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yournextflame · 2 years

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Does the Greater Will exist?

One of the most interesting aspectcs of the Elden Ring worldbuilding is a blend between fantasy and science. Miyazaki already played with the concepts of enthropy and light is time in Dark Souls. Elden Ring is even less subtle: gravity is a category of sorcery, characters are named after paleontological eras, Fundamentalism operates via mathematical principles, DNA helix is a recurring motif in the various designs; this game is dangerously close of becoming a full-blown mix of magic and sci-fi, although it never crosses the line. It's especially intriguing that the Greater Will, the mysterious force, which is usually viewed as an eldrich/abrahamic god by the players, isn't what it seems on the first sight and probably doesn't exist as an actual deity. In fact, all known actions of the Greater Will sound like a mythological retelling of existing scientific concepts and theories.

Let's start with a genesis myth narrated by Hyetta:

All got separated from the great one thing. Separated, birthed and given a soul. But that was a mistake of the Great Will [JP]

The Big Bang hypothesis states that all of the current and past matter in the Universe came into existence at the same time, roughly 13.8 billion years ago. At this time, all matter was compacted into a very small particle with infinite density and intense heat called a Singularity. Suddenly, the Singularity began expanding, and the universe as we know it began.

Description of the Elden Stars, the oldest known incantation in history:

It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.

Ever since the discovery of organic molecules in a meteorite that landed in Australia about half a century ago, scientists have been tantalized by the theory, which suggests that life is originated in space, in spatial ices, and continuously distributed to the planets by comets and meteorites.

[Elden Stars icon looks like DNA helix]

Description of Cinquedea dagger contains cut content, but I'm still counting on it because the symbol of intellegence portrayed as a slab of gold.

The design celebrates a beast's five fingers, symbolic of the intelligence once granted upon their kind [cut content from version 1.0] by the Greater Will. Hands were a fundamental ingredient to start making tools. The process of making tools might have also helped the evolution of other human assets such as memory, long-term planning, or social organization.

All 2(3) lnown actions of the Greater Will are tied to the scientific concepts: Big Bang hypothesis, theory that organic molecules originated in space and were distributed to the Earth via meteorites, and evoltion. Usually "the Greater Will" mentioned in the mythological interpretation of events that don't need to involve any creator deity at all to happen.

Religion is one of the form of the psychological adaptations - tendency to see a human-like agency behind unknown mysterious events, ancient Greeks interpreted thunder as a wrath of Zeus, maori believed that earthquakes were Ruamoko's movements inside the Mother Earth's body, Shinto has thousands and thousands kami - elements of the landscape, forces of nature, or beings and the qualities that these beings express.

Notably, there's nothing about the Greater Will that's particularly tied to the religion, especially Golden Order, the same people, who are calling Marika a god, never refer GW as such, it doesn't have churches, talismans or idols, at best there are Two Fingers - pathetic outcasts on the edge of Golden Order.

However, there is an interesting quote from the description of Nox set, which recasts the Greater Will from a neutral force of nature into a petty, vengeful deity... or not?

In ancient times, the Nox felt the wrath of the Greater Will. They were destroyed and escaped deep beneath the earth [JP]

English descriptions says that Nox were banished, implying that the Greater Will was directly involved into the exile of Nox. But Japanese wording is different: something happened on the surface of the Lands Between that forced Nox to escape underground.

My theory is that "the wrath of the Greater Will" is meteor shower.

This talisman represents the lost black moon. The moon of Nokstella was the guide of countless stars/Said to be a fragment of the black moon that once hung above the Eternal City

Consider this: Nox black moon was destroyed and the fragments of it rained on the Lands Between, causing a series of catastrophic events on the surface, which forced Nox to seek the shelter underground. It is unclear what happened with the black moon, but knowing the fact that Nox killed a god (the shape of Fingerslayer Blade is almost identical to the Sacred Relic sword) and a strong connection between Nox/Carian royalty and moons, I suspect that black moon was a collateral damage of the Eternal Cities downfall. I will give more meat to this theory in my post about Nox culture, there are some interesting info hidden in Japanese (滅び), but my point is that people of the Lands Between have a habit to interpret a major historical changes and natural disasters as the "will" of the Greater Will.

But I wouldn't go full on Nietzsche "the god is dead" on GW. The outer gods are even simplier by nature and they are sctricly bounded to their metaphysical concepts, but they exist. They can be sealed and wounded, GW can be harmed too (Fingerslayer Blade description), but I doubt that they have an actual anthropomorphic features, motivations and behaviors. Thus, the same goes for the Greater Will, even if it actually exists, it's probably functions like described in this quote: it creates for the sake's of creation, evolves things and gives life its fullest brilliance:

The universe, equipped with nothing but the materials and the power of creation, continues to create: something of this, something of that. It cannot control what it creates and it cannot, it seems, be controlled by its creations (though a few might deceive themselves otherwise). Those who curse the workings of the universe curse that which is deaf. Those who strike out at those workings fight that which is inviolate. Those who shake their fists, shake their fists at blind stars (Michael John Moorcock)

[yes, yes, I like this quote]

Okay, but the Greater Will has vassals. Wouldn't it imply some form of hierarchy and control? Well, one of its vassals is the Elden Beast, an alternate form of the Elden Ring, which can be changed and modified by human hands. The Elden Beast is incredibly passive and demonstrates a very particular reluctancy towards fighting, hence it spends more time swimming away from Tarnished than attacking. There is a theory based on certain animation that it crucified Marika, but considering that Elden Ring, in fact, is a living being, it was a self-defence.

Although it's not mentioned anywhere, I hightly doubt that golden hallucigenia had any involvement in political climate of Marika's empire. But we have an example of the opposite, when the other known vassals of the Greater Will - Two Fingers, were used for the personal gains of the local rulers.

The unreability of Two Fingers is mentioned a lot on game, from Gideon to Patches, many characters are pointing that GW vassals don't fucntion properly. Their "words" are questionable from the start, while intro says that the Greater Will abandoned the Lands Between a long time ago, Two Fingers in the illusory Roundtable Hold created by Marika (we know that she chained Hewg here) are claiming that it's still active.

It's getting worse with a time, Confessors lore suggests that Two Fingers believe the the guidance of the grace is controlled by GW, but from melina's echoes we can learn that the grace belongs to Marika.

Finally, in the late game it is revealed that for a real contact with GW - if there is any, Fingers with their dial-up connection need thousands and thousands moons.

There is a very noticeable information vacuum in the game, all Two Fingers are dead (with two suspicious exceptions), all Finger maidens are dead in the end too, the lack of knowledges about what's going on is so bad that one of the most valuable pieces of information we are recieving from... Three Fingers and their insane maiden.

But why does this vacuum exist?

