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urwendii · 5 months

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Valarin word part 12/?

i havent worked on my Valarin conlang in months so I'm rusty but my dear @helenvader asked me for a Valarin word for the imperative "Heal".

No surprising it is that you do not find any early root for such a word, and it makes sense in-universe wise:

in a perfect world - that is in a world Unmarred the concept of healing would not need to exist. I tried a few variant but ultimately decided to go back to the closest word we have for such concept and lo and behold, we do have something to use in official Valarin.

-> Amanaišāl = Unmarred

now all i did was to append the early primitive √NĀ root (the copula for "to be / exist"). Nā or Á na in its imperative form.

so we can have something like 'Be Unmarred' for the literal translation of Heal! in its imperative form.

-> Á nāmanaišāl

fun facts:

early primitive elvish has the root √ŊAHYA (with a 'ŋaı̯' variation) meaning : hurt, grieve that you can find in Amanaišāl under its variant form. It might be coincidences since the Valarin word for marred is Dušamanūðān which share no similarities. Go figure.

#lang: valarin #valarin is a strange language indeed #also mandatory disclaimer for my new followers: this is my own hc / conlang. it might not be accurate. it might be wrong.#im not even a linguist im just sharing that divine nonsense ;)

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urwendii · 1 year

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There's something about Mairon being named Mairon is that it is an elvish name, in A Name for the Dark Lord by Helge Fauskanger it's debated that since Mairon is a Quenya name [based on the word Maira (Q) = “admirable, excellent, precious, splendid, sublime” ] it could have been given by the Elves when he was still in Valinor. This of course is in one of Tolkien's earlier experimentation with Sauron's earlier career in a timeline the Maia would have lived amongst the Elves in Valinor before joining Melkor. That we know was then abandoned.

If you know me, you know that's my favourite headcanon. And it makes it easier to explain his original name. The other is that Valarin and Eldarin could have been similar but Tolkien also dropped the idea when he decided that when the Elves began working on their own languages they were encouraged to come up with one that was different from Valarin. Except it definitely made it into Quenya (and even in Aidunic somehow? [iniðil "lily, or other large single flower" appears in Adûnaic (Númenórean) as inzil "flower"]).

Ainur have Valarin names: Manwë = Mânawenûz , Aulë = A3ûlêz, Ossë = Ošošai/ Ošša ¹ so it is not too far fetched to claim that Mairon would have had his own Valarin name. My point - and one of my favourite idea to toy with when writing, is this one:

if you follow canon and Elves had never met Mairon would they be aware of his original name as generations pass? if let's say Fëanor grew curious when apprenticing under Aulë - about his mysterious gifted former Maia and the Vala would have revealed that Sauron had once been called Mairon (then running with the idea that his Valarin name would have been adapted in Quenya like the rest of the Ainur dealing in Valinor for practical reasons) would it be something that would have become popular knowledge to his kids or nephews? Or even better, would the Sindarin Elves be aware? I doubt the Noldor in exile would have kept this on top of their minds when trying to stay alive - esp. when Morgoth was a bigger threat atm.

Now, Sauron was a moniker given in disdain and Mairon continued to call himself by his pretty name until Akkalabeth but I highly doubted that outside of Melkor and possibly those in his immediate entourage it was common knowledge for the average Elf trying not to end up in Mandos Halls. If someone in the First Age (or early second) would have encountered a random dude walking Middle Earth and saying his name was Mairon, how many exactly would have connected the dots?

#YES I HAVE NERDED #anyway i was in the middle of writing and things got ...yeah i digressed a lot #cassy.tolkien #anyway i like the idea that the Valinor peeps would have tried to keep the name mairon banished somehow #esp since maimai kept using it when he was not so admirable anymore...#so to me its not common knowledge that the legendary maia smith the elves from valinor heard about = sauron #《《mairon》》#lang: valarin

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urwendii · 9 months

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Valarin Word of the Week #11

-> Paðnākwetê = charismatic orator, silver-tongued, one able to charm with words, (derivative: liar, manipulator)

ᴹ✶pathnā adj. “smooth” + ᴱ√QETE root. “*speak”

#lang: valarin #i put the root for QETE but the other variation is KWE / KWEN that you will recognise from quendi #i had Annatar in mind when i came up with this one #for obvious reason :D

