#sebastian 1899

[nickbn26]

É cansativo ser triste

#1899 meme #sebastian 1899 #1899 netflix #eyk larsen #eyk 1899 #Eyk #My art #save 1899

[spectraling]

Merry Christmas! Have some 1899 homoeroticism requested by the effervescent @dragneto <3

#1899 netflix #netflix 1899 #eyk larsen #sebastian 1899 #eyk x sebastian #i have adapted the theory that sebastian is actually ciaran in disguise #and this whole sim game manipulation 5d chess is just a contest between the franklin siblings #to woo eyk #people destroying lives and causing immeasurable harm to get with andreas pietschmann #it checks out #my art

[sylviamarsh]

#1899 #1899edit #eyk larsen #sebastian 1899 #eyk x sebastian #periodedit #netflixedit #edit #tv #my kneejerk reading was 'ah I see eyk has secret Feelings for his first mate but he's too grief-addled to figure it out' #(and tbh that first impression did influence the rest of my viewing) #and then I thought 'oh no it's a confrontation. he's pulling rank. etc' #but it's not exactly that either #it's a question of trust #(not that I'm disavowing my first reading either. bisexual eyk larsen is a lifestyle)

[the-girl-in-the-high-castle]

1899 characters as cat memes I borrowed from Pinterest, part 2:

#1899 netflix #1899 #1899 memes #keep up with the memes #ling yi 1899 #olek 1899 #virginia Wilson #sebastian 1899 #krester 1899 #franz 1899 #Jéromé 1899 #darrel the stoker

[fatherramiro]

I've been thinking a lot lately about the backstories we didn't see in 1899 season one, especially in the wake of Olek's postcard being translated. Obviously with an eight episode first season, you can't really get into everyone's backstories and some characters - like Sebastian - were always going to be held back for season two for Mystery Purposes. But there's still a deliberate choice in which backstories we see.

For the purpose of this post, a backstory is a flashback sequence featuring a character prior to the Kerberos, even if it isn't their story that's being told. It does not include discussion of backstories - because all these characters do is lie - or stepping into a memory if we don't see the full backstory. Ergo, the characters who see backstories for are Maura, Daniel, Eyk, Ling Yi, Yuk Je, Jérôme, Lucien, Tove, Krester, Iben, Anker, and Elliot.

That leaves us with several major players who we don't know the full story about, namely Olek, Ramiro, Ángel, Virginia, Clémence, and Sebastian. We know Sebastian is deeply tied to the Singleton family drama (and yet seems to posses a strong loyalty to Eyk). Everyone else is ostensibly as trapped as everyone else is. But I wonder if the reason these backstories were specifically selected to not be shown in season one is because these characters might be somehow more connected to the simulation plot/Singleton family drama than we previously anticipated.

Let's break it down under a cut.

The easiest character to apply this theory to is Sebastian. He's basically Noah from Dark in that we see him as an antagonist character in season one! He's betraying Eyk and the crew, he is the one that gets the mutineers to want to kill Elliot, he actively does murder Eyk, he kidnaps Elliot, he kidnaps Maura, he's working for our main antagonist (at the time of the season one finale, that is)... and yet what do we really know about him? Whatever his story is, there's a lot to be explored there, and it makes sense that he's got a larger narrative role to play beyond double agent. This is a Bo and Jantje show after all - they don't do anything simple.

Virginia is also a logical choice for mysterious backstory/potential connection. She practically screams "I'm going to play a huge role in the story" from the moment she walks on screen. She tells Maura within five seconds of knowing her that she needs to stop being a seeker ("aren't some better things left in the dark?") before she leads the room in picking up their cups at the same time. She knows more than what she seems to know, even if at the end it seems like she's dissolving into dust. It is her undermining Maura that leads to most of the survivors going through Spooky Memory Hell after they split up. And it's very telling that she's saved just in time from the calling. She's up to shit, and it would make sense for her to not only be a much bigger player in the story but for her backstory to be saved for season two.

Virginia also has a very strong, almost fearful reaction in episode two to the ship going back to England. There's a couple other characters who get equally as freaked out by the concept in episode one...

Olek's second scene is him panicking in the engine room because the ship is turning around. He grabs one of the other workers and asks "why turn ship?" We don't know much about Olek at this point, only that he doesn't want to return to England, but why? The postcard translation implies he's taken over the identity of someone else named Olek, and quite possibly murdered a priest and thrown him in an oil well (doesn't that sound familiar...). He also, unlike every other "ghost" that appears to the characters, seems to be physically able to interact with the world around him in episode eight. And finally, while I realize the answer is probably "the plot", he was randomly on the deck when Ling Yi needed help in episode three. Yes, plot contrivances, but also why has he left his post? Usually he just goes to the loading area, but he's suddenly on the first class deck? What sparked that.

There's also the fact that Maciej and Rosalie (the actors who play Olek and Virginia, respectively) share a title card. With the exception of Emily, Aneurin, and Andreas, who have their own solo credits, all the actors who share title cards in the opening credits play connected characters (Miguel and José, Yann and Mathilde and Jonas, Isabella and Gabby, etc.) I know contracts determine who gets billed when and where but also there was a choice, along the line, to not put Maciej with Isabella and Gabby. And I think that's interesting.

