#may post more MW stuff but idk

[3dimensionalsystem]

i haven't posted art here in weeks so

have this stupid au doodle i made while i try draw smthn that isn't an au

#this is uhhh #the uhm mind wound au #that i've made with friends #uh yea the funny daver bamber #may post more MW stuff but idk #dave and bambi #dnb dave #dnb bambi #joop art #OH AND IF YOU SEE ANY MISTAKES #NO YOU DONT #ITS 1AM SO IM NOT FIXING THEM #THERES NO MISTAKES OKAY

[atgranger]

I’m not saying this as a hateful anon or anything, at all, really, but I saw your tags in the bi/pan post and I was wondering. If you think that they are the same (honestly, I do too), don’t you think that pansexuality erases bisexuality? I’ve seen countless examples of this: pride stuff where pan is included but not bi, biphobic comments about bis not liking trans people or even people asking why be bi if you can be pan. Idk, it all seems weird for mw. Again, I mean no harm with this.

I have a very long story with both terms. I "chose" the label pan roughly 5 years ago when there was a strong discussion going around and bi and pan where still a lot more nuanced (read bi didnt include nonbinary identities) and pan just seemed to fit better to me.

In these last 5 years I've seen a lot of post that bi DOESNT exclude enbies and I am a huge defender of defining your own label. I have talked with a friend of mine who defines her sexuality exactly the same and identifies as bi.

All identifications are VALID! If someone defines their sexuality as bisexual the same way I define my pan sexuality then that's valid. If someone defines the difference between bi and pan wether there is a preference that's valid as well!

I dont do that though and my definitions of bisexual and pansexual are pretty similar although not interchangeably so. I sometimes switch the label to spare me the explanation of what pan is, which may be shitty of me. But I sometimes just dont have the energy.

That leads to the question wether pan is bi erasure. I dont think so. People have the right to identify as they want and there will always be bi people. In my limited experience though it is the other way around. Multiple times I got the question "why did you pick pan (and open up a new label) when bi is right there?". As for pride items, I am sadly not that up-to-date on that matter.

TLDR: bi and pan are really close within their definitions and people will ask. You do you and you are valid.

#personal #did that clarify things? #please ask again if I didn't cover smth #atgrangeranswers #bi #pan

[sometimesrosy]

How do you think Clarke will ‘suffer’ in S6? Personally I don’t know how it’s even possible for her to suffer even more and still keep her sanity...She’s only just started to rebuild her support structure.

I mean. Are you projecting that she will “suffer?” JR said that it would be a Clarke focused season and that she is committed to being the good guy and not everyone would forgive her as quickly as Bellamy did. 

But I have to say that I see the “suffering” in fiction differently than fandom seems to. 

I don’t think characters in fiction should be free of suffering. I think they need to face conflict and pain in order to grow and I think that this type of show, post apocalyptic, REQUIRES suffering, in order for our characters to face the destruction of their world and learn how to build a new one.

And on a personal level, watching the characters suffer and come through the pain stronger and transformed is a valuable thing for me to see, as a person who has struggled for a long time, with a lot of things. LIke, I RELATE to their suffering. Sometimes not even symbolically, but on a very irl life basis.

So when people ask me about characters suffering and imply that they shouldn’t have to suffer, I have to explain that I think the suffering in fiction is valuable. Just as it MAY be irl. We all suffer, you know? Hers is dramatized. And how she continues on is part of what makes her a hero

And that she doesn’t just get over it, like tv shows usually do, means that this show works better for me, personally, as someone who has not just been able to “get over” my own struggles without a lot of work. And who is really NOT the same because of it.

Like it’s real.

So what kind of suffering will she face in the new season? I think she’ll have to face what she did. The bad things. Earn forgiveness. But I think everyone should earn their forgiveness, no matter how many good things you’ve done. That doesn’t erase the bad. You have to learn and change and be better. You have to check yourself and be responsible for your own monster.

I think we’ll see…. her uncertainty and feeling like she doesn’t belong, but it will be better than before. She worked through a lot in season 5, and I think she’ll get a chance to interact with her old people again.

I don’t actually know what suffering is coming. I believe we’ll see the story have Clarke attempt to be a good guy. And that won’t be so easy. She’ll have to make choices and make people unhappy and perhaps some people will be against her for it. 

As The 100, there will probably be some physical suffering. Kidnapping. Being chased or tortured or imprisoned. Because there always is.

I think there will be some serious decisions and her idea of Utopia will be dashed, as this peaceful world doesn’t turn out as great as she thought. I think we’ll see that issues surrounding her FATHER will come up again and maybe Wells. Like we might get to go backwards into her trauma. We’ve worked through Lxa and MW, we might go through Finn again, idk. I see the Jake stuff, but I’m not sure if she’ll be going backwards before s2 and the betrayal. I’d have to see if that structure is in place. But if it does, I think we’ll be seeing closure, instead of retriggering, like we saw with Lxa and HER betrayal, which, in canon, was stated to be why she was making all these horrible sacrifices. Because Lxa taught her that was what she was SUPPOSED to do. 

Honestly, I think she’s worked through a lot of her damage from s2 and s3, finally. The isolation of the time jump may still have some residual effects. But I’m seeing that by the end of the season, ALL the relationship are tightening up and getting more real and important. They are the REASON to survive. They are the “more” part of “more than just surviving.” And I STILL think that spacekru is going to pull Clarke back into the family. 

They didn’t get to in season 5, because of the trauma and breaking the cycle and starting over again and becoming complete.

You know. I see the new season as NOT being so traumatic. Because they are stronger now. And they are together. ALL of them. Clarke and Bellamy and Madi and Raven and Murphy and Emori and Indra and Gaia and Echo and… yeah. Watch as we see everyone pull back in. Become a PEOPLE. I’m hoping for that.

Not out of fear or trauma, but out of choice. I think we’ll get Octavia and Abby and Kane and Miller back in, and Diyoza and Shaw.

Sorry, I know y’all like the narrative of “our poor beleaguered faves are always being tortured by the evil JR,” but I think I see something different happening in the new season and the new book. 

I think they’ve come through the trauma and dealt with the abusive world and faced their demons and learned their lessons and, well, healed. 

And frankly, that’s why the suffering is worth it. Because they get stronger and they become heroes. 

That, my friends, is transformation.

