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shiut · 2 months
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Completely normal Makoto sprite sheets.
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shut-in-network · 11 months
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infectedpaul · 6 months
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How do you think Paulkotho/Pokothews would go about existing? At least, in your interpretation. I've been wanting to write a fic but I have zero idea HOW this would even happen. Would it be in a tgwdlm-aligned timeline. Why would Paul do that. Does the eldritch demon judt straight up flirt with her.
oh ill be real in canon the way it goes down is none of this romantic funny shit, pokeys got a deep seeded obsession with paul BECAUSE he cant have her, she just is not interested in any of the peacocking hes doing at her for the 2 hours of tgwdlm . the only way pokey Gets paul is by killing her and pushing his Idea of her onto her the same he does with everyone . what they have is not healthy at ALL its the writer of the story becoming so obsessed with his creation but the problem is paul ISNT a character shes a person with her own issues and desires and interests even if theyre not seen as important to the story so they go overlooked to pokey . they dont fit His narrative of her. to me theyre very. stanarrator. its just gods parasocial relationship with some woman . who has a girlfriend SOULMATE btw. good luck swingin past the universal constant, dicknips
but if i just HAD to imagine a timeline where . at least tgwdlm doesnt happen so its just . Goofy shenanigans and shit ive just been subbing to caktus' idea of pokey is a human and is planning the most RIGHTEOUS idea of loving the poor human and then betraying her but then . uh oh! Actually Feeling Things!
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If Vikka has a bigg form, does shiutpost do?
Oh boy I’m happy I made this >::3
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From Cat to Snakey-Cat!
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shiut · 3 months
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This is the rawest line in the game, it goes so hard.
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shiut · 4 months
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It's that time of year to once again think about that one part in a DR interview that talked about how Makoto had coordinated with the rest of his class to throw a surprise birthday party for Junko and Mukuro, and that was the moment Junko decided to plan the killing game.
Through the series, Junko has shown more open and visceral disgust for her own birthday than anything else, but her classmates throwing a party for her and her sister was just so genuinely kind and thoughtful and nice that it made her break and made her realize how meaningful her bond with her class was, and so that was the moment that she started concocting the idea for the killing game that she later put the people she cared about so much through.
And it's partially Makoto's fault. For caring enough to plan a party for a birthday that probably normally gets overshadowed by Christmas. Think about how Mukuro became attached to him because he was the only person who would smile at her genuinely. Even though by the end of the game he was so angry about their betrayal and all the awful things they had done, he still had once cared about them so much. Imagine when he got his memories of his school life back and truly realized the full extent how much he cared about them. How do you reconcile the conflicting emotions between those two different sets of memories.
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shiut · 5 months
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Comparison of Makoto's inner dialogue towards various objects between chapters 5 and 6, because he just get so angry and weird and neurotic in chapter 6. He just really goes off the walls after his botched execution
or maybe it's the untreated concussion from falling down a garbage pit...
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shiut · 2 months
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How much did Yakou know?
Very long and detailed analysis of Yakou's involvement in the plot beneath the cut.
Yakou is an interesting character to me. He gets his own mildly insightful short story about his detective origins. However, I crave to think that there's gotta be more to him than just the kind of pathetic (affectionate) stressed out dad-like figure that mostly kind of nags and bosses Yuma around for the majority of the game.
Ok, it sounds like I'm ragging on him, but he does have an occasional side of him in dire situations where he shows a selfless loyalty and trust in his team that proves he takes his leadership position seriously, even if he does really rock the irresponsible mess look. And he gets to be cool in his own chapter for a minute.
But there is a moment that sticks out to me, especially in hindsight after finishing the game, and that's the prologue where you get your first and probably most substantial talk with him.
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He says that he does not want Kanai Ward to change practically within the same breath where he explains how terribly he's treated as a detective in this horrendously corrupt murder infested police state.
Although he makes it clear that he has a deep personal affection and nostalgic attachment to this city that shows a bias for why he would say this, we hear from multiple people throughout the game that Kanai Ward has not been the same in recent years as it has been in the past that Yakou has rooted his love in.
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So why does he feel as if any change to the current state of Kanai Ward would disrupt the "peace and quiet" it deserves?
Unless he knows something about the city that's just so fundamentally irreparable that this is the closest to peace and quiet that it'll ever get again, and trying to fix it would only somehow destroy it.