The characters who we see panicking immediately after Olek in episode one are, of course, Ramiro and Ángel. We know mostly why they'd be freaking out - they're on the run after murdering a priest! But of all the character backstories who were saved for season two, these two make the most logical choice to be shown in season one. Not only would it provide character depth for Ramiro, who's already showing himself to be developing across all eight episodes, but it would provide some much needed backstory for Ángel which in turn would not only contextualize his shitty behavior in the first few episodes but also maybe give the audience more reason to feel sorry for him. It would also make Ángel's sudden turn from smug douche to loyal boyfriend make even more sense. There's a lot we can assume from what we're told about both characters but there is also a lot left vague and that begs more questions.

Both characters also display fascinating behaviors throughout the show. Ramiro, even as the show's moral center, never talks about his past at all. We know he killed a man, and we know he's a servant, but unlike everyone else (except Olek and Virginia) we have no idea what his life was like prior to the Kerberos really. Everyone else will talk themselves silly about their home lives and their traumas, but Ramiro keeps his past under wraps, despite the narrative easily having space to give him a chance to monologue about it. Ángel, on the other hand, seems to have some precognition about the simulation. He draws the final scene in the engine room in his sketchbook. He's the only person on the ship who is affected by the calling but not to the extent that he'll jump. In episode eight, he is the only ghost who can be heard by everyone and not just the person he's most connected to. I also think that the strange shot of him looking up the ceiling in episode seven as the ship creaks is a sign that perhaps he knew that it would kill him. So, what does he truly know, and does he even realize he knows it?

Speaking of not talking about one's past, we end with Clémence. It is very interesting that besides Clémence talking about her sister and how the things she wanted changed with Tove, we know very little about Clémence. Lucien implies her parents arranged the marriage between them, but we never see any of that on-screen. We do, however, get that interesting beat of her reacting to Lucien storming out in episode one with a rather odd look on her face. There's a pyramid paperweight that looks exactly like the pyramid outside Henry's office in her and Lucien's cabin. Her costume practically drips with symbolism - her earrings and hairpin are both the triangle symbol and she has a beetle detail on her collar.

Strangely enough, she and Jérôme are the only ones who we don't see escape from the memory wells in episode eight. Tove and Virginia run through a door, Ling Yi follows Olek, Ramiro pursues Ángel. But we just see Jérôme and Clémence facing down a monstrous wave of the crystals and then they run around a corner perfectly fine. There's a reason we did not see their escape. Bo and Jantje do not fuck around. This wasn't a cut scene.

I think that these characters are the ones with a deeper tie to the overarching mythology, even if they are not aware of it in the simulation at the time. The question then becomes who knows what, and who has loyalty to who? Is Virginia the secret main antagonist of the series, and is Olek potentially connected to her? Do Ramiro and Ángel have varying levels of knowledge and differing loyalties which is why there is a tension between them in the beginning of the series? Clémence, girl, what do you know and was that really your envelope at the end of the show?

I don't think all of these characters were secret bad guys. I don't even necessarily think this theory is 100% the direction they were going in. But there was a choice made to hold these backstories back until season two (RIP) and it feels like, based on what little we know and what we can draw from season one, there was a specific reason to do so. So now, let's just bully netflix into changing their damn mind because I too would like to know for sure.

#1899 #virginia wilson #olek 1899 #ramiro 1899 #ángel 1899 #clémence 1899 #sebastian 1899 #where are the last names?????

[suddenly-frankenstein]

two sad miserable boat media men are talking about some shit in their lives :(

they're besties btw

#edward little #the terror #the terror amc #1899 netflix #sebastian 1899 #i love them i wanna put them in a jar and shake (affectionate)

[niku30]

Guys being dudes am I right

- based on a photo shared by the cast of 1899

#1899 fan art #1899 #1899 memes #Sebastian 1899 #Franz 1899 #1899 Netflix #Tino Mewes #niku30 #digital art

[murmel-malt]

I promise I am completely normal about the characters in 1899. Especially the german crew. Absolutely normal.

#my art #1899 netflix #1899 fanart #1899 fan art #1899 series #1899 sebastian #1899 #sebastian 1899

[cefonteyn]

I'm not saying anything.......I'm just talking......

While I'm talking, might as well point out that Sebastian doesn't look angry but confused at Maura's reaction, and the way she begs him to bring Eyk back. It's like he's surprised she's so moved. Combined with the way she jumps back when she sees Eyk on the spaceship, I suspect Maura and Eyk are not on good terms in the real world.