One of the most prominent examples of Two Fingers decieving Tarnished is the main quest, in which Tarnished supposed to become consort of Marika:

Now, seek the Erdtree, and an audience with Queen Marika. To become Elden Lord, and restore the Golden Order. But Two Fingers at the Roundtable are never mentioning existence of the other candidates to the godhood, which their crew picked up before the Shattering:

the Age of Queen Marika ends, a precious Empyrean is born to become God so they can establish a new Order [JP] Of the demigods, only I, Miquella, and Malenia could claim that title. Each of us was chosen by our own Two Fingers, as a candidate to succeed Queen Marika, to become the new god of the coming age. [oh the irony, in the end of her quest Ranni actually fulfills the task of Two Fingers]

This whole situation makes me think that Two Fingers system is barely functional and basically repurposed to frame the local rulers as avatars of higher cosmic powers, who are doing what their are doing on the behalf of the greater... will.

The concept of divine right of kings stems from a specific metaphysical framework in which a monarch is, before birth, pre-ordained to inherit the crown. According to this theory of political legitimacy, the subjects of the crown have actively (and not merely passively) turned over the metaphysical selection of the king's soul – which will inhabit the body and rule them – to God.

Basically, almost every royal dynasty in the world pretended that they are descendants of the gods or were appointed by the gods to their position. Just one of many examples:

The Mandate of Heaven, the "Heaven's will" is a Chinese political philosophy that was used in ancient and imperial China to legitimize the rule of the King or Emperor of China. According to this doctrine, heaven (天, Tian) – which embodies the natural order and will of the universe – bestows the mandate on a just ruler of China, the "Son of Heaven".

This doctrine sounds very familiar, right?

In the Elden Ring the concept of Divine Rights is partially legitimized in form of Empyreans chosen by Fingers. I said "partially" because Empyreans are candidates to the godhood, not gods. There is a quote common misconception born from straightforward and surface-level of reading Ranni's questline that Empyreans are forced into godhood, and some of them, like Marika, were directly approached by the Greater Will to become the vessels of the Elden Ring.

It doesn't help that Golden Order deliberately erased existence of the other forms of worships, and this propaganda is so convincing that it affects even the playerbase. Ironically, the same people, who hate the Golden Order and everything associated with it, continue to believe that there are no gods but Marika with the blind fanatism of brother Corhyn, even though the plot shows that the system of gods and their lords was estabilished a long, long time ago.

[not only Farum Azula has the Elden Ring of the older Order, but it also shows it together with Twinbird carving, which depicts a mother of Deathbirds, envoys of an outer god] This again, unlike the Greater Will and the outer gods, who existed and coexisted for millenias, gods like Marika are supposed to be changed every age by Two Fingers. But Golden Order was founded on principle that Marika was one and only god; and even though this lie is constantly uncovered in the game in different ways - Radagon exists, other Empyreans exist, previous vessels of the Elden Ring existed; the imagery of the tragic queen, who was forcibly made into eternal slave by the evil god and should be saved by the greatest hero of the Lands Between, is so appealing that people would rather argue that Placidusax title of the Elden Lord is a developers mistake than accept that the queen is the alien pest herself. The face of the Numen, supposed descendants of denizens of another world The portrayal of the outer gods and the Greater Will is very interesting, the first group is always vilified because they are outsiders to the Order, this alienation translates through the screen as well. Similar thing happened with the Greater Will, which is blamed for the faults of the Golden Order, although it is possible that it doesn't even exist as an actual entity, let alone as something with human-like goals and interests.

#elden ring #lore theories #the greater will #outer gods #also imagine making 1hr long video explaining that something that is not called an outer god in game is not an outer god #but I think without dlc everything is cursed by that one video about greattree #do people believe that crusades began because some dude on the cloud asked for it?

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bob-money-artist-blog · 5 years

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MAORI COSMOGONY #basrelief on #canvas #ruamoko vide cos'era accaduto e percepì il dolore di suo padre e sua madre per la separazione, divenne una furia. Il terreno si aprì e Ruamoko gettò fango bollente ed enormi nubi di vapore fetido. Pieno di rabbia, Ruamoko inveì contro i fratelli per la loro scelleratezza, facendo scuotere la terra con la sua voce tonante. Poi fece eruttare fino a raggiungere il cielo i fuochi presenti nelle profondità terrestri per molti giorni, finché #papatuanuku non lo abbracciò dolcemente cantando, per far addormentare il figlio collerico. #maori #cosmogony #cosmogonia #arte #art #artinstagram #artcontemporain #artecollezionismo #artcollector #artdealer #artgallery #artgallerynyc #artgalleries #artgalery #artgalerie #bobmoney #christies #sothebys #philips #auction #auctionhouse (presso Studio Arte 3.0) https://www.instagram.com/p/BsnX5hinvDq/?utm_source=ig_tumblr_share&igshid=smc3xmhz5qcx

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avventure-per-un-anno · 4 years

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Christchurch

08.01.2020

Zu den Bildern der Sagenwelt der Maori gehört die Erklärung für die zahlreichen Erdbeben. Schuld daran sei ein ungeborenes Kind von Mutter Erde. Dieses eigenwillige und manchmal etwas unruhige Baby namens Ruamoko bewegt sich in der Gebärmutter unseres Planeten. Er ist der Gott der Erdbeben.

Ich habe heute heute einen ersten Ausflug in das Zentrum von Christchurch gemacht und habe im Quake City, dem Erdbeben-Museum, begonnen. Als allererstes wird in einem kurzen Animationsfilm Ruamoko vorgestellt, wie er Neuseeland zum Beben bringt.

Christchurch wurde zuletzt hintereinander von 2 größeren Erdbeben heimgesucht; am 04.09.2010 mit einer Stärke von 7, 1 und am 22.02.2011 mit einer Stärke von 6,3.

Wie sich das Erdbeben 2011 auswirkte, ist hier zu sehen:

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Und so ist das Stadtbild bis heute von Ruinen, Baulücken und Baustellen geprägt.

Da sich Neuseeland, aber v.a. auch Christchurch, zwischen der Australischen Kontinentalplatte und der Pazifischen Platte befindet, waren dies nicht die ersten - und leider nicht die letzten Erdbeben.

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the-ninja-legacy-whip · 2 months

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can you rank the guardians (including wojira and GD in book 2) from biggest to smallest

Well, back in 21-22, I had the idea for the Guardians to be able to change their shape and size at whim, but a) I could never figure out why this would be a thing they could do, and b) it never actually made it into a story, therefore it’s not ‘canon’. That being said, their sizes actually vary quite a bit as a result.

The Great Devourer is the biggest for, well, obvious reasons. If she didn’t have the destructive eating/growing thing (courtesy of biting Garmadon), she would’ve been equal in size to Genesis. But of course, she went from being smaller than them to utterly surpassing them.