#the 100 #clarke griffin #hero's journey #suffering #transformation #if you'll notice clarke's trauma after she found madi anyway was not as terrible as in previous seasons

[kinetic-elaboration]

January 3: The 100 2x08 Spacewalker

Spacewalker is probably a bad episode to watch when I’m feeling sad like this but... what can you do? (I’d say ‘skip the episode’ but I mean... it never gets cheerier so.)

The Grounders as a whole don’t intimidate me at all since I’ve seen their ineptitude too many times but I will never be over those costumes/masks.

See okay this Finn thing... On the one hand (I know I’ve said all this before), Raven is right that asking for Finn in exchange for a truce isn’t an offer. The offer has already been made. Clarke made it. The Reaper cure for backing the army away/maybe even forming an alliance. (This is a win-win-win for the Grounders btw: the war they’re so intent on fighting has no clear cause or purpose, so they lose nothing by just forgetting about it, and they gain a lot from the Reaper cure and anti-MW allies.) And Lexa accepts that offer, but then when she gets what she wants she demands more. I recognize that she is in a position of power and Clarke one of weakness, but I still think her attitude is dishonorable and bad faith and it pisses me off.

BUT I also don’t think that it’s inherently wrong for Finn to be punished by the Grounders for a crime against Grounders. I think their method of justice and punishment is bad but this isn’t actually a “Blood must have blood” scenario. It’s more like... how societies operate now? Because it’s, you know, pretty reasonable? Like if I went to France and killed someone, you can bet I’d be tried and imprisoned in France. So it’s really not, as Bellamy says, “insane.” (But then of course they have no concept of international law because they have never known any other ‘nation’ before so I guess..IC??)

Similarly, if the Grounders committed crimes against Arkadians, it would be fair for the Arkadians to punish them. (And I’d like to say ‘and they would and wouldn’t think twice’ but then I remember Ilian in S4 and just....ugh.....) (They should have killed him is what I’m saying.)

BUT it’s also gauche that Finn’s people are so quick to just hand him over. Unsurprising--from a world-building perspective I appreciate when the delinquents are considered nobodies, as they should be--but gauche.

Clarke always wants to save everyone, to find solutions to everything. Promise first, figure out the details later.

Also love Bellamy in the background pushing people away from Raven and trying to diffuse the situation, too.

“You’re running fluid dynamic specs while we’re having sex” is honestly such a self-burn though? Like if that’s what she’s doing, the sex isn’t good.

I love the set of Raven’s room. Whenever I picture the Ark, I always blur the details but these spaces are so cool. Hers looks basically like a mechanic’s workshop.

Every SINGLE time I see one of Finn’s pieces of metalwork art I think about that post laying out how Finn/Murphy could have been a thing and I just physically can’t stand it it made so much sense.

Speak of the devil.

All these people have their issues with Finn but when it’s time to protect one of their own (one of t100) they are all in. Like literally they are willing to turn Alpha Station into a fortress for one person.

And like honestly turning on Murphy though? I guess I understand it if we’re willing to say they were truly Finn’s friends, and given that Murphy uh killed some people and tried to kill Bellamy but--I never got the impression that Bellamy liked Finn and Clarke has many reasons to be upset with him. But I guess people are just like this: good at compartmentalizing. Murphy is just an easier target for anger right now, and you can’t be second guessing your defense of Finn when there’s literally a whole village of warriors out to get him. I guess from Clarke it’s a practical position, which she’s very good at. In a way perhaps... she is more practical than strictly loyal?

And Murphy always available to tell unvarnished truths. (That Finn was looking for Clarke isn’t relevant to blame or morality--it doesn’t make it her fault--but it does go to the heart of why she’s looking for scapegoats.)

I agree with Lincoln, obviously, over Octavia: Lxa would 1000% sacrifice one of her own in Clarke’s position, no question. Because she’s cold, but also it’s tactically and arguably morally the right thing to do. Lxa’s positions are often black and white--so are everyone’s--but O’s are like downright naive. (”She can’t ask us to hand over one of our own! Would she do that??”)

I can’t believe Clarke is so shocked that Lincoln would turn on Finn. Oh yeah this guy who was nice to him once but subsequently massacred his village? Yeah, they’re not friends anymore lol.

I feel like I didn’t have much sympathy toward this when I first watched it but I do like Lincoln’s line “We all have a monster inside of us. We’re all responsible for what it does when we let it out.” I think I disliked it because it made me uncomfortable tbh. (What still makes me uncomfortable is how much blame Lincoln gets, from the narrative, for actions he took when he really wasn’t in his right mind. Like... yes it was still him and something to live with, but he wasn’t just an addict, he was made an addict through torture by an enemy... seems perhaps a situation where more slack is warranted. Anyway.)

That said the Grounder torture machine is just...... leave me alone, I don’t need this gratuitous violence. I’m neither shocked nor impressed.

What they should have done was try Finn initially themselves because while I do stand by everything I said about facing Grounder punishment for crimes against Grounders, by the standards of his people, that torture is itself a moral wrong. And that’s reason to refuse extradition. But you can’t take the high ground about acceptable punishments when you let a war crime go with a ‘well, we don’t have a judiciary so I guess you’re pardoned?? idk??’

Another thing that I wish Clarke or someone had mentioned is that “He must suffer the pain of 18 deaths. Then we can have peace” may not be true at all because L has already shown that she does not act in good faith. There is every chance Clarke will hand over Finn, he’ll be tortured and killed, and then L will say “I also want [x arbitrary number] of your people as penance for frying my warriors” or “I also want access to your magical ship because I said so” or “I also want you to do a song and dance for me because it would be funny”--and she can say this because she has this army. And if Clarke says no at any point in the long litany of requests, L can just send the army in. She’s made no gestures of good will at all. So it would be nice if someone showed some skepticism about what good handing over Finn would really do--based on what they know at this point in the narrative.

Abby versus Jaha: I’m with Jaha not because I really agree with him--this is the period where he’s pissing me off--but because Abby taking the high ground is just so......... I mean yeah when it suits her?? I’m not sending a child to his death bitch please you already did that.

Clarke was legitimately disgusted by Finn just like 1-2 eps ago and now she’s ready with the excuses? It’s too much. I semi-understand her, as I said before re: compartmentalizing, but also I expect better from her. He wasn’t trying to look for anyone or save anyone; he was off his nut in a rage.