#1899 spoilers #1899 netflix #1899 #maura x eyk #eyk x moira #clemence x jerome #jerome x clemence #sebastian 1899

[exoticlittlebird]

more rewatch thoughts: if i could have just one plot question answered by the showrunners, i’ve got to know whether or not the prometheus appearing and sending a signal out for help was supposed to be part of the simulation or not. because if it’s not… then what the fuck is sebastian thinking this whole time?? and what was the repeating simulation supposed to be?? because if there was never supposed to be a mysterious reappearing boat that lured the captain to change course and the sim is just supposed to be 8 days of everyone dealing with their inner demons, then this is a bonkers turn of events that came with zero warning.

but what i think is even crazier is if it is all part of the simulation plan (and daniel simply placed himself and elliot into the code of the ship knowing it would already be there) then sebastian is just… an incredible actor??? not tino mewes the real actor, but sebastian, first mate of the kerberos, is giving the goddamn performance of a lifetime pretending he has no idea what’s going on and being super against exploring this spooky ghost ship and i think that’s amazing

#and for probably like the 100th time??? #give that man a damn oscar #i can’t decide which way i’d rather it go #both options are bananas #1899 #1899 meta #sebastian 1899

[nickbn26]

Sebastian e Daniel toda a vez vendo o ciclo se repetir não importa quantas simulações:

#1899 netflix #eyk x maura #daniel solace #sebastian 1899 #eyk larsen #maura franklin #daniel 1899 #1899 meme #?? #Eu tô assistindo novamente

[anxiouspotatorants]

Here’s my current messy top 4 for who could be Ciaran as of January 2023 (let me live in my denial of the show getting cancelled a little longer please) (also spoilery discussion obviously):

1. Maura If the writers want Ciaran’s identity to be a plot twist reveal than Maura feels like the most thematically correct one. She could’ve been behind it all, fueled by wanting to keep some version of Elliot alive, and in the process developed a god-complex or taken such drastic measures that she felt the need to separate herself into parts so that the Maura we meet in the simulations would be living guilt free. Yes, she went through psychological and physical torture on loop in the 1899 simulation, but at least she wasn’t living with the knowledge of her son’s death and everything she’d done in order to prevent it. It might also explain some of Henry’s complete disdain for her (though I suspect he was never a loving dad to begin with). Daniel’s relationship to Maura and how he warns her about Ciaran could mean they are separate people, but it could also mean he is trying to help one side of the same person win against the other.

2. Elliot I saw somewhere that “Ciaran” allegedly means “little dark haired one”, so that could very well point to Elliot. I’m not sure how Maura would have mixed up her son with a brother though, nor what that would mean for whether or not Elliot is alive. At the same time, Maura’s complete faith in Ciaran and wish to find him and know what happened to him could actually be a projection of her love for and wish to be with Elliot. But this one is a little too muddy for me to truly believe in.

3. Sebastian I’m not so sure Sebastian makes any sense as Ciaran. It’s rather that he makes more sense to me than anyone else on the Kerberos. Daniel seems like a non-starter because he’s distrustful of Ciaran. Eyk would be an interesting and thematically strong choice, but him being Ciaran doesn’t actually make sense. And I don’t think we learn enough about the other passengers or what they could mean to Maura for any of them to be Ciaran. But Sebastian might. Being in kahoots with Henry and being German do take away points for his likelyhood, but it could be that Ciaran made a digital copy of himself that he put in the simulation to keep tabs on Henry and Maura’s progress.

4. Ciaran is just Ciaran To be honest I’m kind of rooting for this one. It’s very obvious to assume in a puzzle box show that we’ve already met Ciaran or some version of him, but I think the real fun challenge would be having Ciaran be his own character and managing to get the audience invested in someone new. Like, being introduced to Ciaran at the end of season 2 or start of season 3 and learning his motivations and goals and what his emotional relationship is to not just Maura but anyone else and actually getting invested in him as either a villain, antihero or hero could be really cool if Jantje, Bo and co managed to pull it off.

#yes I just referred to future seasons as if they're going to happen #I'm manifesting #I can't wait for future seasons or some form of continuation of this show to smack me in the face #with how wrong I've been about the Ciaran question #1899 spoilers #1899 #1899 netflix #ciaran singleton #maura franklin #elliot 1899 #sebastian 1899 #1899 theories #my theories

[sylviamarsh]

1899: a commentary

#1899 #1899edit #1899 spoilers #maura franklin #eyk larsen #daniel solace #virginia wilson #ramiro 1899 #angel 1899 #sebastian 1899 #tove 1899 #wilhelm 1899 #eugen 1899 #landon 1899 #periodedit #netflixedit #scifiedit #horroredit #edit #I love everyone (trapped) in this (doomed) bar #special s/o to eugen. pull yourself together & do your job but I can't fault your instincts

[life-love-geekculture]

There is nothing better than watching Sebastian’s face on rewatch of episode 1 of 1899. That is the face of a man who would like better decision making from his captain please.

#1899 #1899 spoilers #sebastian 1899

[fatherramiro]

tagged by the lovely @tortoisesshells to share an oldie but a goodie in terms of fic (so anything written before a week ago)

im going to share.... between the devil and the deep blue sea, which despite not being a ramiroángel fic is probably the 1899 fic im proudest of writing? it was a gift for my beloved @dragneto in last year's rare male slash exchange!

im tagging anyone who'd be interested in doing this!

#1899 #eyk larsen #sebastian 1899

[huntseric]

Art Summary

#digital art #digital illustration #art summary 2023 #art summary #ocs #odysseus #sailors #spiderverse #spidersona #1899 sebastian #epic the musical