Everything about the rooftop scene, from talking about the city, to Shinigami commenting on how ominous he feels to her, to the fact that he's the person who explains the rumor that the rain affects peoples' bodies.
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Highlighted text tends to be easy to overlook, but I can't help but feel like there's some significance to his usage of "illusion in the rain". It's like he knows something that nobody else can see (and an obvious foreshadowing of how the rain is one of the main means of covering up Kanai Ward's mystery).
But this segues into the themes of his later chapter which also focuses on Vivia, who mirrors Yakou in a lot of ways, beyond just being another guy who muses on about peace and quiet.
Speaking of, a mirror is what Vivia uses as a metaphor for the benefit of blissful ignorance and the potential catastrophic dangers of the painful truth.
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For the purposes of this chapter, he is explaining the type of pain and the effect on Yuma's world view that uncovering Yakou's crime will incur. It also acts as a setup for the development of Yuma's conviction that he will later need to use in the final chapter of the game. But the distorted reality the Vivia explains in the mirror does call me back to Yakou's "illusion in the rain" comment.
Vivia also explains that the truth that Yuma uncovers for truth's sake will lead to the destruction of the world. While he could be referring to the world and humanity in general, in the context of this chapter, world can mean a lot of things though, such as Yuma's innocence in the way he views the world as he knows it.
Or namely, from Makoto's point of view, it could also mean the destruction of the homunculi and the only version of the world that Makoto believes they can exist in.
Did Yakou come to a similar conclusion as Makoto based on what he found out?
Like Vivia in chapter 4, who did not want the culprit to be revealed, it seemed like Yakou had the full intention of not cooperating with investigating the Kanai Ward mystery until he was forced to by a directive from Number One. Even so, he came off as if encouraging the detectives to drag their feet on it for the sake of staying out of trouble.
But we know that he is not lazy, unmotivated, or stupid. In a world where you're competing with people who are fast-tracked into the WDO if they have literal super powers, Yakou was inducted by pure detective skill. He had definitely been spending a lot of his time laying low and investigating Kanai Ward himself, because he didn't trust the UG or the WDO if they turned their attention to the city.
Yakou already knew about the homunculus research in some way.
Even if he didn't know about everyone being a homunculus, he at least knew enough that he believed that the city itself would be shattered by the involvement of the UG and WDO.
And then we get to chapter 5 with the mindless zombie homunculi.
Except, they're not all completely mindless. As a matter of fact, I had come to notice something about all the non-aggressive homunculi: they all seemed to have some degree of awareness about Amaterasu's research.
The fake Zilch, who was one of Yomi's closest advisors and knew about all of Dr Huesca's and Yomi's activity in the lab concerning homunculus research, and was implied to be the one who killed Yakou's wife for whistleblowing. Fink, who was propositioned by Makoto himself to infiltrate the lab, and who was then killed by Makoto for 'knowing too much'. Dr Huesca, who was the head researcher for the homunculi. And the former CEO, who was the prime overseer of the research.
And then there was Yakou, who gives Yuma the video evidence of Dr Huesca's death at the hands of the homunculi as he explained the results of the experiment. The easy explanation is that Makoto planted this video on the zombie Yakou to be given to Yuma in the restricted area.
However, another thing that the non-aggressive zombies had in common is that they seemed to be stuck thinking about what seems to be their final thoughts before their death, barring the former CEO who was unusually lucid compared to all of them.
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Considering this, I feel like Yakou's final thoughts were for Yuma to expose the truth about the homunculi for him, and to give him the DVD as the key evidence he needed. Whether Makoto gave Yakou this video, or if Yakou already had this video himself, his final thought before dying was to make sure Yuma got it.
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I always thought it was a bit strange for Yakou to go and decide to murder Dr Huesca at the slightest provocation by Yomi, and then had this whole complicated coverup plan. If Kurumi could look into Yakou's background for only a day and come to the conclusion that Amaterasu had killed his wife for whistleblowing, then Yakou himself would've definitely already known and could've tried to kill Dr Huesca a long time ago.
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I don't think the provocation was by Yomi's letter. I believe at some point, he had found out that Huesca and Yomi could possibly leak information about the homunculus research. He decided to kill Huesca as a gambit reveal Yomi's involvement with leaking research before it could get out into the public and destroy Kanai Ward, and he entrusted this truth to Yuma and the rest of his detectives. Yakou knew that the lie that they were living, the one that was keeping Kanai Ward together, wasn't going to last much longer.
