#like the watcher said

[mintbees]

One thing that keeps confusing me is that they claim ghost files costs several hundreds of thousands of dollars per season. I’ve tried to wrap my head around this ever since the announcement because flying a crew of 6 or so people out for two days and renting out the location COULD NOT be costing that much unless they’re either lying or blowing money on first class flights and expensive food/accommodations and even THEN do I not see them breaking 100k on a single episode. Dear lord hire an accountant I’m half convinced someone’s laundering money

#EDIT i said per ep in the og post but it was actually per season #watcher #AND they hire additional local crew for???? reasons unknown to me #are they buying their whole recording setup again every time they fly??? do they each get seperate rooms??? #are they eating fucking caviar every meal like girl WHAT is that money being spent on #hire an accountant please this money is not being managed

[lady-raziel]

idk man i know times are hard but i can't help but feel that watcher putting all their eggs in the basket that is their own streaming service is a bad call. like sure i totally get wanting a platform where you have full control both creatively and financially but i feel they might be misjudging how much loyalty non-hardcore fans might have for what they're creating. in every internet fandom there's a subsection of people willing to pay with actual money to support the creators they enjoy, and that's what services like patreon are for. but to expect that casual viewers will sign up and pay a monthly fee to get access to just watcher content when a large portion of them were likely just watching the content because it was free and accessible on youtube assumes that someone who isn't a diehard fan won't just go "oh well" and find something else on youtube that IS still free? that seems like a miscalculation to me. the massive fanbases online content creators have may literally be only possible because the content is available to anyone-- it seems foolish to assume that every single one of those fans is going to stick around once you try to upsell them.

i hope this new venture goes well for the watcher crew. I really do. but i also know that a lot of brands and startups that bank on the loyalty they earned when their product was free or low cost and expect that to sustain them while they try to do something that historically has not gone well for the vast majority of businesses. at best, they'll have halved their fanbase by alienating those who can't or don't want to pay and made it much more difficult for remaining fans to create fandom products like memes or gifs that promote their shows on social media. at worst, they'll discover in the near future the independent streaming service model is unsustainable with only the fans they have left and by that point they'll have already deleted themselves from youtube and made it impossible to come back to the level of success they had before. any attempt to return to youtube will be an admission of a critical miscalculation and i doubt many remaining fans will tolerate the back and forth. they'll have crippled their credibility, relevancy, and fanbase loyalty over a very short period of time-- and i don't know if it would even be possible to come back and still be beloved after all that.

worst of all-- if the watcher streaming service crashes and burns after they've already removed all their content from youtube, all the watcher shows are essentially going to become lost media, only accessible via reuploaders willing to risk a copy strike or if you know someone who has a copy downloaded. given how genuinely good the watcher content is in the sea of lackluster youtube mush, that really seems like a damn shame.

i hope the watcher team sees how everyone is responding and decides to course correct before it's too late and get away with only the hit to their reputation that they've already taken by announcing this, instead of pushing forward on a path that might lose them everything instead. nothing i've said here is with any hate intended toward anyone involved or those who are excited about the new service, but this just seems like a really ill-advised decision to me.

#watcher #watcher tv #i'm not really mad or sad and like i said none of this is said with ill intent #but yeah i think they should have market tested this idea first

[theminecraftbee]

god okay. keep in mind i didn't watch evo. but if we're doing stuff with watchers in traffic series. and we're doing the "jimmy is cursed to be the one that dies first to warn everyone else that it's time to die" thing. don't you think we should also do something with the fact that, if i remember right, the watchers canonically just Absolutely Fucking Despised jimmy? like, didn't they outright ditch him between updates at one point (and that's how he met the listeners)? wasn't that a thing? i could be mixing my lore up but i SWEAR that's a thing,

#anyway i think this is a funny contrast with the watchers as us the audience #also as i said. i haven't watched evo this is like thirdhand knowledge #i just also think its REALLY FUNNY and in the theoretical future where i write a watcher fic this WOULD be included

[journal-number-3]

Look man this isn't entirely Stevens fault and he's definitely unfairly getting most of the grief for this but man it's just not a good look to have your audience of broke college kids pay for you to film a show about going on vacation and eating stuff covered in gold. During a recession. While owning a Tesla. 😐

