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#if ml salters can be annoying with crossover ships
dizzying-faust · 26 days
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Are people still trying to call Marinette racist because of that one noncanon fancomic made by a creep all because someone suggested shipping her with Miles Morales?
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dizzying-faust · 3 years
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My own Rant on Mari//bat
Originally this was going to be part of the Controversial Ship Asks game, but after what happened, this rant is going to be its own thing.
Out of all the ml ships that pisses me off, one in particular is mari//bat or Damin//ette.
I just can’t see Marinette be with someone like Damian. I’m not knowledgeable about DC outside of the cartoons, but from what his fans told me about the character Damian is not what the shippers portray him. He’s pretty much Chloe/Felix levels of characterization. Does he have a soft side? Yeah. But even then this is not a character i can't see Marinette tolerate.
I’m kinda picky when it comes to shipping my favs, Especially in Marinette’s case considering her history with characters like him. Chloe and Lila, for obvious reasons, and Felix, whether it’s the PV or the canon version, is too much of a jerk for her to tolerate (The canon one especially since he tried to forcefully kiss her). And Damien is no exception.
I know I’m looking too hard at a crossover ship, which I wouldn’t mind, if its fandom wasn’t so full of salters.
And that leads to the second reason I hate this ship, the salt.
Most of the content is just salt stuff, especially related to Chameleon. Heck, it’s basically the same stuff I’ve seen in non-mari//bat related stuff (Adrien salt, Alya salt, Lila salt, Saltinette, class salt, spite shipping, etc.), just with the batman characters added. It doesn’t help that they have to warp the characters around, especially the batman ones, just to justify the ship happening and for people to live out their salt fantasies. Like giving Damian, Adrien’s personality and making Adrien pretty much a harasser/abuser.
If you don't know me I HATE the "Die for our Ship' mentality, where people would bash characters/ships to prop up their preferred ship. That right there is what gets me to not want to ship your ship. I hated it when luka//nette shippers do this, I hated it when mari//gami shippers d this, and I sure as heck don't like it when mari//bat shippers do this either.
And these guys would go off about how it is better than canon. When like, most of it has barely to do with ML nor DC at this point that you can just replace them with OCs and nothing will change. And as me and others have said before, they make it clear by cluttering tags with this ship and annoying us with their salt pairings. Sure, block the tags, but I did and even then they wanna get angry how were not allowed to express their opinion on it, yet they can do the same.
And inbf someone thinks I’m hating it for it because it’s not the Love Square, I’m not. I actually don’t ship it myself, not out of salt but for different reasons. And I’ll admit, I’m all for some crossover/crack ships. Heck, I even ship Marinette with Josuke from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. But even I’m not a fan of mari//bat.
Sure, opposites attract, but it needs to be in ways that fit the characters. Marinette is a good person who is surrounded by friends and family who care for her, regardless of how much salters want to deny it. She has her own issues, but it’s not in the way these salters portray them. She doesn’t need to be saved let alone be with a jerk like Damian.
Canon Marinette is too nice for Damian and I can imagine if she ever met him it would probably end the same way with what she did to Felix, a big punch to the face.
It’s kinda sad that a ship like this is popular, because it’s basically just nothing more than a pairing built on salt. I may not ship it but at least the Love Square, whether they like it or not, Adrien is a good person that treats Marinette well and it does bring out the goodness in both of them, regardless of what side you ship. It's not flawless, mind you, but it has its merits. Even Lukanette and Marigami, ships I loathe because of toxic salt shippers, have their merits outside of salt as well. Mari//bat has none of that. It’s popular because of salt. It gained its wings (no pun intended) because of salt. And honestly, if ml salt wasn’t as big as it was today it probably would have been a forgettable crossover ship. 
I’m not here to say stop shipping mari//bat or put down people who like the ship. I know some who do genuinely ship them outside of salt and they are allowed to ship and be happy their ship made it to the top 100. People can do what they want. I just don’t feel like this ship deserves the praise it gets between how unfitting both the characters are, the salt, the OOC-ness, etc.
I can think of way better crossover ships that would fit Marinette better. Like my aforementioned ship with Josuke, Steven Universe, or even with Miles Morales.
Like I just wish there were more ML crossovers that weren’t done for the sake of salting on the show, especially as someone who genuinely likes crossovers and crossover ships.
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