That love confession is so manipulative. And so weird... I mean he obviously doesn’t love her lol. But then again I always complain about these characters not acting like teenagers and then whenever one does I’m like “stop being so unreasonable CHILD.”

And Clarke with the awkward ‘mmm just gonna ignore you said stuff about love and forgiveness.’

Love the Griffin / Blake power walk.

This was back when I was still invested in Kabby (I loved them up until the moment they got together, then my interest level plummeted tbqh.) Kane’s return with such like off-center romance.

Legit question but considering the pretty amazing defensive structure they have in Alpha Station plus their guns and, like, General Technology... could they have won a battle? All of the negotiations, private and public, rely on the assumption that they could not but... I mean the 100 won at the end of S1 with, arguably, less.

I love that you can see the trees through the windows of the Ark, and some of the trees are coming in.

“I wasn’t a prisoner, but I wasn’t allowed outside either.” So.... you were a prisoner?

Abby, Kane, and Marcus are one fucked up trio. “The former Chancellor is being detained for treason.” Aka disagreeing with Abby. Kane: wide-eyed wtf??? Abby: oh and btw I’m keeping this job for as long as I feel like it; who’s the chancellor now bitch? Like power’s just a hot potato they throw among the three of them.

I do not at all believe L would actually agree to letting the Ark prosecute and execute Finn as a sufficient fulfillment of their end of any bargain. I think that would be a smart compromise but I don’t believe it of her tbqh. Still it is a best case scenario and Abby putting up her nose at the possibility of Finn being guilty of “war crimes” (which like he definitely is???) (except in the sense that there’s probably no real ‘rule of war’ in this universe and thus ‘war crimes’ is impossible to define but other than that...)--just drives me nuts.

I know I’m saying a lot of inconsistent things--that I think Finn should be punished but that I also think Grounder “justice” is gross and immoral and L is inherently untrustworthy--but basically it comes down to: they keep talking in terms of practicality, and no one is bringing up the moral dimension. Does he deserve to be punished in some way by some one for massacring 18 innocent civilians? Because I think just about anyone with any sort of moral dignity would say yes.

Anyway Raven’s really hot.

Really wish there’d been more a sense of where the delinquents are versus the main population. They only seem to use the majority of the Arkers when they need some conflict or some extras, but they don’t have, like, a real or consistent pov.

We NEEDED those Kane & Lxa scenes honestly. He keeps on saying things like “I spent time with her” and “I know her” and “she’s a visionary” but I’m gonna be honest I saw 0 visionary qualities in her, I legit do not get this, and you can’t say shit like this without backing it up. Like is she a “visionary” for keep them alive this long or is she just being reasonably intelligent by attempting to extract as much as she can from them, knowing she could kill them at any time? I mean her calculations are pretty easy as long as she has no honor--which she doesn’t--so I don’t see anything visionary or remarkable, even, about it. If she had to decide whether or not to accept non-torture punishment for Finn, that might be somewhat harder--but even then, nothing like what Abby, Clarke, et.al. are going through. She could prob. just lie and say she saw them torture Finn and now he’s dead (even if he weren’t even dead lol) and get away with it since she’s such a good liar generally and has no qualms about it.

What about anything she has experienced here makes Abby think that “showing Indra she understands her pain” will do literally anything?

I actually think Finn’s desire not to shoot that Grounder when he could, and would have had some reason to, is interesting--like he really did snap at the beginning of the season, and now he’s more “himself” again. I know this whole story line was devised to get him off the show but it actually could have, hypothetically, been a good exploration of living with long-term guilt, integrating a part of yourself you didn’t think existed into your more general, and still mostly accurate, vision of yourself. (There are a lot of other characters who could do this too obviously... Finn’s really the only one that I can think of who just snapped out of and then back into place, though.)

Damn that burned out dropship. (Definitely did not describe it right in that fic whoah-well.)

“Murphy, what are you doing here?” / “I believe I was invited.” Murphy just wants to be one of the group, ultimately. I really do believe that. I find it kind of touching and sad. (Especially since he’s only there to be thrown to the wolves by Raven lol. Not quite as hard to watch as him shooting her but close.)

Nurse!Murphy back at it again, helping Bellamy with Clarke.

I’m sorry but I just really don’t get why Finn is the hill Abby wants to die on lol. Yeah he’s your daughter’s friend and you’re rightfully guilty about the 100 situation and he’s only 17 or so but--he actually did what the Grounders said he did? NOW is the time to go all peace and love with Indra like ‘let’s stop the blooodshed!!!’?? Okay well you can start with not condoning war crimes.

People get so up in arms about the Finn cheating thing and honestly, not a great move--but I have some sympathy for the situation. Finn and Raven were not romantically compatible; they’re all young; and feelings really do change. They handle the situation with a remarkable degree of maturity overall--Finn admitting he shouldn’t be let off the hook, Raven emphasizing that they’re family, Clarke refusing to be the other woman in S1, Raven and Clarke becoming friends.

“The things that we’ve done to survive, they don’t define us” is all well and good--for someone suffering from guilt over actual impossible decisions, or self-defense killing, or killing in war. But Finn really didn’t have to kill a bunch of civilians, he didn’t rationally think he had to (he had Murphy there telling him he was being irrational), and he didn’t accomplish anything or serve any loftier goal by killing them. So basically what I’m saying is, Clarke, let him be guilty. He should feel guilty about this. And if you think he should live, he’ll never be able to move on until he acknowledges his wrong-doing.

Similarly, though, “maybe this is who we are now” is also rich--speak for yourself, buddy.

“It’s a capital crime” is such a dumbass thing to say, since the pilot established that “capital” is tied to the age of the perpetrator not the action taken. But I guess just as an audience reminder of the stakes.

Also this says “a year ago” but it clearly wasn’t a year ago--Finn says he’ll only be in the Sky Box for a few months, and he’s still there as of the pilot, and S1 is only about a month long--so Raven is 18, not 19 as she’s usually portrayed.

Anyway saving Raven from getting arrested was a legitimately good and noble thing he did.

