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roebeanstalk · 9 months
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reblog to manifest gender euphoria for the person you reblogged this from
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For what i gathered from your style of writing (immaculate btw) i think reader would not responde to nates advances, because contrary to billy, stu and felix he doesnt hide his asshole ways.
So i think the main thrope would be groveling from his part
omg this ask feels like such a cross over!!
you're so right and i love the way you're thinking through this, but let's break down nate's character a little more (and reader's)
one of the major takeaways from that scene where everything that nate looks for in a girl is laid out and the scenes that explain what he liked about maddy is that there's this theme of being drawn to traditional feminity/someone that can play a traditionally feminine role
i think there are a lot of factors that play into him wanting that-- it reflects what he's familiar with, a more feminine partner will push back less/be easier to manipulate (in his head at least), and maybe a smidge of comphet depending on how you read his sexuality
one of his main fantasies is saving maddy from another man and when maddy was trying to win him over, she played into her femininity (and cassie kind of did the same)
and when you think about these reasons and the kind of girl he'd want to go for (and you look at the way he treats maddy when he apologizes and when they first started dating) it's natural for him to have some kinder qualities that come from the instinct to fill that traditionally masculine role in a relationship
so, when considering all of that,, i think nate can be really charming, maybe even a little chivalrous when he's really trying to win someone over
i also think nate's relatively good at reading people, and he can clock that the reader from that last blurb is trying to be a party girl more than actually being one, he knows that reader would never want to be around him if he's openly an asshole, so he manipulates subtly (telling reader to keep their interactions a secret from maddy for her own sake, all while knowing that the sooner he breaks that 'secret keeping' barrier, it'll only get easier to get reader to keep more and more from her friends)
i also see nate as someone who is very capable of being likeable when he wants to be, and reader being kind of sheltered/"innocent" and maddy's friend and being so determined to not like him makes him want to put in the work,,
so he's going to make a point of being soft spoken and nice when he has to see reader, and the harder she tries to dismiss him, the more he's going to commit bc it becomes less about getting maddy's attention and a little more about his ego,, and then finally, about reader
and if we're comparing this reader to final girl!reader or best friend! reader,, (you guys have no way of having known this, i barely referenced it in one sentence) i see this reader as being less looked out for
i picture her mom as one of those moms that wants to be "the cool mom" so bad so that she can pretend her daughter's friends are hers too, and she's so excited that reader is being more social/popular that she's a little lost in it
and i see reader's dad (not me finally giving readers a dad) as being almost the polar opposite, strict and traditional,, so reader still feels the need to hide going out and drinking bc it starts arguments with her parents and that makes her feel guilty
i'd really love to write a fic explaining all of these dynamics and how they overlap with the same style of narration that euphoria episodes that center a specific character's background story are,, i love mimicking niche voices like that it's so fun
anyways this was really long for no reason <3
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You made me Like Kou as a addict. I have the song pink cocaine by scene queen in my playlist of Kou now
anon you've made my DAY. in the past i made a long post about this here explaining why i headcanon kou as a drug addict, evidence from the series itself, along with links to my fics where kou is an addict so i'm not going to repeat all that here. in this post however, i did say i could talk more about the specific drugs kou would do so thank you for giving me the perfect opportunity to do that! i could do this for all my favs btw. it's a talent and a curse.
putting it under the cut because it'll be long, and tw for discussions of drug use, comedown, addiction etc. you'll see i know a lot about this.
well the first drug i put kou on has always been cocaine. it's the stereotypical famous, rich person, celebrity party drug. in my laito addict fic, it was kou who first gave laito cocaine. i strongly believe kou could get through 2 bags of coke in a night if he wanted to. personally i've never done coke but i know it makes someone very euphoric and confident and i do feel like kou would absolutely love the feeling of that, especially in a party situation where he's potentially feeling uncomfortable/imposter syndrome.
however, cocaine is quite psychologically addictive. i explained before why i think he'd get addicted and in general, i like to headcanon kou as using uppers. so i'll talk about uppers first. to clarify: "uppers" are drugs which make someone feel very upbeat, energetic etc, whereas "downers" are drugs which make one feel relaxed, calm etc. alcohol is an example of both.
alcoholic kou? yeah, count me the fuck in too! drinking is a great socially acceptable drug to abuse! he could potentially hide drinking from his brothers a bit better until he loses control and doesn't realise how drunk he's getting on a daily basis. drinking is relatively easy to get into a routine of abuse with and again, partying leads to hangovers and that leads to day drinking!
now i've talked a lot about kou using cocaine and drinking in the past, so let's talk about some other drugs! i've written drugs in fanfics for over 5 years now and, well, i have a lil experience myself, ehehe. i am also in my third year of a degree in pharmacology. so, drugs really are my speciality knowledge.
the other main party drug that comes to mind when i think of clubbing and uppers is, of course, ecstasy, aka MDMA. ecstasy itself is a tablet you swallow but you can also get powder MDMA to snort. snorting MDMA tends to make the high come on faster, more intensely, but shorter lasting. in my prison fanfic, kou was an MDMA abuser before going to prison.
