Hollow Knight Plush Stuff
So, I decided I'm going to give this a shot, at least until I hit some sort of big snag that makes the end result not worth the effort.
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As per my last post trying to resist doing this, I've begun by trying to figure out some basic measurements for Hollow. The objective is to be as sprite accurate as possible, which I don't really foresee as being an issue, given the simple design.
And doing the measurements has really put into perspective on how utterly insane this venture might be.
The plan is that the plush will be 7 1/2 feet tall, from feet (if you could call those points 'feet') to the dip between their horns. I've determined this to be a really good body pillow/huggable buddy scale. In addition, if I ever develop a pattern for Ghost with this scale, they'll be 20 inches tall (without horns) and that's also a really nice huggable size.
Hugability is very important to me, you see.
Anyway, Measurements.
You want to know the measurements I've come up with?
Shin - 29 1/4 in
Knee Ball - 2 5/8 in
Thigh - 23 1/4 in
Torso - 25 1/2 in
Bicept - 18 1/2 in
Forearm - 16 1/4 in
Neck - ~8 - 9 in
Head - - 14 in
Horns - 41 in
If those numbers don't mean anything to you, get a yard stick, and look them up.
These are only the basic length measurements, I still have to work on width/thickness, and the more in detail stuff. Like the hands, which I just....chose to ignore for now lmao.
But now I want to throw some ideas around for how I want this thing to be put together, and some issues I foresee.
Stuffing Options-
there are benefits to Hollow being so thin, but I don't think their limbs stuffing will be one of them. Stuffing their limbs with normal fluff might not hold up longterm. Stuffing, unless densely packed, will move around and shift, and long narrow things are the worst at this. The amount of dragon tails I've made that have empty crease spaced because of this (and because i never learned my lesson) is at least a dozen by now. If I want to really make this, I don't want this to happen, and I especially don't want to have to try to open it back up to fix it a year or two down the line.
So, normal fluff for limbs is out. That leaves me with two options: foam or batting.
Both would negate the empty spaces issue, and both has their pros and cons. But ultimately, I think it comes down to how much I want the limbs to hold their form. Batting would be easier to work with, and cheaper, but it'd likely cause the final limbs to be floppier than using foam would. Foam would make them stiffer (perhaps even too stiff, depending on the type of foam available to me) and keep the actual shape of the limbs better. Pretty much just gotta figure out how cuddleable I want to go, I think.
For the torso, shifting fluff won't be such an issue, as there's more space to move side to side, which in turn means there's less chances for empty pockets to form. Main issue I foresee would be the waist, which will likely be the area it would bend the most. I think for the torso, I need to think about how much I want it to be able to support itself, which would be nice.
But now we get to the two major things that I KNOW will be a mess of problems on problems and be a bitch to deal with: the head and the neck.
Necks are the bane of my existence, and I know why most plushes don't have them: that moving stuffing empty space causing the necks to loose support and flop about. The bigger/heavier the head, the worse it'll be.
And Hollow's head is fucking MASSIVE.
The entire thing is 55 inches long, most of which is horn.
If I want the neck to have any sort of support, I will have to use dense foam, and even then I might have to put some sort of plastic tubing/metal armature within it. I would prefer to not have to do that, but It'll all come down to how heavy the head will be.
Which means that the head will have to be as light as possible. normal fluff is out, stuffing it to as firm as I tend to like my plushes will make it too heavy. I sort of want to try foam, at least for the horns. I feel like foam would be really nice to keep the shape of the horns, which is an important thing to me.
the more and more I type, the more I think that this plush will be mostly foam-stuffed. Which is actually kind of neat, I've never worked with foam as a stuffing material that much before. Mostly as a core to hold shapes. We'll see, this is mostly just spitballing ideas.
Fabric-
I want to see if I have enough fabric already, which will go a big way into factoring if I actually do this. But I also want to use minky for this, and I don't think I have any black minky left.
Minky is my go-to fabric for my plushes, because it's my favorite and because it's very soft. the specific type of minky I use, Shannon Cuddle 3, also has a short pile (fur) compared to other minkys, while being no less soft. Minky is also somewhat stretchy due to being a knit-like fabric, which makes rounded parts nice and smooth. I love working with Minky, and the idea of having a big minky-fluffy Hollow is one that I cannot pass up, that would be sooooo nice.
But I'm not sure if I'd want their head to be minky as well. I feel like having it be a different fabric, a different texture, would be really nice, both tactically and visually. Probably still a knit, so it's still soft, but one without a pile. Or I could just do what I sometimes do and just....use minky inside out lmao. bit of a waste of minky for such large parts, i usually only do that for smaller parts. I think I might actually have a white fabric that might work really well, though with how large the head will be, I'm not sure I'll have enough. Which will suck, because I haven't been able to find this fabric ever since RIP ME
I might check out the Amish fabric shop I sometimes shop at, I can't remember for the life of me if it sells minky. It'll be a good place to look for potential mask fabrics regardless.
