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askprinceakechi · 7 years

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OOC Anthy/Akechi comparison

Wooooooo boi, I’m sorry this took so long. I actually rewatched the entire Black Rose arc and end of series before I wrote this so I could have it fresh in my mind. If only I had an easier time seeing all the Akechi scenes too.

Thank you both for your intrest! Also I havn’t seen Evangelion in so long but please, Anon!!! I would love to hear their comparisons as well, please send them to me!!!! @reversalsun

I’m gonna preface this by saying this is not a “Akechi has done nothing wrong” post. Akechi has done many things wrong. Akechi has done some truly terrible shit. I do believe Akechi to be a tragic figure however and more so a product of a lot of shitty things. Despite this being, like, way too long this is only the bare bones of my analysis of both Akechi. Hahahaaaa, if you want more on Akechi and how I in particular view him and his bs lemme know. Though some will be coming out with asks on the blog depending what people ask. I’m so sorry I’m incredibly long winded, this is like, 5+ pages omg. Good luck reading all of this losers.

ALSO THIS IS LIKE ALL SPOILERS. YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN’T READ IT UNLESS YOU’VE COMPLETED AT LEAST SHIDO’S PALACE. BETTER YET THE TRUE ENDING TO THE GAME.

The major similarity between Anthy and Akechi however is their position of power. Or rather, their lack of power. Both have crumpled under a much more powerful thumb. Anthy, who accepts her role and who even fears life outside of it; while Akechi has turned a blind eye to it. He’s not dumb, Akechi knows he is being used but he seems to view himself from an underdog position. He thinks it’s all just a matter of time until he can flip the script and turn it around on Shido. Akechi only accepts this power being held over him as a temporary thing, hell even something as part of his plan. No matter how untrue it is. Anthy knows she is being used as well, but rather than take it as a temporary thing she has accepted this as her role in life. It is all she knows.

They both work through so many layers of masks. Neither Anthy or Akechi seem fond of revealing their true face. The only time Utena ever sees Anthy’s bare face are few and far between, most notably the time Anthy attempts to commit suicide and at the very end of the series after Utena tears open her coffin. Otherwise her true self is concealed behind a pleasant and demure face, only hints of herself showing through when she chooses or cracks a bit. Akechi is very much the same (hell he gets referred to as the “pleasant boy”). His mask is almost as unshakeable as Anthy’s, only she has had forever to perfect it while Akechi is only human. Akechi seems to have quite a few different faces. One of the public, one for ‘acquaintances’ and one for “””” friends””””, under that his true self very much like a matryoshka doll. They don’t like to say what they mean; their words are picked deliberately and often have double meanings that need to be dissected. Or, all they say is fluff. Soft pleasantries that are used for very little other than to pacify or distract from their true selves. Anthy and Akechi are both very manipulative especially when it comes to defending their true selves from any more hurt.

They’re both used to pain to their masks. This is pain they know well, it’s expected, familiar, a demon they know as well as a lover. It still hurts but something they know how to handle it, and so they guard their true selves viciously. The only way they could truly feel the pain again would be from an injury to their true self. Thus, no one gets to know who they are. To know their true self would be to open up their only weakness. To know their true self would be an ultimate show of trust. Anthy gets hers, Akechi, starts but ultimately does not.

Their tragedies also both started at a young age. Anthy starting even before she sacrificed herself to the crowd to protect her brother. Akechi’s started from birth and came to a head when he lost his mother. Both were only children when their path of misfortune was laid out for them, and both took the terrible path with stride.

Anthy gave up her freedom, took on the mantel of rose bride and succumbs to the swords of human hatred in an ouroboros cycle as many times as Akio demands it of her. She is a puppet of Akio, a puppet of end of the world, a puppet of adolescence and a puppet of her own fear. She lets all of this own her.

Akechi gave up everything in hopes of revenge, respect, and a will to actually be wanted. Akechi has to be, what? 17 in the game? Assuming it was the first, and assuming the whole thing with Wakaba happened roughly two years ago Akechi’s final turn down his path of ruin truly started at 14-15. Still deep in his adolescence, still a child in just about every respect. Akechi hands over all authority he had as a person to a monster like Shido before he ever had the chance to really understand what that meant. He put the puppet strings on himself and gave them to Shido thinking it was all part of his own plan for revenge. He was a child betting in an adult’s game and rather than the adults protecting him they ensured his ruin. Once he had established what he was capable of and the world of the Metaverse to Shido he had sealed his fate. There is no way a man like Shido would ever willingly give up that sort of power. Akechi was trapped to doing his bidding or to die, and he knew that. However, his own pride his want to be acknowledged kept him from just killing Shido himself. It would be a hallow victory if Shido died without ever knowing his crimes and without ever knowing who it was who bested him.

