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navree · 9 months

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Do you think Margaery in the books will have the same fate as in the series? She seems too sly for her own good and there’s really something hypocritical about her

I'm not the best when it comes to theorizing about ASOIAF proper, so there are probably people who can answer this better than me, but I think it's certainly possible.

The books have both done a lot to build up Aerys's hidden caches of wildfire under King's Landing, so we know that, at some point, those are going to come into play. We've also gotten some important stuff surrounding Cersei and wildfire, like when she burns down the Tower of the Hand and how disturbed Jaime (one of only two people alive who knows about Aerys's wildfire plot) felt watching it. So the idea that there's a connection to wildfire, the destruction it can cause in the city, and Cersei isn't out of nowhere. And doing something insanely destructive and so incredibly large scale isn't out of character for Cersei, she's vicious and she believes in might as power above anything else and it seems like the kind of big and insane gesture that she'd do without thinking of the long term consequences, all for the sake of getting rid of her rivals.

I doubt the circumstances will be exactly the same though. Cersei and Margaery are both in pretty different places by the time ADWD ends than they were by the end of season 5, and so they're both gonna be in different places whenever this happens in the books. Margaery isn't the only member of her family accused, for one, and she's accused of much serious crimes than she is in the show (in the show I think her main crime is bearing false witness in connection to Loras's trial, while in the books Loras isn't involved in this at all and is currently dying, which will also affect Margaery, and she's accused of adultery against Tommen with numerous men) for another, and even beyond that, she's already released from the High Sparrow's custody by the time ADWD ends, having been put into Randall Tarly's custody because the case against her is already falling apart. Cersei's also gonna be dealing with different things, because Jaime's not currently on her side anymore, Myrcella is still alive and isn't dead, and she was under some strict house arrest on Kevan's orders before he died, which is absolutely going to cause some upheaval in her life as well as just the realm at large. So while the overall motivations might be the same, the intricacies of it might be different, as well as the process for both Margaery and Cersei to get to that point.

I've never really gotten anything sly or hypocritical from Margaery in the books, at least the way I've read it. I think she's more than just the doe-eyed little thing she presents herself as, and there is absolutely an intelligence and a cunning to her that most people ignore, but even when viewed exclusively through the eyes of other people, the only person who thinks that she's a schemer or devious is Cersei, who is just not very good at reading people, insanely delusional, and also completely blinded by Maggy's prophecy, which drives far more of her actions in the books than it does in the show (it's basically the impetus for nearly everything she does). Margaery's interacted with Tyrion, Sansa, and Jaime in their POVs, not just Cersei, and all of them agree that she's nice, but also intelligent, and definitely has some of her grandmother's steel in her, but not that she's actively playing people false or being a hypocrite. It's more the show that played that up, since it seems D&D decided to take Cersei's interpretation of Margaery at face value rather than, like, understand that Cersei's never had a correct opinion about another person ever in her life.

TL;DR I think it's definitely possible, and there's some clues that point to that being set up, but the circumstances will likely be different in their minutia to account for the way the plot is going in the books, and as well as the fact that Cersei and Margaery are different characters to their show counterparts.

#personal #answered #anonymous #and of course the aftermath would be so much more different than the show #cuz grrm is likely aware that cersei blowing up a major landmark and sacred religious site of a faith most of the country follows #is going to have severe repercussions in the geo-political landscape especially during active war time #which we're going to get with the north and young griff and the gold company and dany

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