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docs google com/document/d/1AvHh5vKdnTa1DaQrRwyH_6TXVnqe2HDYrzNmGFKKv8w/edit I know you're probably quite busy in the runup to Christmas, but I managed to hammer out chapter 9. I quite like this one even if its not hugely busy. Hope you can take a look if you have the time. Thanks friend and merry christmas :)

it only took me a month, huh? My notes for chapter 9 are in this folder here :)

Interesting chapter, I'm curious about what Lisa has planned for Harlow in the future...

As for my suggestions, mostly line breaks and a few readability edits. I'd recommend that you go over the part where Harlow reveals herself to Lisa again, it's good but it's a bit clunky. Honestly really good work on this part 👍

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docs google com/document/d/1OCj0v30RMnFgARfNxtVrgIfFF_dS_RJvkF_kW6KdGDM/edit Darkest Waters chap 8 took me ages! I've made a decision about the current whereabouts of a certain character that you may find highly controversial, and beyond that I'm not sure if some of the decisions made for this were the right ones. Be interested to hear what you think if you have the time. Thanks friend!

The notes are on the document 'New Notes' if you open them in Google Docs. Or, they should be. I hope.

I take comfort in knowing i didn't keep you waiting an entire month. Just...Almost an entire month crying and sobbing. Anyway, I really enjoyed this chapter a lot, I loved seeing my main man Robert at the end <3 <3 There's a couple of structural notes re: Lisa and Tommy's killing scene about moving the two Lis segments together so they don't interrupt the flow of the convo with Tommy and his old man.

Otherwise the usual stuff. It was nice to see Sam again! I was interested in seeing her in prison tbh. What sort of sentence is she doing in there for blackmail?

I'm also super invested in Harlow's journey in this fic. She seems to be hiding something... Otherwise, I'm intrigued by where you plan to take her with this new development but I think you guessed that. I'm very pro-bad girl!Harlow.

My other note, I guess, is your characterization of the Toadster. I think you should use words other than begged and whimpered Toadie's a sensitive guy but he does keep a cool and calm head when he's on the job. Anyway. Sorry this took so long. I liked reading it!

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Just saw it's your birthday (is it still? Time zones are weird) so have a lovely time my friend!

Thank you! I appreciate it a lot <3

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Also to add to your Gail post, her insistence on dragging Harlow back to Tasmania. The way she decides being near Paul will cause her to become Robert, as though Rob didn't spend the first two decades of his life with her? I don't think Gail or Paul are to blame for who Robert became, but that whole thing reeks of Gail trying to prove to herself that she can "raise" an almost-adult with Rob's genes, and if she doesn't go dark Gail can absolve herself.

yep yep yep 10000000000%!! It's not about Harlow at all, it's about Gail and her guilt she feels for 'missing' the signs that Robert might have been a bad egg. Harlow would be her do over baby, and she doesn't deserve that.

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Bit random, but I remember you thought that Elle would be Team Tash during the fake pregnancy storyline. That makes me wonder how she would've reacted to Andrew dating Lisa and the resulting bullying storyline. Obviously Elle would see high school drama as completely beneath her, but do you think she'd be willing to help Tash and Summer show Lisa who's boss? (This is making me wanna write a oneshot with this exact idea)

I LOVE to envision Elle as a mentor for Tash and Summer. I think she'd be able to bond with both of them, Tash over being maths girlies and Summer over journalism :3 So, yes I think she would be willing to help Tash and Summer if she thinks that the people she cares about are under threat! IDK I envision Elle and Tash having a heart to heart about hurting people when you're hurt and how men are never worth sacrificing your dignity for etc and then deciding to take her under her wing and teach her how to face and even harness the way people feel about you as a skill.

But it should also be noted Elle is not going to let Andrew get off so easily for dating someone to make someone else jealous/cheating on Tash lol, if anything she might blame him more than she would ever care about Lisa. Lisa is (to Elle) your average social climbing teenaged mean girl. Andrew is a Robinson and should be holding himself to a standard higher than Paul.

TBH I think we should also mention the lengths Elle was prepared to go to for Donna btw when she got in trouble for insulting Libby to her face and Elle stormed in there, mad as hell, and bullied Libby herself until she downgraded Donna from suspension to bin duty in return for worlds most insincere apology lol. Highschool Drama is literally Elle's forte -- I personally think she was a meangirl in highschool. A blonde, skinny cheerleader with a scheming side who loves to party and hang around with older guys? Yeah she was popular!

