#idk i was just talking to the paledriver and was reminded that she also has shivers

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i don't have a solid theory on anything but i think shivers is real and connected to the pale somehow

#it speaks #idk i was just talking to the paledriver and was reminded that she also has shivers #i need to go back through all of joyce's and tiago's dialogue and see if there's any evidence of it there too #but there's also the fact that harry can recognize the 2mm hole as pale #and that when u talk to the city itself through shivers the camera shifts up to darkness of the rafters #where it also goes when it shows where the hole is #and shivers definitely tells harry things he wouldn't otherwise know #and there's the thing dolores dei's assassin says about needing to let us discover things for ourselves #there's something here i think i just. don't know how to fit the pieces together