I feel like we as a fandom collectively underestimate Raven’s ruthlessness. Like she really would have turned over Murphy instead of Finn and I truly find that sickening. I know that he shot her and that probably contributes to her sense that he’s expendable but it’s just such an obviously insanely wrong thing to do. Even Bellarke, not exactly paragons of virtue here, are like ‘woah, that’s a bridge too far, even for us.’ Also I really think Murphy has a thing for Raven and I really think that he was touched and complimented when she asked him to be part of the group, which just makes the betrayal so much worse--and really hits me in a softer part of myself, because this is more relatable to me than, like, guns and war.

Never a good sign when your friend says a prayer to you solemnly before just leaving for a few minutes.

Honestly it’s so... like darkly comic that after an entire episode of people talking about Finn, he ultimately just surrenders himself. Fitting. Satisfying.

Ugh, Kane’s that annoying guy who calls men younger than him “son.”

Okay the last ten minutes is just like gratuitous sadness.

So like basically we’re to assume from that conversation with Lincoln that Kane’s allegedly great idea about Ark justice wouldn’t have worked out, I guess?

I don’t agree with Lxa on anything but this isn’t a hill I would die on if I were her, either. Like maybe sometimes showing mercy can be revolutionary and maybe you can even get away with it--but this isn’t the situation where that’s possible. Finn isn’t a child by their standards (he’s probably about Lexa’s age?) and he isn’t an innocent. So “show my people how powerful you are” isn’t a great argument. She isn’t powerful enough to stop an execution like this, one so popular and--unnecessary torture aside--basically justified according to the laws and customs of the relevant societies.

Also super pisses me off that Clarke is comparing herself and Finn. Burning 300 warriors during a battle in order to save yourself is absolutely not the same as opening fire on a village of civilians and she is certainly smart enough to know the difference. I know--an emotional time, a last ditch effort. But I’m annoyed because having watched 4 seasons of this show and tumblr-watched a couple more I LEGITIMATELY do not know if the writers understand the difference. Like I think I might be supposed to be taking Clarke seriously here.

Like Clarke does need to wrestle with her own guilt--but this is still nuts.

Also she has never actually wrestled with her own guilt and neither has anyone else: it’s either ‘woe is me I’m so guilty’ or ‘what guilt? lol’

I mean Olav has already done the whining about his own un-atoned sin thing WAY better so....

ALTHOUGH back to everything I said about Kane’s proposal--ultimately, that’s what Clarke just unilaterally did: she executed Finn, which is probably what any fairly applied bit of Arker justice would have decreed--without torturing him--dealt with his very real crime on Camp Jaha’s terms, basically, not the Grounders’. And Lexa accepted this because it was too late to change it and ultimately she’d already gotten pretty close to what she wanted and could see that there was more to extract from Clarke’s people (as anti-MW allies) alive than dead.

This is obviously a very emotional and wrenching scene but I just can’t allow myself to feel it right now because I’m very upset and this is my distraction.

I do remember being actually floored when I watched it the first time though.

I’m going to tentatively say I agree with the opinion that Raven never got over Finn’s death and Clarke’s part in it--that they were never truly friends again after this.

Bravenlarke are such a physically attractive ot3.

Overall a good episode but not a fun or enjoyable episode. I miss my MW kids.

#the year 2020 #2020: t100 s2 #the 100 rewatch #the 100

[midnightoilburners]

Conversation with Will, Ali, Ray, Destiny, Makena Master is Bryan Wednesday, August 23, 2017 Destiny ([phone]:23:46 I misunderstood makennas number. I'm sorry, everyone should be here now Master ([phone]:24:10 Here Ali ([phone]:25:26 I got it Makena ([phone]:32:26 Ok Thursday, August 24, 2017 Will ([phone]:08:49 Soooo group name? 15:08:59 Wait everyone send their name Ray ([phone]:10:31 Ray Will ([phone]:11:03 Will Makena ([phone]:12:23 MaKenna Ali ([phone]:12:54 Ali Master ([phone]:30:51 Bryan, sorry i was in class Destiny ([phone]:37:21 Destiny Friday, August 25, 2017 Destiny ([phone]:29:09 So we need a group name Ali ([phone]:30:09 Any suggestions? Master ([phone]:37:09 Midnight oil burners Destiny ([phone]:37:53 That sounds illegal Master ([phone]:38:38 .... never heard of burning the midnight oil? How old am i? Destiny ([phone]:39:31 Like gas in the car?😂😂 Ali ([phone]:39:42 Haha😂 Master ([phone]:39:59 God I am old.... Ray ([phone]:41:15 Lol ouch Master ([phone]:42:05 I just thought of it because i was looking at my dog: midnight Destiny ([phone]:45:16 I didn't mean to hurt feelings I'm sorrryyy😩 Master ([phone]:46:11 Haha i dont care. It would take a lot more than that to hurt my feelings. Destiny ([phone]:46:36 😂good Master ([phone]:47:59 I have a house, a wife, pets, and dont live with my parents. Being old is great :) 19:54:48 So i have given three (albeit terrible) ideas. Somebody else throw something out there. Destiny ([phone]:55:46 Group A Master ([phone]:56:13 We were told that wasnt allowed Destiny ([phone]:56:38 😂😂😂😂it was a joke Master ([phone]:00:10 >.> Ray ([phone]:13:40 So my friend suggested Communicators gone wild. Eh? Master ([phone]:16:08 Cheesy? 20:16:19 And you guys hardly seem wild Destiny ([phone]:16:56 Pleaseeeee then you barely know the half of it Master ([phone]:17:40 Well show us your wild side Destiny ([phone]:17:54 Maybe we should all just say a word that comes straight to mind and then work from that 20:18:10 😂😂you aren't ready for that Master ([phone]:19:07 My word is computer Will ([phone]:31:36 I'm getting lit tonight Master ([phone]:32:25 Alcohol? Drugs? Both?! Destiny ([phone]:33:16 Woooooh we're the fun at 20:33:29 Where's* Will ([phone]:06:46 Yessssss Sunday, August 27, 2017 Master ([phone]:32:41 24 hours to come up with a name Will ([phone]:33:58 ?? Master ([phone]:34:29 For our group. We need a name by tomorrow. Will ([phone]:35:01 Oh I thought you meant you had one,any ideas? Master ([phone]:35:38 I have given four, i am kind of tapped out Destiny ([phone]:36:03 Incognito that's my word Will ([phone]:36:04 Oh Ray ([phone]:25:41 Ya know I'm pretty ok with midnight oil burners. Destiny ([phone]:29:59 Sure Master ([phone]:30:30 Haha it was my suggestion so no argument here Destiny ([phone]:31:57 It's a name Ali ([phone]:33:18 I'm good Makena ([phone]:08:54 I'm good Will ([phone]:25:01 What does it mean Master ([phone]:25:32 You young whipper snappers Destiny ([phone]:26:08 Assuming it's like a candle Will ([phone]:26:27 Lol Master ([phone]:29:20 It is a metaphor meaning to work late into the night Will ([phone]:00:26 Ooh ok Wednesday, September 6, 2017 Will ([phone]:19:05 Yooooo Master ([phone]:19:58 I need work and class schedules from everybody to try to set up in person meeting Destiny ([phone]:22:44 MW in paulding, work Friday 7:45-2 Master ([phone]:23:10 What times m/w Will ([phone]:23:37 I work just about everyday but I don't go in till 430 so the only days I can't meet are on Mondays but I can meet Wednesdays after school 12:23:57 Oh and I go to school at 1 on TR 12:26:04 I've split up the roles we need to cover