Genesis/Wojira are next! They’re both about the same size, though they’re moreso long as opposed to being big, they still cut a rather imposing silhouette. They both drawf buildings and make people look like ants in return.

Next is technically Tawhiri. From just her head/body alone, she is the same size as Ruamoko, but her tentacles give her some extra length there. Nothing more terrifying than there being a big ol’ Lightning storm and then a giant flying octopus emerges from the clouds—

Then it’s Ruamoko! He’s pretty huge, being able to hold Cole in the palm of his hand for example, and able to catch a falling building (though that’s mostly due to his crazy strength anyway), but he’s not the size of a skyscraper or anything. As mentioned in the GD fight, he’s just a bit bigger than Eirlys and Vulcanell combined.

Next is Vulcanell, who is essentially the size of a regular lion, if not somewhat bigger. Large enough to hold/carry a few people on his back, small enough for fiery cuddles with a Fire Master.

Eirlys is also only a little bigger than the average wolf (which are actually already pretty big when it comes to potentially dangerous animals). Still imposing despite the relatively smaller stature compared to her fellow Guardians, but not above getting pets and treats from Zane (and Cole) on occasion snksnksnk.

Last is Epsilon, who for a good chunk of the story is about as big as the GD was pre-Garmadon bite. During the NRG Arc she starts to reach the size of a Boa Constrictor, and one day if she is cared for and treated well, she just might reach Genesis’ size as a proper Guardian, as her mother should have before her.

#sorry for not using absolute measurements #I like to keep a certain degree of mental variance when envisioning these things #info tag #great Devourer #Genesis #Wojira #Ruamoko #tawhiri #vulcanell #eirlys #epsilon

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the-ninja-legacy-whip · 2 months

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What are each of the ninja's relationship to their respective guardian? Do they ever make time to go visit their guardians? Will they be significant in the focus seasons of their respective ninja, or the focus seasons of their home realm?

They do make time to visit their Guardians when they can, although traveling all the way to the farthest corners of the world can be a tad inconvenient so it’s not terribly often. They also know that they can visit Vulcanell anytime (as he is the closest to the city, until Genesis is on the scene again) who can then summon the others, but they try to save that for extreme emergencies only.

I can promise they’ll definitely be prominent in the Ninjas’ focus seasons during the NRG Arc (Seasons 11-15), but beyond that I’ll include them if I can make it make sense! (We won’t be seeing much of them in S2 as they’re still recovering from S1, but stay tuned!)

As for the relationships themselves:

Zane never feels compelled to visit Eirlys, though when she decides to make an appearance for him he’s certainly not going to turn it down, and will make the most of the time with her. She misses him a lot when they’re apart, but she’d never show it snksnksnk. She acts like a puppy around Zane (and Pixal, and Cole if she’s in a good mood), and everyone else she’s a stoic lone wolf snksnk

Cole also doesn’t go out of his way to see Ruamoko too often (probably because going to the Western Province requires going through West Haven), but when they do get the chance to reconnect he always feels guilty about not trying to do more. Ruamoko never takes it personally, as he too is something of a rolling stone, but he’s always proud to see Cole thrive, and is happy to support Cole’s friends when he can <3

Jay always wants to visit Tawhiri but he never gets around to it (similar to visiting his parents, ha). When he finally makes good on his promise to take Nya to the Floating Ruins though, Tawhiri does not take well to Nya’s presence and that kind of puts a rift between them and it hurts Jay’s feelings. They reconcile during Skybound, though…but the same can’t be said for the other ninja (as they’re always going to be terrified of her temper gkdnslfdj)

Kai lucks out with Vulcanell, due to his close proximity and the amount of opportunities they’ve already had to fight side by side together. Vulcanell is a bit intimidating towards everyone else, but turns into a softie around Kai. Sometimes he sneaks out when he’s feeling particularly bad to go vent to Vulcan (and sometimes he does the same for Nya—she’s pretty close with Vulcan too).

If Wojira wasn’t, well, Wojira, I imagine she and Nya would be pretty close. …Though now I want an AU where Wojira is more benevolent and wasn’t forced to sleep through the terraforming of her realm and had the chance to connect with masters of her elements—

Lloyd also lucks out—when Genesis returns, he’s always patrolling the Central Province via the skies (a la the dragons in Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom) and is quick to come when there’s a drastic crisis (or simply if Lloyd calls him). There’s a strong bond of respect between them, similiar to Lloyd and the GD, but not quite a genuine friendship until some more time passes.

Epsilon basically becomes Lloyd’s pet, so, y’know. He might have a favorite without even trying—

#info tag #eirlys #ruamoko #tawhiri #vulcanell #wojira #genesis #epsilon #legacyverse

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the-ninja-legacy-whip · 2 months

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idk if this has been asked before but what do the guardians think of the ninja's significant others?

feel free to not answer this if these are spoilers!!

Vulcanell is extremely wary of Skylor at first when Kai brings her around (and is like a territorial yet protective cat around Kai as a result) but she manages to get him to warm up to her eventually (I would hope so, since he’s made of fire—ba dum tiss)

Ruamoko already approves of Jesse if the Great Devourer fight is anything to go by snksnknsk, but otherwise he doesn’t have any strong feelings on Cole’s love life so long as Cole is happy

…Tawhiri, meanwhile, is of the opinion that Jay should be with the weather girl (Sunni), buuuuut that’s neither here or there (it’s because Nya reminds her a lot of herself, and Tawhiri takes that as a personal challenge lmao)

Eirlys adores Pixal the moment Zane brings her to meet her. She’s the opposite of Tawhiri—she appreciates how similar in temperament Pixal is to her, and they form something of a kinship because of it. (Plus she and Pixal both like messing with Kai, so, instant friendship there)

Wojira doesn’t get much time to form an opinion on Jay as a person, buuuut given the fact that Jay goes psycho-mode fighting against her, I can’t imagine her thoughts would be anything favorable fkfksks

Genesis doesn’t know what to think of Harumi. It’s pity there, more than anything else though. But he adheres to Lloyd’s desires/feelings, whatever they may be at whatever moment in time.

…Epsilon, on the other hand, loves Harumi and no one can figure out why.

(Brad in the back: It’s cuz they’re both SNAKES

Lloyd: Brad please—

Brad: YOU KNOW IM RIGHT)

#info tag #guardians #Vulcanell #Ruamoko #Tawhiri #Eirlys #Wojira #Genesis #Epsilon #legacyverse

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i loved the explanation thank you but now im just imagining the scene where lloyd has to ring the bell for everyone to power up and it just doesnt work cuz they are in the wrong spots and they just start arguing

"All right, Lloyd. This is it." Zane declares, facing the Green Ninja with a note of seriousness. "It is time."