Just as Anthy had ensured her own imprisonment to Akio. After all she was the only perceived way for him to regain the power he had as Dios. She was the only one willing and capable of being skewered by the swords of human hatred and letting Akio get off completely undamaged. She was the only way to get Dios back after she had sealed him away for his own protection. Akio wouldn’t willingly let her go. Not that it was something he ever had to worry about before the end of the series. Anthy wouldn’t leave him without her own revolution.

Both were keys to the power of those who were using them and both were unable or unwilling to leave their abusive situation.

A part in which he differs from Anthy but I still find it important to mention.

Akechi truly has been a puppet all along, of Shido and more importantly of Yaldabaoth. He, who, just like Akira had been had picked by a god to lead these lives is given the absolute worst draw. Because, unlike Akira, Akechi suffered all through it alone. Akira has the Phantom Thieves, he has his confidants and most importantly he has Morgana. Akira got a guide though the world of the Metaverse and someone to teach him the ins and outs of how the heart worked. What would possibly kill someone.

As far as we know Akechi got none of this. Akechi traversed the Metaverse alone and a bit of a head canon from myself it was a form of escapism for him. Suddenly Akechi was special. He had a power no one else ever could have, he had a world that he alone could enter and that he could control. After being such a lonely child, after losing everything and everyone and being an unwanted being from the beginning he could be special. Not to mention he get a persona with that, either Robin Hood or Loki or even both at once. Yes, they are a part of him, a reflection of who he is but in the same breath it was a voice that wasn’t his, and a mind that wasn’t truly his. He was no longer alone.

We are not told exactly what happened with Wakaba. We don’t know if Akechi knew that killing her shadow would kill her in real life as well. We don’t know if he was just trying to enact a change of heart just like the Phantom Thieves would later do. We just don’t know. As a personal head canon, I don’t think he knew. I think he was trying to prove he could affect her as a way of showing his power to Shido and he ended up killing her. Without searching out whoever the person whose shadow he killed he wouldn’t have a way of knowing beforehand that it actually killed them in the real world. Or, perhaps he never fought those types of shadows in the first place. Another thing left up to speculation.

“If it cannot break out of its shell, the chick will die without ever being born.” “We are the chick” “The world is our egg” “If we don’t crack the world’s shell, we will die without ever truly being born”

A line that refers to actually, everyone. Every person is a chick stuck in their shell and until they are ready to pass from adolescence to adult they are unable to break their shell. Seriously one of the only straight forward lines that exist in the series.

Anthy is stuck in her shell. She is doomed to die again and again because she refuses to break out. In the end, the world is an allusion to their passage from adolescence to adult. She refuses to grow up and rather is willing to stay in the school with Akio, and continue to be the rose bride for all eternity out of fear and love. She is scared of the outside world, and yet, no one can break the shell but her.

The same goes for Akechi. His own fear, his own wants, desires and hurt keep him from growing as a person. They keep him from breaking out of his own shell and rather he rots, he festers in his egg and is doomed to die. He’s stuck in his own adolescence and the mistakes he made as a child because he won’t crack his shell to breathe. He’s also scared of the world outside of his plans, out of what he knows. Another head canon of mine is that Akechi has no clue what he would do with his life if his plans succeeded. If he killed Shido, if he made him acknowledge Akechi as the one who bested him and as his son. He has very little will and drive outside of that, he’s lost another reason he has put off his plans for so long.

Anthy near the end of the series thanks Utena for letting someone like her. Someone hallow and empty with no heart have a taste of true friendship. Although, at this point she follows Akio still she is regretful about how this all has turned out, and is upset how she has hurt and betrayed Utena.

Akechi gets a small taste of this as well. Although the Phantom Thieves never trusted him fully he was still on the team. Akechi still got to feel what it was like to be on a team with his peers and even laments that “If he had only met (Akira) a few years earlier…”. He got a taste for friendship and comradery and what his life could have been had he just had friends.

