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parti-pooper · 4 years
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Get this. So I'm watching South Park Doubling Down, and the part where the fourth grade girls are telling Kyle he must like Heidi because why else would he be interfering so much? Then it hits me. The girls had it backwards... This wasn't about Heidi at all... Make of that what you will.
Oh, no, yeah. I’ve always believed that the girls had it the wrong way ‘round and Kyle just accepted their suggestion that he liked Heidi because, well, he himself didn’t understand why he was so invested in their relationship. If he had a crush on Heidi, he could make sense of his own involvement in her love life, ya dig? It is perfectly logical, right?
What doesn’t make sense about it, though, is that Kyle has never been unaware or unsure about having a crush on a girl before. Don’t believe me? Well, take a stroll with me now down the memory lane of Kyle’s crushes, if you will, and you will see what I mean...
First we have Rebecca, and Kyle knew from day one that he like-liked her. She was obviously wicked smart, and he was smitten by her. (It also helped that she “really was quite good-looking,” enough to write a song about.) She beat his ass at the spelling bee fair and square, and he was immediately like... “Respect.” He seemed to know his interest in her was romantic, since he wanted to serenade her with a guitar and give her flowers and all of that Hollywood romance junk he likely copied from TV. He wanted to go over to her house to talk with her, and he let her do whatever she wanted with him just so he could spend time with her. It was a very juvenile, Baby’s First Crush kind of thing; but it was still a legitimate crush. Nobody ever had to tell him what he was feeling, nor did he ever have to ask himself, “Hm... Do I? Don’t I?” Kyle was fully aware of his own feelings, and acted on them without preamble. He knew what he wanted, and without anyone telling him either. Unlike with Heidi, when he didn’t know and did have to be told.
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Next we have Nichole. This is a little bit different from Kyle’s last crush since he only showed feelings for Nichole once he thought she was into him. It could be that he was attracted to her even before that, though. Maybe he was kind of trying to ignore his feelings for this pretty cheerleader at first, thinking he didn’t have a shot with her; but when he saw a sign that she liked him too, he decided he had a chance. You could see an immediate change in him. He didn’t have to ask himself, “Am I into her too?” He knew straight away that he very much was. It was actually adorable watching the high enthusiasm he bounded around with, trying to find out more about her and figure out how to ask her out. He was so excited when he was told she likes basketball, just like him, and he was totally stoked on their date. You could see there was no doubt in his mind. In fact, he had to be told by another person not to like her - rather than be told by other people that he did like her - when Cartman pointed out to Kyle that Nichole was already with Token and he would be breaking up a nice thing if he didn’t quit pursuing her. There was no uncertainty or outside influence in his crush on her.
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Last we have Leslie. True, she kind of had, like, manipulative powers, being an Ad; so there’s room to argue whether Kyle’s crush was legitimate when he was simply brain-washed by her like everyone else. Still, Kyle knew he wanted to be this girl’s Nice, White, Jewish Knight. He wanted to protect her from harm. He wanted to hold her close. No one else told him, “Go take care of Leslie, it’s what you want.” He just already had that urge because of what he (or rather, his dick) was feeling for her. He was sure about what he wanted with her; he was so sure that he ditched his friends to run off and hide with her while he figured out a plan to make her safe. With Leslie, you could tell Kyle’s feelings were a “!” (until she was revealed, that is). While with Heidi, you could see Kyle’s feelings were a “?”
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Now you’ve seen how he was with his other crushes, how does that make you feel about his “crush” on Heidi? Isn’t it strange that this boy who has never had to be told before “You like this girl” to know it, suddenly had to be told just that? Isn’t it odd that this boy who has never had to ask himself before “Do I like this girl?” to be sure of it, suddenly had to ask himself just that? I don’t know about you, but I’m not buying it.  
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Does this look like the face of a boy who’s confident in his feelings, or confused?
Isn’t it also strange that Kyle’s interactions with Heidi were not focused on Heidi? He didn’t sing to her with a guitar, he didn’t play games she wanted to appease her, he didn’t run around the school happily when he felt like he had a shot with her, he didn’t ask her friends about her interests so he could take her out on the perfect date... In fact, we didn’t even really see Kyle talk to Heidi about her at all, unless it was about her involvement with...
Cartman.
Yup. If you ask me, that is the element of Heidi’s relationship that Kyle was really invested in from the start. It was always about Cartman. It was just easier to say, “I have a crush on Heidi,” however, than for Kyle to admit he has this obsession with Cartman. So when the girls gave him that out, Kyle took it. That’s how I feel.
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Just look at when Cartman confronted Kyle about stealing Heidi away from him. Kyle’s arguments weren’t about her at all. They were about Cartman. He didn’t say to Cartman, “She wasn’t happy.” He didn’t say, “Both of you weren’t happy.” No, what he said was, "You weren’t happy.” It’s almost as if Cartman’s feelings were the only ones which mattered to him. Wow. He went on to say, “All you did was bitch about her all the time,” as if he was trying to make him see that he did him a favour, as if he was implying that he took Heidi for Cartman’s sake. Not for his sake. Not for her sake. Cartman’s.
Because of all this, I am fully convinced that Kyle’s intervention in Cartman and Heidi’s relationship had nothing to do with any confused feelings for Heidi that he could put an acceptable name to, and everything to do with all his confusing feelings for Cartman that he couldn’t put an acceptable name to.
That’s just a theory though... A gay theory. [Puts on sunglasses and finger-guns]
Anyway... Poor Kyle, huh? He’s been so unlucky in love. I just hope that one day he’ll find someone who has all the same things he liked about those girls that got away.
