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theplanetprince · 2 years

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I'm on the fence with some characters, like I just don't see/feel the appeal of them, which is fine. Like I guess it's my brain and how it works, but I don't think it's necessary for Dan to have a redemption arc or even a contiunation, bc like most of the 'event' episode villains are extremely over powered one offs that don't really mean anything to me as characters. And Dan as a character isn't nearly as interesting as he is just a straight up villain. Like do I really think there needs to be three Dannys? Absolutely not! That is... Completely unnecessary and shows complete weakness as a character writer. Yes, im including Danielle (she will get her own post eventually when my thoughts are clear)

I used to think the ultimate enemy was by far the weakest episode to air, like right next to phantom planet. I know that is some fighting words, I've mellowed out in my age, but I still wouldn't say Ultimate Enemy breaks the my top ten. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as their gateway either.

I would label Ultimate Enemy as a Fanservice episode first and foremost. Youre basically seeing these already cool teens as even cooler adults-- like hello. And as a seven year old, that type of speculative storytelling was fun.

If I could compare it to anything I would compare it to the Dragon Ball Z Broly movies. Everybody loves the visuals and the fights, but no one ever like... Talks about how dumb Broly's origin story is. Broly as an infant basically got annoyed by a baby crying next to him and vowed to kill him as an adult.

I think the Ultimate Enemy as a story introduces many exciting concepts. Like two different ghost halves can fuse to make a whole ghost (like think of the potential there), and of course Clockwork. The fenton technology helped danny in a major way, which in a way symbolizes that even in the most hopeless situation, his family would always be there for him. As well as the idea that yes these characters do have the potential to die, and do! (So any post canon fuckery that the ghosts are interdimensional beings is invalid :))

I think the best concept that ultimate enemy raises is that Danny always has the potential to be evil within him. He just lacks the motivation. But as I've mentioned in my previous posts Danny isn't really a typical super hero, hes kind of an asshole to his classmates and uses the justification that his classmates hate him anyway-- so why not get impulsive revenge? Like hes not a morally grey or morally complex character by any means. He's simply an impulsive kid with anger issues. The horror comes from the fact that he has the unspoken god like power that he can choose to unleash on his classmates whenever he gets shorted tater tots in the cafeteria that day.

Dan needs to be evil for that horror to work. That isn't to say I don't think he could ever like change, but he's fine as is. His entire narrative purpose is to be evil so we could see a speculative take on what it would be like if Danny ever did fall of the deep end. (Which I would argue Vlad already did in his debut episodes, but ILL PUT IT IN ANOTHER POST GODDAMNIT)

Then there are the things that keep this episode from being in my favorites. And it purely has to do with the fact that this episode completely breaks the inherent tragedy behind the ghost concept and the world building. The ghosts still technically AGE in the ghost zone... Which is like... No they don't... Are you telling me Sidney Poindexter just has an amazing skin care routine to look sixteen for fifty years? Or Eudora and her brother, what's up with them? Also the ghosts can have children. Which... Is a choice. I mean the joke about the box ghost going on ghost p90x and becoming a fuck monster is still funny but do I think it's funny enough to snap the entire world in half? No. (Yes, the Box ghost's dick broke the canon. That's what im saying.) Dan is still tied to this concept because he ages too. Or you could argue Danny's ghost half took Vlad's middleagedness, I guess??

Also like the splitting of Dannys ghost and human half only works for this episode. Because in the dream catcher ep, it turns out if left unattented Danny's ghost half is basically superman and Danny's human half is the scum of the earth.

And again Dan, is an interesting concept, but the fact that he manifests directly as a concept of Danny choosing the "easy" way in academics was the completely wrong way to show Danny's vices. Especially when he has so many vices.

#danny phantom #dp #long post//#long post #dan phantom #txt

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sonicasura · 3 years

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Danny Phantom Surprise Dads

An idea that popped into my head involving my childhood favorite Danny Phantom and spiting the shit out of the creator Bitch Hartman.

Let's give Danny some father figures with questionable backgrounds.

How this will work is simple. They have to share an aspect similar to our lovable ghost boy or can relate. Superpowers(preferably ghost or spiritual related), not human or previously human, socially awkward, some role in good or evil: Remember the hour special Ultimate Enemy if you need any clarification, etc.