#watcher #like i said. ryan and shane deserve equal blame and people are being really cruel to steven #but man i get why people would see all this and come to the conclusion that hes the villain here

[ravxe3n]

quick low effort post because i can

professor morris ashley with brown hair and blonde roots because i headcanon him to be a natural blonde (he constantly dyed it brown back in 2007)

#if anyone would like to know more about my professor morris ashley lore then ill maybe make a post about it #i gave him a buddy and everything #said buddy is based off of ryan #his buddy's name is mr diaz :) him alongside professor morris ashley are teachers #prof ashley is a science teacher #mr diaz is a gym/p.e. instructor #oh also professor ashleys real name is samuel i hope thats helpful (it isnt but im providing you with that information anyway) #professor morris ashley #watcher #watcher entertainment

[lemondoddle]

cackling

[I.D. three screenshots of ghost files where shane gestures to a mattress and says "-youre not responding to the fact that she said mattress when you walked up to the mattress. what are you fucking high?" end I.D.]

#lane speaks #THIS PART WAS SO FUNNY 😭😭😭😭 #shane was trying SO hard to get ryan to understand how solid that evidence was but he could not be wavered fghkjhgkj #like even shane's little 'UH 😨' when the ovilus said mattress bc even HE COULD TELL that's a wild coincidence #but ryan was too busy making weed jokes jhfgdsjgkj #ghost files #watcher #ghost files spoilers #i guess

[corallapis]

DOCTOR: He'd see me dead tomorrow. MASTER: Gladly, Doctor. [looking to the Valeyard] But I'm not prepared to countenance a rival.

#the master #the watcher #the valeyard #beevers!master #fourth doctor #roberts!master #eighth doctor #the dream lord #eleventh doctor #dhawan!master #ainley!master #fifth doctor #dw #classic who #dwedit #* #doctor x master #anybody else picking up what i'm putting down? #the rival line is perhaps one of the craziest the master's ever said. #like. i consider myself in competition with your shadow. my role is the part of YOU you keep hidden & i won't let him (you) take my place. #and adric mistaking the watcher for the master and four not correcting him... all time.

[storybookstr4nge]

i am seeing all of the criticism of watchertv (and agreeing of course - it's entirely tone deaf and un-conducive among other things) but i feel as though the attitude i am seeing from a lot of people online involve absolving shane entirely, saying things like, "shane blink twice if they made you do this!" "shane "eat the rich" would never allow this!" "he was forced into this!" and redirecting all of the blame unto ryan and steven - mostly steven - saying that steven is the "ned fulmer of watcher" (wild thing to say) and delegating the responsibility of this decision entirely onto the two of them, and i cannot help but feel like there is an undeniable racial undertone to this rather vitrolic pivot. i understand being a fan of shane - i myself was a proud shaniac! - but i plead that we be conscious about woobifying an adult man who - though could have very well opposed the decision - was still one of the three ceos who okayed it! nothing is gained from scapegoating the two asian men and relinquishing the white one for the hate that this business venture is garnering. please, by all means, continue to criticize, but if you are, do it tastefully, and be careful with insinuations - especially without knowing the intricacies of the situation (and even if/when we do know something. criticism should never come from veiled bigotry) ! just because the property itself is shifting rather horribly doesn't mean we as watcherinas need to turn our community toxic <33

#watcher #shane madej #ryan bergara #steven lim #watchertv #watcher entertainment #just. feel like people should be careful with this #this being said i really am grieving though #parasocial bond SEVERED #cries

[littlekingbergara]

was just thinking about how amazing it is that weird wonderful world and ghost files exist at the same time from the same company. you have the same minds, the same hosts, the same team and yet the shows are like day and night. www reminds us of the wonder and whimsy and joy all around us while ghost files showcases the world's darker side in its tragedies and horrors. and that they're able to execute both shows each with its own finely-tuned aesthetic and its own little universe is really a beautiful display of how much Talent and Love exists at watcher and it's so so special.

