#like the snake (forgot the name) venom and harumi bringing back Just the evil parts to take into account for too? which like it doesnt make

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i feel like the stuff with lloyd and garmadon is really complicated and i looked in the tags for a couple minutes and i keep seeing people being like. making it like one extreme end of a situation or the other and tbh i dont like or get it-

#like. idk how to make this make sense but like... i feel like given how the show has gone there isnt a way to make this either 'garmadon is #terrible and stuff' or 'lloyd is terrible and stuff'?? like theres just so much to like everything that happens #and i keep seeing people trying to go Entirely one way or the other and i just dont think it works well here?? #like garmadon fucked up with being not there a lot in lloyds life and then. whatever the fuck s8-10 was. but at the same time theres stuff #like the snake (forgot the name) venom and harumi bringing back Just the evil parts to take into account for too? which like it doesnt make #it less Bad but also i think when we have stuff like how he was in s3-4 and like how much he was trying to keep lloyd out of harms way in #like s1-2 i cant agree with the idea that hes like Entirely bad or a terrible parent?? like theres a lot going on here #and then with lloyd hes like. a traumatized kid with abandonment issues. i dont blame him At All for how he reacted in crystalized and #stuff. like again traumatized kid with abandonment issues and also tbh it really feels in this show like every damn time he starts to work #through an issue or something bad that happened the show throws a New thing at him or just brings up the Old stuff again so hes like #constantly never getting a break. and so OF COURSE he reacts negatively to garmadon showing up when last several interactions were well.... #yknow. s8-10. and then plus theres stuff like 'his dad literally died and then got revived and that whole situation was upsetting in #general for lloyd' (which like. it was like 2ish seasons between 5&8 im not sure if he even would've fully dealt with what happened in #that time frame? could be wrong but still) and just tldr hes not react well to this #(also i have a lot of thoughts on lloyd i could go on about him forever) #but also like i dont think he like.... doesnt care about garmadon?? like i dont think he like Hates Him or anything?? like he clearly doesn #feel as positively as he did Before but like i dont think he Hates him?? if any of that made sense #and then theres shit like the green ninja prophecy and the way its like destiny itself wants lloyd and his family members to just #Fucking Suffer all the time and just- idk i just think its really complicated and trying to simplify it down to like. 'garmadon is terrible #or 'lloyd hates him' or 'garmadon didnt do anything wrong here' or 'lloyd is being too mean' just. doesnt work well here?? #though also i do like to think that after the show they're able to work on things and maybe be on good terms again?? idk the show ended on #a positive note and i just want them to be okay again - im very invested in these two if you cant tell - and i just feel like theres #potential for that there yknow?? but like it'd take work and i cant say that there isnt Issues Going On that HAVE to be worked through #because there ARE #.....ok i went on much longer of a tag rant than i expected i need to shut up now #ninjago spoilers