Tumblr Video Paper Binder Marketing  (poster) Product Agenda and minutes Destiny ([phone]:26:16 TR I'm in Cartersville from 9:15 or 11:30, and I get out in Tuesday at 1:45 12:26:33 I'll make the product😁 Will ([phone]:26:59 I can do the tech stuff 12:27:00 Tumblr and video Destiny ([phone]:27:10 And I can do the agenda and minutes too Will ([phone]:27:11 So what are some product ideas? 12:27:30 Ok cool 12:29:07 Or I could just do the video if someone else wants to do the tumblr so everyone can get a role Makena ([phone]:33:03 I'm good in the afternoon but I have class until 3:15 on TR Will ([phone]:34:21 Do you wanna do the Tumblr page? Makena ([phone]:37:30 I can Will ([phone]:40:08 Are you cool with that or did you wanna do something else? Makena ([phone]:41:49 I am cool with it Will ([phone]:42:16 Sweet Ali ([phone]:48:10 I I can do the marketing stuff Destiny ([phone]:51:06 Now we just need a product Will ([phone]:55:21 We need someone to do the paper and someone to do the binder 12:55:45 Bryan and ray Destiny ([phone]:56:14 I'm so dang coldddddd 12:56:29 Sos history Will ([phone]:56:54 Rip Destiny ([phone]:57:35 Thanks🙄 Thursday, September 7, 2017 Master ([phone]:46:35 So sine half of you guys didnt give schedules I am just going to throw times and days out and we can try to make it work 14:48:03 It seems from what i have, the best day would be wednesday after comm class. For a second day, maybe sat or sun? Will ([phone]:00:16 Yeah are we thinking early? Master ([phone]:01:27 Early on weekends? Cause i was thinking directly after class wed. I can do anytime on weekends. I also have my own house with extra rooms if we need a place. Ali ([phone]:05:10 I have 2:00 class wed Master ([phone]:05:49 Class ends at 1215. Thats plenty of time to meet Ali ([phone]:06:29 I know I'm just letting y'all know Destiny ([phone]:06:32 I have a class at until 145 after 1215 Master ([phone]:07:31 Well that sucks. We will probably have to rotate times a bit in order to include everybody Destiny ([phone]:07:55 Okay Makena ([phone]:08:06 I have class until 145 after our class Master ([phone]:08:59 Ok, we need our tumblr up asap so we can all post detailed class schedules so i can work this out Ali ([phone]:09:55 Why don't we send when we can meet and something should be the same Master ([phone]:11:40 That could get messy. I would prefer to set up a schedule instead of just people saying they can meet at certain times on certain days. Will ([phone]:14:20 Where are we meeting? Master ([phone]:15:21 On campus would be the most simple solution for weekdays. Just another thing i would like to plan out if anybody has any ideas Ray ([phone]:18:51 Ok so I just got out of class and I'm free whenever after 3 and all day weekends Ali ([phone]:18:00 Can everybody meet some time tomorrow Destiny ([phone]:18:30 I work 745-2 Ali ([phone]:18:58 Okay can everybody do after 2 Ray ([phone]:23:02 Yes Master ([phone]:23:39 I am free all day, where are we meeting? Ali ([phone]:26:14 What's best place for everybody Makena ([phone]:26:45 Yes Destiny ([phone]:27:14 Yea I may be a little late Will ([phone]:35:42 I work at 430 Master ([phone]:43:22 School, my house, park maybe? Ray ([phone]:44:32 School library or somewhere around there sounds good Ali ([phone]:45:33 Y'all want to meet in the courtyard at school ? Makena ([phone]:49:11 Sure Master ([phone]:18:58 Deal Will ([phone]:22:11 Tomorrow at what time? Ray ([phone]:35:28 2 Destiny ([phone]:36:24 I work 45 minutes from there so idek if I should even come what time are y'all gonna be done Ali ([phone]:36:57 We can meet at like 3 Master ([phone]:37:15 3 works for me Friday, September 8, 2017 Master ([phone]:37:43 So 3 today in the courtyard? Ali ([phone]:14:58 Are we meeting today or no Ray ([phone]:15:44 I'll be there at 3 Makena ([phone]:16:32 I'll be there at 3 Destiny ([phone]:23:35 Imma be there idk where the courtyard is tho Will ([phone]:48:18 I won't be there but let me know what all you guys talk about so I can get an idea for the video Ray ([phone]:48:57 I got you Will ([phone]:56:38 👍 Ray ([phone]:00:16 I'm gonna be a few min late. Traffics bad Master ([phone]:18:37 I was actually thinking, our sweater idea would probably be easier/more relatable Sunday, September 10, 2017 Destiny ([phone]:26:57 https://www.facebook.com/VixExploreUS/videos/2000689240168938/ This reminds me of the stranger danger thing Monday, September 11, 2017 Master ([phone]:22:57 Have we figured out the tumblr page yet? Makena ([phone]:29:42 No I emailed Mrs. MacMurdo and she hasn't emailed me back Will ([phone]:30:09 Why did you email her? Makena ([phone]:36:05 Because I made the Tumblr page and I don't know how to get it to you guys is using your number or I link it to you Master ([phone]:36:33 Pretty sure you link it Will ([phone]:36:39 No we just have to search it and follow it Makena ([phone]:36:52 Idk 11:37:58 I'm just confused Master ([phone]:38:29 What is the name of it? Makena ([phone]:39:27 Midnightoilburners Master ([phone]:40:35 I cannot find it 11:48:58 What is your username? Makena ([phone]:54:13 [email protected] Master ([phone]:58:05 Well i sent you an im. I dunno how to work tumblr at all XD Makena ([phone]:59:11 I just got it. It had too load 11:59:43 Everybody else needs to go to the link Master ([phone]:06:47 So you created an account not a blog 12:07:04 We need to create a group blog so we can all post in there Makena ([phone]:07:52 Oh ok Master ([phone]:09:26 I figured it out if you would like me to