right thing to do; most likely, getting Roxas back is at least part of his motivation. But that’s just a total guess on my part, and I have nothing to back that up.

And I don’t mean any of this as an insult, because it makes Lea stand out from the other good guys – it makes him unique, which I admire because it’s good to have an ally who’s not Lawful Good like the rest. I’ve been hoping that he’ll be that cool guy who does stuff in the shadows, the ex-assassin with a more greyscale view of life who’s not afraid to bend the rules to do what’s necessary – basically, I want him to keep doing what he did in DDD. And he can’t do that as a Light, because that’s not what they stand for if you compare him to the rest. (And, contrary to what some fans think, you don’t have to be a Light to be important. We have a ton of allies at this point, and it’s not just going to be seven people pulling all the weight here. The Lights will probably be the most important people at endgame, sure, but that’s just one part of a very long plot. Status as a Light =/= canon relevance.)

And again, no offense to Lea, but if you can just pick any newbie wielder off the street to fill in as a Light, then that’s not very meaningful as far as the “fated battle” is concerned. In my opinion, at least.

#two cents #tl;dr #kingdom hearts #terra #xehanort #master-logan004 #text post

[claidi]

I’ve FINALLY PLAYED KINGDOM HEARTS 2.8! (well excluding the 3D remake)

BUT I’M UP TO DATE ON THE STORY and I can finally stop avoiding spoilers. I’m about to find all the theories and crazy guessing I can. It’ll be great. Here’s just a few of my thoughts BEFORE I see what everyone else has interpreted.

0.2:

-AQUA IS AMAZING I AM SO HAPPY SHE HAS HER OWN GAME

-It wasn’t even three hours long... which is a little sad with how short it was. I was planning to spend my weekend playing it but... yeeeeah

-The first “worlds” confused me. Like what was with the time and the mirror stuff? Was it just to show how Aqua was struggling holding onto herself in the RoD? It wasn’t really showcasing an enemy that caused all the craziness, so what caused the trippy mirror magic? How much was Aqua hallucinating and how much was just a really weird part of the Realm of Darkness she stumbled into. I get it’s supposed to be self reflective and symbolic, but logic??? I know, it’s Kingdom Hearts. Asking for logic is like asking for KH3 to come out this decade. 

-Terra! We saw you! I’m not sure where you are, in Ansem or Xemnas or split between both but it’s nice to hear you. Seriously, given the timeline in this, are you possessing Riku? Or maybe Ansem was just kicked out of Riku and while he’s weak you had a chance for your heart to wander? Or you’re in Xemnas somewhere right before he starts stuff in Castle Oblivion... which given this is how he finds out where Ven is, I’m assuming your heart is currently in your Nobody? Somehow? I dunno. I’m sorry the next 3 years aren’t any better for you.

-The funniest thing was when Mickey Mouse of all characters received clothing damage. Just... no words. 

-I do like that the writers are TRYING to stitch canon back together after all the changes and retcons over the years. They’re aware there’s weirdness. Do they actually explain much?... No.... But they tried. They deserve a lumpy gold star.

-YES RIKU SHOUT AT YEN SID OH MY GOODNESS ASKING THE REAL QUESTIONS

-yes i am bitter why do u ask

-Also, Kairi? YOU SPOKE YOU SPOKE YOU HAD A LINE AHHHHHHHH But what? Riku... wasn’t really acting like Sora there? It was cute to see friendship tho. I hope you have fun learning how to use your keyblade. I love how Kairi doesn’t trust Axel. He freaking kidnapped her. She can be a bit wary, especially if any Namine memories or feelings carry over. I thought it was cute that she checked Riku for confirmation rather than just blindly believing Mickey. How much does Kairi know about what happen to Sora if she didn’t know Axel helped rescue him? I hope Riku filled her. 

-I absolutely hate Yen Sid lecturing Sora on how he failed the test. SORA DID NOTHING WRONG. Yen Sid is the one who messed up in 3D, not Sora. 

-I’m worried about Sora just bouncing back. Poor guy needs to express his feelings rather than put on a happy face all the time. 

-”A pint and a half”; Is this implying Sora thinks he’s a full pint, or that his friends are equal too him instead of less? Either is cute.

-Seriously tho, I wish Sora got more respect. He’s saved the universe twice. He’s not an idiot, he’s not weak, he doesn’t have a darkness problem (unless Anti-form counts)... He is a true hero. Let his be recognized as such. 

-I love that everyone else takes the saying to be a generic follow your heart speech but Sora hears it once and learns how to make portals

Backcover:

-What.

-Like I liked it, but it was like only 1/3 of a story it seemed like. WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO THE TRAITOR IS. Of course, I’m betting there is no traitor, unless its the MoM, and it’s taking about another group.

-The Master of Masters was GREAT. I don’t care that he’s probably secretly evil. I love him. I just really love his character. 

-What’s in the box? I’ll tell you what’s in the box. Axel’s KH3 clothing.

#kingdom hearts #kh 2.8 #me