I wanted to vent, but also ask an honest question. Since I was a teenager, I always wanted to work on character design. And one thing that always caught my attention was how I always preferred male character designs over female ones. My first thought was that I was always more into androgynous fashion and more masculine styles. But time passed and I came to the conclusion that it wasn't just that, and it seems that male characters can always be different things: fat, thin, handsome, ugly, short, tall, young, old, etc. and female characters, for the most part, fall into two categories: cute or sexy. I wanted some tips on how I can make female characters with more interesting designs, without having to fall into those two categories. I love your work and you managed to make someone else like the three musketeers <3<3
Hello ! That's definitely a good question and something I think about a lot. The bias towards beauty is very strong in character design and it takes a conscious effort to diversify output in that regard.
That sort of advice might be a bit obvious, but one habit I picked up from the director on my first feature film gig was to actually "cast" characters. Without reference, we tend to go for the kind of symmetrical face and "average" features mostly out of stylistic habit. I like to look at character actors with distinct faces (I like this pinterest page that has a lot of faces in one place) but also just acquaintances or pictures of random crowds.
When designing a character, at first I'm always building a big reference board trying to decide what Type of Guy (gender neutral) I'm going for, trying use photos rather than other people's art, because I want to rely on automatics and graphic symbols as little as possible. Whether I'm designing a man or a woman or other, I use references of fashion styles and people across the board in terms of gender so I keep the scope open. Sometimes a character ref board for me will be a picture of one of my aunts next to a bunch of screenshots of Columbo.
In my experience, a lot of the times, it's mostly about going with styles and archetypes the same way you would for a male character, and switching it up somewhere along the way by looking at real women in your life and beyond as a grounding mechanism. Sometimes that will mean changing almost nothing, because the borders between genders and how you characterize them is blurry and fluid, and sometimes it will mean using features that are uniquely tied to some sort of female experience.
I enjoy realism and I think getting more proficient at it did help me diversify my designs (I find that more difficult to do with more minimalistic styles). Still, I am mostly a fantasy artist and in my case that comes with some amount of stylization and idealization of shapes and looks. I'm far from perfect in my biases and I'm not going out of my way to draw "ugly" characters because that doesn't mean much to me ; I try to draw inspiration from the faces of every day people and I associate it with my love for fashion. It's also worth noting the work I post here for fun is a lot more hash tag aesthetic than the stuff I do professionally where diversity is much more important.
I don't know if any of that is relevant but that's definitely an interesting topic ! I'd love to know others' perspective and tips on the matter.
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Okay, by this point I'm tired
A little bit of my thoughts on some situation, that one, by my surprise, that is still going and i see it like some hell of the ride
My discussion going to take places around one person /I'm not going to name them/
I met this person online while drawing in magma, and i thought/and still think/ about them as a fun to talk to and draw with
Let's be honest - we drew some NSFW stuff /in closed magma sessions/
At some point they revealed that they’re turning 18 and not 19.
After this everyone suddenly went into rampage mode/again, this is how i see the situation, you can have your own opinion on that/
Some people, like me, didn't care about their age, if they're fun to communicate with, I don't really think about how old they are
But other audience...well, some said that they're just disappointed, and i understand, they have their own reasons
But there were people who started anonymously or even openly harass this person
Let's be honest - nobody is going to sue you
You didn't know their age when you interacted with them. The fact that they were hiding their real age is their responsibility, not yours
Second of all - once they will turn 18 nobody is going to care or call the police. As if police would want to get involved in something like this
Okay, now to the point
On insta some other day i saw a couple of people posting in their stories "don't talk to this person" and sharing this person’s account
By this point i was so tired of seeing all of this happening, and I don't want people harassing one person because of one mistake they made, and, again, they admitted they were wrong, they’re already paying the price. Of course this doesn't mean that people will suddenly forgive them, but again, does this age stuff really matter when you just chatting?...
Anyway, i texted one person that posted this on insta, expressing my opinion that they shouldn't probably share this person's account, because let's be real, it can encourage more harassment, it even looks like harassment when you post stuff like this with some rude comment about this person
They replied to me that they weren't trying to harass anyone, just wanted to make sure that other people won't get involved in some weird stuff this person causing
. . .
What?
I then saw that they also shared in the story that they have proofs
I asked for these proofs, they send me some screenshots of conversation with another person, who told that the person this whole situation is about not only hid their true age
Is also a t-cest shipper...
//a VERY heavy sigh//
I'm sorry...wHaT?
In this message i saw they were writing about this person following the artist that loves drawing t-cest, not only turtles, but April, Casey Jr and etc and etc
. . .
So like, we can't now like just the drawing style of artist? If they have some strange thing that we don't agree with, we should just ban this person
I still don't see people leaving, for example, fnaf fandom because creator hates lgbt
I still don't see people leaving the fandom of attack on titans because it’s chief editor killed his wife
And i still don't see people leaving hazbin hotel fandom knowing how shady vivziepop has been throughout many years, accused in drawing ped**hilia and z**philia
And wow, people still follow these fandoms and people just because they like what they’re doing.
They don't need to follow artist's ideas or thoughts just to like what they draw or make
And, somehow, we came to a point where the person this post is about is accused in being a t-cest artist basically without proof. Just because someone somewhere told something about that they think they saw. Just baseless words.
How about if I tell you that I am a huge unicorn with rainbow hair and i live in a big castle with butterflies as my servants –
Do you believe it without any photo proof? No, I don’t think so.
I’ve been drawing with them for months. I never saw anything remotely close to anything they’ve been accused in.
I follow their every account I know of.
And again, i didn't see any of this stuff -
I now think, that people are trying to make this person to be seen by others as a black sheep.
And now, I even think about stopping to interact with anyone in ROTTMNT fandom.
Why? Well because of people’s hypocrisy and egoism, how easy they’re ready to give up and turn their backs on a person because of one mistake.
Did the story of Alek Holowka didn’t teach us anything? Or recent story with Ed Piskor? Are you really forgetting that you’re talking about and with a real human beings? Or you just simply don’t care?
I'm getting sick of this -
P.S. again, this is my opinion on things, you can have your own thoughts on the situation
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