do it Makena ([phone]:10:22 I just about to go on my computer Master ([phone]:10:58 So you got it? Makena ([phone]:11:51 Yep Will ([phone]:24:10 I still can't find it Makena ([phone]:31:03 It should be on their now because I miss spelled burners Master ([phone]:32:31 What is the link? Will ([phone]:33:34 Still can't find it Makena ([phone]:33:55 [email protected] Master ([phone]:34:52 Thats not it .... Will ([phone]:35:37 No 12:38:23 Do you just want me to do it? Makena ([phone]:41:20 Https://www.tumblr.com/join/msvEzZHdEK Try this 12:46:03 Ya Master ([phone]:46:20 I am in Will ([phone]:46:28 Ok lol Makena ([phone]:47:55 Everybody needs to create your own account 12:48:16 And then follow [email protected] Master ([phone]:59:39 Https://midnightoilburners.tmblr.com 13:00:58 I typed that in wrong 13:02:34 Https://midnightoilburners.tmblr.com 13:02:34 https://midnightoilburners.tumblr.com/ 13:02:44 That should work Will ([phone]:03:57 Yeah Destiny ([phone]:07:57 So I make my own account 14:08:01 Or what Master ([phone]:08:11 Yes Will ([phone]:08:26 Yes Destiny ([phone]:15:59 I think I did it Wednesday, September 13, 2017 Will ([phone]:21:54 Aye y'all add me on snap @thesquillmaster Destiny ([phone]:26:11 Done Will ([phone]:26:57 Ayyye Master ([phone]:27:51 Dont have snap Will ([phone]:28:34 Nooooo Destiny ([phone]:30:48 You gotta get in the loop Master ([phone]:12:05 If i do that, how do i maintain my crotchety old man persona? Will ([phone]:16:11 😂😂😂😂 Thursday, September 14, 2017 Master ([phone]:13:03 So saturday at two? Ray ([phone]:20:34 Yes Destiny ([phone]:20:52 I'll have to let you know Master ([phone]:21:54 Try your best, i was just sayin in general 19:22:15 We never agreed on where though...? Destiny ([phone]:23:31 I may have to work Makena ([phone]:27:43 Yes 20:05:43 Were we meeting at Ray ([phone]:10:20 We can meet at the school again if we have too. They have a pizzeria in town. Makena ([phone]:11:13 Ok Saturday, September 16, 2017 Will ([phone]:50:18 So 2 where? Master ([phone]:16:11 Courtyard Destiny ([phone]:20:24 I hope I can make it Will ([phone]:06:26 How long are we meeting? Ray ([phone]:08:39 Last time was about an hour but it depends on how much we get done. Will ([phone]:09:11 Ok cool,what all are we talking About? We have a product right? Ali ([phone]:13:34 I can't come I have to go to the hospital will y'all let me know what y'all talk about Will ([phone]:13:58 Ok Destiny ([phone]:01:44 I won't be able to make it either, I HAVE to go do something with my mom, I realize I suck😂😂 at this whole agenda thing but I have it wrote down if y'all need a pic Master ([phone]:05:15 Well i still want to get will in on everything. We also need to get started on marketing materials. Who is our marketing director again? Ali ([phone]:07:07 Me Will ([phone]:10:03 I'll be there Master ([phone]:11:36 Ok, we are going to talk about marketing material today since it is a chunk of the work. I will tumblr meeting notes so you can start doling out project ideas and expectations in regards to that Ali ([phone]:14:46 Just let me know I have business cards already that I can make and do a poster Makena ([phone]:38:38 I will be there Will ([phone]:40:35 I'm here Makena ([phone]:41:17 On my way Master ([phone]:44:40 Well ran into a funeral procession so i will be a little late prob Ray ([phone]:45:01 Here 15:00:29 Hey I'm sorry for leaving early. Please keep me up to date on what I missed please Master ([phone]:01:16 You didnt really miss much. Hopefully i can get some notes up tomorrow 15:01:51 We have agreed to meet on wed after 4pm. What times would be good for everybody here? Ray ([phone]:03:15 I'm perfectly fine for 4 Master ([phone]:03:56 As was everybody else who was there today. So ali and destiny? Ali ([phone]:04:35 I'm good with 4 Destiny ([phone]:08:35 I'm off sooooo anytime Will ([phone]:09:18 Wow everyone? Nice Ray ([phone]:10:18 Great Destiny ([phone]:11:29 Yay Wednesday, September 20, 2017 Ali ([phone]:19:15 Are we still meeting today? Ray ([phone]:20:49 I'm still available Destiny ([phone]:34:01 What time are y'all thinking Ray ([phone]:35:25 We said 4 Destiny ([phone]:36:49 Can we meet earlier? Master ([phone]:59:33 I cannot dr appt 14:29:19 Still have not been seen by my dr and its way past time 14:30:25 I may be a little late, traffic is gonna be a bitch Will ([phone]:39:27 Damn Master ([phone]:40:23 Yeah I am pissed. If I show up late they charge me and I dont get to see the doctor. Wish I could charge them. Will ([phone]:40:51 😂😂 Master ([phone]:41:29 I mean, if I could do that I would buy pizza for you guys Destiny ([phone]:42:10 PIZZAAAA😍😍😍 Ray ([phone]:42:10 Lol Will ([phone]:42:41 Lmaooooo Master ([phone]:42:53 Except Will. He probably would want something different Makena ([phone]:52:37 Were we meeting at Master ([phone]:53:02 Courtyard? Ali ([phone]:53:24 I'm already here my class got out early so Ray ([phone]:53:28 As always Master ([phone]:56:14 I have no clue how late I will be :/ Will ([phone]:56:47 You bum Master ([phone]:57:49 Right? Siri says i would be there right on time if I left now, but i have yet to see the doctor Will ([phone]:58:52 Damn,how long is that gonna take? Master ([phone]:05:08 Im out hopefully 10- 15 min late Will ([phone]:06:01 Sweeeeet 15:21:09 It's so hot Ray ([phone]:41:22 Could all pitch in and order a pizza Will ([phone]:43:01 I just ate lmao Destiny ([phone]:53:18 I'm here Master ([phone]:57:19 I am almost in paulding Will ([phone]:05:01 Eta? Master ([phone]:05:47 