This conveniently aligned with Makoto's motives to oust Yomi. Makoto, the one who also knew that Yomi would cause the lie holding Kanai Ward together to unravel, and who happened to introduce Fink to Yakou. Fink thought that Yakou did not know about Makoto orchestrating their meeting, and perhaps he was right in that Yakou didn't know that it was Makoto specifically, but maybe Makoto was the one who tipped Yakou off to Amaterasu's homunculus research possibly being leaked and may have even given Yakou the DVD.
Makoto may not have exactly manipulated Yakou. It just simply that both Yakou and Makoto similarly knew that the UG sticking their nose into Kanai Ward about the homunculus research was incredibly dangerous. Makoto simply gave Yakou the ultimatum and means to stop Yomi. The difference is that Makoto's goal was to get rid of Yomi and assume full control of the city in order to further suppress its secret, but Yakou's goal was the provide the truth to his detectives in order to fix things.
And I wrote all this BEFORE the Yakou DLC came out.
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Where we find out that Yakou has had the prototype cure for homunculi the whole time. And depending on whether or not his wife here is a ghost or a hallucination, it seems like she had always known that there would be a need to regenerate the zombified brain cells of homunculi. Yakou might've been biding time not only to try and figure out how to reconcile the whole homunculus research issue without the UG destroying Kanai Ward, but maybe also for someone to finish research on this medicine.
TLDR; Yakou had always known about the homunculus research and was hiding it because he believed that the info getting leaked would cause the destruction of Kanai Ward by the hands of the UG. In the end, he figured out that the secret would not keep up for much longer, and his plot in chapter 4 wasn't for revenge, but to entrust that Yuma and the rest of his detectives would be able to uncover the truth and work out a way to save Kanai Ward.
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shiut · 4 months
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Kodaka saying things like Makoto Naegi is more confident, level-headed, optimistic, and a better communicator than Yuma
And seeing that he also apparently calls Shuichi the most fragile out of all the protagonists...
I want to power-scale all of the protagonists. Who's the strongest? I'm going to put them all into an arena.
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shiut · 3 months
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The voice actors of the first trial's victim/culprit of the series coming back to voice the protagonist and mastermind who face off in the final trial of the series is such an English dub win in V3. I have to wonder if it's a coincidence or if it's a fun easter egg they decided to do.
(But Shuichi having the voice of one of my all time faves, Ai Haibara from Detective Conan, is a huge Japanese version win. Especially right after Conan himself was a previous protag.)
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shiut · 4 months
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I've considered that the most likely reason that Number One chose Yuma Kokohead as the person to take his identity from was because it's a fresh rookie who probably has very little personal connections or interactions within the WDO, so there's much less of a chance for anyone to verify that it's not actually his identity (not to mention maybe similar builds could've been some sort of factor).
But also...
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What if he was chosen because Yuma is also Number One's real name, and he wanted to ensure that his amnesiac self was more likely to accept that the letter is for him because the name Yuma "sounds right".
My self indulgent headcanon.. because I think Yuma is a really cute name and is rather meaningful (especially next to the name Makoto)...
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shiut · 5 months
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A part that I like from dr3 is that is that it exhibited Makoto's willingness to kill when absolutely necessary.
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He premeditates a trap to kill Munakata. Not to just stop him or block his path. He watches and waits until he's drenched by the sprinklers and makes sure that the pool of water reaches his feet before throwing the live wires into it in order to electrocute him. A surprisingly brutal murder method that Makoto of all people has the distinction of being one of the only non-monokuma characters in the series I can think of who attempts it (considering most of the other murders in the series just come down to essentially a bonk or stab).
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And when that fails, in desperation he tries to ambush him to bludgeon him with a fire extinguisher. Now, whether or not he is even physically capable of killing him even if he did land a hit... but he still gave it a good couple of tries.
Not to mention, it's not even something reserved for his enemies.
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He expresses that he'd even have the willingness to kill a person who's precious to him if he had to.
He's not an extreme pacifist who would refuse to hurt anyone no matter what. He's just a guy that does what he must in order to survive; a sentiment I've felt aligns with his character even ever since dr1 and has developed even more since then.