Another point I bring up is Anthy stabbing Utena at the end of the series and Akechi shooting Akira.

The reason Anthy stabs Utena is up to speculation. If it was because this is what Akio told her to do, if she really is evil (She isn’t), but the theory I like best is Anthy does it out of fear. Hope is a scary thing to someone who has been in a position like Anthy’s. She sees Utena fighting Akio and finds hope in her. She sees a chance of Utena actually beating Akio and is frightened of her hope. If she does win then, what does that mean for Anthy? Would she get to leave? Would the Rose Bride no longer be needed? Would Akio die? Would Dios really come back? What about the swords of human hatred? Would they attack Utena instead of her? She has no way of knowing. No one has ever come as far, ever actually cared for her, or was her friend like Utena was. She stabs Utena out of fear of the unknown and misplaced kindness. Better one sword from a friend and some harsh words than taking on all the world’s hatred.

Akechi has wildly different reasons for shooting Akira. First being he was told to. This was part of the plan that Shido and himself had worked out. The second being that Akira was in his way. The Phantom Thieves were poised to be able to take out Shido before he ever could enact his full plan. He couldn’t let that happen because (head canon) everything he had done up until then, every murder, all the blood on his hands, would be for nothing if Shido didn’t know it was Akechi who killed him. Third (Also head canon) his own fear of the unknown, of the future has him wanting to protect Shido in an odd way. Shido is terrible and he hates him, he wants him dead. He however is also the only one blocking Akechi from the future.

I swear I’m almost to the end of this.

The adolescence of Utena, and Revolutionary girl Utena the titles are both huge points to the story itself. In the end Utena is a story about growing up. It’s a story about breaking the cycles of abuse. It’s a story about the how no one can save you but yourself but how someone else can spark that revolution inside of you. It’s a story about how revolution doesn’t have to be this huge world ending thing, but rather the revolution inside a single person. In the end Anthy realizes all of this. Utena doesn’t become the Prince because the Prince is dead. It’s an outdated and childish concept that is seeped deeply in toxic ideals of staying the way things have always been. The Prince is about staying in your adolescence and playing pretend that a magic castle would grant you power, would grant your ‘revolution’. Utena realizes this too.

Utena isn’t the one who pulls Anthy out of her coffin because just like the egg no one can pull you out of it but yourself. However, Utena showed Anthy the way out and she showed Anthy that the cover can be removed. Utena sparked the revolution in Anthy’s heart and in the end Anthy climbs out of her coffin by herself. Anthy breaks the shell of her own egg. She herself is the revolution so desperately coveted. She leaves the school, she leaves Akio, she leaves behind her chains of The Rose Bride and becomes her own person. She has grown up.

Just like Anthy, Akechi has a revolution sparked in his own heart as well. In the end, when the Phantom Thieves showed him kindness despite seeing who he truly is. Despite knowing all his crimes, they still show him mercy. They don’t abandon him and they don’t try to kill him when he has been defeated. He begins to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Had it not been for the Cognitive! Akechi showing up I truly believed Akechi would have had a revolution as well. In the end, Akechi had a chance to go back to his old ways. He could have just shot Akira like Shido and Cognitive! Akechi wanted him to. He could have given himself that second chance to keep going so that /he/ could be the one to kill Shido. Like he had always planned.

He doesn’t.

Rather he sacrifices himself to save the Phantom Thieves. This is his revolution no matter how small. This is his start at redemption even if it is cut short by death. Akechi climbed out of that coffin, he broke out of that shell, and though he was met with death he threw off his shackles with the help of the Phantom Thieves. Akechi finally had a taste of freedom.

*FINGER GUNS AWAY* I’m tired now

#OOC #Character study #mun talks #Goro Akechi #Utena parody #i mean kinda #dude holy shit please be gentle on me #I'm on so many painkillers #I just got out of surgery eariler today #I hope this actually makes sense #and isn't just a jumble of words cause i'm out of it #spoilers #p5 spoilers #persona 5 spoilers #utena spoilers

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sillyfudgemonkeys · 7 years

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“this is fun on the surface but it’s actually pretty dark if you think about it” uh pardon me but how is that different from P5? If anything that sounds more like P5 to me since P4 didn't get that dark at all