Someone like Rebecca, who can challenge him, and mentally stimulate him...
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Someone like Nichole, who shares his interests, and he can enjoy being with...
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Someone like Leslie, who he wants to be there for, and protect with his life...
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...Oh, wait a minute. >w>
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parti-pooper · 4 years
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Kydi (kyle x heidi) ?
Although I’ve said before that I don’t believe Kyle really had a crush on Heidi, that’s not to say I’m against them having a relationship. Though the idea of them together doesn’t excite me like it does other pairings I’m more into, I can see the appeal of these two nice, smart people hooking up. I think - if it wasn’t dirtied by Cartman’s influence - they could have a pretty stable relationship. Kyle would be there for any fundraisers Heidi held for the local animal shelter, and Heidi would cheer loudest for Kyle at all his basketball games. They’d likely have study dates at each other’s houses, and might even plan to go to the same college. It’s cute.
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parti-pooper · 5 years
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Cartman has the ability to attract two very smart and pretty girls like Wendy and Heidi. He could totally do the same with Kyle one day if he tried.
Bold of you to imply that Kyle is smart and pretty, Anon… >w>Haha, nah, I’m with you, Anon! Your rationale is sound. I wonder how he does it? Because Cartman is not necessarily academically or logically smart, like Wendy and Heidi are. He’s kind of a dumbass most of the time, in fact. So maybe it’s an opposites attract situation? The smart girls are attracted to the not-so-smart boy. But then, as people have pointed out time and again, Cartman has his own kind of smarts going on. He’s got street smarts of a sort: he figures out how the world works, and how he can manipulate the system to his advantage. And he’s also got some emotional intelligence going on: he figures out how people work, and how he can manipulate them to his advantage. He’s really creative, too, so he’s intelligent in that way as well. So perhaps these girls were drawn to his different, unique brand of smart, separate from their smartness, which balances their own type of intelligence out?
Also he’s apparently not a very good-looking dude, right now at this age at least. In the deleted scenes of The List, it was revealed he’d ranked last of all the boys in the looks department. And the South Park kids, in their current immaturity and desire for social standing, would be pretty shallow, I think, and put more value on appearances right now, rather than personality. So I doubt they’d go for Cartman naturally, for that reason. So what gives? Are Wendy and Heidi not as shallow as their peers? Or does Cartman, again, have this unique brand of attractiveness? Given how many people in this fandom think he is actually adorable (i.e., me), it wouldn’t be crazy to think Wendy and Heidi saw him as adorable as well despite his flaws.
In Heidi’s case, however, it could be more complicated. She was in this place of desperacy. She was essentially invisible to her peers. With no other way to gain attention than from Cartman, then, she may have been content to settle with his average, or below, looks. Or perhaps, in her state of social exclusion, she’d lost confidence in or awareness of her own attractiveness and decided that Cartman was on her level, looks-wise, and they were meant for each other. Then again, we don’t know how “pretty” Heidi actually is. To us she seems pretty cute; but, in the end, she’s just an egg with googly eyes. So maybe she is about the same as Cartman in terms of appearance, which could explain it. There are many options for why she was drawn to him physically, if at all, and I don’t know which is right.
As for Wendy, she seems to be a very pretty girl by South Park standards. She’s been liked by Stan, Cartman, Token, and Gregory. (I think even Clyde was trying to hit on her in the mobile game?) This suggests that she’s probably way out of Cartman’s league. So, again, either Wendy’s not as shallow as her peers (which is possible since she actively condemns people for being shallow, like when she scolded Butters for rejecting Lisa Berger due to being over-weight in The Hobbit; although, she tends to submit to societal pressures to “fit in”, i.e., mimicking Ms Ellen in Tom’s Rhinoplasty, getting her boobs enlarged in Bebe’s Boobs Destroy Society, giving in to Photoshop in The Hobbit), or Cartman has his own, unique brand of downright adorableness that Wendy was partial too (and, being honest, you probably don’t have dreams about boys with windswept hair riding shirtless on unicorns unless you think they look pretty fucking dang fine).
…Man, I sure went into something there. Sorry for the essay, ha! Let’s get back on track. *Ahem* Kyle. Yes. A cute, smart boy. Gets straight A’s. Gets liked by popular girls like Bebe and Nichole. Could probably get anyone he wanted. And is probably going to get Cartman, because damn it, for some reason the smart kids, as smart as they are, can’t seem to stay away from the troublesome muffin known as Eric T. Cartman! (Additionally, it’s pretty well-contested that when you like someone as a person, they’ll become more attractive to you. And I, for one, am pretty confident that Kyle does like Cartman mostly… mostly… So I’m pretty confident that Cartman already has that advantage, in that Kyle will already find him more attractive than your average person would due to his personal interest in and attachment to him.) Oh, Kyle. Kyle, Kyle, Kyle. You sure are in for it, son.
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parti-pooper · 5 years
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What do you think of Steidi?
In the nicest way possible, I’m indifferent to it. I have nothing against it, I mean, I just don’t personally find it interesting or appealing. I’m happy for the people who do enjoy it, though. Also, I wish I had their amazing ability to persevere with their ship while canon gives them nothing, haha! They’re true troopers. :)
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parti-pooper · 5 years
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Hi. I wanted to discuss the previous talk about Cartman's organized mind which seems to be the opposite of Heidi's scatter-brained time management. It actually makes perfect sense to me that Cartman, a highly organized manipulator who likes to be in control and have everything according to plan would have no patience for the likes of Heidi's poor timing. To me, it's just another indicator that Cartman and Heidi are not compatible together.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too, Anon. Thanks for putting in your two cents!
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