I just wanna say how tired I am with some oumota shippers and their argument that oumasai is a bad ship cause apparently Shuichi never cared about kokichi and is annoyed with him and that oumota is better cause kokichi "opened up" to kaito like what they both were dying and kokichi had to convince kaito to work with him so he had to tell the truth that he wasn't the mastermind or else they'll die a meaningless death.I just really wanted to say this cause its driving me insane
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Btw i was the anon that sent that ask ranting about oumota shippers saying oumota is better than oumasai and I just wanna clarify that I don't hate oumota shippers cause I know its their opinion and everyone can ship what they want but i feel like I really needed to tell someone about it cause it has been messing with my head and I don't have any irl friends that like DR and this blog felt the safest to vent to
Oh my goodness Iâm so sorry youâre dealing with those people! I have a friend who is actually suffering from the same exact thing. Constant harassment from Ou**ta shippers saying Oumasai is toxic. Iâm happy you feel like this is the safest blog to vent to ;; And just to make you feel better, here are a bunch of reasons why YOUâRE 100% RIGHT! and you shouldnât be attacked or ashamed of how you feel towards that ship and all that hate towards yours. If anyone says Shuichi hated Kokichi and never cared for him just read this post! https://natsumiheart.tumblr.com/post/177427505177/hewwo-what-are-your-opinions-on-the-people-who
Warning: If you like Kaito x Kokichi I recommend you donât read whatâs under the cut, I donât want to diss anyoneâs ship in front of their face. Thatâs just insensitive, and the last thing I want is to ruin someoneâs day. Unless you really want to know why others donât feel the same as you, then donât check out this post. Thank you!
Note that while I mention the bunch of reasons why this ship just straight up wouldnât work out, Iâm going to ignore the fact that Kaito acts very homophobic and transphobic in the japanese version of the game. Iâve mentioned it in this blog a bunch of times before, and itâs pretty obvious that everyone ignores his Homophobia so Iâm just going to pretend as if heâs not homophobic and break down why exactly this ship wouldnât work out even without him being homophobic in the first place. But Iâm definitely not going to exclude how he acts towards guys in general.
> Kaito treats most guys he meets like trash, unless he respects them. Whenever Kaito finds a guy acting âWeakâ he literally looks down on them, even gets frustrated with them. Huge proof is how he treated Shuichi for crying over Kaede, and then later punching Kokichi because he was acting âWeirdâ. Kaito was a huge fan of Ryoma, but when he saw what he has become, someone who has given up on his future, he started treating him badly, and after Ryoma was dead he even talked badly on him calling him âWeak.â and a âSissy.â Not being able to understand the pain Ryoma was going through or how things were for him. He also got creeped out by Korekiyo for acting like a girl before he even revealed that he was âposessedâ by his sister. Arenât all those moments in the game enough proof that Kaito just straight up doesnât like guys at all in that way? Then how could he *love* a guy, and Kokichi of all people. Heck, Gonta x Kaito make more sense than Kaito x Kokichi, even though he yelled at Gonta once for crying and being too weak for a man.
Itâs shown multiple times in the game that Kaito treats guys like trash, and he treats Kokichi the worst of all.
Note: I do think Kaito can change the way he acts towards guys, but I donât he will ever love one romantically.
> I think we can all agree that Kokichi is really hard to deal with sometimes. He distances himself so much from everyone as much as he could, and he wonât back down that easily even if it meant hurting othersâ feelings. He keeps lying constantly so no one can figure him out or get close to him. We donât exactly know the reason why, but he has major trust issues and it shows.That is the reason why for us, seeing Shuichi listed under âTrustworthyâ was a big deal. (But Iâm not going to dive deep into that since I already did multiple times in this blog.) My point here is that Kokichi needs someone with patience, someone who could understand him a bit and why he does what he does. Someone to decipher his actions and break down his walls, but isnât afraid to sometimes step his foot down and tell him that his actions are wrong and heâs harming others as well as himself. Kaito on the other hand grows frustrated with guys so quickly, he doesnât listen to their reasoning before heading in for physical violence. THAT is exactly the opposite of what Kokichi needs! And I still donât understand how others canât see it! When Kaito punched Kokichi in chapter 4, he was already in so much despair over seeing the secret of the outside world and that punch made it worse. To the point he stayed silent then locked himself in his room. How in the world do people actually see this ship as better than oumasai? I donât get it.
Kokichi shouldnât be with someone that will treat him like trash, and physically (if not also emotionally) harm him for how heâs acting.