Lloyd nods once, turning his sights onto to the bell in the middle of the room, designed to—quite literally—ring in his Destiny. He takes a breath to steady himself, clenches his fists, and makes a run for the nearest pillar. With quick steps, he races up the length of it, pushing off at the peak of his momentum. His head dives downwards as he sinks into a backflip, bringing his foot up and over to collide directly into the side of that giant bell.

A loud, droning gong rings out into the Temple of Life. Lloyd alights back on the ground as the Core Four brace themselves, awash with the sound and the anticipation of being plunged straight into a prophecy.

The ringing of the bell fades. The silence becomes suffocating.

A great resounding amount of nothing happens.

...The five stand in position awkwardly for a good two minutes holding their breath, but when nothing shakes or glows or scream-worthy happens, Lloyd finally can't take it anymore and throws his arms up.

"Wait, what—?!"

"Did we not do as the prophecy instructed?" Zane wonders, equally perplexed. Kai glances around with a huff, only for his shoulders to tense when he spots the glaring problem.

"...oh, you idiots," Kai calls from the bottom of the room, pointing between Jay and Cole. Jay immediately snaps on the defensive.

"Excuse me?! Why are we the idiots?!"

Kai gestures at the larger-than-life painting of the Elemental Compass on the floor like it's the most obvious thing in the world (and it is).

"You guys are in the wrong places! Cole, you're literally on the blue part!"

"....for Creation's sake—" Lloyd starts to groan as Cole blinks and sheepishly lifts up his foot, revealing Tawhiri's insignia hiding beneath. Similarly, Jay coughs, shuffling backwards and finding Ruamoko lurking below.

"Ahahahaha, wow, how did that happen?!"

"It appears you two have gotten West and East mixed up," Zane points out. "...although I cannot comprehend how you failed to notice the incorrect insignias regardless."

"Well you two could've said something beforehand! How were we just gonna instinctively know which way North was???" Cole points accusingly at Kai and Zane.

"Nevermind the fact Zane would be at North and I would be at South!" Kai shakes an annoyed fist. "You could've at least noticed the fact that you weren't standing on your color!"

Cole gasps in offense, recoiling backwards. "You can't call me out on that! I'm a little bit colorblind! I have a pass!"

Kai's eye twitches. "Your color is BLACK! There's no color to be blind to—!"

"And that provides no excuse for Jay, unless he is just blind overall," Zane coughs, cuing Jay to make a high-pitched whining noise.

"W-Well, maybe we're the ones in the right places, and it's you and Kai that need to swap! Or the Compass is just facing the wrong way! How about that?"

Zane gives Jay a blank look. "Do you really think the FSM would have painted his own design incorrectly?!"

"This was nearly impossible to mess up, and yet you still managed to do so in the only way possible!" Kai exclaims. "Amazing!"

"Okay, I am feeling PERSONALLY attacked right now, and I will not stand for it—" Cole huffs.

"WILL YOU GUYS JUST GET IN THE RIGHT SPOTS?!?!" Lloyd hollers, his voice echoing in the near-empty room harder than the bell ever could. Jay screams, Cole flinches, and Kai and Zane just gawk, but all four of them whimper at the glow emanating in Lloyd's eyes. There's no room for protest.

Jay and Cole do a silent shuffle of shame as they scuttle into what is hopefully the correct spots. Lloyd inhales once again, folding his hands in front of him to perform a small prayer of apology to his grandfather who is surely rolling in his grave, wherever that may be.

Either way, it's probably a better place than here.

#idiots. every one of them.#ninjago #the lego ninjago movie #ninjago fanfiction #legacyverse #the ninja legacy whip #fic tag #fics of mine #works of mine #kai smith #jay walker #zane julien #lloyd garmadon #cole brookstone

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Behold...the Elemental Compass! Everything my Legacyverse lore precariously rests upon until the Crystalized season prolly blows it out of the water!

C’mon, it’s me, you knew this part was coming! There are some very light spoilers for, well, a couple of things, so if you’d rather wait to learn things naturally in The Ninja Legacy Whip, turn back now! Otherwise...I guess you’re getting a little sneak peak ahead of time! But really, I just needed all this info in one place lol OKAY HERE WE GO

Backstory:

Long ago, before time had a name (yet), the FSM journeyed across the other realms in search of a new home where he could live in balance. During his travels, he encountered four magnificent beasts, each possessing a Core Element. From Chima, Ruamoko, the Earth Gorilla. From the Never-Realm, Eirlys, the Wolf of Ice. From Djinnjago, Tawhiri, the Lightning Octopus. From the Realm of Madness, Vulcanell, the Golden Lion of Fire. Recognizing the FSM’s potential, these creatures taught him how command each respective element, enhancing his ability to create (and destroy).

Later on, he happens upon the Realm of the Endless Sea and all its infinite potential (after dealing with a whole Wojira situation), and decides it is perfect for becoming his new home. The FSM ascends up the only land above water in the entire realm, that being the Golden Peaks. From there, he uses his newfound gifts to forge the Four Golden Weapons, allowing him to harness the elements and the essences of life to build a new world, eventually to be known as Ninjago. He then brought to life creatures in his own unique image, eventually to be known as humans, and attempted to pass on his messages of inner balance...which had worked, for a time.

While the FSM had found balance within himself, there was none throughout the realms who could match his power (even if he did use it with benevolent intentions). Due to the presence of this imbalance, the cosmos conjured up something that would keep the FSM in check: that being the Overlord, who began launching attacks on Ninjago almost immediately. Realizing that his people were heavily underprepared for the unexpected threat, the FSM discretely traveled back home to obtain help, and found it in the form of a Dragon named Genesis.

Genesis did their best to protect all the people of Ninjago, but the Overlord’s might was too great, so the FSM used everything in his power to seal the Overlord on half of the island. Genesis held the Overlord in place as this occurred, resulting in them being trapped on the Dark Island as well. The FSM then split Ninjago in two and sank the dark half into the Endless Sea, where the Overlord would continue to persist, but without threatening the people left on the Light Island. This incident also resulted in the creation of the Element of Time, and could be called “Where Time Got Its Name”, or, “When Time Began”.

Now understanding how weak the people were in comparison to him, the FSM took several measures: firstly, bringing in his four creature friends from other Realms to help watch over the island with him. He gave Eirlys jurisdiction of the Northern Province, Tawhiri the Eastern Province, Vulcanell the South, and Ruamoko the West. Second, he established the Monastery of Spinjitzu to train people in his ways, giving them methods to protect themselves from other unforeseen threats. Third, he began experimenting with the Elements, combining them in various forms, until he came to discover and master twelve of the Derivative Elements. And then, by combining all four Core Elements, he discovered the most powerful element of all: the Green Element.