Here are my picks.

Snatcher- A Hat In Time

Yep! We're starting with the soul eating ghostly noodle of Subcon Forest. So far, I've never seen Danny with a father figure even close to a ghost much less. A VERY disappointing fact despite the fan art and fanfiction with all sorts of dad! characters like @the-stove-is-on-fire 's Spiderdad and Dadpool, or the multiple Irondad fics on AO3 especially "How Tony keeps adopting Ghost sensitive kids". So my Snatcher choice is viable.

The bean will have someone to help him get a better hold of his powers and Snatcher having someone to relate too. If you don't know or haven't played Hat In Time, I will just say that Snatcher was a good loving person until a traumatic experience turned him into this wisecracking malevolent soul eating ghost.

Cracking jokes can be a coping mechanism btw, even the morbid ones.

For alignment, the Subcon Snatcher is Chaotic Neutral. He only really causes trouble in his domain which is Subcon Forest, he cares about his minions to an extent (he uses them for one attack in his boss battle) and kills any trespassers on his land but do give them a chance to live through contracts.

The bonding will no doubt start out slow especially what point of time Danny is, the biggest is when he has his Ice Powers. But I can see Snatcher being someone Danny can go to if life in Amity gets hard to handle. A driving point to help Danny is so the halfa doesn't end up like him.

Also, I just want to see Snatcher and Danny a Ghostly Wail like combo or the ghostly noodle beating the shit out of Vlad. Bigger bonus is if Hat Kid's around, Danny has a little sister figure he can cause mischief with while giving Snatcher a headache. Or all three team up and prank everyone.

Sukuna Ryomen

Now you can say I'm insane for picking him. One of the Ultimate Evils from Jujustu Kaisen but hear me out.

Once again, we have a character closer to the ghostly spectrum specifically a Curse. Curses are a type of entity born from negative emotions such as: sorrow, angry, fear, etc.

Sukuna was once human before becoming the 4 armed, two faced, tattoo King of Curses. After a 1000 years, Sukuna at the moment is split into 20 fingers with Itadori Yuji as his vessel.

Encountering someone like Danny is definitely gonna grab Sukuna's attention. Danny's assortment of powers but also pun loving attitude in battle will drive him wild. Interest is there but just like Snatcher, it'll take time for a bond to form.

The jumpstart would be a friendship with Itadori which involves goofing off or training. And seeing a good look at Danny's personality, the times our ghost boy gets awfully quiet do the alarm bells ring. Think Sukuna would rather have a happy Danny than a depressed one.

Sukuna would be a huge ass tsundere about his growing bond with Danny before it hits him like: "Damn it, now I'm attached to this brat." Once again, the Ultimate Enemy episode will play a huge factor. Considering where he is, Sukuna definitely wouldn't want Danny to end up like him.

Also mentioning the Pariah Dark episodes, you can bet Sukuna would be impressed upon Danny practically being the King of the Ghost Zone due to the rules. Would Danny get a Domain Expansion similar to Sukuna if his powers adapt the King of Curses'?

Sparring matches would be a definite and Vlad would be so screwed if he did something to Danny. I'm pretty sure an angry four arm, four eyed, stomach mouth horror of a father figure be haunting the fruit loop might the perfect repellent.

Plus Danny has a Two in One deal! A father figure in Sukuna and a brother with Itadori! If Sukuna did get out, would he adopt Itadori under circumstances? 🤔

Also, I sorta had this peculiar idea now that I see we have two ghostly father figures. Can Danny's ghost form adapt from a paternal relationship with a ghost or supernatural entity? His power allows him to adapt against opponents and even copy specific abilities so why not his physical form too?(Looking at you Bitch Hartman.)

I can actually see Danny's form slightly shift or even evolve depending on the current bond. For Snatcher, he could have minor fire magic with a slightly shadow appearance, his hair be messy with violet tips or his suit becoming a cloak to mimic shadows.

And for Sukuna, his own tribal like tattoos, slits under his eyes that could become eyes, or even four arms too! His clothes could shift to something like hakama trousers, an obi or yutakata. Inherited powers being his own Domain Expansion and curse fire.

That's all I have on the topic! If you guys have a character suggestion to be Danny's father figure and how it would go, just reblog it here!

Until next time folks! Going Ghost!

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