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findafight · 1 year

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Why do you (personally) think so many Steve fans loathe the idea of him becoming a dad? becoming a parent is the only dream we know he has, but it's thrown in the trash in most fics. I keep reading about steve being childless by choice, because the party is enough for him, which I really don't get, they're only 4 years younger than him, their relationship is brotherly, not parental, and they have their own parents who raised them. I love found family, but it's not the same as raising children

Oooh. Anon you are so bold giving this to me, a person who has an elaborate studio era lavender marriage au where Steve and Robin just. Get adopted by children who break into their house AND one where Steve becomes brotherdad to his half sister. A person who clearly also doesn't know why people have future!Steve childless. Man attracts kids like the pied piper.

But let me try. I have some ideas.

First off there's less space between Steve and Dustin than me and my little sister, but more than me and my big brother, so I can for sure say, you definitely become more friends less caretakery with your siblings once you/they are not fourteen. Still protective though. Maybe many people writing those don't have close sibling relationships with moderate age gaps? Like, there's a point where you feel comfortable letting your little sibling do mostly whatever, because they're big, but you're not gonna let them get hurt if you can stop it. There's also never a point where you stop looking at your older sibling to help you. That doesn't mean my big brother is like my dad?? It's very different, and that's important!! The Party for sure has a sibling-like relationship with Steve, especially Dustin, and Max, and I'd say Lucas (he has a little sister, but no older sibling, and Steve and Erica are scoops troop bonded so. Bonus brother for Lucas!)(will and Mike have their own older siblings. El and Steve interaction WHEN!!!!) and they all have actual parents. So yeah. Steve has a gaggle of little siblings he'd fucking die for, and his kids are going to have so many uncles/aunts/non-binary sibling of parent (there is no good word for that)

So. I think it's possible that because a lot of people headcanon Steve as queer, that immediately makes "having kids" a bit more complicated given the state of things for queer folk in the 80's. That's fair.

With that, possibly people sort of...transfer Steve wanting kids and a big family to working with kids. Which isn't that big of a leap for Steve! He obviously does well with the Party and Erica, and he canonically worked as a lifeguard, which almost definitely means he taught swimming too! (Small pool def wanted duel certs. Trust me). He likes kids, works well with them, and wants them. These are three things that are separate, but blend well with each other.

However I don't really agree. Obviously being parents was harder for gay/queer people in the eighties, especially men. But it wasn't unheard-of! I think saying that because he's queer and in a relationship with a man in the eighties that he'd have to give up on his dream of being a dad is rude. There would be obstacles but, really, I think Steve would see it as totally worth it.

Another reason I think people don't want to give future Steve kids is. Listen it's been a while since I saw it but. His little speech was pretty embarrassing. Mostly because it was to Nancy. And that he followed up on the way to vecna and said he thought it would be her there too... Literally any other character would have made it not awkward, but because he and Nancy haven't talked about anything other than the upside down since season 2, it was awkward and bad. If it was ANYONE ELSE it would have been so cute (it still kinda is just. Ignore that they tried to give stancy development without actually giving them development) like if Robin was there? If Dustin or Max? Erica? Lucas? Were sitting in that seat, it'd be Steve sharing a dream of a big family he had, trying to lighten the mood, of opening up to people he cared about. They'd tease him, but the implication of him wanting them there as well would be clear and very cute. Adorable.

Because those are characters that don't have the same baggage in their relationship with Steve, but the six nuggets speech was made to Nancy so immediately it's already a bit off for people who want the characters to actually, y'know, talk about the past and move forward from it. Nancy and Steve's relationship is so messy and interesting and if they wanted me to get into actually rooting for it then maybe they should have an actual conversation about it!! And have Nancy break up with Jon before!! Not just half dreams of the future while her bf isn't there!

People also try to use it as saying Steve assumed Nancy would? Just be a Sahm? Or something? When that was never the implication? Maybe Nancy would have interpreted it that way, but I didn't. Steve wanted a big family who spent lots of quality time together having adventures. Six kids is a lot, but I betcha if Steve thought that much about having that many kids and road tripping to the ocean, he was probably imagining being the primary caretaker of those lil nuggs. He was daydreaming about first day of kindergarten and tearing up for real I know it.

Also I think people are cowards if they don't think Robin and Steve would get convenience married and adopt a couple kids even tho Robin is slightly terrified of toddlers (they are fast and they BITE) and Steve would be Robin's trophy husband who's a stay at home dad that wages physiological suburban warfare by being a Wife Guy and the envy of all early nineties housewives.

#stranger things #steve harrington #the party #steve and the party #steddie #stobin #also kinda sorta not actually but just to be safe #anti stancy #findaanswers #finda's rambles #anonasaurus #i love you anon i love you so much #should i readmore this or nah?#six little nuggets #steve just. accidentally acquiring children is actually my favourite thing. thats why it happens in two of the aus i love most lmao #also anon. my love. what fics are you reading there. bc usually i see steve getting to be a parent? or too young #but also have seen some where he isnt i guess. maybe most of the fics ive read are him being young so not ready for kids yet

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saintofawe-ful · 28 days

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hdwr spoilers!!

finally caught up with hdwr after letting it marinate for a WHILE i think the last chapter i read before taking a break was around ch 80??? but i just finished reading ch 113 (and saw some spoilers from ch 117-118) AND MAN DO I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS!!

when i first started seeing miwa and sae get into their new relationships, i was so happy for them because it was nice to see them heal and grow into better people and though i suspected that tamiful might bring miwasae back together, i was so against it. to me, it felt like they were better off as friends and i was scared that mistakes MIGHT be made (as in cheating which was unlikely but you never know so i was still worried nonetheless) but now that i finished catching up with it, i am 100% in support of miwasae endgame.

miwa/tamaki and saeko/yuria were so good and you can tell that they truly did love each other but even though miwa and sae have become more emotionally mature and learned to communicate (something that they learned from their past relationship with each other), sometimes there are differences in relationships that you can't reconcile no matter how much you compromise and that's just how it is.

back when miwa and sae first got together, they had a shit ton of baggage to deal with (miwa hung up on her first love, sae being afraid to open, and just a general lack of communication). they just weren't good for each other at the time so it was unhealthy for them to stay together. breaking up was the right move because it helped them heal and focus on themselves and meet other people.

AND NOW they're back to being single. they were girlfriends and then they were exes and now they're bestfriends. their relationship as friends has really grew into a beautiful bond and i would have been satisfied with that EXCEPT there's still something there. they both learned a lot from their previous experiences and now they're in a better place mentally and emotionally. and they're both single!

ch 117-118 is so cute (only saw some panels) and i'm absolutely sure we're gonna get that emotionally mature miwasae endgame (I'M EXCITED) but i trust that tamiful isn't gonna rush their comeback since they're both fresh from their respective breakups (idk the passage of time in the manga tbh)

it's actually kinda funny how i was against at a potential comeback at first because the truth is, i'm a sucker for exes to lovers romance when it's done right and tamiful is doing a really great job at it. hwdr is just a great manga in general tbh. i've lost my train of thought while yapping so much in this post BUT ANYWAYS i'm looking forward to see miwa and saeko do it right this time around with all the wisdom they've gained throughout their past experiences <333333

#hdwr spoilers #hdwr chapter 118 spoilers #how do we relationship spoilers #tamifull #hdwr #yuri manga #miwasae nation we win #totally unrelated but i stayed up late again so now it's 4:30am for me dsjfhsdhfd i fell asleep for a bit after typing all of this

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