Not wanting to keep all that power for himself, especially now that he possessed the Green Element, the FSM sought out sixteen individuals encompassing the traits of the Elements themselves, and passed his knowledge off to them, forging the First Generation of the Elemental Alliance. These individuals were given the task of assisting the FSM in protecting the people, and beginning the grand tradition of Elemental Inheritance for centuries to come.

However, there were still four other Elements that the FSM had never come to personally master: Time, Water, Wind, and Amber. These Elements were passed on independent of the Elemental Alliance (although the FSM manages to persuade a few of the later inheritors to his cause). These elements were still derived from the Core Four at their heart, albeit faintly. The FSM devised a mechanism to keep track of all these connections, and to pass on the knowledge to generations long in the future.

The four Outlier Elements received symbols relating to how the FSM discovered them*; the Derivative Elements received symbols based on the Element itself; the Green Element received the symbol of Genesis to honor the dragon’s life-altering sacrifice...and, to honor the Guardians that had gifted him this knowledge in the first place, the FSM made the symbols of Earth, Fire, Ice, and Lightning match those of the Guardians he’d learned them from.

And that...is how the completed Elemental Compass was born.

(*Amber’s symbol is subject to change depending on what Skylor tidbits we get in the Crystalized season)

General Info:

The Elemental Compass is divided into three tiers: the center piece, the inner ring, and the outer circle. The center represents the Green Element, as it is compromised of the other twenty elements. Directly derived from the Green Element are the Four Core Elements: Earth, Fire, Ice, and Lightning.

They make up the inner ring, and are the Core Elements because they can come together as one to be equivalent to Green, or divide further into four Derivative Elements each. The outer ring represents these Derivative Elements, each of those directly associated with (at least) one Core Element.

When combined, the sixteen Derivative Elements have equivalent might to the Core Four...which is also equivalent to the Green Element all by itself. However, the Derivative Elements have never been successfully combined in such a way, due to certain Masters of the Outlier Elements being cut off from the compass.

Base Compass:

The Base Compass encompasses only the five main elements, and with this, you don’t actually need any of the other versions. This is the most common and easily understood version of the compass—your average individual can find this version used on maps, signs, and other forms of public information. After Wu removed all Elemental info from the world, the public generally just believes this compass reflects the Provinces and their rumored Guardian (which, while there is a kernel of truth there, they’re missing so much of the full story).

The Green Element is comprised of its four derivatives: Fire, Earth, Ice, and Lightning. While the Green Element can take on any attributes of the Core Four at will, the Core Four cannot utilize the Green Element unless in harmony with one another (via the Tornado of Creation).

Fun fact, this is also the compass that exists on the floor of the Temple of Light!

(...there’s actually another alternative for this specific version of the compass as well, but that’s not going to make any sense until Season 5, so we’re not gonna talk about it! :3)

Consecutive Compass:

This version is called the Consecutive Compass because it includes all the Elements that the FSM personally mastered, all just from learning and understanding the Core Four Elements. Each Derivative Element exists by combining a dominant Core Element with a bit of another Core Element. For example, adding a pinch of Fire to dominant Lightning will give you the Element of Speed, buuuut adding a pinch of Lightning to dominant Fire will give you the Element of Light (don’t think too hard about it just roll with it). There is one Derivative Element for each potential combination in this manner.

Earth Sector Derivatives:

Posion (Inheritor Color: Lime): Dominant Earth + Fire; there are many hazardous contaminants out in the Earth + breathing in fire smoke can be noxious.

Nature (Inheritor Color: Brown): Dominant Earth + Lightning; both are generally seen as forces of nature

Metal (Inheritor Color: Gunmetal): Dominant Earth + Ice; Ice is water taken solid form, Metal is the same way for Earth (...?)

Ice Sector Derivatives:

Gravity (Inheritor Color: Maroon): Dominant Ice + Earth; gravity keeps us chained to the Earth and Ice...floats? (Listen there’s a reason I want to switch this with Nature—)

Form (Inheritor Color: Violet): Dominant Ice + Fire; both Ice and Fire can take various shapes, sizes, and forms in their existence

Mind (Inheritor Color: Tan): Dominant Ice + Lightning; Ice already had the Elemental Ability of seeing the future, and someone once said Mind could be related to Lightning due to electrical impulses and neurons or whatever...so, here we are!

Lightning Sector Derivatives:

Sound (Inheritor Color: Teal): Dominant Lightning + Ice; ...not gonna lie, this one kinda got left over, but I connected it to Lightning due to, y’know, thunder

Surprise (Inheritor Color: Pink/Fuchsia): Dominant Lightning + Earth; for similar reasons as Nature, both elements have a capacity for being unpredictable

Speed (Inheritor Color: Alabaster): Dominant Lightning + Fire; both Fire and Lightning are associated with being fast

Fire Sector Derivatives:

Light (Inheritor Color: Yellow): Dominant Fire + Lightning; again, both Fire and Lightning are known for being sources of Light

Smoke (Inheritor Color: Gray): Dominant Fire + Ice; Ice...gives off a steam...when it is melted...by Fire...?

Shadow (Inheritor Color: Lavender): Dominant Fire + Earth; Fire casts shadows on the GROUND! ...thank god this is the last one...

...anyway, fun fact, this is the compass that Master Chen uses in his Anacondrai ritual come Season 4! This is (partly) why he did not need every single Element in existence present to complete his spell; he just needed all of the ones that are directly connected to the Green Element.

Completed Compass:

And finally, the Completed Compass! Called that obviously because it’s complete (As far as we know) and includes the Outlier Elements! The Outliers are technically Derivative Elements as well, due to being connected to a Core Element, but their sources originate from places other than the Green Element, and persist outside of the FSM’s intervention.

Ice Outlier—Water (Inheritor Color: Cyan): The Element of Water is connected to Ice, as a practiced Master is able to manipulate frozen water. While its speculated to have originated from Wave Wojira, who used the element to create the Realm of the Endless Sea in the first place, the first Elemental Master of Water was a Merlopian. This Element happens to be the easiest one to enter NRG Mode with, but also with the highest risk of becoming trapped within it.

The jewels around its sector are representative of the Wave Amulet.

This element has not been cut from the Elemental Compass.

Lightning Outlier—Wind (Inheritor Color: Jade): The Element of Wind is connected to Lightning, as both thrive in the thick of a storm, and a Master of Lightning has demonstrated to have utilized wind abilities. This element has also been speculated to originate from Storm Wojira, hence its symbol being reminiscent of Wojira’s head.

The jewels around its sector are representative of the Storm Amulet.