10-15 16:11:07 Of course i catch every light Will ([phone]:11:35 😂😂 were all here Ray ([phone]:19:40 You sit upon a throne of lies! Will ([phone]:19:59 Yep Master ([phone]:20:09 E in eta means estimated Will ([phone]:20:31 True Master ([phone]:20:47 I am at merchants dr main st light Friday, September 22, 2017 Master ([phone]:23:35 Any word on your schedule Destiny? Destiny ([phone]:24:42 I'm off all weekend idk how or why but whatever Master ([phone]:25:04 So we need a time for tomorrow Destiny ([phone]:26:15 Yea Master ([phone]:29:23 I would prefer evening time cause i am building a foundry tomorrow, but I can meet anytime Destiny ([phone]:38:37 Same but I'd prefer earlier I got plans later Will ([phone]:39:07 Same Ali ([phone]:40:09 Yeah me to Master ([phone]:40:53 Afternoon or morning? I can do anything from 9am on Will ([phone]:41:26 11? Ray ([phone]:49:05 I'm fine with 11 Makena ([phone]:17:14 I get done with work at 12 Ali ([phone]:19:32 I mean can everybody do Sunday Master ([phone]:19:46 We all can its just time Will ([phone]:20:24 I have work Sunday Master ([phone]:21:00 O sunday, yeah saturday is what we need to do so we can film Ali ([phone]:20:59 It seems like we all have something to do at different times tomorrow Will ([phone]:21:40 Yep Destiny ([phone]:24:09 Yea I'd prefer saturday as well Master ([phone]:24:14 It doesnt matter to me too much. I can push plans around Destiny ([phone]:25:21 Earlier tomorrow 11-12 whatever it's all good here Will ([phone]:25:59 Yup Master ([phone]:26:55 We need makenna there and she works to noon Destiny ([phone]:27:26 Okay that's fine too Master ([phone]:27:42 So one? Will ([phone]:28:32 Yes Makena ([phone]:29:39 Yes Saturday, September 23, 2017 Destiny ([phone]:51:09 This is a dumb question but when's the due date for the project so I can put it on the agenda 09:51:14 And what time does our class start Makena ([phone]:52:14 October 2 Master ([phone]:52:17 October 2 and 11am-12:15 Destiny ([phone]:52:47 Thank you Makena ([phone]:52:56 11am Destiny ([phone]:00:44 I need a pic of the logo Master ([phone]:01:16 Ray Destiny ([phone]:03:14 And can you send a pic of last agenda Master ([phone]:03:49 I was gonna type it up after todays meeting Destiny ([phone]:05:08 Okay thank you Master ([phone]:05:20 Np Ali ([phone]:12:53 I need the logo to still Master ([phone]:13:13 Damn you ray! Destiny ([phone]:14:07 Whoever would like for me to share the agenda and minutes, so y'all could proof read send me your student email Will ([phone]:36:56 Everyone still good for 2? 12:37:01 1* Destiny ([phone]:37:24 On my way Makena ([phone]:38:25 On my way Ali ([phone]:40:19 Are we just doing part of the video today Master ([phone]:41:43 Bring any promotional you need to work on or help with too 12:41:56 Its a work day in general Destiny ([phone]:42:31 We're gonna have to use like my key fob today until I get my other one from my moms Ali ([phone]:42:39 Okay well I'm done with the cards all but the logo on them so I can just help whoever else 12:57:18 Is anyone here Destiny ([phone]:57:18 May be a couple minutes late Master ([phone]:58:27 Makenna and I are Ray ([phone]:03:19 I'm sorry but I will not be able to make it today. My 98 year old aunt fell and my family wants everyone here. I'm very sorry Will ([phone]:03:52 Damn Destiny ([phone]:04:15 I'm here 21:01:14 I need the notes from the last meeting Master ([phone]:01:46 Shit, i forgot. Kid started puking when i got home Destiny ([phone]:03:09 It's okay 21:56:50 For the last meeting what day and time was it adjourns 21:56:54 Adjourned Master ([phone]:57:37 Like today? Uhhh 23rd 1:00-1:30 Destiny ([phone]:58:10 No for Wednesday I know the date now but what time did we finding 21:58:12 Finish Master ([phone]:59:08 Did i not put that? 5:10 Destiny ([phone]:59:31 No thank you Sunday, September 24, 2017 Ali ([phone]:23:57 The name of the app is still stranger danger right ? lol I feel dumb Master ([phone]:24:16 It is Ali ([phone]:32:00 Ok thanks 21:47:35 Do we have to make an integral and stuff if we put that on the contact info ? 21:49:33 Image Will, Ali, Ray, Destiny, Makena/attachment1.jpg 21:49:33 Is this okay this is it without the logo Will ([phone]:30:17 Nice Ray ([phone]:41:44 Looks good Monday, September 25, 2017 Will ([phone]:43:06 Where are we meeting? 00:43:14 And what are we doing? Master ([phone]:44:57 Damn man, its freakin late. Bring everything that we need to work on. Ray and i can do the website prob. We NEED that logo. Makenna can bring the poster so we can all review it. Will ([phone]:45:31 Sorry lol Master ([phone]:45:54 What we really need to work on is our in class presentation. I have no clue how that is supposed to go. Will ([phone]:46:18 Oh true 00:47:04 Wanna meet and eat somewhere perhaps? Master ([phone]:47:35 I want to go back to sleep Will ([phone]:48:08 😂😂 ok talk in the morning I apologize Makena ([phone]:20:59 Were are we meeting at Master ([phone]:21:39 Somewhere on campus? Makena ([phone]:28:34 Ok Master ([phone]:25:45 I am at school now and going to the lounge Destiny ([phone]:26:58 I'm in class Master ([phone]:28:20 Just letting you all know. If somebody needs help or wants to get work done Destiny ([phone]:38:52 Where are y'all Master ([phone]:39:18 Student lounge Will ([phone]:39:22 Otw Ray ([phone]:44:04 Almost there Will ([phone]:23:21 Makenna can you invite me to the tumblr? Ray ([phone]:24:09 Image Will, Ali, Ray, Destiny, Makena/attachment2.jpg Makena ([phone]:29:33 www.midnightoilburners.tunblr.com