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shiut · 4 months
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Despite Yuma's comment about not really feeling the urge to drink when checking out the liquor at a bar, I couldn't help but find it funny how seemingly excited he appears to be about the wine and beer that he sees in the hideout cooler.
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The "Woww~" voice clip that goes along with this pleased sprite portrait is very cute.
But also, I couldn't help but be impressed when I saw Makoto's fancy dedicated dual-zone wine cooler.
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Perhaps it's not just for aesthetic like Shinigami suggests, unless the empty slots are part of the aesthetic too.
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He definitely partakes, and the former CEO even seems to imply that Makoto is often the one to bring the wine to his meetings.
It really makes me imagine that Makoto, and perhaps by extension Number One, are absolutely wine sippers. It would pair well with his love of charcuterie, after all.
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shiut · 2 months
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Both danganronpa and even rain code have this underlying but incredibly persisting theme of the cognitive dissonance between one's personality vs their own nature that I can't help but think about a lot.
In my head I tend to call it the "Leon paradox" because he's the first and most obvious character I think of in regards to this, though he's far from being the only one. Despite being an effortlessly talented baseball prodigy, he dislikes doing it and his actual passion is becoming a musician. However, he's pigeonholed into doing something he doesn't enjoy simply because he's good at it and it's a means to an end since it's his only way of getting anywhere.
This gets expanded in dr2. Imposter's dissatisfaction with having to always be someone else. Akane not caring about being a gymnast much at all aside from the perks it gets her. Nagito's disdain for his luck talent that brings him constant misery while also acknowledging that it's the one thing about himself that he can count on the most.
It even becomes a focal point with Hajime, who did everything to fight his nature of lacking a talent. However, Chiaki points out that it's the fact that he has no specific talent that gives him more freedom than any of the ultimates that he admires. Turned out, gaining every talent put Hajime into his own prison, and it's his loss of personality that made him essentially useless.
Even in V3 you have Kaede who actually loves her talent so much that she feels like it's an obsession that affects her ability to socialize normally. Kokichi also seems to have brief moments where he acknowledges that his talent is a huge barrier to being able to actually connect with people and causes his loneliness, but decides that it's a compulsion that's too troublesome to change so he just accepts it.
Shuichi sticks out to me when it comes to this theme. He's extremely good at detective work and will often do it on impulse regardless of reward. However, even just stumbling on his first murder case and solving it before the police could even touch it, he could not cope with the results of the person he'd affected. His emotional sensitivity traumatized him into being avoidant, even using a hat as a literal blinder. He was prepared to die in the first trial in fear of revealing the truth. His compulsion to do detective work even kind of ruined Kokichi and Kaito's plot in ch5, as he got so ahead of himself with revealing the truth that just kind of blurted everything out before realizing that he shouldn't have. His compulsion with detective work even seems to make him comparatively calmer and more focused during investigations than the other protagonists, despite easily being the emotionally weakest-willed out of all of them. He repeatedly keeps falling back into his talent despite the emotional toll it has on him because he just can't help himself. He kind of acts as an example of one of the reasons why Kyoko was trained to be emotionally detached.
Jin actually is very much like Shuichi. He tries to actively avoid detective work because he despises the emotional detachment required for it. You wouldn't even know that he's actually really good at it, but you see glimpses into his skill in the novels where he'll end up figuring things out before even Kyoko does on more than one occasion. I can talk a lot about Jin, but I do get the feeling that one of the reasons why he works at Hope's Peak is because he knew more about what would end up happening there than he let on. He probably could have gotten quite a few things done if he wasn't so insistent on fighting his own nature as a detective.
Very honorable mention to Yui, who turned down an invitation to Hope's Peak for her high-jumping talent in order to pursue her passion as a very mid detective. She might've even lived if she went to Hope's Peak because I'm pretty sure she would've graduated by the time of the tragedy, but at least she died in the most based way possible by rejecting them.