This element is currently cut from the Elemental Compass, as its last Master died without letting it inherit to another person, or willingly giving it up to another individual. (This is also what almost happened to the Element of Ice)

Fire Outlier—Amber (Inheritor Color: Orange/Amber): The Element of Amber is connected to Fire, due to being artificially forged. Amber’s origins are still somewhat shrouded in mystery, but the image of a phoenix was chosen due to the element’s constant ability to reinvent itself.

The jewels around its sector are reflective of the Essences of Creation and Destruction; as one cannot persist without the other, Amber cannot absorb others if there is no one to absorb. While its potential is incredible, its opportunities for use are also limited.

This element has not been cut from the Elemental Compass.

Earth Outlier—Time (Inheritor Color: Power Dependent): The Element of Time is connected to Earth because...that’s what was left lol. It originated when the FSM first freed the Light Island from the clutches of the Overlord, marking the first opportunity humanity was allowed to thrive as just itself.

The jewels around its sector are representative of the fact Time has experienced an Elemental Split, meaning that its capabilities have been divided. The Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow jewels are all indicative of one divided aspect of Time. (Fun Fact: The Time Twins have heterochromia because of it!)

This element is cut from the Elemental Compass, as its last master(s) abused its powers, and was sealed off from being passed on by becoming trapped within Chronosteel.

(These four Elements, due to their rather...disruptive properties, have been ironically nicknamed the Four Core Elements of Destruction.)

This version of the compass is the one that was present in the catacombs of the Monastery of Spinjitzu, and can be found within a few pocket-sized versions of the compass (for anyone fortunate enough to happen upon one...)

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How do the Ninja’s love interests feel/opinion about their significant other’s guardian?

Vice Versa Question

Skylor loves Vulcanell, even if Vulcan is understandably wary about her first. Treats him like the pet cat she never had. Vulcan also acts a winglion whenever Kai casually suggests a ‘romantic evening ride’ along the coast. Or across the ocean. Either way, Skylor finds it incredibly amusing (and endearing)

Jesse knows Ruamoko is a friendly and (mostly) gentle giant, but it’s really, really hard not to be intimidated when you’re standing beside a giant stone-back gorilla with fists that can rip buildings and start earthquakes…and you are very small and easily breakable. But aside from a surprise accident of some kind, he does feel very safe with Ruamoko

It takes a while for Nya and Tawhiri to reach solid footing—again, there’s a rocky relationship there because the duo are similar in temperament and feel that *their* thoughts are the correct ones, especially if the other disagrees. They can put aside their differences long enough for Jay’s sake, but it takes some time before they have full trust in each other. Sunni, meanwhile, thinks Tawhiri is the most fascinating thing ever because weather-creating octopus?!?!?! Right up her alley.

If Eirlys could talk, she and Pixal would definitely be gossip buddies, or throw shade about others off on the side. Also similar in temperament, but not in a way that causes them to clash—rather, their shared perspective on things makes it easier to build trust with one another (which makes Zane happy to see his girls bonding ;w;)/ )

Jay: *sees Wojira* *breaks bottle over his head* ITS ON SIGHT

Harumi would be more impressed with Genesis if she didn’t meet them around the time Lloyd outs himself as the Green Ninja, soooo…yeah. She does have a small soft spot for lil Epsilon, irony being what it is (the daughter of the bane of your existence is just too adorable to overcome sometimes)

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So, finally, we’ve finally got some semblance of a map for Legacyverse Ninjago. It takes inspiration from like, every map iteration I could possibly find (the obvious iconic dragon-shaped one, the one from Shadow of Ronin, the Ninjago Movie’s map, etc.) buuut everything’s been shuffled a bit to fit my own purposes >:3 (the left side is a base map, the right side is how each Province compares to the others)

Take everything you know about Ninjago’s locations...and throw ‘em in a fire! (Also buckle up cuz it’s a long one)

General Info:

So after Time Began and the island of Ninjago was split in half, only the Light Island persisted, and with more unknown, unbalanced forces out there that not even the FSM could fend against all at once, the FSM called upon the help of the friends who taught him the Four Core Elements to help him watch over all corners of Ninjago, along with sending out members of the Elemental Alliance to watch over things. Each of those “corners” was divided off into a Province, with some of those Provinces being more populated, while others were much harder to inhabit due to the terrain. But, over time, people began to grow and adapt, and in this fine 21st Century, there’s a variety of people living all over the island!

Due to the variating wide-spread nature of Elemental Descendants, some places have specific cultures surrounding the Elements. This plays into the spoken languages as well. New-Form Ninjagon is the universal language in all regions (which is a blend between the symbols of Old-Form Ninjargon yet spoken similarly to English), but individual places have their own secondary languages as well. Any areas that aren’t explicitly labeled are either unexplored, uninhabited, disputed over which Province it fully belongs to and thus have no claimed name, or too uninteresting to qualify as a full landmark.

Northern Province-

Overview: The Northern Province encompasses the uppermost parts of Ninjago, consisting of mainly cold, snowy climates that range from dense forests to frigid fjords to frozen peaks. At the very crown of Ninjago in the Northern Ocean sits the Ice Fortress, where the North’s Guardian Eirlys once kept the Shuriken of Ice under tight wraps. Not a lot of people live in these parts, not going much farther than Birchwood and the outer Glacier Barrens, but if avoiding civilization is your goal, then this is your place to go!

Guardian: Eirlys (The White Wolf) Common Elemental Descendants: Nature, Smoke, Sound, Mind, (Ice) Secondary Languages: Mongolian, Welsh, Dutch, Scottish Gaelic, Yupik

Birchwood Forest

Glacier Barrens

Hypnobrai Tomb

Frozen Wastelands

Ice Fortress

Shintaro (Shares with West Province)

Wailing Alps

Blind Man’s Eye

Western Province-

Overview: The Western Province consists of the mountainous and rugged regions to the island’s west. While harboring much less dangerous areas than the other Provinces (save for the Desert of Doom), and is the second-most populated Province, the harsh and unpredictable terrain still makes it difficult to settle outside of the region’s main cities. In the westernmost point sits the Caves of Despair, where Ruamoko primarily keeps to himself while guarding the Scythe of Quakes, until he is needed elsewhere.

Guardian: Ruamoko (Gorilla of the Quake) Common Elemental Descendants: Nature, Shadow, Metal, Gravity, (Earth) Secondary Languages: Somalian, Russian, Indonesian, Turkish, Hindi

Western Range

Caves of Despair

West Haven

Mountain of a Million Steps / Constrictai Tomb

Jamanakai Village

Wildwood

Blackwood Forest

Metalonia

Shintaro Mines / Heart of the Mountain

Desert of Doom

Echo Canyon

Glimwillow Woods

Holy City of Domu

Eastern Province-

Overview: Primarily consisting of either scorching desert or places constantly pestered by storms, the Eastern Province doesn’t have much in a way of population, but the space is used for several significant locations, such as an amusement park, a junk yard, a prison, and a external power station for Ninjago City. Within the Thunder Belt on the far east edge of the region sits the ruins of an ancient floating city, from within Tawhiri watches over the area with a...temperamental fist.