As a side note: a cursed part of my brain briefly though about how the plush might look like if I used velvet for the body. It'd probably look really cool, but I'm someone who doesn't like the feel of velvet. it's like...prickly, to me, not soft at all. So while it might LOOK really nice, it's definitely not worth doing. I want to be able to cuddle this plush.
[Also side note: my favorite fabric site has apparently shut down WTF WHY THAT SITE WAS SO FUCKING GOOD?! IT HAD ALL THE MINKY COLORS NOOOO]
Eyes-
Eyes are always a part I pay extra attention to in plushes, because I feel like they can make or break a plush's face.
I've done some googling, and it seems like everyone who's made HK plushes of Vessels just do black circles. Which makes sense, that's literally the easiest thing you can do to make their eyes.
That's probably what I'll ed up doing as well (or, well, eggy ovals instead of circles) but I still wonder what it might look like if I tried to make a sort of indent or carve out for eyes, so they're more like eye holes. I think that'd be a really cool idea, and could potentially look really neat, really look like head shell has some depth from the 'underlying' blackness. The issue would be doing it with fabric, which could prove difficult.
If I do use foam for the head, that would make it a bit more possible. The foam would hold the shape of the eye socket.
Perhaps gluing black fabric directly onto the foam 'skull', then layering a doubled layer of fabric over top (or even fabric over thin foam over the skull?) would work? That calls into question how to keep the fabric over top secured in it's proper place. even if fit snugly over the foam, it would still be able to move a little bit...This would require some testing, to see if it's even an idea that may work.
Another idea would be to carve out the eye sockets, line that socket with white fabric, then shove a piece of black-covered foam into it, gluing it in place. That seems like it'd be easier, and might look better. I'll test it.
Side note: it'd also be interesting to see if I can make the mask cracks indented too, but those are probably too thin to even try.
Pure Vessel vs Hollow Knight-
Gonna be real, I dunno which one I want to make. Pure Vessel would be easier, despite taking a little more material. I also wouldn't have to deal with the crack.
But at the same time, THK would be more challenging, and I kind of want that challenge.
If I do THK, I kind of want to add some infection 'scars' to their torso, make it less symmetrical than the other side. I've never really tried to do something like that.
I also kinda don't want to have to make two hands lamo
This thing will be so big that I'll only be able to make one. And also only have the space to keep one.
Ending Thoughts-
When I first had the idea for this, I was sure that once I really thought things through, really put thought into all the things I'd have to do to actually make it, that I'd become so daunted that I'd trash it. And for all intents and purposes, this idea is utterly INSANE. I should not be thinking of doing this. It's a huge amount of effort, and time, and money, for something that will ultimately be completely useless. For an oversized plush. that serves no purpose besides being cuddled.
But rather than daunting, I think this could be fun. that I might enjoy the challenge, and enjoy expanding my sewing skills, learning new things. Broken down, it doesn't really seem so bad.
Would it be a waste of time? Potentially. Would I be better off working on other, more productive things? Probably. Would it be a waste of money? Absolutely.
Am I still going to do it?
Yes. Yes I am.
Tomorrow I'll tackle doing some pattern sketches. For the rest of tonight, I'll do some research into fabrics and foams and other potential materials. Maybe some more measurements. Should really do the hand.
Man, this is gonna be one hell of a wild ride.
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Good News: First pass through Greenpath is done, and I got to the first pregnancy part I wanted to get to!
Bad News: Fungal Wastes is up next, and I sort of didn't want to go through Fungal with Violette pregnant...
Originally, back before I changed things around and shortened Crossroads, the timing lined up for it happening during Greenpath. But now with how things are, she's completed Greenpath before even realizing she was pregnant, and the only place I can progress to is Fungal.
And I don't know what to think of this next part happening in Fungal.
Things still aren't too bad, things are still 'mild' in terms of sex, so that's good. I intended for things to really start to ramp up after entering City.
But the issue is that the concept I'm pursuing has Violette scouring Fungal instead of just going straight for Claw. Which means that she'll be spending a lot of time there looking for what she's looking for, and I'm not entirely sure what to do with that time.
A part of me wonders if I should solidify where I want all the new stuff I'm adding to be first, to see if that would affect anything or give me any ideas on what to do. Which would be smart.
But I've been on role with pathing, and I don't want to potentially lose that momentum.
And I have some ideas for Fungal, I'm just not sure if they fit. Or if they're even good ideas...
Maybe I'll take a shower and do some brainstorming. Maybe that'll help me figure out what to next lmao.
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