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urwendii · 10 months

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Valarin Word of the Day #04

šēnī = bitch (female dog)

→ based on swǝnī(eQ)

#sorry im late today i went to the gym by 30C idk why #this time its to bring you a classic word usable in all situations #lang: valarin #im going to do this until the end of this week then start working on the newsletter and as suggested im gunna make it a weekly recurrence #i might even code it myself bc i need to remind myself whats my actual job at some point lol

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urwendii · 9 months

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Valarin Word of the Week #09

-> Ambaṝmēl = soulmate, one fated to another, connection of cosmic order, of sharing a unique bond with another soul.

from ᴱ✶ambṝt- n. “fate” + ᴱ√MELE root. “love”

#lang: valarin #for all your shippy need romantic or not #i might go back to this format #last week was a salvaged newsletter prototype and it didnt grow on me

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urwendii · 9 months

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Valarin Word of the Week #12

-> Antārimapā = the act of pleasuring oneself (or another one). Handjob

ᴹ✶anta- “to give,” + ᴱ√RIKI “*twist” + ᴹ✶mapā “hand”

#lang: valarin #this goes to my honry followers #following that post of the other day #sorry not sorry

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urwendii · 9 months

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Valarin Word of the Week #10

-> Kapāı̯anēl = reach for the stars. Leap of Faith. Trust in Varda. Courage.

ᴱ√KAPA: “leap, spring” + ᴹ✶aı̯an-“holy” + ᴹ√EL “star, starry sky”

#lang: valarin #yeah im not sure abt this one but oh well.....#moving to Middle P.Elv bc the roots are more developed #im keeping the weird i but i also toyed with: kapāyanēl #probably can be written both ways

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urwendii · 10 months

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Hey! I remember that you had a post on Valarin and maybe even came up with the Valarin version of Mairon?

I have this fic that may and may not be finished, and those two are talking via ósanwë and they would probably not call each other Mairon and Olórin. Not that it's super important.

Thanks a lot! :-)

i opened my Notion folder labeled Valarin and got a mini heart attack because it was mostly empty until i remembered i got distracted half way before gathering all my notes there lmao. So here's what i got so far (which is almost nothing)

I went back and forth between trying to decipher a logic between the difference in spelling in Ainur's names. What I find interesting is that Valar names seemed to mostly end in -z while the only Maia name we have does not so I kept this.

Initially I settled on Mayþôzel / Mayaþôzel for Mairon but it was mostly literal transcription from other spellings. I'm trying to include the few, few words we have regarding elements. ie:

water = ulu / ullu

air = šebeth

fire = rušur | uruš

hence the alt version of Mayrušurzel.

Valarin is so little developed that it's really complicated to find a pattern so I mostly roll with it tbh.

Hope I could help 😊

#which also makes me realise i need to edit that chapter in my fic where i use my former version of his Valarin's name lol #cassy.tolkien #lang: valarin

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urwendii · 10 months

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Valarin Word of the Day #07

Ibrīniðilpathānezel & Tulukhedelgorūs = Telperion & Laurelin, the Two Trees

#lang: valarin #2 for 1 tonight & canon words this time bc i need you to see how unhinged Tolky was #alright folks starting tomorrow im moving to a weekly schedule and i ll drop the link for the newsletter once it is ready ;)

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urwendii · 10 months

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Valarin Word of the Day #02

in the middle of merging early primitive elvish (that initially was the language the Valar taught the elves before Tolky revised this headcanon) and actual Valarin and boii is that not the funniest thing to do with my free time (it's not)

we have this word in early elvish: I̯ǝƀánna -> yavanna(Q) [yāva(eQ) = fruit]

so I could turn this in Valarin like: Iaþānnaz

#idk if you ever checked primitive elvish but it's as fucked up as valarin and im laughing a lot #eQ = early Quenya #thats the word of the day #whether or not its accurate idk #as previously stated in this serie all known Valar names end with a -z suffix #lang: valarin

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urwendii · 10 months

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Valarin word of the day #03

Dahanigwishtilgūn = Mt taniquetil

#this one is canon #lang: valarin #challenge: try to pronounce it in one go

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urwendii · 10 months

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