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I didn't really like the new movie because It didn't fit kn the PnF timeline, with Bufford and Candace not recognizing Doof or Perry not knowing that that Doof wouldn't recorgnize him without his hat. Where do you think that this movie takes place in the timeline? (And what is your opinion on the movie as a true PnF fan?)

While I do like the movie, i’m not considering it canon at all (especially since Phineas and Ferb officially ended in 2015)! If anything, it takes place in an alternate timeline where Candace was in the right position to notice the pod before it went back, or even in just a similar alternate dimension in general like the ”Lost in Danville” and Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension ones (as then the various inconsistencies seen in the movie wouldn’t be such).

Even beyond everything I said in the second linked post above (which I strongly urge anyone who’s interested to read before this part) about the various errors/inconsistencies and the drastic developments from the movie not fitting in with the entire rest of the series: when would Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Candace Against the Universe be able to happen in the existing timeline? You nailed it that Doof and Buford teamed up in “Bully Bromance Breakup,” but didn’t initially know each other in that episode. If CATU came before, they would have recognized each other then. If CATU came after, they would have recognized each other from that. In “Night of the Living Pharmacists” (which takes place after “Phineas and Ferb: Summer Belongs to You!” since Phineas references their bouncing around the world in NOTLP, and is the last episode set in the show’s universe/summer before “Last Day of Summer”) the kids (sans Baljeet and Buford since they were already infected by then) don’t know who Doof is. If CATU came before, they would have recognized each other then. If CATU came after, they would have recognized each other from that. Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension takes place around mid-July due to a reference to the July 11th episode “Candace Loses Her Head.” When Phineas and Ferb talk about making Candace a gift in CATU, they also reference “Candace Loses Her Head,” which means CATU would be at least in July or later. If CATU came before ATSD, then Phineas and Ferb would have recognized Doof then. 

If CATU were canon, Dwampy say that it would be set in the middle of the summer that PnF takes place in, which means definitely after “Phineas and Ferb: Summer Belongs to You!” in June since all the kids are supposed to know Vanessa already but not Doof (this makes Candace singing at the end of CATU about learning how Phineas and Ferb aren’t the bane of her existence inconsistent with how she already learned/sung about that in “Phineas and Ferb: Summer Belongs to You!”). ATSD being in July means that it already took the spot of being set roughly in the middle of summer (not to mention Candace singing in CATU about the growth elixir from “Attack of the 50 Foot Sister” means that CATU would definitely take place after the middle of summer). If CATU took place after ATSD, then aside from the issue of it no longer being in the middle of summer, we also just run into the problem again of the events and developments that happened in the movie never having any impact or being mentioned/referenced again (compared to the events of ATSD being referenced at least three times in Seasons 3 and 4, even with the mind-wipe that everyone but Perry went through). Additionally, Dwampy have been shown to be wrong about PnF before (and in general tend to dig themselves into plot holes when releasing information outside of the show), so i’m not putting much stock in their word on CATU.

Bonus thoughts regarding Seasons/episodes without hard dates: Candace learned by “Sci-Fi Pie Fly” in Season 3 that she can take a break from busting to the betterment of her mental health sometimes. When does this movie take place? Candace mentions pyramid sports and a Trojan horse in her CATU "Such a Beautiful Day” song, and those projects were respectively from “Thanks But No Thanks” and “Troy Story,” which are Season 4 episodes. In “Thanks But No Thanks,” Vanessa is dating Monty, which only happened after “Sipping with the Enemy” in Season 3. When does this movie take place? Also in "Such a Beautiful Day,” Candace references “Buford Confidential” (which takes place after “Phineas and Ferb: Summer Belongs to You!” and around “This is Your Backstory,” in which ATSD gets referenced) as “other nonsense coming soon.” When does this movie take place? Candace says she's feeling for the first time ever like she's someone/that she matters, but she was a person of importance in “Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror”/“Flop Starz”/“Run Away Runway”/“Lights, Candace, Action!”/“Unfair Science Fair Redux (Another Story)” (which gets referenced by Baljeet in CATU)/“Gi-Ants” (”Gi-Ants” taking place in May). When does this movie take place? 

My verdict? it doesn’t.

#as i've said before: You Can't Retroactively Change A Show That's Already Over #like if you bury a time capsule you can't dig it up years later to add something to it and then bury it again #anyway i don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater so the original run of pnf is the canon i stick by #(i don't consider the new chibi shorts or the old doof's daily dirt series to be canon either) #i think of pnf's canon like a jigsaw puzzle: we already have all the pieces & these new ones being thrown in don't match the box's picture #if any of you still want to believe it's canon then best of luck with reconciling the movie with the rest of the series (i couldn't do it) #just be prepared to retcon all of PnF in the process #jacky1-4ever #asks #long post