Will ([phone]:30:24 Like to post Makena ([phone]:32:10 Oh ok 12:32:10 Sorry Ali ([phone]:00:40 I still need the logo Tuesday, September 26, 2017 Will ([phone]:03:09 I posted the script but I think makenna has to allow it Destiny ([phone]:09:18 For m/w agenda and minutes I'm gonna do them as just one, if that's okay with y'all Master ([phone]:20:39 No, we have to separate them Destiny ([phone]:24:31 For Monday's and Thursday's agendas time and date, they are literally gonna say the same thing Master ([phone]:26:19 It doesnt matter. She said they have to be separate for every day/meeting Destiny ([phone]:30:42 For me 11:30:45 Fine Will ([phone]:52:02 We need solo cups for tomorrow, Bryan do you have a suit jacket? Ray ([phone]:52:50 I can grab some cups. Master ([phone]:48:17 I do not Will ([phone]:48:53 Button up? Master ([phone]:49:05 I do Destiny ([phone]:49:30 Will go to bed Will ([phone]:49:55 I'm at work 😬 21:50:11 Bring it Master ([phone]:50:21 Its not even 10... but if you guys want we can text in private Destiny ([phone]:50:34 Me too Will ([phone]:50:45 Right Destiny ([phone]:50:48 I'm just kidding calm down Master ([phone]:51:43 Do i need to do the binder? Destiny ([phone]:01:15 Please Will ([phone]:11:51 😂😂 Wednesday, September 27, 2017 Ali ([phone]:44:38 Are we meeting before the time in the classroom Master ([phone]:45:00 I am in the student lounge Will ([phone]:45:27 I'm otw Destiny ([phone]:47:45 We're just hanging in the lounge Master ([phone]:00:15 Where are you ray? Ray ([phone]:00:57 At Kroger. Getting cups. Be there in five Will ([phone]:12:16 We're on the 3rd floor Destiny ([phone]:59:51 What was that process called for the presentation Master ([phone]:17:48 Monroes motivated sequence Destiny ([phone]:34:24 Thank you Thursday, September 28, 2017 Will ([phone]:33:36 Hey can you delete the video script off of Tumblr so I can post the revised one? Makena ([phone]:36:52 I did Master ([phone]:20:31 What time we meeting this weekend? Ray ([phone]:27:17 Saturday again? At 1? Master ([phone]:27:28 Sure Destiny ([phone]:43:12 Idk my work schedule Friday, September 29, 2017 Master ([phone]:37:43 Do we have that work schedule yet? Destiny ([phone]:38:26 I work 10 to 6 Master ([phone]:44:16 Damn.... well is there anyway you could email me the stuff for the binder then? 14:47:50 Ali, what is your full name? I cannot find you on the class directory Ali ([phone]:48:20 Ali brown 14:48:36 What's the order for our names Master ([phone]:48:52 Alexander? 14:49:12 Alexandra Ali ([phone]:49:23 Alexandra Master ([phone]:49:52 You think she wouldbe ok with just ali? Ali ([phone]:50:11 Yeah should be Master ([phone]:50:30 Cool thanks! Ali ([phone]:51:07 Welcome Destiny ([phone]:25:15 Ye I will Email later Saturday, September 30, 2017 Master ([phone]:21:48 Are the rest of us still trying to meet today? Makena ([phone]:47:24 I can after 12 Master ([phone]:48:44 It doesnt really even need to be a meeting if people are comfortable where they are at. I just need everything we have for the binder Makena ([phone]:52:07 Ok Destiny ([phone]:57:36 Can I meet you or will I have time in person before class to give it to you Master ([phone]:58:28 There is no way I am putting the binder together before class Destiny ([phone]:59:28 I was talking about just my papers, ou didn't understand what I'm saying but just let me know what I need to do Master ([phone]:59:58 I thought you were going to email them to me 12:40:58 So are we not meeting then? Ray ([phone]:41:28 I'm going Will ([phone]:41:33 I'm good Master ([phone]:42:14 No point in just us three going unless will needs more help... Will ([phone]:43:06 Nah I'm good the video is almost done lmao Ray ([phone]:44:07 Alright then Master ([phone]:44:13 Ok well fuck it I guess. I need destiny to email me the agendas and minutes. Ali if you can bring cards to class i would appreciate it Ali ([phone]:45:30 Yeah got to have them for class Makena ([phone]:47:07 I got the poster done Will ([phone]:51:06 Nice Sunday, October 1, 2017 Master ([phone]:03:44 I really need those agendas and minutes Destiny ([phone]:14:44 Imma send them Master ([phone]:30:19 Despite impressions I may have made I am a busy person. I agreed to do the binder despite not having time to do it. This means my family does not get to spend time with me while I make sure we all get a good grade. So I am going to ask one more time, please email me the agendas and minutes. Destiny ([phone]:31:12 Send me the email Master ([phone]:31:42 [email protected] Destiny ([phone]:33:10 I mean I haven't even been home around my laptop to get to email them to you so it's not like I'm slacking, I'll try sending via phone but I couldn't figure it out the other day hence why you haven't received them yet. Master ([phone]:35:03 You should of thought of that ahead of time. Lack of planning is literally on the verge of killing this project. Please don't forgot I alone hold about 60% of this project by myself. Destiny ([phone]:35:56 All you did was the paper? Master ([phone]:36:49 Paper website binder. I did half the minutes and agenda for you to copy and paste off a website. Thanks for noticing my contributions though. Destiny ([phone]:36:48 And you said that'll take 7-15 minutes, those agendas and minutes took a whole lot more time then that. Thank you. I'm sending them, calm down. 12:40:57 No problem 16:24:55 They are shared Master ([phone]:27:29 Ok Monday, October 2, 2017 Will ([phone]:01:09 Are we presenting tomorrow? Master ([phone]:01:25 Yes