And of course, Junko is a prime example of the detrimental effect of talent. Because of her analytical abilities, she can practically guess everything that's going to happen. Her obsession with despair is a desperate attempt at being mentally stimulated in a society that has let the status quo stagnate to such a critical degree that it's the reason why the very concept of talent had been rotted to this point. Sorry to Kodaka, who has repeatedly said that Junko is meant to be a truly evil villain with no motivation, but he did kind of accidentally give her a motivation in dr0 where we're shown for a fact that without her memories and ability to analyze, she's relatively normal and tame. That is her nature, just a kind of weird girl who wants to be a tradwife and go grow corn somewhere. However, I think it can be argued that what is meant by "pure evil with no motivation" is that she doesn't have any sort of tangible tragic backstory. You can even say it's not her analyst ability alone that caused her madness, since there's plenty of normal non-world-ending analysts. It may simply be that her personality happened to mix terribly with her talent, and that's the nature of what makes her pure evil, because both of those aspects of her are part of her nature that she can not (nor does she even want to) control despite the misery it causes her. She simply learned to love the misery.
Makoto himself is very clear about being bitter about his luck. For the most part, what's apparent to him is that it causes him constant trouble and the good that it actually does for him is so subtle and disjointed that he doesn't even realize it's his luck. However, I think what makes him different from people like Nagito or Junko is his personality. He doesn't obsess like they do, and his optimism makes him bounce back easily. I think his luck even feeds into his personality and, inverse to Junko, it's the unpredictability of his luck that makes him hopeful and optimistic. Since he never knows what's going to happen to him, he had to develop a way to roll with the punches.
The aspect of personality vs ability also carries over to rain code. The master detectives are people who have innate psychic abilities that are seemingly based on their nature, and then it gets refined and specialized based on their personality. Not only does their personality help to refine these powers, but you see that their personalities and abilities often have detrimental impacts on each other.
Halara can't see living things in their postcognition because they aren't good at looking at people. Pucci's ability makes her hearing so sensitive that it's at least partially caused her emotional detachment. Melami not only likes fashion so much that she must wear the clothes of someone to use her power, but she also has to actually like the clothes too. Vivia is constantly fatigued and has depressive tendencies due his tenuous attachment to his spirit.
Former Number One/Makoto are a great example of this sort of destructive feedback loop of cognitive dissonance. You can infer that their empathy and obsession with helping people is what gives them the ability to use coalescence and share anyone's abilities, yet it's the fact that they can do anything that makes them feel like they must do everything. Ironically, the fact that they've convinced themselves that they must do everything makes their ability essentially useless because they end up only working alone. As a result, Former Number One became detached with every emotion except for his obsession, and it's what caused Makoto to ultimately spiral.
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shiut · 5 months
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Summary of how Makoto Naegi defeated Junko:
"You have to despair or die, pick one."
"Those choices suck."
"Look at all this crazy stuff that's happening, there's nothing left for you or anyone else, you have to pick one."
"No I don't."
"The fuck you mean no you don't? Any normal person would pick one or the other in this circumstance."
"I pick neither and it's not even close."
"You're insane. You are actually ill. What the hell is wrong with you? You don't even function off of logic."
"Too bad, logic can't stop me cuz I refuse to stop."
"Well damn if logic doesn't work on you then I guess I'll die."
Makoto's defining trait is that he's so obstinate that it made Junko implode. He's cute as a pushover sometimes, but I love to see stubbornly defiant Makoto too.
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shiut · 3 months
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I know that a strong argument could be made that Makoto was the one who wrote and planted that note on the criminal's corpse in the meat bun factory. You could even reasonably think that he could've been sprinkling lies during the mystery labyrinth in order to make his arguments seem more sound.
But let's talk under the context of a world that's run by a singular overreaching government that was canonically not above corruption and inhumane experimentation for the military.
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This is a world where the death penalty exists. And Number One/Yuma was the guy in charge of the organization that apparently convicts them.
Even though Makoto was the one giving orders to send criminals to Kanai Ward under the identity of Number One, and was somehow doing it without the real Number One's knowledge, it's clear that Makoto would simply not have the means to leave Kanai Ward and go around capturing criminals himself. He had to have the cooperation of the WDO and law enforcement in some way with capturing them and sending them to him.
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Not only that, but even if he did stealthily pretend to be Number One in order to do all this, that still means that Number One had the power to send criminals straight to a death sentence with no trial. This doesn't necessarily mean that Number One himself actually ever exercised that power or not, but he did have it.
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But maybe with the small pieces of implications that we get about Number One, I think I can kind of guess how he used to feel about this subject. And if we know anything for sure about the former Number One at all, it's the fact that he didn't feel anything outside his end goal.
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