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#jamming botw and totk together
griffin-stone · 8 months
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Imagine if puppet-Zelda had shown up in BotW. I mean, angst potential, but all I have in my head is Link and puppet-Zelda showing up where the Champion spirits are.
Urbosa just roundhouse kicks puppet-Zelda. Revali's shooting arrows at it like there's no tomorrow. Daruk smashes puppet-Zelda.
Link runs in, freaking out because that's Zelda and why are they hurting her and Mipha tell them!
Mipha calmly takes Link's shoulders and moves him aside. The other Champions back off as Mipha approaches puppet-Zelda... and proceeds to stab it.
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science-lings · 1 year
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It is so in character for Link to just jam things together and have them work, I love that at his core botw/totk Link is ultimately a creative survivalist who will put a monster eyeball on an arrow to turn it into a homing missile
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rawliverandgoronspice · 10 months
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Kind of a pity that the Rauru's time going into Botw/Totk can't have happened from after Skyward Sword till after TP/WW/(OG)LoZ since it'd have been interesting if Totk-Ganondorf really was Koume and Kotake's father, and they lived for 400 years after his imprisonment, and they then became the foster mothers for Oot Ganondorf. That could also have explained the war in Oot, and the animosity between Gerudo and the rest of Hyrule. Explanation: Urbosa said that since Ganondorf the one who created the calamity was born, no other male Gerudo was born. Considering how small their population is, and how notable an event that would be, especially if that had lead into Oot Ganondorf being born, it could be safe to say that Totk's past and Botw/Totk's present can't span across at least the timelines of Oot/WW/TP/(OG)LOZ.
Ohh that would make for an interesting loop for sure! It's definitively my headcanon that the Twinrovas were born and raised in the golden age of the gerudo civilization and are kind of motivated by seeing that slow, gradual loss of cultural influence over Hyrule, and having this be correlated to a previous Ganondorf is very fun and a little trippy and I'm into the thought.
But yeah I agree that to me, the "Age of Myth" as they say, definitively happened long before. Tho, to be very honest, it seems to blatantly obvious to me that TotK is trying to be a soft reboot that I barely consider it in my timeline understanding brain, because it simply... kind of does not fit? no matter how hard you try to jam it together?
(which was already the case before, but even A Link Between World, which was clearly a remake of A Link to the Past, managed to be different enough to coexist without too much friction --while here it's really hard to have this game make any sort of sense if Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time specifically are to be taken into account --at least in my opinion)
So I kind of... uhhh... ignore TotK right now, in terms of how it fits into the canon. 😬 It's kind of my strategy right now.
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sablegear0 · 11 months
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To make a more articulate post about it, big TotK (and some Metroid Dread) spoilers under the cut:
I don’t know who it is at Nintendo but someone is jamming real hard on letting their female protags turn into literal actual monsters. And I am all about it.
They’re pretty monstrous monsters, too, to Ninty’s credit. While the Light Dragon and Metroid Suit still have some elements of their original person present (eg. The blonde hair and blue eyes for Zelda, the general design of the Varia+ suits for Samus) they’re enough their own thing that the visual and emotional impact are pretty powerful.
The Metroid suit turned Samus into the sort of expected emotional conclusion of the scenario; a vicious, screaming, thing fed up with the bullshit she’s been through and finally able to channel all that rage into a perfected, weaponized form.
Zelda’s draconic transformation on the other hand… is the mythological conclusion to what Skyward Sword sets up. As a living avatar of the goddess Hylia, she’s been able to have a direct hand in mortal affairs. But when the best tools Hylia left behind aren’t enough, things turn full circle and Zelda ascends back to a divine form to protect her chosen hero. She willingly forsakes her mortal influence and individuality for a chance to defeat her ancient foe.
And honestly that’s… like really tragic. BotW showed her struggling with her destiny and her relationship to Link. You find pieces throughout TotK that show how she has finally come into her own as a ruler, historian, and philanthropist. The fact that you find her journal in the house you can buy in BotW implies she and Link has been living together over the time gap (which could be in the neighbourhood of almost 10 years! I haven’t checked on Riju and the Gerudo yet but several pairs of NPCs have had children in the interim). Zelda willingly gives up all of this, the self she spent so much time and effort finally realizing, in the name of her destiny as a facet of Hylia.
But not just that. Not just for that. She does it for Link, too. To restore the chosen weapon for her chosen hero.
Really, it’s all for his sake. She tells the sages about him, she tells Rauru about him. Shrines and mechanisms and prophecies are put in place to ensure he has the tools and information he needs, ten thousand years later, to do battle.
Her last words as a human are “Link, protect them all.”
And she spends those ten thousand years in empty solitude. Still watching over Hyrule and its hero despite the total ego death she willingly commits to in order to protect her home.
Its… sad. It’s really sad. And it’s beautiful. And honestly I commend whoever made the choice to allow the title character to become something like this. Because that’s awesome.
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