#i just picked out these two shows but the same could be said for so many others. that they even have so many to choose from is incredible. #really the show/season format of watcher is genius and they are so smart for thinking of that. #it lets them have so much variety in their content without getting themselves trapped in a box like they were at bf. #they can still hold onto the Ghoul Boys Spooky Vibe but also let their more lighthearted and wholesome sides show. #to borrow from miles. they are both spooky And cookie. #and it's cool to see other channels like the try guys pick up on the success of that and build it into their own channels in a way that's #not too different from what they were doing before. #grateful for it all. i love them and i love this community so much and i'm soso excited to see where we all go next. #watcher #weird wonderful world #ghost files #ahtw #ri.txt

[sneakingpasta]

can’t believe y’all bullied a company so hard they had to rethink their business model😭😭😭😭😭The boogaras and shaniacs go for the jugular when united huh

#Watcher #watcher entertainment #ghoul boys #that like to dislike ratio was speakingggg #Shaniacs #boogaras #glad they made the changes though #those comments were something else man #buzzfeed unsolved #shane madej #ryan bergara #steven lim #Shaniacs and boogaras and the professor’s students broke their golden tower down realllll fast #Anticapitalist audience caught wind and said “not in this economy”

[thehecklingmouse]

Listen guys I get that the new watcher news sucks and is awful, I hate it too, but I think some people are overreacting, just a little bit. The pivot to streaming is absolute bullshit and, objectively, a bad move but you don't need to scorn everything they've ever made just because they made a stupid decision. Ryan, Shane, and Steven are human beings trying to grow their company and they've made a bad bussiness desicion. They are not devils and everything they've ever made is not suddenly bad, they're just idiots, and sometimes, it's okay to just be an idiot.

#ive seen some people say that theyre going to delete everything on youtube and....no #i sat down and watched the video and its a little unclear but they never said that lol #they did say they will put season premieres on youtube so theres that #honestly im just a little baffled on how this desicion got past literally anyone. how did anyone approve this. #there were so many better decisions to make. what happpened. did being a ceo break stevens brain #like i wish them all the best and i understand wanting to rely less on advertisers but wtf man #watcher entertainment #watcher #ryan bergara #shane madej #steven lim #bones screams into the void

[bitching-barista]

I think that all the stuff with Watcher wouldn’t have been as big of a deal if the fans had been happier with the content that they’ve been producing. I mean it’s no secret that the amount of views on their videos haven’t been great, especially for an operation as big as theirs that had such a huge fan base. I think it felt so ridiculous and like such a betrayal to so many people because most people haven’t been happy with their content for a while now and have only been watching because they wanted to support them.

Part of the problem was the blindly positive nature of that support. Like I’ve noticed (and been guilty of it myself) that most of the watcher fans were hesitant to give them any critiques or constructive criticism because we trusted them and didn’t want to make them feel bad.

Saying they were going to make new content and doing a whole countdown clock got people excited and made them think maybe they were finally getting out of their slump. When they announced their paywall instead it kind of popped the seal on all of the criticism and unhappy feelings that people had been holding back for a while now. I think if the fans had been completely happy with what watcher was making, then the paywall would still have been annoying and frustrating, but more people would have been understanding about it or at least had a calmer reaction to it

#watcher #watcher entertainment #ryan bergara #shane madej #steven lim #No one ever said “hey bud this part of your video that you’ve been doing isn’t really working” so sometimes they kept doing them even more #I love puppet history but the lore got exhausting to me and I ended up not wanting to watch it anymore #I feel like the lore could have been separate extra content for patreon

[that-other-dead-person]

(Mini) Ceaseless Watcher vs Everchase who wins

#skibidi toilet #skibidi toilet oc #skibidi toilet fanart #skibidi oc #skibidi fanart #oc everchase #oc ceaseless watcher #what if i said Ceaseless Watcher doesnt commonly act like this (to the ones that havent seen me act Normal in Discord....../silly) #Anomaly Report

[softpine]

can i just word vomit for a min...

there was a point in late 2023 where i felt like i overstayed my welcome on simblr and i planned on just wrapping frozen pines up as quickly as possible and moving on. continuing to write when it's clear that the audience for it is dwindling felt so embarrassing that i almost didn't even want to put effort into it anymore, because i was afraid it just looked pathetic (obligatory disclaimer: no one made me feel this way, you're all so lovely, it's just the nature of seeing a community change over 7 years). writing already feels very personal to me and it's becoming increasingly harder for me to put my work out there (again, for reasons unrelated to simblr and entirely related to mental illness 🤙🏻). i know my story is so long that it deters new readers, and so sporadic that it makes old readers drop off with time. this has really been bothering me lately because i don't know what i can do to fix it. i don't think there IS anything i can do.