> Opposites sometimes attract, but POLAR opposites do not. and Iâm talking from personal experience here, two people who are different in so many ways (ESPECIALLY THEIR WAY OF THINKING) will end up fighting 24/7. It was shown again and again in the game that Kokichi and Kaito do not get along thanks to how different their approach is to things and their seemingly different upbringings. Ships between two characters who fight a lot just make me so uncomfortable and disturbed, because I know how these relationships actually end up in real life. Fights do happen in relationships sometimes, itâs even needed to strengthen the relationship, to realise that no matter what happens you STILL love your partner, but when you fight every single time you talk? Thatâs a bad sign!Â
Fighting is NOT romantic and it never will be! And when it has physical violence mixed in? My god. Please do yourself a favor and break up with your partner if they keep hitting you.
> Kaito doesnât ever side with Kokichi:
He literally said in chapter 4 âI donât wanna survive it means I have to stoop to your level!â and Kokichi said âThen die in a hole for all I care! WE wanna LIVE, so stop getting in our way!â. Kaito will never be on Kokichiâs side, Even if it meant his death and the deaths of all his friends.
When Kaito realised that maybe watching all the motive videos together wouldâve prevented a murder from happening Shuichi is the one that points out that it was what Kokichi was trying to do. But then Kaito is like âHuh, really?â Then brushes it off. Because of course, of course Kokichi wants murders to continue. Right?
Even after Kokichi spilled everything to him because he was literally about to die and really wanted Kaito to go along with his plan and believe him. Kaito still stated that he still thought he only thought of himself. Even after Kokichi sacrificed himself to save HIM from the poison and MAKI from being his murderer. He still hated him and didnât believe him. The only reason Kaito went along with his plan was because he was about to die anyway, he was running out of time and he needed to get out even if it meant following Kokichiâs plan and killing him in the process.
When two people actually love each other they have each others backs. But with these two, they never will.
> I donât believe Kokichi hated Kaito. But he literally thinks he is stupid and is a bad influence on everyone. These two have a relationship of two siblings that canât stand each other. I always see myself and my brother in them, which is another reason why their ship makes me beyond uncomfortable. My brother puts his trust in people way too easily, and believes whatever tf his brain comes up with because yâknow itâs him and âheâs always rightâ. He would never take a second to think that maybe heâs wrong, just like Kaito and his hunch. I on the other hand find him incredibly stupid, we argue a lot because our way of thinking and our beliefs are very different, we even used to hit each other a lot. We never really got along. And the way Kokichi and Kaito act around each other really reminded me of it, but you donât know me and you donât know my brother so why should you take my word for it? An example I like to use when trying to explain this point to others is the relationship between Stanley and Stanford in Gravity Falls, those two fought a lot in the show but in the last episode they had to work together on a plan despite their differences. Doesnât it remind you of a certain story that happened in the game? Kokichi and Kaitoâs relationship resembles theirs so much itâs insane.Â
I feel like the game tried to show us how these two are more like siblings but on bad terms, even giving them similar hair and eye colors. But that flew straight over every rivalry shipperâs head.
These are some of the reasons why Ou**ta wouldnât work out and canât even be a thing in the first place, I said it before and Iâll say it again: I could write a book about this topic. But Iâm kinda busy today and I have to leave the house soon- I hope youâre convinced that you are actually right. (Iâve been told countless times that Iâm wrong leading me to question myself, so I wanted to help out by reassuring you that your feelings are valid and youâre not wrong in this situation at all) Saying Oumasai is toxic for one line Shuichi said while he was angry and defending his friend, while shipping Ou**ta and ignoring all this stuff is like the most hypocritical thing anyone can say.Â
And yeah, people should ship whatever they want. Lots of people ignore charactersâ feelings and ship the crackiest of ships, making very OOC art and fanfiction. And they can do that! But they canât go around dissing people for their ship while supporting an obviously flawed one. Honestly you shouldnât attack people for their ships in the first place, no matter what YOU ship. Just stay in your own bubble and stay away from the ships you dislike. Itâs not that hard!
If youâre an Ou**ta fan reading this, I just want to say thank you for reading this far, and Iâm really not saying you should stop supporting your ship. Iâm just explaining why we feel this way towards it and the evidence we have behind it. If youâre one of the people who go around attacking shippers while boasting your ship. Please stop? Seriously, stop giving a shit about other peopleâs opinions and life will suddenly become much easier.
Iâd like to clarify: If anyone responds to this post telling me Iâm wrong, Iâm not responding. My blog is for me to post art, sometimes funny stuff to make peopleâs days, interact with my followers and draw their requests, or ranting about topics Iâm passionate about (Mostly DR). I do not want it to be a place for ship discourse, so if I get disagreeing replies or asks Iâm going to ignore them like I always do whenever I post these rant type blogs. I hope you understand.
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