Anyway. Sorry about all that. I had a way better way of explaining that in the post that I lost. But yes, Elle would help. Especially if she can cause a problem for Libby in the process. What would she do exactly? Well. I'm not really sure. It can't be anything direct since that defeats the whole point of the storyline. Maybe she'd volunteer to run mathletes in order to make sure Tash isn't expelled and then find a way to rig that question so it's in Tash's speciality? I dunno. That, my friend, I may have to leave in your court.

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Hey friend! Just checking in and letting you know more Darkest Waters is coming. I haven't forgotten it. Just have to do another exam for work! Grrrr!

yay! *does happy dance* Always happy to hear from you <3 Good luck with your exam, hope you nail it!

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Do you think it's fair to say that the "narrative" of Neighbours (at least from the Bower era onwards) goes out of its way to frame the Kennedys as the emotional/moral core of Ramsay Street, in the sense that other characters often confide/seek advice or help from Susan/Karl with whatever's going on in their storylines, even if it has nothing to do with them, and the Kennedys (although fundamentally decent people) are pretty flawed themselves?

I thought I answered this but I guess i didnt whoops!

I think that that would be fair to say. I go around on the Kennedys, they dont do much for me, but I think it's very commendable that AF and JWB have stayed on as long as they have. in part, I think it's because Susan was the character who slipped into the role Helen played before she died. That inherited credibility did a lot for her, and for her and karl as a whole, I think.

I mean, you've kind of hit the nail on the head here. I think this makes them both very dull characters, Susan especially has become trapped in the libby kennedy victimization machine of late lol.

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Do you think its likely that one of the reasons Paul was so distant from Andrew was leftover trauma from the Rob/Cam saga? In the sense that yet another long-lost son has turned up out of the blue. How does he know that this one isn't secretly plotting to kill him and everyone he loves too?

Oh, for sure it's related to that! Comparatively, Paul was very open to Robert (as Cam) emotionally compared to Andrew. I think that when he realized that he was being manipulated, it made him scared to ever be that open with anyone aside from the person he already knew he could trust in spite of it all (Elle). That first lie Andrew told when he arrived, about the dance party, i think that unintentionally coloured Andrew and Paul's entire relationship. Is that not what Rob did? Showed up and lied to Paul in order to get into his life?

Equally important, Paul is having to learn how to be a parent to a son after losing another child. Neighbours doesn't often bother to remember that Paul is the father of a deceased child, but when it hits it HITS. During the Andrew epilepsy storyline, it really sticks out to me when Paul says 'you don't know what it's like to --' and cuts himself off. I honestly think that Paul was going to say 'lose a child' or something that would compare what Andrew was going through to Cameron's brief incapacitation before his death.

Combine these two very very difficult emotions (love after loss, and love after betrayal) and I don't think it's surprising at all that Paul was distant to Andrew and I think, as with many of Paul's struggles, Rob was the root cause.

One part of my theory about Paul in the Bower era particularly is that he's trying to imitate the way Jim parented him. Obviously, his attempts to parent his own way have failed. Robert is in Jail, and Cam is dead. So, he's doing the business thing and changing strategies. Unfortunately, Paul's parenting was not the problem. the problem is genetic mental illness or whatever the hell it is that permeates the whole Robinson family. What Paul can't do is see Jim as a fully formed person. Jim is his father. Jim is ONLY his father. So Paul takes what he feels about Jim (stern, hard to please, controlling) and tries to apply it to Andrew and fails each step of the way because Paul is just not built to parent like that. Even as he mellows out, his attempts to better parent Andrew come just a little too late. I feel like it's so telling that the thing Paul chooses to say to Andrew at the end is 'of course im proud of you' as is revealed in 2018, Paul feels like he never made his own father proud and he loves Andrew too much to ever let him carry that burden like he does.

Anyway back to the question. yes I think the Rob/Cam saga is entirely to blame for the space between Paul and Andrew.

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docs google com/document/d/1Smt_GX0m3uXK1U1aVbGyPEeKYS6A2bD3JZkNPwaVgWQ/edit?usp=sharing Here's Chap 7 of Darkest Waters. I put a lot of thought into this one but am not quite sure if it landed as well as I hoped. Interested to hear your thoughts if you have the time. Thanks friend!

For this one, I tried something a little different.

Let me know if you can see it <3 I think you cover a lot of ground in this chapter, and I like to see the story moving forward and a few things being explained. I will say that there's a few points I think you can expand on, and that I would like to know more about! Is Rowland going to play a big part in the fic moving forward?