Oh....oh no......buddy...pal, ok sorry I didn’t explain it better that is a little on me, I just assumed and yeah sorry. ;w; Before I got into more detail on P4 vs P5, first I want to address the “P4 didn’t get dark at all”....haha...no....you’re right, a video game which revolves around murder (where you literally see their dead bodies, and for one of them you see a glimpse of her being killed on screen), an on screen death of a 7 year old (and the gd aftermath and everyone’s reactions oh man), the fact your friends get torn apart and consider MURDERING SOMEONE to avenge said 7 year old (oh yeah just normal teenage stuff >.> but really this is the best part in the game and the whole happy fun stuff really pays off when all of that is put on the line), you hear Naoto’s death scream if you fail to confront Adachi (you know cause she’s being murdered while on the phone with you!), you see all your friends and yourself get literally dragged to hell (and you hear the pleas of a panicking Rise), you see the literal personifications of people’s hidden trauma and problems (just imagining their lives if they didn’t except themselves is depressing as heck), the Shadow Selves’ faces are really freaking creepy, the fact that Shadow!Naoto’s implied “operation” on Naoto would’ve just been pretty much the Shadow dissecting her, just the fact we see in SLs and in story how their lives are pretty much on the verge of falling apart (Chie and Yukiko’s friendship was on the fast track to a literal blow out, Dojima being neglectful of Nanako, Shu and his overbearing mother, the mourning of a sister with Naoki and so on), you can choose to side with the killer and that ending is freaking creepy, the gd music gets so freaking creepy (Omen anyone?), oh back to Izanami you know the death goddess and whom you fight as a bloodied skeleton no that’s not creepy at all, just the idea of being trapped in the Midnight Channel (esp if you don’t have a persona) and have to be surrounded by monsters is anxiety inducing enough, and so on...yeah....totally not a dark game at all. 8U Yes P4 is very light hearted, but that doesn’t mean it’s not dark. As stated above, when you’re friends are divided on murdering someone, that’s the pay off for making it light hearted up to that point, the strain of relationships, the fact it could all crumble if you make one wrong choice and the choices aren’t a giant red “this is the bad end” sign like in P3/5. It can be really anxiety inducing. Sorry if I got a little overly passionate about that, but yeah I’mma defend that P4 is still a dark game till I die.

Ok so... P5 is dark right off the bat, it’s in your face about it (ya see a girl jump off a building c’mon). Yes, P4 starts off similar, it’s pretty dark off the bat but there’s a....bystander effect in place here unlike with P5 where you’re also involved in Kamoshida’s stuff (plus like the first time you fall into the TV there’s like all these potty jokes like c’mon they walking the fine line of bathos here). You ask anyone if P1-3 and P5 were dark the answer would be “Yes, why are you asking that???” If you ask the same about P4 half the people will be like “Lol noooooooo! It’s super happy wut r u talking about???” and the other half is “Yeah, there’s a lot of fridged horror to it that people don’t seem to realize or just ignore.” Also can I just say....P5 isn’t “fun,” esp compared to P4. By “fun” I mean they don’t really....hang out....that much....and when they do it’s not....really that memorable.....and/or....it’s mostly only about PT affairs (at least with P4 they would discuss IT affairs and then change the subject). So like....I’m sorry but “fun” is def P4′s territory, P4′s biggest strength and what makes it stand out is that they had the most and the “best”/memorable (ymmv on that of course) “fun” moments/events. So...there’s that.

Anyway, P4 is subtle about it’s fridged horror while the other’s are not. Because it’s presented light heartedly lots of people don’t see it’s dark underbelly. Yes, Atlus did state both games were made with “fun” in mind, but P4 that was the main point while P5 it was “when I think of phantom thieves I feel like they are very fun,” there’s a difference. And I think one reason why P4 stands out is that it deals a lot with bathos (and it can handle them well). P5 does not. My idea with P6 is that it draws a similar feel from P4, because both have very “positive” colors. P6 would dabble in bathos like P4, dark stuff but then swerve and make it happy again (maybe cause they want to ignore it, ironically I see people joking about that with mental illness so that might actually be kinda topical in and of itself). As for the horrors, I felt like P4 felt more with the psychological side of fridged horror, esp with the “what ifs” and implications, which I think would fit P6 very well (well this idea of P6 that is).

(btw I hope I didn’t come off as rude here, I was trying to keep it light hearted I swear ;w; I’m tired an about to go to sleep but I wanted to reply before I went to bed, but I’m sorry in advance if I did come off as rude or anything ;w;)

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