Guardian: Tawhiri (Octopus of the Tempest) Common Elemental Descendants: Nature, Mind, Sound, Speed, Light, Gravity, (Lightning) Secondary Languages: Arabic, Irish Gaelic, Latin, German,

Haunted Hill / Temple of Airjitzu

Sea of Sand

Mega Monster Amusement Park

Anacondrai Tomb

City of Ouroboros

Scrap N’ Junk Yard

Kyptarium Prison

Thunder Belt

Floating Ruins / Lightning Temple

Crashcourse / Scattered Canyon

Stiix

Dyer Island

Wind Farms Power Station

Southern Province-

Overview: More populated than the East and North but not quite as much as the West and Central, the Southern Province is mostly home to lands that are extremely fertile and rich with resources, due to being almost completely surrounded by water. But there’s also its share of places that could kill a man just by visiting them (such as Torchfire Mountain, the Toxic Bogs, or even the remains of Hono Mizu City). From a small, volcanic island just off the coast of Central’s Ninjago City, there sits not just a Shark Army Base, but also a Fire Temple, and within that temple the Golden Lion Vulcanell once kept the Sword of Fire safely guarded in his possession. Guardian: Vulcanell (The Golden Lion) Common Elemental Descendants: Smoke, Shadow, Poison, Light, Amber, (Fire) Secondary Languages: Mandarin, Japanese, Italian, Bengali, Thai

Ignacia

Coastal Village

Forest of Tranquility

Cemetery of Souls / Fangpyre Tomb

Volcanic Island / Fire Temple / Shark Army Base

Spirit Coves

Toxic Bogs/ Venomari Tomb

Torchfire Mountain Range

Hono Mizu (Northern Half)

Rainbow Valley / Village in the Valley

Central Province-

Overview: Due to housing the island’s capital and despite containing some of the deadliest areas of Ninjago, Central Province houses the majority of Ninjago’s population within Ninjago City alone. Traveling far beyond Central can be exceedingly difficult, as it requires going through either the west’s mountains, the east’s desert, the north’s canyons and cold, or the southern bays (unless you have a flying ship or magically whipped up mech). Not only do people not often travel in or out, but neither does information, meaning that even though some outer places have knowledge of the Elemental Compass (such as Metalonia, Stiix, Hono Mizu, etc), nearly everyone within Central does not...despite the ironic fact that a majority of the Elemental Masters live within the city. Central Province currently does not have a Guardian, and Master Wu has been doing his best to watch over it in the previous Guardians’ stead.

Guardian: Dragon Genesis / Great Devourer (Order of the Ouroboros) Common Elemental Descendants: Surprise, Nature, Smoke, Shadow, Form Secondary Languages: Old-Form Ninjargon, English, French, Portugese

Mountain of Impossible Height / Monastery of Spinjitzu

Ninjago City

Darkley's Boarding School

Hiroshi’s Labyrinth

Primeval’s Eye

Fortress of Fortitude

Vermillion Swamps

Corridor of Elders

Aquatic Archipelago-

Overview: At the very bottom of Ninjago sits the Aquatic Archipelago, the last remaining trace of the once only landmass within the Realm of the Endless Sea. This region doesn’t seem to have a Guardian, but ancient texts from Before Time Began indicate that the FSM left the archipelago to its own devices as a sign of respect for the beings that already lived there, along with the winged-leviathan that formerly ruled the realm...although that beast’s name has since faded with time. Housing the Golden Peaks from which the rest of Ninjago was born form, and the strip of islands housing the protectors/keepers/worshippers of a very ancient, supposedly sleeping sea serpent, those who do still live here are either descendants of those who worshipped Wind and Water, or those who braved through the seas and/or the Toxic Bogs of the south to found the Vagabond Plains (which is where Jesse’s grandmother is from).

Guardian: Wojira (Sleeper of the Deep) Common Elemental Descendants: Water, Amber (Wind) Secondary Languages: Spanish, Greek, Korean, Tagalog, Swahili

Tartarus Trench + Temple of the Sea

Hono Mizu (Southern Half)

Chen’s Island

Storm Belt

Boiling Sea

Merlopia

Golden Peaks

Vagabond Plains

(Tiger Widow Island + The Keeper’s Island are also in this region, but are not on this map due to...not being on any maps normally haha)

I do have plans to do layouts for Ninjago City and the Dark Island eventually, but shh...I need a nap now...

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not sure how much of a loaded lore question this is but how cosmically important/powerful are the 4 main guardians, genesis, the great devourer, wojira, the preeminent and first bourne are in your universe are they god like beings that embody concepts like the fsm and and the overlord or are they just semi immortal magic creatures also sorta unrelated but do you have art of the guardians

Firstbourne/Alpha: Is actually the "mother" of the FSM, and is just a semi-immortal magic creature, but can be perceived as something of a god in the First Realm. Possesses the Essence of Creation and all four Elements, but cannot combine them into the Green Element. While she couldn't wrap her head around the concept of Balance at the time, she still helped her "son" flee the realm after she realized how miserable he was, and always believed he would return in some form.

The Omega: Is actually the "father" of the FSM, and is also just a semi-immortal magic creature, but can be perceived as something of a god in the First Realm. Wielder of the Essence of Destruction and user of Dark Magic (which, as we know via Garmadon and Mystake, enhances inherent Oni traits). When his "son" fled the Realm, he sent the three Oni Warlords to hunt after him, though Mystake found him first, long after he had turned the Realm of the Endless Sea into Ninjago. Having her heart changed by him and seeing the light of maintaining balance, she in turn killed the other two warlords and left the evidence of the Oni's presence in the realm sealed in a temple within Primeval's Eye.

The FSM: Only inherited the Essences of Creation/Destruction from his "parents", which came together as the Essence of Neutralization (or, the Golden Power), giving him to ability to Master Build/Break. Forced to flee from his home realm due to ensuing war over his powers, the FSM had to learn to harness the Elements from other sources, that being the Guardians found within other realms. From there, and after settling in Ninjago, he experimented with the Core Elements, discovering the Derivative Elements and causing the Green Element to manifest within him as well. Only seen a equivalent to a god as he truly has/had no equal, until...