MDMA as a drug isn't physically addictive and it has less addictive potential than cocaine but that doesn't mean it's impossible. one of the things that might make kou attracted to MDMA is the fact it makes you feel very connected and affectionate to other people. MDMA is one of the drugs i have done a handful of times, it's my go-to club drug, i much prefer it to alcohol. i often find myself telling people how much i love them etc. it's kinda funny to imagine kou going home, pupils so wide you could land a plane on them, and telling all his brothers how much he loves them.
while 100% MDMA has a slight afterglow and the only negative effect the following day is jaw grinding and tiredness, most MDMA tends to be cut with other substances which can make the comedown unpleasant, and i guess that's where abuse potential comes in. that or kou would use other drugs to avert the comedown. but recreationally, i think kou would like MDMA.
hm, other uppers, i guess we're thinking of amphetamines next - speed, meth, mainly. meth tends to increase alertness, again causes euphoria. i've never used amphetamines of any kind but i know they have a higher addictive potential albeit not physically. it's a bit like coke but lasts longer supposedly. i'm ngl meth is one of the drugs i don't know AS much about. but like cocaine, if kou is chasing that high and feel-good feeling he's been missing his whole life, he's very at-risk once he discovers the meth high.
the other "upper" is nicotine mainly, but nicotine addict kou is a completely different story altogether. i talk about it more here.
so, downers. the first downer i’ll talk about is weed because it’s quick i guess. to be honest i can’t imagine kou using downers as much as uppers because of how he’s probably seeking a more euphoric high - i just think of him as a kid saying how he’s going to fly high in the sky. i have a headcanon where kou, yuma and azusa all smoke weed together, so, yeah. 
next downer to come to mind is ketamine - i guess ketamine is more of a dissociative than a downer. i’ve found a lot of people don’t know what ketamine is; no, it’s not “horse tranquilizer” - it’s used in humans as an anaesthetic more than in veterinary practice, and it’s currently being trialled as a rapid-acting antidepressant! 
that said, when ketamine is used recreationally (and it’s very common over here in the UK) it causes feelings of dissociation. i’ve done ket, i think it’s a bit overrated, it’s just a short-lived out-of-body experience. maybe kou would use it if he’s having sleep issues or is feeling really depressed. some people mix cocaine and ketamine (called “Calvin Klein” or CK) so maybe he’d try that. 
aaaand now we come to opiates or, most probably, heroin. i wrote kou as a heroin addict in my prison fic and i’d say it’s the only downer i can see him using. opiates are just... chill. you feel warm, relaxed, calm. the world is beautiful, it sounds strange but i can imagine kou describing heroin as his blue sky if he got REALLY balls deep in addiction. he used it as stress relief, to feel normal or like himself. just to feel “happy” and escape from any bad feelings. 
problem is, heroin is really addictive and i think he’d fall fast. i think his brothers would notice too, to be honest. he’d be hard to stage an intervention with too, because he’s stubborn. heroin is hard to stop and hard to want to recover from. i can imagine it becoming a major source of conflict in the mukami household if it were to happen. and because of the physical withdrawal, kou isn’t going to want to stop even when it stops being a high and starts just feeling like “normal” 
last category of drugs is psychedelics. psychedelics aren’t really abusable drugs because of how your brain reaches a threshold with their effects and they’re not really party drugs either. i can’t picture kou using them regularly or liking them much. 
to be honest, i would picture kou as having maybe one drug he's using regularly and then using other drugs on top. mixing drugs without thinking, large scale drug abuse i guess. he's got a lot of trauma and he's been wanting to feel good in himself since he was a kid. a very large proportion of drug users do not become addicted but kou? kou's walking a tightrope when it comes to this stuff.
thank you for reading this really stupidly long post. i can and will happily answer any questions about the DL characters and drugs - or drugs in general, if you have any questions about that! doesn't have to be DL related, i'm happy to educate! :)
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