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#like pbatmb mobi-wan but not evil
tennessoui · 11 months
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a flavor of modern au obi-wan that does not get talked about enough: just. an asshole. rancid power dynamics between him and anakin, who is probably some shade of off limits (an employee, a friend’s kid, an intern, a student). nothing valued is here....this place is not a place of honor etc etc. he’s probably rich. not dark or evil but definitely not a great guy. creates the daddy issues anakin didn’t have before emphasis on daddy but also emphasis on issues
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tennessoui · 2 years
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I was reading back through the pbatmb tag and saw the post about Anakin playing nice with the other trophy spouses and now I can’t stop thinking about some contrivance that leads to Anakin lowkey teaching the trophy spouses some basic self defense, bc You Never Know when you might get kidnapped as leverage against your politician spouse. And they all end up bonding over it and Anakin makes some Actual Friends for once. (I know I stole this idea from some movie but Force knows which one)
ahh this is so nice but i don't think anakin would know what to do with a friend if he ever actually managed to a) convince someone to be his friend and b) want to do that. kid has mad unhinged energy and also i feel like pretty bird anakin sees the world as Family (Affectionate) and Not Family (Derogatory). He's satisfied with only Family, and i don't think that's even a result of him being with Obi-Wan. I think he's just...born like that. He only ever cared about Ahsoka before meeting Obi-Wan, and I'm sure his mother was like that for him before she died.
In the same way, Obi-Wan sees the world like Family (Tolerant), Pretty Bird (Worshipful), and Not Family Or Pretty Bird (Derogatory).
so what can a new friend give to either of them that they cannot just get from Rex, Cody, Ahsoka, Boil, Waxer, Jesse, Jax, Slick, etc etc? vapid conversation? genuine compassion? overrated and sickening. due to their personalities and personal histories, obi-wan is much, much better at playing nice with anyone and everyone because he's cold and calculating and he sees people as things to use that would be useful for him and his plans. Anakin sees people as...a distraction from boredom most of the time. Maybe a means to an ends. Certainly not a project worth investing his time or attentions towards.
obi-wan says his time and attentions are very, very valuable, and anakin agrees.
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tennessoui · 3 years
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I'm a huge fan of your prompt fills + the pretty bird posts!! if you're willing though, I do have a question. Reading through all the PBATMB stuff, it feels like you're not into having other characters be important to mobi-wan and anakin? like padme or the unnamed student of anakin's, and I don't get why from a story-telling perspective? shouldn't new characters be introduced to keep the story going?
hey!!! so i read this at a gas station last night and then thought about it for like. two and a half hours because i want to give you a good answer because this is an interesting, valid question. (this is going to be a long rambly answer though just btw)
so two things you gotta understand about what i love most about AUs of canon + how I write Obikin.
First, the thing I love most about AUs (mob aus, pirate aus, modern aus, canon divergence aus etc etc) is that i like that it's basically saying: "these two characters are so important to each other that their relationship transcends their setting. they'd have strong feelings for each other no matter what the rest of the context of the story is." i love that. I love that that's implicit in every AU ever.
And second, I've talked about this a ton (usually in tags or ask answers) but my favorite Obikin is the kind where they're just so obsessed with each other that there's no room for anyone else romantically in their lives. A lot of my stories have pining/mutual idiots in love/obliviousness as a major plot factor, but in all of them, once they realize they love each other and are loved in return, yeah!! it's over for them!!! in my mind theyre together f o r e v e r
one of the things that made me start writing PBATMB was because I was really interested in playing with that idea of mutual obsession. I think there's honestly healthy mutual obsession (though it probably definitely isn't called that) where they just love each other so much (Keeping Up With The Skywalker-Kenobis for example, where they're in love and get married but they have friends and kids and colleagues)
but I really wanted to explore unhealthy, extreme mutual obsession. so I chose an AU where some aspects of the characters (Obi-Wan's need for control and Anakin's anger/violence) could be explored in a world that's dark and twisted and operating just outside of the law. That sort of setting let me really explore and heighten the strong canon connection between obikin. and i really wanted to push it towards unhealthy, towards extremes, on the opposite end of the spectrum from KUWSK.
Even Use My Body To Break Your Fall, while heavily leaning towards unhealthy mutual obsession, falls short of PBATMB. Sith!Obi-Wan dials back and changes his behavior because of Civilian!Anakin's attachment to the people around him.