The Overlord: Was manifested directly by the cosmos to balance out the FSM's otherwise peerless existence. Not exactly a "god" either, but is absolutely on par with the FSM himself, although he has the fatal flaw of only being able to exist when a wielder of the Green Element/Golden Essence does. When the FSM realized this, despite his and Genesis' attempts to seal the Overlord away for good two thousand-some years ago, he wound up giving up his life, in an attempt to cut his Element from the compass and thus prevent the Overlord from ever threatening his realm again. This almost worked, except his grandson was eventually born with the perfect genetic makeup to wield the Element/Essence for himself anyway...leading to the Overlord stirring again to beckon to Garmadon amongst other things. The Overlord's initial motivations are to wipe out the wielder of the Green Element/Golden Essence, even at the expense of himself, but after being defeated by Lloyd (and company) twice, he shifts his goals into erasing the Balance itself so he can extinguish Lloyd yet continue to persist for himself.

The Four Main Guardians: As the FSM ran off to establish a new home where he could live in peace, he came across four wielders of the Core Elements that weren't Dragons—Ruamoko, Eirlys, Tawhiri, and Vulcanell (also semi-immortal but very magic creatures). He befriended them all during his temporary stay in their home realms, and came to master the Four Core Elements, which he then went onto channel into the Four Golden Weapons when he forged them at the Golden Peaks. But when the Overlord reared his ugly head in Ninjago, the FSM summoned his old friends to his aid in the resulting battle, and with their four elements combined as one...

Dragon Genesis / The Great Devourer: ...the four Guardians manifested a Guardian of the Green Element, and one for its opposite of Golden Essence. The golden-eyed, green serpent became known as a snake to eventually be called The Great Devourer, while the green-eyed, golden serpent became known as a dragon called Genesis, who became the FSM's personal dragon. Together, the Devourer helped the FSM split Ninjago in two with destructive force despite her small size, while Genesis kept the Overlord trapped on the sinking half of the island, creating an opportunity for the FSM to seal the Overlord away (although Genesis sealed themself too in the process). The Devourer, after the battle, became the sole Guardian of Central, up until she bit the Master of Destruction, in which her venom reacted badly to Garmadon's Oni traits, while Garmadon's essence invoked a restless and destructive appetite within her that could never be satiated, especially without her other half to keep her in check.

As for what's up with Genesis now, well, that's a pretty big spoiler :P (And I know I said that Genesis came from the First Realm in the Compass post but I lied aka changed stuff around. It's been a while since I wrote that post snksnksnk)

Wojira: Long before Time Had a Name, and long before Ninjago was even a thought, the Storm Spirit Wojira soared through the waves and the winds of the Realm of the Endless Sea. Though she was the sole Guardian of what little lands there were (known as the Aquatic Archipelago in today's times), she did less "guarding" and more "causing chaos" creating turbulent turmoil for the denizens that did live there. With the Realm of the Endless Sea being the FSM's last stop during his quest through the realms, he worked with Nyad to quell the beast's reign, and then went on to forge the Golden Weapons at the Golden Peaks and from there create the island of Ninjago to live upon. And, it was witnessing a Master of Water in action that gave the FSM the realization that there were more elements than just the Core Four, pushing him to begin his experiments to begin with. Wojira, meanwhile, has been left in her deep sleep for all this time, but legends lost to time tell that she will return to reclaim all that was once hers...

The Preeminent: ngl she's a little bit complicated since at two separate points she is a realm and also persists within one, BUT eldritch horror is a suitable title for her so we're going with that for now call me back after Season 4

#and no i don't have art for the guardians just yet #a few others have drawn up some attempts tho!#i really do need to get to doing it myself but trying to draw animals makes me nervous aaaaa #ninjago #tlnm #legacyverse #the ninja legacy whip #long post #info tag #elemental compendium

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guardian questions was there any reason you choose chima, the never-Realm, djinnjago and the realm of madness to be where the 4 main guardians come from do the guardians home realms have legends about them how did each guardian become connected to their element since ruamoko is from chima is he technically a gorilla legend best and would he have a connection to that tribe is the reason the realm of madness looks the way it does because of vulcanell can genesis realm travel like a regular dragon and can he breath out an element like regular dragons which lloyd dragon does genesis look the closest to ultra, golden, his elemental, his core dragon or golden ultra how did the devourer guard all of central if it was the size of a garden snake while also having no powers how did she help the fsm divide ninjago did she boost his power so they could do that was she bigger during the overlord battle or was she always small until she bit garmadon if jesse had a guardian what animal would it be

was there any reason you choose chima, the never-Realm, djinnjago and the realm of madness to be where the 4 main guardians come from -> aesthetics, mostly

do the guardians home realms have legends about them -> yes, except for Vulcanell + Realm of Madness...but after DR kinda revealed that there ARE actually sentient creatures living in/from that realm, I may have to tweak that a bit. Either way, this gets discussed in Season 5 if not Post-S4.

How did each guardian become connected to their element -> Gets discussed in Post-S4 (and if things go according to plan, is a plot point!)

Since ruamoko is from chima is he technically a gorilla legend best and would he have a connection to that tribe -> Yeeees

is the reason the realm of madness looks the way it does because of vulcanell -> ...Partially (it's the result of an old fight b/w an Oni invasion and Vulcanell, actually)

can genesis realm travel like a regular dragon -> yes, but with limitation

And can he breathe out an element like regular dragons -> gold breath, I suppose, though it doesn't actually have any elemental/essence aspects

which lloyd dragon does genesis look the closest to ultra, golden, his elemental, his core dragon or golden ultra -> Genesis is the Golden Dragon. Ultra, Golden Ultra, and the Elemental Dragon are different entities that are still utilized later down the line, however.

how did the devourer guard all of central if it was the size of a garden snake while also having no powers -> Hey don't judge a Guardian by it's size! Eirlys is just a slightly larger wolf, after all ;P That being said, she mostly accompanied the FSM around from problem to problem, hence why she'd been in the gardens of the Monastery when Garmadon was bit. She then ran off after that, which is why Mystake headed off to hunt her down afterwards.

how did she help the fsm divide ninjago did she boost his power so they could do that -> yes, actually. She is not just the "Guardian of Green", but also representative of the Destructive half of the FSM's powers. Her presence definitely helped enhance his abilities (similar to how the Guardians helped the Core Four during their Great Devourer fight)

was she bigger during the overlord battle or was she always small until she bit garmadon -> she was always small(ish) until she bit Garmadon. Biting Garmadon is what gave her the insatiable appetite to begin with, and from there that's what caused her to start growing uncontrollably

if jesse had a guardian what animal would it be -> Either a rabbit (cuz magic) or a butterfly (cuz of the "surprising metamorphosis"), but those are kinda common picks for ocs, sooo...maybe an axolotl to spice things up. Plus they're usually pink!

#info tag #guardians #i also considered the irony of a spider guardian for jesse

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