but. okay. don't make fun of me for saying this. dan and phil returning to youtube kinda changed my mindset? they may be pulling a fraction of the views they got in their peak, but they're happier than they've ever been and they're working on things they actually want to do, not things they think will be particularly popular. seeing that has made me realize that it is possible to keep finding joy in a community that has largely moved on without you. obviously my little blog is nowhere near the same scale, so this feels kind of silly, but i've been thinking about all the things i used to do on simblr that were never fun for me, i mainly did them because i knew they would get notes or because i felt like i had to do it. making cc, lookbooks, sim requests, reshade help (oh my god the reshade help), lot downloads, etc. they DID get notes, but i can't imagine spending my time doing any of that stuff ever again tbh.

on top of that, it makes me sad to scroll through my dash and realize that i don't recognize most of the people i see anymore. i still talk to some wonderful people here who i consider friends and that's invaluable to me (💖), but the broader community aspect is something i no longer feel a part of. and believe me, i know i'm at fault here because it's not like i'm going out of my way to talk to new people or participate in trends like i used to. i don't blame anyone except the passage of time!!

frozen pines, and simblr by extension, played such a gigantic part in my life when i needed it the most. and that's not to say that i don't still care about it, because i absolutely do, but it's a different kind of feeling. i've always promised that i would give frozen pines a satisfying conclusion rather than silently abandoning it someday, and though i do intend to keep that promise, i know it's possible that i might never get there. but i don't want to let my own insecurities get in the way of something i really enjoy doing. writing is an intrinsic piece of me that i'll never quit doing, but sharing my writing on tumblr is something that can't (and shouldn't) last forever. i know that. but i'm going to enjoy it to the fullest while we're all still here together 💞

to anyone who's still reading my silly story after all these years (especially those of you who still check in on my blog even though you're not on simblr anymore): thank you thank you thank you THANK YOUUU. you don't have to change a single thing about what you're doing. this is not me fishing for compliments or putting down an ultimatum, this is just me trying to make sense of my feelings.

but with all this being said, i've decided to quit simblr and start my own exclusive streaming service for $60 a year, i hope you'll all support me as i increase my production value 😌

(just kidding. ily. okay that's all)

#to be 100% clear this is not a goodbye - i'm literally halfway done with the next story post #just sort of an update on the state of my brain #👍🏻 #btw...... sorry to Watcher fans lmaoo you guys really got the short end of the parasocial relationship stick..... </3 #that's not relevant to anything i've said here i've just spent way too much time thinking about how youtube has changed in the past 20 year #because i'm a loser that got really into youtube when i was 11 and never looked back #and then the watcher thing happened. and i was like ohhh if dan and phil did that to me i would have to die about it.

[time-wondroustime]

one thing I haven't seen anyone say about watcher yet, but has really disappointed me, is that only three months ago they mentioned in the truth about filming ghost files video that they had to let go of 5 (if I'm remembering the number properly) employees. and when I watched that video I was disappointed that hey hadn't planned the business properly to avoid things like that, but they are primarily creatives, so I figured there would be some business mistakes made along the way. but then hearing they just hired the 2 worth it guys and are reviving an expensive show... I feel like they could've prevented the lay offs better

#watcher #i know they said steven's more business-minded but as someone who did their schooling in business i have constantly questioned their choices #they have just consistently made bad start-up decisions #just the firing and then hiring in such close time really irked me because (and im not saying this is reality) #it seemed like they freed up part of their budget with that to bring their friends back #idk it's just disheartening to see #i wish i could keep looking at with them being unaware and making bad business decisions but there's a point where they gotta know better #and i know everyone is dogpiling on steven but i don't think a lot of these decisions made without at least one of the ghoul boys agreeing #:/ #i feel like they never really went through the bootstrapping phase and that is integral for the majority of start-ups #for at least 5 years - cause most start-ups don't start making money until after that point #this became a whole separate rant in the tags whoops

[nalivaa]

what is ryan bergara doing in a marvel movie

#i talk a lot <3 #marvel #watcher #i actually said 'wait is that ryan' out loud in the theater lmao #i didn't expect it but like. good for him ig akdjsks