The one part (and i mentioned this in the notes, I did my best impression of my dissertation supervisor sending me notes lol) that I think doesn't quiteeeee land is the segment with Summer, Harlow and Tash. I just think that the video connection needs to be stronger because atm idk. it just seems...a bit random. Like, there's plenty of in prison vids from all over the world on the internet. why does this one make summer nervous, and so concerned she has to call Tash when there's literally nothing connecting the vid to Lisa/Andrew? I would go over that point again and make things more clear.

Other than that, just the usual tightening up paragraphs, and a little bit of grammar/nit picking. and of course you should feel free to disregard anything I have to say. Overall, I love to see it and I'm so sorry this took so long to get too!

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@paulrobinsonshotel i put some glasses on sophie and um is she kind of giving lisa devine or am i trippin lol?

#and that daniella is giving summer hoyland slay 2011 fringe which is why she's there haha #dollpost #also just remembered yesterday i was meant to give you feedback on your chapter im working on it ahhhhhhhhhhhh it's just almost bookweek an #i work in a library so. you get it haha.

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ive been playing around with an idea for an au that's kind of following on from Natural Born Robinsons in which Paul actually DOES die and Elle has to assume custody of Andrew.

but idk. i kind of want to expand on that a little? i got an ask once (probably from paulrobinsonshotel) about what would happen to Elle if she lost everything and I feel like my answer was not....fully developed? enough. Like, I want to try to explore that.

so, my plan is for paul to have died from being pushed by rebecca, and his assets divided as such - Elle would get the apartment from 2007, the paper, and a 25% share of Lassiters. Andrew gets Paul's signet ring, 25% of Lassiters and some money, both in trust for when he is 21. Basically everything else would go to Rebecca.

Then, just to kick her while she's down Rebecca has fled the country after Elle figures out it was her who pushed Paul, so now Paul's dodgy creditors are chasing Elle to pay off his outstanding, massive debts which is why she can't just use her own savings to pull herself and Andrew out of the hole. Rebecca and Declan have evicted them from 22 Ramsay st. Basically, she has no liquid assets. nothing. it sounds sadistic but I am curious to develop her mindset in such a situation, especially with Andrew relying on her now.

The big conflict of the story would be Elle having to choose between Selling off her stake in Lassiters, or the paper. Since she's the trustee acting on Andrew's behalf, selling off her shares would cost her a controlling share in the hotel, and prevent her from being to safeguard Andrew's assets and possibly setting him up for a fall in the future. Selling the paper would be hard for her because she hates working at the hotel, and doing stuff at the paper is one of the the few things that she feels like makes her life enjoyable. And there's a little bit of Elle/Libby in there too cause why not?

Andrew's conflict would come from his usual teenage angst. He's angry with Paul for getting them into this mess. He's angry Rebecca doesn't truly see them as family. He's angry at Elle, for giving up what's left of her twenties to take care of him. He's angry at Christina for not having his back, the usual Andrew angst. All that anger is mixed with sadness because even though Paul wasn't a very good father, he was their father and he loved them. And fear, that Elle will find this all too hard and send him away, or that worse, something will happen to her. I want there to be contrast between how the factors affecting Elle are external, and the ones affecting Andrew are internal.

I was also toying with the idea of Andrew picking up an illegal side hustle in order to help Elle pay of Paul's creditors. Drugs? IDK. Because it's Andrew he'd get caught or something. Need to develop this more, I think he is the sort though. Not really sure what pov i would frame it through. My gut says Andrew. just what I've been thinking about lately.

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@paulrobinsonshotel hopefully I should have your draft back you by tomorrow evening 🤞🤞🤞

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@paulrobinsonshotel (and any other interested ask sending persons) I’m going to be very very busy for the next five or so days so please be patient (more patient than usual) with my timeliness thanks!

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paulrobinsonshotel. i am working on some notes for you, but im trying something a little different this time and putting them directly onto the story through comments rather than notes. I promise I have not forgotten you and your fic!!

#darkest waters posting #sorry this has taken me so long but it's been really hectic at work (experienced co-worker broke her leg) and i had a driving lesson today #ive had a lot going on!! but i havent forgotten you!! it haunts me every waking moment like an unsent email!!

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paulrobinsonshotel i swear i am getting on your fic on GOD i am getting to your fic bro.

#i just had to do small fandom bang first ajakajkdjksjsf i thought i had more timeeeeeeeee

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@paulrobinsonshotel i have your message, and I will write you notes tomorrow <3

#Just letting you know! brain must today. worked six hour shift lol but i will get them done #hopefully in under a week this time ;>.> #also who has the username paul robinson btw?