#the closer we get to wq the more insane i'm becoming

[thefirstknife]

Hive Ghost!

To celebrate 800 followers, I'm gonna hit you with some insanity.

So, on Raid Secrets reddit, someone pointed out that in the latest WQ trailer footage, we saw a different Hive Ghost. It's just a little guy and he has one piece of it broken:

The person on reddit specifies that the Ghost having a different model means it is probably a separate character, possibly even a vendor, given that the Guardians are approaching it with their weapons lowered (which usually happens when we approach NPCs). They also state that, unlike all other Hive Ghosts we've seen so far, this one isn't performing a rez despite being next to a dead Hive.

Obviously we don't know the details of this scene, but the Hive Ghost having a different model is really interesting. There would be no point in making an entirely different model if the Ghost is not going to be at least a minor character in the story, and possibly even a vendor or more important.

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This led me to believe that it might also be connected to the Hive Ghost replica we're getting for Collector's Edition. It originally felt kinda weird that we're getting a Hive Ghost for Collector's because Hive Ghosts are meant to be antagonists. But then again, we received a Darkness splinter for Beyond Light Collector's Edition. But then again, we WERE using a Darkness splinter for ourselves aka it helped us learn Stasis.

Is this Hive Ghost allied with us somehow? It would be interesting to see! A Hive Ghost with doubts and their own personality and ideas of what their purpose is!

But then... In the midst of discussing this... I received a thought.

A previous trailer discussing Hive Ghosts and how Savathun stole the Light showed us a very strange series of images involving.... Sagira. Specifically, they used footage from Curse of Osiris which shows our Ghost next to Sagira's shell, Glint, and then Curse of Osiris Sagira again. Which then transitions into footage of Savathun.

Interestingly enough, this scene glitches out and then transitions into Savathun:

A lot of people have been speculating that Savathun's Ghost may be a zombified Hive Sagira. I personally never thought so because Sagira's shell was shattered and all of her Light was spent when she made the sacrifice to push Xivu Arath away and save Osiris. And it also just doesn't seem to be a strong narrative point other than destroying our feelings to have Savathun using Sagira. There's simply no shell left either way.

It also doesn't fit Sagira as a personality. Her final moments showed that her Light was so strong that it was capable of pushing an entire Hive God away and shining brighter than the Pyramid Ship in a Darkness zone, for days. If anyone is able to resist the Hive, it's Sagira.

So if Sagira has been zombified in some way or perhaps her essence preserved and dropped into a Hive Ghost, it wouldn't be Savathun's Ghost. It's more likely it would be this rogue Hive Ghost.

I doubt she will remember, but on the other hand, Sagira is known to be able to inhabit other Ghost shells. That was her whole thing in Curse of Osiris. And speaking of Curse of Osiris, there is no reason to use footage of our Ghost from CoO where Sagira's shell is in the screen. There's plenty of footage of our Ghost! Why use CoO? Hell, why use Sagira twice when talking about the Hive Ghosts in the trailer?

Now, I'm firmly still of the belief that Sagira died. She definitely died, at least in some form, on the Moon, when she saved Osiris.

But it's important to note that, just like Osiris, Sagira is unfathomably old and has powers that we've seen no other Ghost having, including being able to inhabit other Ghost shells and surviving things that other Ghosts couldn't. That doesn't mean that she somehow survived the Moon incident intact, but if any piece of her remained, I wouldn't put it past her ability to stay tethered to our world and unfortunately get picked up by Savathun's experiments.

Remember, Savathun spent a lot of time in the City rummaging through everything humanity knows about the Light and Ghosts. It's even specified in lore that "Osiris" was going through everything at his disposal about Ghosts, presumably in a way to find out how to bring Sagira back. Knowing that this was Savathun changes a lot. We still have no clue what she needed the Light Suppressing tech from the Psions for. How she created the Ghosts. When.

I know Sagira was one of the only few Ghosts we interacted with in the story and who appeared as a major character in the story and who has extensive footage, so obviously when showing regular Ghosts, Bungie can only show our Ghost, Glint and Sagira to really make an impact. It still remains strange that they would use two different shots of Sagira and tie her with Savathun's experiments with Ghosts and the Light in that footage.

Not sure if there's any conclusion to this, but I wanted to put it out there for consideration. I would love an allied Hive Ghost who could help us with understanding what happened and who could be our link to other side of Lightbearing powers and it would be both incredible and heartbreaking to see that a part of Sagira has been preserved but not with all of her memories intact. That in some way, Sagira's uniquely powerful Light allowed her to transcend her death and defy a second Hive God.

Don't hope for too much, but it would be really neat and would be much more interesting than having Savathun's Ghost be a revived Hive-Sagira abomination.

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