But in PBATMB, they don't need anyone else because they have each other. Sure, they came into the story with family (Ahsoka for Anakin and Cody(&Rex) for Obi-Wan) and that's respected, but they have each other now. they're each other's often highest priority and obsession. It's cloying, it's terrible, it only works because they're both equally terrible. In different ways of course, but in my mind their first and primary characteristic is that they're in love with each other to the point of absolute insanity.
So there can't be a Padmé for Anakin. He wouldn't want one. He doesn't need friends (and I don't think any Padmé of mine would become friends with PBATMB!Anakin. She's too smart. Something's just off enough about him). There's no Bail or Quinlan Vos for Obi-Wan. He doesn't need them. He wouldn't want them.
I'm not really into the idea of them showing people genuine kindness, not outside of their immediate circle of family (like not killing someone). I'm just honestly not sure if they're capable of it. Yeah they can fake it, but I don't think they'd be able to genuinely inconvenience/risk themselves for someone else, someone who will never mean as much as they do to each other.
And honestly that's probably really hard for a lot of people to read at this point, because there's no upward growth. They're terrible. They remain terrible. Anakin would do terrible things to ensure his and Obi-Wan and their family's safety. Obi-Wan would do the same. From the beginning, I've been trying to write a story about people who are terrible. Borderline evil but genuinely in love. I wanted to see if I could. I like what I've come up with, but I do understand why some people might feel like it's just the same thing over and over again and I 100% respect that.
#asks#PBATMB#wow this is so long im sorry#i hope it at least makes sense @anon#what i didn't mention but what i always find interesting#is that so many of the asks i get for PBATMB seem to come with the implicit pov#that anakin is somehow more sane or more normal than mobi-wan#i always like those asks but i'm always afraid im answering them wrong when all i can think to say is#'he's just as bad!!! he's terrible!! evil!! his fighting name is vader!!! he kills people and pretends hes vader#so he doesn't have to deal with the emotions!!! yes obi-wan made it worse by giving him the job to kill more people#but anakin was going to snap soon anyway!!! he was beating people up for money under the same name palpatine gave him!!!#he seemed more normal in the very first chapter of PBATMB i'll give u that#but even then he isn't completely and he devolves!!!!'#i think thats much more interesting in my mind and definitely for me to write#and it definitely makes the relationship more equal power dynamic wise which is really important to me#i don't want anyone to be the victim#i want both of them to just equally be insanely into each other past the point of all reason and saving#thats the extreme mutual obsession at the heart of PBATMB#i remember when i first started this au and i had the idea to make anakin have a dark past and not just a civilian#i was like 'well i can do an au maybe where anakin's a civilian if people like that idea better'#but its been a few months now and i cannot do that anymore not to my PBATMB anakin he deserves to keep being feral#he deserves to be just as terrible. as a treat.#everything would be messed up if he was a civilian
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tennessoui · 2 years
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finally a pbatmb au where obi-wan is the one being manipulated
lmao i think it's very in character for these versions of cody and mobi-wan to take turns trying to manipulate the situation around them and cody's got way ahead here, but mobi-wan will come back
also i think its very funny that both of them just mostly manipulate anakin to get at the other and anakin's like 'omg im great at manipulation look at me go! im so evil and sneaky!!!!'
and both cody and mobi-wan just pat his head like 'yes pretty bird wow you're sooooo good at manipulation'
anakin's got a kiddie level chess set with half the pieces meanwhile obi-wan and cody are playing multi dimensional chess
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tennessoui · 3 years
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Lmao, Hades!Vader judging PBATMB Obikin when they die- where would he put them?? Would Persephone!Obi-Wan intercede on their behalf (like Orpheus) or want to immediately condemn them to Tartarus himself bc …. They’re Evil™️
mobi-wan (big wide eyes, realizing he looks scary like king of hell's wife and wanting to process that later, act on it now): every bad thing i did.....i did for love <3
hades!anakin (weak in the face of a mortal that looks so much like his beloved): uh...i...well....you did a lot of bad shit before you met him--
mobi-wan: haven't you ever done a bad thing in the name of love? 🥺
persephone!obi-wan: yes, husband, now that i'm thinking about it, have you ever done a terribly awful thing because of love? i know there's something...i just can't put my finger on it....
hades!anakin (stuttering, flushing): obi-wan please...not in front of the mortals.....
pretty bird!anakin: i think 🥺we deserve 🥺eternal happiness actually 🥺 on the grounds that we weren't as bad as we could have been 🥺i'm so jealous you two will get to be together forever, i only wish my husband and i could do the same.....
persephone!obi-wan: oh he's adorable look at him let's give them a pass just this once.
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